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Offline macguy80

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Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 20:26:52 »
Hi,

I've never replaced the keycaps on any keyboard yet, but I wonder, what would be the most different experience in terms of sound? I know the stock keycaps are thin ABS, so of course, my mind goes immediately to thick PBT, but I've seen some videos of SA (and DSA) keycaps that sound wonderful, although I'm not sure what they're made of. Which has me wondering, should I also change the profile?  I do like the vintage look. How much does profile affect sound, apart from material and thickness?

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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:08:48 »
Not sure, but i was able to play with a set of SA keys on MX-Clear switches and I will say it was definitely more mellow sounding than my board but i cant really make a comparison with 2 different switch types and two different plates/cases. I can say the SA keys are very tall in comparison... something I really liked and will definitely jump on board with if i can get in on a set.
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 21:22:46 »
In my opinion,DSA and SA set are only good at looking.After few SA and DSA sets,i came back to cherry profile.Try Gateron PBT or Leopold stock PBT caps,you will see the difference :D
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 03 January 2016, 22:55:48 »
"Best" is, of course, subjective.

If the stock KUL keycaps are thin ABS, then almost anything else will be better (although legend consistency may vary).

SA will be ABS, but there's a LOT of plastic in those, and they are recommended only for stiffer switches.  I prefer uniform row 3 profile SA keycaps over sculpted.

Or some thick GMK or JTK keycaps, Cherry profile, would provide a different feel and sound.
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 21:54:28 »
If the stock KUL keycaps are thin ABS, then almost anything else will be better (although legend consistency may vary).
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 21:56:53 »
Due to it having a standard ANSI layout, pretty much any set you see, will fit. Outside of that there is no real "best" caps. Some love ABS, some love PBT. Some love high profiles, others love low profiles. Finding the perfect set is quite a journey though
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:28:39 »
Thanks to all who have replied. Finding the perfect set is indeed quite a journey, but they say that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. :)

Most of the sets I have found are via massdrop or other group buys.

In the world of keycaps, is there such a thing as "off-the-shelf"?

At this early stage, I'm not looking for "perfect" so much as "better"

Any recommendations on a good starter set? Since I like the PBT on my RF, I think I'll start there. :)

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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:31:02 »
Thanks to all who have replied. Finding the perfect set is indeed quite a journey, but they say that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. :)

Most of the sets I have found are via massdrop or other group buys.

In the world of keycaps, is there such a thing as "off-the-shelf"?

At this early stage, I'm not looking for "perfect" so much as "better"

Any recommendations on a good starter set? Since I like the PBT on my RF, I think I'll start there. :)

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=862

Those are thick pbt. There is also a dye sub variant of that set for a little cheaper, but they dont look quite as crisp.
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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:33:32 »
Thanks to all who have replied. Finding the perfect set is indeed quite a journey, but they say that a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. :)

Most of the sets I have found are via massdrop or other group buys.

In the world of keycaps, is there such a thing as "off-the-shelf"?

At this early stage, I'm not looking for "perfect" so much as "better"

Any recommendations on a good starter set? Since I like the PBT on my RF, I think I'll start there. :)
Not sure what color your realforce is, but if it is black, these caps will look similar.
http://www.geekkeys.com/geekkeys-dark-grey-dyesub-thick-pbt-full-keyset/

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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 04 January 2016, 22:38:54 »
Excellent! Between those two sites, I think I've found just what I need! Thanks! :)

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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 05 January 2016, 20:43:39 »
How about Vortex PBT Double Shot caps? Those seem to be fairly well regarded, am I right? :)

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Re: Best replacement keycaps for KuL es-87?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 05 January 2016, 21:06:20 »
See classified someone sold jtk. My opinion is that keycaps the best one if you like abs and its a high quality keycaps just like pmk