Kit | Novelkeys | Candykeys | Zfrontier | Zfrontier CN | Dailyclack |
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base | $95.00 | 93.00€ | $95.00 | ¥578.00 | $152.00 |
calc | $16.00 | 20.00€ | $17.00 | ¥100.00 | $26.00 |
ergo | $65.00 | 58.00€ | $65.00 | ¥395.00 | $104.00 |
extension | $30.00 | 34.00€ | $30.00 | ¥185.00 | $48.00 |
intl | $35.00 | 38.00€ | $35.00 | ¥216.00 | $56.00 |
nav | $15.00 | 19.00€ | $12.00 | ¥72.00 | $24.00 |
space | $22.00 | 23.00€ | $23.00 | ¥135.00 | $35.00 |
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Pretty cool. What is KAM again? Is that the edrug profile?
That red on gray is gonna be hard to pull off, but I guess that's what samples will help with. I like it.
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Pretty cool. What is KAM again? Is that the edrug profile?
That red on gray is gonna be hard to pull off, but I guess that's what samples will help with. I like it.
I fixed the link in the description. It's basically KAT row 3.
Here is the link: https://www.zfrontier.com/post/detail/7214
And yeah, I will need to get some samples to find the perfect color combo without 'vibrating colors' contrast ;)
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Woups, it was still XDA Wraith on the banner :-*
Now it's fixed!
This can't possibly look as good as the renders, but my god if it does...
The double colored legends look really nice. This is a unique set. Great work! :thumb:
The whole set includes: 1u, 1u raised line, 1.25u, 1.75u, 1.75u Step, 2.0u, 2.25u, 2.75u, ISO Enter, 2u space bars, 3u space bars, 6u space bars, 6.25u space bars and 7u space bars. And that will fit most of the Cherry MX keyboards.
This looks great, any renders of KAM from the side? How high does it sit?
Make that NorDe kit happen :)
I really like the profile and renders, but are there any examples of all over dye sub with lighter legends on these caps?
Space bars would be better grouped in a single kit.
Totally willing to try out KAM for this set.
Looking good!
Do you know if 6u spacebar is offset stem or centered?
I think the Mono option looks great, and I hope it gets offered.
I know these profiles are new, but has anyone here had any hands-on experience with KAM/KAT? What's the texture supposed to be like relative to other sets?
Looking good!
Do you know if 6u spacebar is offset stem or centered?
Thanks!
I'll ask Keyreative, since I really wanna go KAM!
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KAM is basically KAT r2.That's R3 in standard row notation (top to bottom). Simply put, the home row.
KAM is basically KAT r2.That's R3 in standard row notation (top to bottom). Simply put, the home row.
Someone suggested me to make an alternative version of the alphas without sub legends, let me know what do you think of it:I'm really digging the mono alphas and would probably choose them over the original. I'd like to see regular modifiers would look like.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/NMLLjcW.jpg)
And, second question: What is your opinion about making regular modifiers for control, alt and super (or whatever you wanna name it)?
KAM is basically KAT r2.
I own a KAT set and I have to say that it's really pleasant to use. It's thick and smooth, not too tall (compared to SA)…
QuoteKAM is basically KAT r2.
I own a KAT set and I have to say that it's really pleasant to use. It's thick and smooth, not too tall (compared to SA)…
Ooh have KAT sets already been produced? I thought it was just the alpha set which finished the GB recently.
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.
Please don't stride away from speccy. It will loose the charm and become totally uninteresting for those riding the nostalgia wave.Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.
Well it’s inspired by the orignal ones. It’s kinda different from the other keycaps we usually see IMO.
Really dig the busy looks! One thing that I still not sure is the arrow design. It kind of off-design having them in stetched style.
Well it’s inspired by the orignal ones. It’s kinda different from the other keycaps we usually see IMO.
Here is a try on light alphasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uZCnS2X.jpg)
Here is a try on light alphasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uZCnS2X.jpg)
While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.
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Here is a try on light alphasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uZCnS2X.jpg)
While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.
Which is not the original ZX Spectrum color. It looses the resemblance to Original Sinclar ZX Spectrum thus you don't need any of the Basic keywords printed on caps.Here is a try on light alphasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uZCnS2X.jpg)
While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.
What do you mean? I basically inverted the dark blue gray with the white.
Which is not the original ZX Spectrum color. It looses the resemblance to Original Sinclar ZX Spectrum thus you don't need any of the Basic keywords printed on caps.Here is a try on light alphasShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/uZCnS2X.jpg)
While esthetically it's not the worst thing, somehow it does not make any sense with the speccy basic keywords in the non-speccy colors.
What do you mean? I basically inverted the dark blue gray with the white.
As I said, it's still quite nice design, but not Speccy anymore. I would not mix them into one. Maybe the white one without the keywords just keeping the font...
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Beautiful set! The more I look at the renders the more I like it. Not crazy about the mono alphas as I think the charm of this set lies in the legends. Undecided on the light alphas. Although they do look interesting I think there's enough going on with this set that I'd stick with dark gray alphas.
Either way hope this happens, most def in for a set.
If the sample looks anywhere near the renders, I'm in!
Also heard good things about KAT incl. tactile feel department, I've yet to try myself but have high expectations.
How do you like the keyset so far?
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Looks awesome. Love that you added NORDKIT!
Joined geekhack from reddit for this keycap set and 1 custom keyboard.
Will be definitely ordering this.
Who will be the EU proxy? I might have seen candykeys posting a picture about this, but i might be wrong
Hey! Glad you enjoy the project! Candykeys is definitively interested to be the EU proxy so yeah it should be it.
I want to one more 3u space bar
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=97289.0
Lynx L50 requires two 3u space bar.
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.
Does this mean we can probably expect November GB start?
Quick update, I should receive 3d files next week or so in order to make more accurate renders :thumb:
Keyreative will also be available next month so I might order some samples.
Does this mean we can probably expect November GB start?
This will depend on the quality of the samples. Legends have to be sharp, clean and centered. I don’t wanna hurry and launch a GB with an unperfect product :)
I love the gray color keys. How is this different than XDA?
