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Offline cmander7688

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 06 May 2021, 18:22:43 »
dope. I'd pick up a set, I'm a sucker for all things black&grey.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #151 on: Thu, 06 May 2021, 21:36:38 »
this is the embodiment of "nut"

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #152 on: Fri, 07 May 2021, 03:46:10 »
Inspiration 10/10
Looks great, good luck!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #153 on: Sun, 09 May 2021, 04:22:48 »
personally don't care for accents, iso and numpad in base kit

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #154 on: Sun, 09 May 2021, 18:44:25 »
I'm liking this set a lot. Please include UK-ISO in base; if you don't, I definitely won't be buying it and if you do I definitely will.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #155 on: Sun, 09 May 2021, 19:06:12 »
There is at least one person on this page that definitely won't be buying this set.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 16 June 2021, 11:34:33 »
Hope this is still slowly moving along!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #157 on: Thu, 17 June 2021, 01:56:51 »
Hope this is still slowly moving along!

it sure is, I wanted to teach myself how to render first before I updated the IC. Should be within a few weeks. Looking to announce vendors as well.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #158 on: Fri, 18 June 2021, 22:09:43 »
That render looks incredible.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 21 June 2021, 08:12:26 »
Any hope for an R1 equals (=) key so we can use this on compact 1800 boards like Zambumon's Sar?

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 21 June 2021, 16:57:47 »
This set has a sort of essential beauty to it. An instant classic! Wishing you all the best.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 21 June 2021, 19:29:52 »
Love it! In for one

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #162 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 11:40:34 »
Any hope for an R1 equals (=) key so we can use this on compact 1800 boards like Zambumon's Sar?

Most likely not. I'm looking to have a pretty ambitious base kit since I am switching the black to stock GMK to get better prices and there are other keys that I would prefer to add that would be of more use.

This set has a sort of essential beauty to it. An instant classic! Wishing you all the best.  :thumb:

Thank you, Lewis. You as well!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #163 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 14:26:59 »
No 40's? Cringe.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #164 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 15:47:57 »
Will you be down to change mods to Text only or Icon+Text?

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #165 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 17:31:15 »
Any hope for an R1 equals (=) key so we can use this on compact 1800 boards like Zambumon's Sar?

Most likely not. I'm looking to have a pretty ambitious base kit since I am switching the black to stock GMK to get better prices and there are other keys that I would prefer to add that would be of more use.

i understand not putting it in base, but please consider an extension kit with that key as well as 7u spacebar support for macos users who detest 1.5u Alt keys. (this would require two 1.5u Super keys and an additional 1u Alt.) honestly, no point in waiting a year or more for a kit that doesn't support my preferred layout. if it's niche, i'm ok with that (but it's not).

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #166 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 17:48:34 »
No 40's? Cringe.

I plan on adding 3 key 40s to the base but have decided against a dedicated kit.

Will you be down to change mods to Text only or Icon+Text?

The set is staying as icon mods. I highly prefer them for this set because of the less busy look.

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i understand not putting it in base, but please consider an extension kit with that key as well as 7u spacebar support for macos users who detest 1.5u Alt keys. (this would require two 1.5u Super keys and an additional 1u Alt.) honestly, no point in waiting a year or more for a kit that doesn't support my preferred layout. if it's niche, i'm ok with that (but it's not).

Yeah, I am for sure interested in adding an extension kit similar to the ones found on GMK Jags/Taiga. Would also be a good excuse to add some shine throughs to the set.  :thumb: 
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 22 June 2021, 18:15:35 »
YES!!! I'll get my 1.5u Supers! I love an extension kit as they seem to get more popular as times goes on.

(weirdly have collected macro column'd keyboards recently too, I'll welcome that as well ;))

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 25 June 2021, 05:01:00 »
LOVE the GMK Jags/Taiga extension kit! Please do this!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #169 on: Fri, 25 June 2021, 05:55:18 »
I'd prefer having accent space bars or at least a 6.25u gray space bar. I like to have more color combos.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 25 June 2021, 19:58:11 »
This is good. +1 for the extension kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #171 on: Sat, 26 June 2021, 13:17:09 »
Any hope for a 40% extension kit?
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #172 on: Sun, 27 June 2021, 18:31:39 »
Any hope for a 40% extension kit?

Probably not. Out of 400 responses only 25 people asked for a 40s kit so far. I am adding 3 key 40s for physical layout support but I do not plan on adding a dedicated kit since it will most likely have trouble hitting MOQ.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #173 on: Sun, 27 June 2021, 18:44:23 »
I am really digging the look of this. Gives me metal vibes especially with the Iron rendor.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black
« Reply #174 on: Fri, 23 July 2021, 23:10:18 »
Some updates:

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- The custom RAL has been changed to stock CR. I've decided to do this since the difference was negligible and will allow for more flexibility in kitting and pricing.