I love the gray color keys. How is this different than XDA?
It's not flat. It's basically taller and thicker DSAShow Image(http://img.zfrontier.com/post/20180530/FugMaDcV5WMEW7b0f8KY1WVGsJQq?imageView2/2/w/700/q/85)
Any update on this starting this GB? Sorry for the impatience, I'm just incredibly excited for this.
Any update on this starting this GB? Sorry for the impatience, I'm just incredibly excited for this.
Hey, thanks for your interest! I'm trying to order samples to Keyreative but they're very busy atm. I should get news this week…
Would it be possible to move the ISO enter to the modifiers kit? Since there's already a 1U backslash/pipe in the alphas, only the ISO enter is needed for ISO-US support
Any way can you do the alphas without the icons? I feel they looks like overloaded, i prefer them more clear.This is a themed keycap set. The icons and 2nd 3rd and 4th labels all have specific meaning, very dear to those who are into the 80s nostalgia.
Also, can keyreative do scooped homing keys? Maybe is better for KAM and more accurate for the old school feel than a little stripe on the keycap
Any way can you do the alphas without the icons? I feel they looks like overloaded, i prefer them more clear.
Also, can keyreative do scooped homing keys? Maybe is better for KAM and more accurate for the old school feel than a little stripe on the keycap
Alright, so Keyreative is like super busy, but I should be able to order a sample of alphas+mods in November, and finally receive the 3D files for more accurate renders at the same time.
Sorry for the wait guys!
Alright, so Keyreative is like super busy, but I should be able to order a sample of alphas+mods in November, and finally receive the 3D files for more accurate renders at the same time.
Sorry for the wait guys!
Alright, so Keyreative is like super busy, but I should be able to order a sample of alphas+mods in November, and finally receive the 3D files for more accurate renders at the same time.
Sorry for the wait guys!
It might actually be better until people in the West get their KAT Alpha and DSA/KAM Starry Night R2 (did that ship already?) sets, to build some additional recognition and trust.
Alright, so Keyreative is like super busy, but I should be able to order a sample of alphas+mods in November, and finally receive the 3D files for more accurate renders at the same time.
Sorry for the wait guys!
It might actually be better until people in the West get their KAT Alpha and DSA/KAM Starry Night R2 (did that ship already?) sets, to build some additional recognition and trust.
Apparently, they are in production atm, according to what Zfrontier told me.
I'm still pushing to be able to order a prototype for Wraith…
Alright, so Keyreative is like super busy, but I should be able to order a sample of alphas+mods in November, and finally receive the 3D files for more accurate renders at the same time.
Sorry for the wait guys!
It might actually be better until people in the West get their KAT Alpha and DSA/KAM Starry Night R2 (did that ship already?) sets, to build some additional recognition and trust.
Apparently, they are in production atm, according to what Zfrontier told me.
I'm still pushing to be able to order a prototype for Wraith…
I know this is a hobby of patience, but at this point I feel like ZFrontier has set a bad precedent for how this order will go. This long without any traction is pretty crazy. I really want this set but I'm not sure it's worth waiting til 2021 for.
At this moment I don't even had any news from zFrontier anymore. Looks like they are really busy. I'm doing my best for this set to happen!I personally can wait however long it takes for this to happen.
Thank you all for the support tho :thumb:
I think Keyreative have run into some manufacturing issues with KAT/KAM which has lead to the delays. It's a new profile and they're working with reverse dye-sub which has its challenges. ZFrontier posted a bit of information in their most recent updates post (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-jan-27-2019). They also posted a few early pictures of KAM Starry Nights.
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To be honest, I'm glad KAM Wraith isn't the guinea pig. So hopefully, after KAM Starry Nights is done, all the problems will be sorted out and future runs will be smoother.
I think Keyreative have run into some manufacturing issues with KAT/KAM which has lead to the delays. It's a new profile and they're working with reverse dye-sub which has its challenges. ZFrontier posted a bit of information in their most recent updates post (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-jan-27-2019). They also posted a few early pictures of KAM Starry Nights.Anyone have a link for KAT Poseidon? I googled it but couldn't find anything.
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To be honest, I'm glad KAM Wraith isn't the guinea pig. So hopefully, after KAM Starry Nights is done, all the problems will be sorted out and future runs will be smoother.
I think Keyreative have run into some manufacturing issues with KAT/KAM which has lead to the delays. It's a new profile and they're working with reverse dye-sub which has its challenges. ZFrontier posted a bit of information in their most recent updates post (https://en.zfrontier.com/blogs/project-updates/project-updates-jan-27-2019). They also posted a few early pictures of KAM Starry Nights.Anyone have a link for KAT Poseidon? I googled it but couldn't find anything.
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To be honest, I'm glad KAM Wraith isn't the guinea pig. So hopefully, after KAM Starry Nights is done, all the problems will be sorted out and future runs will be smoother.
Any updates on this set? It looks pretty hype!
Any updates on this set? It looks pretty hype!
We should hear more after Bentō GB :thumb:
Any updates on this set? It looks pretty hype!
The Norde kit is awesome. But, it should include the therthiary legends to be really useful. 7 and 0 are missing the curly brackets, 8 and 9 are missing the square brackets, the + is missing the \ and so on. Also, I did not find a proper key for the ´` acute and grave accents, the ¨~^ dead key is not properly legended, 2, 3 and 4 are missing their currency symbols. A VIM arrow set in base color will be dope, also. Just my two cents.
Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
That's what I've been trying for months, and the manufacturer finally have some time do proceed that!
I should receive a prototype soon :eek:
Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
That's what I've been trying for months, and the manufacturer finally have some time do proceed that!
I should receive a prototype soon :eek:
Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
That's what I've been trying for months, and the manufacturer finally have some time do proceed that!
I should receive a prototype soon :eek:
Which set are you going to run first, Wraith or 2048?
:-( how long until Wraith?Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
That's what I've been trying for months, and the manufacturer finally have some time do proceed that!
I should receive a prototype soon :eek:
Which set are you going to run first, Wraith or 2048?
Extended 2048, mid-april.
:-( how long until Wraith?Love the design!
Maybe some sample of kam is necessary.
That's what I've been trying for months, and the manufacturer finally have some time do proceed that!
I should receive a prototype soon :eek:
Which set are you going to run first, Wraith or 2048?
Extended 2048, mid-april.
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any new info regarding the set?
It really is. I wish it was KAT instead of KAM... maybe someday.
That's weird. KAT Alpha has crispiest legends of all keycaps I've seen. So does this mean that KAM Wraith will be changed to KAT Wraith if the supposed dye-sub issue is fixed? ;DIt really is. I wish it was KAT instead of KAM... maybe someday.
I choose KAM because 6 months ago they had issues with overall dye-sub on KAT keycaps :thumb:
I don't know if they found a solution.
That's weird. KAT Alpha has crispiest legends of all keycaps I've seen. So does this mean that KAM Wraith will be changed to KAT Wraith if the supposed dye-sub issue is fixed? ;DIt really is. I wish it was KAT instead of KAM... maybe someday.
I choose KAM because 6 months ago they had issues with overall dye-sub on KAT keycaps :thumb:
I don't know if they found a solution.
Well, now KAM samples have been ordered. Maybe for another round.:thumb: Functional-wise I'm not liking uniform dimension and shaped profiles. However, KAM like KAT is thick and smooth, its top surface is bigger than DSA and it's taller than DSA too. This could work for me. I'll probably join for a set.
Also, KAM profile fits the retro esthethic better IMO ;)
Well, now KAM samples have been ordered. Maybe for another round.:thumb: Functional-wise I'm not liking uniform dimension and shaped profiles. However, KAM like KAT is thick and smooth, its top surface is bigger than DSA and it's taller than DSA too. This could work for me. I'll probably join for a set.
Also, KAM profile fits the retro esthethic better IMO ;)
PS: run a KAT gb in parallel and become twice as productive :cool:
Uniform is good for orthos and columnar staggered builds. I like it. :-)Well, now KAM samples have been ordered. Maybe for another round.:thumb: Functional-wise I'm not liking uniform dimension and shaped profiles. However, KAM like KAT is thick and smooth, its top surface is bigger than DSA and it's taller than DSA too. This could work for me. I'll probably join for a set.
Also, KAM profile fits the retro esthethic better IMO ;)
PS: run a KAT gb in parallel and become twice as productive :cool:
I'll take that in consideration, but the set will still firstly run in KAM.
Overall dye sub means reverse dye sub? Cause that could be the issues OP mentions. KAT alpha is all white so there are no issues with the regular dye sub.
they are hesitant to do but definitely doable
since the reverse thing on a sculpted profile is super hard to do
but doable
Overall dye sub means reverse dye sub? Cause that could be the issues OP mentions. KAT alpha is all white so there are no issues with the regular dye sub.
From Alex (zFrontier), earlier this year, about reverse dye-sub on KAT profile (they = manufacturer):Quotethey are hesitant to do but definitely doable
since the reverse thing on a sculpted profile is super hard to do
but doable
Interested
Hey!It's too much shine. The original rubber speccy, from which you took the whole design, is totally matte. The shine would destroy the feeling completely.
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
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Hey!It's too much shine. The original rubber speccy, from which you took the whole design, is totally matte. The shine would destroy the feeling completely.
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
I keep you guys in the loop :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/25u9rns.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rxKvLyK.jpg)
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Is the matte finish somehow part of the KAT whilst the KAM is normally shiny?Hey!It's too much shine. The original rubber speccy, from which you took the whole design, is totally matte. The shine would destroy the feeling completely.
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
I keep you guys in the loop :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/25u9rns.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rxKvLyK.jpg)
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Yeah, that's why I thought about KAT.
Is the matte finish somehow part of the KAT whilst the KAM is normally shiny?Hey!It's too much shine. The original rubber speccy, from which you took the whole design, is totally matte. The shine would destroy the feeling completely.
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
I keep you guys in the loop :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/25u9rns.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rxKvLyK.jpg)
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Yeah, that's why I thought about KAT.
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Oh boy, how twisted...Is the matte finish somehow part of the KAT whilst the KAM is normally shiny?Hey!It's too much shine. The original rubber speccy, from which you took the whole design, is totally matte. The shine would destroy the feeling completely.
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
I keep you guys in the loop :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/25u9rns.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rxKvLyK.jpg)
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Yeah, that's why I thought about KAT.
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Yeah apparently :rolleyes:
Are they bluer than in the render? I was hoping they'd be closer to the gray of the original Speccy keys.
Are they bluer than in the render? I was hoping they'd be closer to the gray of the original Speccy keys.
Yeah, color shouldn't have been so blueish. But that's not really an issue.
I ordered these samples in order to see how the overall dye-sub would look :thumb:
Hey!
Finally got the samples.
Will take some other shots soon™.
The keycaps aspect is really shiny, so I'm not sure that I'll go for KAM…
I might go for KAT R3 (to be confirmed).
I keep you guys in the loop :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/25u9rns.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/rxKvLyK.jpg)
I would prefer matte tbh. Though KAT R2 isn't exactly the same shape as KAM.
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Ugh. As much as I love this set, if you stuck it out and went with the glossy version I'd probably have to sit it out... Since people are throwing out ideas, what about the new [Mass]Drop ADA profile: https://drop.com/buy/tex-ada-keycap-set#overview (https://drop.com/buy/tex-ada-keycap-set#overview)?
Ugh. As much as I love this set, if you stuck it out and went with the glossy version I'd probably have to sit it out... Since people are throwing out ideas, what about the new [Mass]Drop ADA profile: https://drop.com/buy/tex-ada-keycap-set#overview (https://drop.com/buy/tex-ada-keycap-set#overview)?TEX ADA was on sale on kbdfans loooong before this drop sale. it was also cheaper but the drop dropped the price so it's slightly cheaper. I still would not buy it there unless the shipment is cheap.
was on sale on kbdfans loooong before this drop sale. it was also cheaper but the drop dropped the price so it's slightly cheaper. I still would not buy it there unless the shipment is cheap.