- I've added 3 key 40s to base as well as full Alice support. 

- I've dropped accent arrows from base since I don't see them being particularly necessary and will only lend itself to driving up cost whereas I'd rather have alice/40s.

- I've done some new renders on the Onyx and 910 with more to come.

- I'm working on building up the rest of the kits and still deciding on some things (extension kit, r5) before I present them here for further feedback.

- Vendors will be announced next update most likely and the set is slated to run early q4

Thanks
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #175 on: Sat, 24 July 2021, 00:15:23 »
Hype

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #176 on: Sat, 24 July 2021, 13:34:00 »
like the kits changes nice work

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #177 on: Sat, 24 July 2021, 20:08:22 »
I love the added 40s support! I'm getting this.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 08:22:20 »
Sad to see that this has moved to CR. Whilst it's good for compatibility, it means the uniqueness of the set as a whole has been diminished.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #179 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 10:39:31 »
Personally glad that it has moved to CR as I won't have to purchase separate spacebar kits.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #180 on: Tue, 03 August 2021, 11:09:33 »
Sad to see that this has moved to CR. Whilst it's good for compatibility, it means the uniqueness of the set as a whole has been diminished.


This was definitely a criticism I was expecting. In reality, the difference between CR and the custom RAL was completely overstated in the original renders. The difference is pretty arbitrary in real life and all I saw it doing was driving up cost on a kit that I would like to be comprehensive and well priced. My main goal for the set was a more subdued look with the grey legends, icon mods, and an encompassing base kit which is what it currently represents. I do understand the disappointment though.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Some Updates
« Reply #181 on: Mon, 16 August 2021, 15:22:43 »
Update 8/16/21

- I've uploaded all the kits as well as the deskmat. I plan on submitting quotes for the base kit with and without alice support. The reason for this is because CR spacebars should be useful to a good amount of sets as well as being relatively cheap. The IC form was about 50/50 on having it in base.

- I've added a Macro kit as well as an R5 kit. Both of which were requested in some capacity on the IC as well as the google form. Although they weren't the overwhelming majority they are definitely two kits I want personally. I think we definitely have more flexibility being that everything is stock.

- The accent kit is something I've gone back and forth on in terms of colors for a while. I've decided to lean into the bright neon colors as I think those contrast and look the best with the set. They add a good amount of flair for an otherwise subdued look if you so choose.

- I decided to switch the US vendor to Vala Supply in order to get a much sooner GB. The only thing we are waiting on should be deskmat protos and quotes from GMK. After that, we should have the green light.

Thanks.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #182 on: Mon, 16 August 2021, 16:10:30 »
Would love to have this! gl w ic

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #183 on: Mon, 16 August 2021, 23:50:47 »
is that forties support in the base kit? yes please!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #184 on: Tue, 17 August 2021, 11:20:15 »
is that forties support in the base kit? yes please!

Yup, seemed like a no brainer with the stock colors. Don't think a full 40s kit would fair too well.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #185 on: Tue, 17 August 2021, 13:47:07 »
Answered my prayers… I'm in.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #186 on: Tue, 17 August 2021, 13:47:21 »
Fantastic kitting and colors. Take my money.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #187 on: Thu, 19 August 2021, 11:11:26 »
definitely looking forward to this.
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #188 on: Wed, 25 August 2021, 11:58:58 »
Zfrontier added for China so we now have our full list.

We are just awaiting quotes back from GMK and GB should thus follow promptly after we receive those. Looking to be sometime in October or early November depending on quotes.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #189 on: Fri, 27 August 2021, 05:26:39 »
Please please get UK ISO in to a kit somewhere.  Love everything about this set.
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #190 on: Fri, 27 August 2021, 19:25:59 »
Please please get UK ISO in to a kit somewhere.  Love everything about this set.

Sorry, but there was very little interest in UK ISO on my IC form. Specifically 19 of 456. I opted to just do basic ISO instead.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #191 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 02:04:04 »
This is hot!  :p

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« Reply #192 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 02:30:53 »
Please please get UK ISO in to a kit somewhere.  Love everything about this set.

Sorry, but there was very little interest in UK ISO on my IC form. Specifically 19 of 456. I opted to just do basic ISO instead.

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #193 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 03:49:27 »
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Hi! I've been looking at these kits, and I have some suggestions and notes for your consideration.

  • Please consider offering R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn either in the Base kit or the Extension kit. Currently, there is no way to get those keys, so users who need them (primarily for various popular 65% layouts) have no way of getting them.

  • The Extension kit currently has a second R4 1u Ctrl key, which is unnecessary as the only real use case for it is on 40% boards. It should be removed (e.g. to make room for the aforementioned keys) or, alternatively, changed to a generic legend such as Code or Meta so it can be used for other things.