It's not shiny at all.was on sale on kbdfans loooong before this drop sale. it was also cheaper but the drop dropped the price so it's slightly cheaper. I still would not buy it there unless the shipment is cheap.
Oh, interesting, I didn't know that. KBDFans stuff has always been top quality in my experince. I haven't tried the ADA profile, but just based on the pictures it looks like it's not too shiny, it's double-shot ABS, it's retro-styled, and uniform profile, which seemed like a good match. Maybe shorter production queues too?
was on sale on kbdfans loooong before this drop sale. it was also cheaper but the drop dropped the price so it's slightly cheaper. I still would not buy it there unless the shipment is cheap.
Oh, interesting, I didn't know that. KBDFans stuff has always been top quality in my experince. I haven't tried the ADA profile, but just based on the pictures it looks like it's not too shiny, it's double-shot ABS, it's retro-styled, and uniform profile, which seemed like a good match. Maybe shorter production queues too?
Definitely laser etched, no good quality.was on sale on kbdfans loooong before this drop sale. it was also cheaper but the drop dropped the price so it's slightly cheaper. I still would not buy it there unless the shipment is cheap.
Oh, interesting, I didn't know that. KBDFans stuff has always been top quality in my experince. I haven't tried the ADA profile, but just based on the pictures it looks like it's not too shiny, it's double-shot ABS, it's retro-styled, and uniform profile, which seemed like a good match. Maybe shorter production queues too?
Drop's description of the TEX ADA keycap set says the legends are laser-engraved, so they aren't double-shot.
what now we can't even say it looks cool? It's really "refreshing" to see some glossy caps since most people want mat finish...Exactly - this glossy finish opens a lot of interesting options for colorways that will profit from it. Wraith is not one of these. Still, i love my glossy SA Honeywell, i wouldnt mind a similar set in KAM.. and i am certain that other colorways will look really good with that finish. Also that all over dye sub process gives really good results in terms of color saturation (that blue is interesting..)
And yeah glossy Wraith is not going to happen, biip said it himself... Besides Wraith looks totally off and wierd with glossy but that doesn't mean some other set is going to look terrible..
what now we can't even say it looks cool? It's really "refreshing" to see some glossy caps since most people want mat finish...I don't understand the reason for your latently aggressive tone. What I saw in this thread was majority of votes for glossy finish. That was my reaction on those votes. What is really going to happen is solely biip's decision. I just expressed my assumptive feelings. Btw. I never said glossy is not nice, quite contradictory. But since we are here in Wraith thread I expressed my opinion on glossy+wraith and nothing else. The same you expressed now yours.
And yeah glossy Wraith is not going to happen, biip said it himself... Besides Wraith looks totally off and wierd with glossy but that doesn't mean some other set is going to look terrible..
The issue here is that matte finish would fix the aesthetic of the ZX Spectrum better IMO.My sentiments exactly.
I'll try to get matte samples and we will see :thumb:
how bout mt3There is too small surface for it. Besides the surface is also too curved to let the complex legends shine.
seems doable for mt3Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/16LpOV4.jpg)
seems doable for mt3Have you seen all the legends? The KAM/Kat is the smallest possible surface imhoShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/16LpOV4.jpg)
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:
I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:
I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
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You mentioned earlier that KAM is available only in glossy finish. So i took it as a fact KAM==glossy. And please please don't take it as a criticism or whatever. Do whatever you find the right way. If there is a chance for KAM in matte that would be THE killer keyset ( of course only for my small individual :-) )Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:
I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
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What do you mean? I’m just trying to get a correct final product.
The initial design had matte finish. The samples are glossy. Even if some people like the result, I need to see how it would look with an accurate result.
I hope you can understand that :)
You mentioned earlier that KAM is available only in glossy finish. So i took it as a fact KAM==glossy. And please please don't take it as a criticism or whatever. Do whatever you find the right way. If there is a chance for KAM in matte that would be THE killer keyset ( of course only for my small individual :-) )Well, I chose KAM because of the large surface.Such a pity. I am out. I really hoped this could have been the ultimate keyset.
Sadly I had to work with the KAT template that's why the legends are so tight...
Keep in mind that this a prototype :thumb:
I thought about KAT R3 only (to keep the "uniform" look), but I'll have to check the top surface.
IIRC overall dye-sub on KAT isn't easy because how dug the keycap is.
I'm still working on the project and trying to find solutions with Keyreative tho!
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What do you mean? I’m just trying to get a correct final product.
The initial design had matte finish. The samples are glossy. Even if some people like the result, I need to see how it would look with an accurate result.
I hope you can understand that :)
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G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.
G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.
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Planck with pink kailh: meh. Anything standard staggered (full size mx clears, 68 with burn oranges) really meh (could not of course try fully but everything 1u). Chimera ergo with MOD-M tactile: so, so. But dactyl manuform (Outemu Skies v2.2 no led opening so less wobble) was very pleasant. I suppose for me they need tenting. Building corne now, plan to try them on T1s.G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.
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Can you elaborate? I'm typing on G20 right now (Iris keyboard) and it feels amazing, curious what makes G20 feel good/bad
Any movement on this set?
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I'm also trying to find a solution for Wraith. Oh wait… I have one 👀 Stay tuned for that one!
Planck with pink kailh: meh. Anything standard staggered (full size mx clears, 68 with burn oranges) really meh (could not of course try fully but everything 1u). Chimera ergo with MOD-M tactile: so, so. But dactyl manuform (Outemu Skies v2.2 no led opening so less wobble) was very pleasant. I suppose for me they need tenting. Building corne now, plan to try them on T1s.G20 would also be some kind of option. Not sure how it would feel in use, but it worked well for Semiotic (similarly dominated by large legends with a rougher texture).While G20 is the next thing to the original shape of the ZX Spectrum rubber pads it provides good feeling only on very few keyboards. It would decrease the sale pitch of the set drastically imho.
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Can you elaborate? I'm typing on G20 right now (Iris keyboard) and it feels amazing, curious what makes G20 feel good/bad
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Any movement on this set?
Excellent news!Any movement on this set?
Yes, I have to rework kits a bit but we will be able to get mate finish on KAM profile. More info soon.
Great to hear! Thanks for the update!Any movement on this set?
Yes, I have to rework kits a bit but we will be able to get mate finish on KAM profile. More info soon.
Rainbow on the ortho space?
Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
third :-)Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
For realz? Awesome sauce!Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
will do :thumb:
Zdravim davneho brata v zbroji...For realz? Awesome sauce!Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
will do :thumb:
As someone whose first computer in the still-communist Czechoslovakia in 1988 was the original Sinclair ZX Spectrum, I can't wait for this!
Rainbow on the ortho space?Second!
will do :thumb:
Rainbow on the ortho space?
I will rework all the kits after the Group Buy of KAT Milkshake :thumb:
Milkshake just finished up, so I'm sure biip is still catching their breath. Give 'em one more day, then let the pestering commence! :))
I plan to release another set very soon. Then I will finalize Wraith :thumb:
Tell me more!Milkshake just finished up, so I'm sure biip is still catching their breath. Give 'em one more day, then let the pestering commence! :))
I plan to release another set very soon. Then I will finalize Wraith :thumb:
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:
I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:
I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.
Awesome news. How's the quality? Are you satisfied with samples? ;)
I received new samples with a matte finish!
I'll post a massive update hopefully next month :thumb:
I'll make a potato pic of em tonight since it's night when I leave my work's place…
I might be able to shoot this weekend by daylight tho.
what!!!!!!!! this looks amazing!! is it still KAM (thick PBT and uniform profile)?
Didn't you originaly said they can't make matte KAM? So that means they again did someting new? :eek:
EDIT: my mistake. I always mix KAM and KAT :mad:
Omg. That looks fabulous. I feel the pain of my keeb account already...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gaPjT5t.png)
potato pic, don't mind about the colors tho.
I keep you guys in the loop :)
Omg. That looks fabulous. I feel the pain of my keeb account already...Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/gaPjT5t.png)
potato pic, don't mind about the colors tho.
I keep you guys in the loop :)
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Duuuuuude, these look soooo good!
I’m glad that the best sets are made by a competent designer who will make a kit for everyone instead of being either lazy or selfish. Not to mention his attention to detail. This is the first interest check I fell in love with and it’ll probably be my only group buy that proved to be worth the wait. Excited AF to buy every kit reguardless if I need them or not.Exactly my case here. Except I know already, that I will need some of the kits more than once ;-)
I’m glad that the best sets are made by a competent designer who will make a kit for everyone instead of being either lazy or selfish. Not to mention his attention to detail. This is the first interest check I fell in love with and it’ll probably be my only group buy that proved to be worth the wait. Excited AF to buy every kit reguardless if I need them or not.Exactly my case here. Except I know already, that I will need some of the kits more than once ;-)
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I feel like this set is so close to GB I can smell those plastic pbt rainbowsthink bushido is first ?
I feel like this set is so close to GB I can smell those plastic pbt rainbowsthink bushido is first ?
OMG, can’t wait ! Any change on the kits of FP ? I hope not, they seem really nice the way they are...
I feel like this set is so close to GB I can smell those plastic pbt rainbowsthink bushido is first ?
Nah, Wraith will be live soon hopefully!
O wow I meant soon as in only a group buy after bishops away. But if it might be coming sooner..... my wallet is ready. All kits please.
I grew up on zx spectrum, oric atmos, amstrad cpc 664, apple ii and a few others. Looking at your renders brought up so much memories of 8 bit gaming with my cousins and my first dabbling with the by then onboard basic playground or with machine code then assembly when mainstream assemblers became a reality that typing this comment makes me weepy. I am literally in 300% and if there is anything that would make this even awesomer it would be a set of zx 81 alphas.Oh, brother I wept my share already. Had to rebuy the original ZX Spectrum+ on ebay and bought a ZX Spectrum rubber BT keyboard and modded with raspberry pi barebone emulator.Show Image(http://xahlee.info/kbd/i/Sinclair_ZX81_keyboard_6.jpg)
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... and bought a ZX Spectrum rubber BT keyboard and modded with raspberry pi barebone emulator.
... and bought a ZX Spectrum rubber BT keyboard and modded with raspberry pi barebone emulator.
Did you get the one from the Elite Systems Kickstarter?
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It wasn't kickstarter anymore. I just bought it on ebay or amazon I don't remember. I bought it originally because there are emulators supporting the chain codes it sends for the basic commands.... and bought a ZX Spectrum rubber BT keyboard and modded with raspberry pi barebone emulator.
Did you get the one from the Elite Systems Kickstarter?
I did and mine is misbehaving... Great idea putting a Pi with an emulator inside!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/V2afPQf.jpg)
Any updates? It would be nice with a rough ETA, since I am considering KAT Drifter, but I definitely don't wanna miss out on this due to lack of funds.
The Norde kit is awesome. But, it should include the therthiary legends to be really useful. 7 and 0 are missing the curly brackets, 8 and 9 are missing the square brackets, the + is missing the \ and so on. Also, I did not find a proper key for the ´` acute and grave accents, the ¨~^ dead key is not properly legended, 2, 3 and 4 are missing their currency symbols. A VIM arrow set in base color will be dope, also. Just my two cents.
Thanks! I'll fix that :thumb:
january sounds nice, waiting for kit updates .... how big the shopping cart has to be ;)Any updates? It would be nice with a rough ETA, since I am considering KAT Drifter, but I definitely don't wanna miss out on this due to lack of funds.
I planed to post the update while ago but I’m still waiting for renders atm.
Group Buy will be in January! More information soon.
I planed to post the update while ago but I’m still waiting for renders atm.january sounds nice, waiting for kit updates .... how big the shopping cart has to be ;)
Group Buy will be in January! More information soon.
I wish i could be so rational. I am getting at least two alphas for non staggered and staggered builds and all extension kits accordingly. (Except nordeuk)I planed to post the update while ago but I’m still waiting for renders atm.january sounds nice, waiting for kit updates .... how big the shopping cart has to be ;)
Group Buy will be in January! More information soon.
Much hype! Can't wait. I'm a full-on ortho guy, but this is one of the few sets I'll be getting 60/65% kits, just in case. That's how much I love it
Any updates? It would be nice with a rough ETA, since I am considering KAT Drifter, but I definitely don't wanna miss out on this due to lack of funds.
I planed to post the update while ago but I’m still waiting for renders atm.
Group Buy will be in January! More information soon.
I'm not even sad about the change to Matte any more.
Those sample are absolutely beautiful.
Excited!
I'm not even sad about the change to Matte any more.
Those sample are absolutely beautiful.
Excited!
It's going to be Matte?
Thought they all came shiny lol. Add to the bucket list for January then
I'm not even sad about the change to Matte any more.
Those sample are absolutely beautiful.
Excited!
It's going to be Matte?
Thought they all came shiny lol. Add to the bucket list for January then
Samples getting better and better.
Note that the final surface will be smooth :thumb:
I have to rework the blue color.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7rjk5Mb.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Su0hvm5.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/3Xd3vFz.jpg)
The update is coming very soon.
I might remove the 40% support from the base kit and put it in the ergo kit if that make more sense.
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I'll update the initial thread when I'll get the new renders.
New kits (pricing is coming soon):
I might remove the 40% support from the base kit and put it in the ergo kit if that make more sense.
I'm surprised this got reshuffled so aggressively into big kits rather than the usual pick-and-choose format... Why is that?
No more little red spacebar? That was my favorite part.
Kinda wish the rainbow spacebars were available in the Space-kit though. They're a huge part of the set's identity for me and while I will totally pay for a kit I don't need just to get them, I wish I didn't have to.
Kinda wish the rainbow spacebars were available in the Space-kit though. They're a huge part of the set's identity for me and while I will totally pay for a kit I don't need just to get them, I wish I didn't have to.
Agreed - is there any chance you would reconsider and move those striped spacebars to the spacebar kit? And poasibly include a striped 2u one as well? ;) (I'd totally understand the latter wasn't feasible though.)
No more little red spacebar? That was my favorite part.
It didn’t fit the spirit/aesthetic of Sinclair keyboards IMO.
Kinda wish the rainbow spacebars were available in the Space-kit though. They're a huge part of the set's identity for me and while I will totally pay for a kit I don't need just to get them, I wish I didn't have to.
Agreed - is there any chance you would reconsider and move those striped spacebars to the spacebar kit? And poasibly include a striped 2u one as well? ;) (I'd totally understand the latter wasn't feasible though.)
I’ll definitely rework the space kit and include a 2u rainbow spacebar :)
I’ll definitely rework the space kit and include a 2u rainbow spacebar :)
hello Biip, I have the impression that the real sign of the apostrophe has been replaced by a half English quotation mark. Could you correct that? Thx
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I'd suggest either adding -/_ & +/= keys for the top row or replacing the del/graph keys for them. That and I think it would be better if the outer 1.5u legends were more "generic" (similar to the old ergo kit). It's going to be near impossible to cover the layouts used by everyone for ergo boards. For example I would need a 1.5u tilde, backslash, quotation mark, but no caps lock. So legends which don't correspond to regular keys makes more sense imo.
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some newer ergo boards (Boardwalk, Sol2) require two additional 1.5u mods, would you mind including those in this kit? This has especially been prevalent for KAT kits lately.
Boardwalk support would also be really nice (KAT Lich had a nice kit for it)
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I'd suggest either adding -/_ & +/= keys for the top row or replacing the del/graph keys for them. That and I think it would be better if the outer 1.5u legends were more "generic" (similar to the old ergo kit). It's going to be near impossible to cover the layouts used by everyone for ergo boards. For example I would need a 1.5u tilde, backslash, quotation mark, but no caps lock. So legends which don't correspond to regular keys makes more sense imo.
Cool! It's lacking a homing kit now but that's fine, with how it messes up the sublegends I guess this set won't be super popular with alternative layouts despite being uniform profile and I will just use the included non-homing keys and scramble the alphas :P
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I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
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I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
I should've been more specific, for the -/_ & =/+ keys in the ergo kit I meant 1u size. I do still think the 1.5u keys should be more 'generic' (like the legends in the extension kit). Are the peek/out, code/in & rnd/merge caps in the ergo kit intended to be doubled up btw?
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:D
Love the nav-kit!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RBiZv4R.png)
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I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
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Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.Please!
I don't know if I should say it, it's so obvious, but biip is the best. Period.
If this goes to GB with these kits, who from Europe wants to share keys from the nav kit? I only want homing N and T, so Dvorak users and users of HHKB arrows, WASD arrows and IJKL/HJKL arrows can applyHey, I would like the IJKL arrows please ;)
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I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
Any chance of an extra 'b' key in the spacebars kit for Alice boards?😠😠😠😠
people using both hands for b... just choose one ffs
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I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
Any chance of an extra 'b' key in the spacebars kit for Alice boards?
update!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Z38X2Fb.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/hH0D9DZ.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RBiZv4R.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Lu65RHZ.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CbDo8oA.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/KrD5kFX.png)
I'll have the retail prices very soon, but as mentioned the price of the base kit should not exceed $100.
The Group Buy will be around mid-January, I'll post the final date when it gets confirmed by all the vendors :thumb:
Could you add the tertiary characters to the int 7,8,9,0, < and ß keys? They're not needed a lot but are important.
Any chance of an extra 'b' key in the spacebars kit for Alice boards?😠😠😠😠
people using both hands for b... just choose one ffs
Luckily KAM is a flat profile and you should have plenty of 1u keys left over to put there in place of the extra B. It won't look perfect, but let's be honest, having two Bs on your keyboard doesn't really look perfect in the first place.
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Hey biip,+1
Love the kits! I only have one comment to add. For the Ergo kit, is there any chance to get some blanks, or at least 2x2u blank spacebars? I know for Boardrun/Boardwalk users, those 2u spacebars would be incredibly handy. The text on the spacebar is awesome but since Boardwalks use horizontal spacebars, the text would look out of place. It's nice that there are 2x2u spacebars in the spacebar kit but it would be awesome to have a proper set of spacebars for us Boardwalkers and Boardrunners :)
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Please this. Was thinking about using the white w/ the up arrow and Yellow w/ the down arrow but you originally had the lower and raise keys in the first ortho kit. Those keys should be included in the ergo set as well. Please.
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Please this. Was thinking about using the white w/ the up arrow and Yellow w/ the down arrow but you originally had the lower and raise keys in the first ortho kit. Those keys should be included in the ergo set as well. Please.
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Please this. Was thinking about using the white w/ the up arrow and Yellow w/ the down arrow but you originally had the lower and raise keys in the first ortho kit. Those keys should be included in the ergo set as well. Please.
Then I'd probably remove the 2x blank 1U.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q7xF7Zl.png)
Then I'd probably remove the 2x blank 1U.
Thoughts on adding back raise and lower keys for ortho? There's not really a good substitute for them.
Please this. Was thinking about using the white w/ the up arrow and Yellow w/ the down arrow but you originally had the lower and raise keys in the first ortho kit. Those keys should be included in the ergo set as well. Please.
Then I'd probably remove the 2x blank 1U.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/Q7xF7Zl.png)
Just thinking out loud with a low effort shoop.
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I'm ok because I'm in for many kits, but for ortho is 2u space really more popular than grid 2x 1u?
I'm ok because I'm in for many kits, but for ortho is 2u space really more popular than grid 2x 1u?
Also planing to do deskmats…
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would that work?
Definitely not a fan of removing the blanks for explicitly "raise" and "lower" labelled keys. I think the ortho users here shot themselves in the foot a bit, just using some other mod key for raise/lower would have been the far superior choice over making this more expensive for grid users. The magenta/true vid and green/inv vid keys for example would have been perfectly fine choices of keys there, and I don't see the necessity of explicit lower/raise keys when not even ctrl can be found in this set.
If the raise/lower keys are kept, I would like to mention that I don't like the arrow sublegend on them. One reason for that being that raise is often placed right next to real arrows, which use the same symbol. Also, the inspiration is very light on symbols as legends, only using them for the arrows.
Choosing different sublegends from the inspiration, I'd say red 'over' for raise and red 'inverse' for lower would look cool. I'd also prefer "raise mode" and "lower mode", like extend mode, or simply white centered raise and lower on its own like print etc currently look.
The blanks were not removed though.
The blanks were not removed though.... you don't actually need language to be this level of explicit... but here you go: removed from the base kit, added to the spacebar kit. moved from the base kit to the spacebar kit.
oh by the way, I just noticed that the base kit includes the 1u extend mode key twice. maybe we can trade one of those for 1 or 2 1u blanks? grid ortho isn't _that_ niche
My bad dude.The blanks were not removed though.... you don't actually need language to be this level of explicit... but here you go: removed from the base kit, added to the spacebar kit. moved from the base kit to the spacebar kit.
in the next sentence I said that this change makes this set more expensive for ortho grid users. why? because they have to buy the spacebar kit, to which the 2 blanks were added when they were removed from the base kit.
lol sorry for this!
oh by the way, I just noticed that the base kit includes the 1u extend mode key twice. maybe we can trade one of those for 1 or 2 1u blanks? grid ortho isn't _that_ niche
edit: the 1.5u edit/def fn key is also included twice, though it could be that one of those was meant to be 1.75u. anyway, I see a lot of ways to squeeze another 1u blank in there
My bad dude.no problem, sorry for the salty reply!
No worries I should have read moreMy bad dude.no problem, sorry for the salty reply!
whoops! Will fix this…
I'm still trying to find the best solution about these lower/raise keys…
I think it would help to keep 40s in base, but put ortho coverage in ergo. That means all sorts of ortho layouts are covered with that one, including boardwalk.
I also think the ortho kit would better go with the ergo kit.
I also think the ortho kit would better go with the ergo kit.
I'd very much prefer keeping ortho in base. It's just a few keys (spaces, a few 1u mods and now lower/raise) that it shouldn't matter to the base price too much.
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That's not what I'm concerned with. It's just that there's more overlap between ortho and ergo when you look at ortho split thumb clusters or boardwalk.
Pretty much every keeb.io split ortho board supports two 2U space bars: Iris, Nyquist, Viterbi and older Levinsons. Iris at least is pretty darn popular.I'm ok because I'm in for many kits, but for ortho is 2u space really more popular than grid 2x 1u?
i think it is honestly
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Also planing to do deskmats…Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/6GaYrVL.png)
Just thinking out loud with a low effort shoop.
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I'd be ok to get rid of the extra 1.5 mods if that lower the cost.
Also, your layout creates duplicates though.
Also, could the two blank keys in the ergo kit become curly brace/square bracket keys?
I think the prices for the Ergo kit and the Extensions kit might be swapped? Seems strange that the huge Ergo kit would be $70 but Extension $110
Will you use proxies? Do you have an estimated ship date?
Thanks for making this kit matte. I would have been bought as shiny too, but matte is much better, I can't wait to get it.
Will you use proxies? Do you have an estimated ship date?
Thanks for making this kit matte. I would have been bought as shiny too, but matte is much better, I can't wait to get it.
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.
Hopefully, this will lead to cheaper KAM matte sets in the future?
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.
Very much hoping CandyKeys pricing is going to be reasonable. I like the shop but it seems to be generally more expensive than MyKeyboard.
Can't wait nonetheless!
Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93€Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
Novelkeys, Candykeys, Zfrontier, and Dailyclack.
No shipping date yet.
Very much hoping CandyKeys pricing is going to be reasonable. I like the shop but it seems to be generally more expensive than MyKeyboard.
Can't wait nonetheless!
Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93€
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.
Now I'm scared.
base | $95.00 |
calc | $16.00 |
ergo | $65.00 |
extension | $30.00 |
intl | $35.00 |
nav | $11.00 |
space | $22.00 |
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.
These prices are very much in line (good) with what I would expect from a pbt keycap groupbuy, but I see this includes co-financing of new molds. What kind of pricing is it without the co-financing (say base for example)?
Now I'm scared.
base $95.00 calc $16.00 ergo $65.00 extension $30.00 intl $35.00 nav $11.00 space $22.00
Aww, people really wanna ditch the shiny molds? I was hoping to have a set or two in those.
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.
Now I'm scared.
base $95.00 calc $16.00 ergo $65.00 extension $30.00 intl $35.00 nav $11.00 space $22.00
Are you sure in this number? It would be cheaper with VAT than US price without taxes.
KAT Milkshake prices were reasonable, so I'm not afraid of EU pricing.
Just as a heads up, those prices aren't NovelKeys pricing. I think they are zF's. We will have our pricing to biip today.
Now I'm scared.
base $95.00 calc $16.00 ergo $65.00 extension $30.00 intl $35.00 nav $11.00 space $22.00
:eek:
I think this will be the first time that I'll buy two base kits. I hope that Keyreative will be able to produce all running and soon-to-be-running KAT/KAM GBs without significant delays.
Is it possible to make the 2.75 and 2u spacebar keys into 2.75c and 2c ?The 2u space is already convex as far as I can see. Did you mean 2.25u and 2.75u? I second that, would be cool to have convex spacebars for split boards.
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I'd love to pick up a shiny kit just for display, but for actual use, I'm looking forward to the matte finish.
Sad to see candykeys as the EU vendor, will probably buy anyway but oh wellWhy is that? Their service seems to be pretty good from my experience.
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Wait are the 2u blanks in the ergo kit not convex? I'd prefer them convex! In fact I think all the 2u keys in that kit could use being convex, or would anyone mind convex thumb keys?
Hmmm, trying to figure this out. So is the alpha set alone enough for an ortho 60/65?
Hmmm, trying to figure this out. So is the alpha set alone enough for an ortho 60/65?That kind of depends on what an ortho 65 is supposed to be I would say?
Hmmm, trying to figure this out. So is the alpha set alone enough for an ortho 60/65?That kind of depends on what an ortho 65 is supposed to be I would say?
Hmmm, trying to figure this out. So is the alpha set alone enough for an ortho 60/65?That kind of depends on what an ortho 65 is supposed to be I would say?
Hmmm, trying to figure this out. So is the alpha set alone enough for an ortho 60/65?That kind of depends on what an ortho 65 is supposed to be I would say?
You could even cover an XD75 layout with the base kit :)
Any updates on EU pricing?
Base kit estimated price (including tax.): 93€
Any updates on EU pricing?
base | 93.00 € |
calc | 20.00 € |
ergo | 58.00 € |
extension | 34.00 € |
intl | 38.00 € |
nav | 19.00 € |
space | 23.00 € |
Pricing is good. But it will be still heavy hit on my wallet when I order everything "I need" :-)Any updates on EU pricing?
base 93.00 € calc 20.00 € ergo 58.00 € extension 34.00 € intl 38.00 € nav 19.00 € space 23.00 €
Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
Pricing is good. But it will be still heavy hit on my wallet when K order everything "I need" :-)
I understand red is a likeable accent colour, but honestly, this set has such a strong theme that it really doesn't fit in.Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
I understand red is a likeable accent colour, but honestly, this set has such a strong theme that it really doesn't fit in.Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
I understand red is a likeable accent colour, but honestly, this set has such a strong theme that it really doesn't fit in.Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
I really love the way you try to keep true to the original aesthetics. There are many thinkable drops and branches of this design, but it would lose the vibe. Which is I think the biggest appeal for the majority of buyers.I understand red is a likeable accent colour, but honestly, this set has such a strong theme that it really doesn't fit in.Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
This.
These red accents were a pure invention and didn’t fit the esthetic of Sinclair boards.
I really love the way you try to keep true to the original aesthetics. There are many thinkable drops and branches of this design, but it would lose the vibe. Which is I think the biggest appeal for the majority of buyers.I understand red is a likeable accent colour, but honestly, this set has such a strong theme that it really doesn't fit in.Btw Biip, why did you drop the all red bag keys back to normal colored nab keysI'm guessing it didn't fit the aesthetic for the set? But yeah I miss the red nav keys
And it lowers the cost :p
This.
These red accents were a pure invention and didn’t fit the esthetic of Sinclair boards.
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Kit | Novelkeys | Candykeys | Zfrontier | Zfrontier CN | Dailyclack |
— | — | — | — | — | |
base | $95.00 | 93.00€ | $95.00 | ¥578.00 | $152.00 |
calc | $16.00 | 20.00€ | $17.00 | ¥100.00 | $26.00 |
ergo | $65.00 | 58.00€ | $65.00 | ¥395.00 | $104.00 |
extension | $30.00 | 34.00€ | $30.00 | ¥185.00 | $48.00 |
intl | $35.00 | 38.00€ | $35.00 | ¥216.00 | $56.00 |
nav | $11.00 | 19.00€ | $12.00 | ¥72.00 | $24.00 |
space | $22.00 | 23.00€ | $23.00 | ¥135.00 | $35.00 |
So what's the nav kit for?
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So what's the nav kit for?
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Sexy Boardwalk is sexy. Any idea what case that is?
GB is live, no?
GB is live, no?
Sorry if this has been asked already, but is the space kit 1.50 blank key actually 1.50, or 1.25?
Sorry if this has been asked already, but is the space kit 1.50 blank key actually 1.50, or 1.25?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/obXG4fX.png)
Sorry if this has been asked already, but is the space kit 1.50 blank key actually 1.50, or 1.25?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/obXG4fX.png)
The legend is "1.50" while the key pictured is 1.25...