  • Yet another approach would be to merge the PgUp/PgDn keys with the extra generic key by having just two keys and giving them agnostic legends (e.g. R3 Init, R4 Out; you can find a full list here). I'm personally fine with this approach, but I know some people don't like it. If you don't want to experiment, doing what I said in the above two paragraphs is probably your best bet.

  • On a different note, the default numpad 5 key in Base looks to be a regular, non-scooped key. This is likely just a rendering error, but you may want to fix it either way.

  • It may be worth including R5 1u Ctrl, Alt, Fn keys in the Row 5 kit, for 1800/CP, HHKB and some other layouts that are likely to use a 7u bottom row (which is what the kit is targeting). In fact, I would say that these keys would be more useful than the two R5 macro column keys, but I guess those could be a personal inclusion or something.

  • Last and kind of least, you could consider moving the second 2.25u Shift to Extension, and the Alice B to Spacebars, in order to remove some not strictly necessary keys from Base. However, I would argue against this, as you can currently get correct Alice support with just the Base kit if you're okay with using Shifts as spacebars. (There's also the fact that putting B in Spacebars would be adding an extra color to that kit.)

Thanks for reading!
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #194 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 07:05:37 »
Absolutely gorgeous kit. If this runs successfully I would also love to see a reverse colourway as someone else mentioned.

The main reason I am here however is to beg for UK ISO support. I'd also happily buy a full NORDEUK kit if that was more likely to sell.

GL!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #195 on: Sat, 28 August 2021, 11:10:40 »
Hi! I've been looking at these kits, and I have some suggestions and notes for your consideration.

  • Please consider offering R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn either in the Base kit or the Extension kit. Currently, there is no way to get those keys, so users who need them (primarily for various popular 65% layouts) have no way of getting them.

  • The Extension kit currently has a second R4 1u Ctrl key, which is unnecessary as the only real use case for it is on 40% boards. It should be removed (e.g. to make room for the aforementioned keys) or, alternatively, changed to a generic legend such as Code or Meta so it can be used for other things.

  • Yet another approach would be merge the PgUp/PgDn keys with the extra generic key by having just two keys and giving them agnostic legends (e.g. R3 Init, R4 Out; you can find a full list here). I'm personally fine with this approach, but I know that some people don't like it. If you don't want to experiment, doing what I said in the above two paragraphs is probably your best bet.

  • On a different note, the default numpad 5 key in Base looks to be a regular, non-scooped key. This is likely just a rendering error, but you may want to fix it either way.

  • It may be worth including R5 1u Ctrl, Alt, Fn keys in the Row 5 kit, for 1800/CP, HHKB and some other layouts that are likely to use a 7u bottom row (which is what the kit is targeting). In fact, I would say that these keys would be more useful than the two R5 macro column keys, but I guess those could be a personal inclusion or something.

  • Last and kind of least, you could consider moving the second 2.25u Shift to Extension, and the Alice B to Spacebars, in order to remove some not strictly necessary keys from Base. However, I would argue against this, as you can currently get correct Alice support with just the Base kit if you're okay with using Shifts as spacebars. (There's also the fact that putting B in Spacebars would be adding an extra color to that kit.)

Thanks for reading!

Thanks for taking your time to write this out Konstantin!

1-3: I decided to skip on those keys as I didn't deem them necessary for the kit. It was definitely based on my subjective opinion and personal preference to use the 65% column the way I currently have it kitted. I am not opposed to adding them but I definitely have a bit of hesitation being that we already submitted for quotes. If I swap them into the extension kit while removing the 2nd Ctrl key this should be unnecessary. Either way, I'll discuss it with my vendors. I'll look into changing the legend in the extension kit before GB if I don't substitute in the PgUp and PgDn keys.

4: Yes it is a rendering error. When I submitted for quotes I did signify that it would be scooped and I will also add that here to correctly represent the kit.

5: This is a great point but I don't imagine many people buying the r5 kit are using 1800 or HHKB. That is just an assumption on my part and there really is no way to tell who will be buying it. The goal of that kit is to get 7u r5 support on 60s, 65s, and TKLs. Bottom rows are completely subjective and there are always many options, so although it may not be optimal for 1800 people to use 4 1.5u keys, at least the physical compatibility is still there. I will most likely keep the kit in its current configuration as that is what I am personally happy with.

6: I intend on keeping B in base as well as the second 2.25u shift since you can have physical compatibility using the shift keys as you said. Also, I wanted to keep the spacebar kit just spacebars since it keeps it just one color as well as anyone else who might need CR spacebars isn't getting an extra key that they don't need. I'd say it works out for everyone this way.

Feel free to correct me on anything I may have said that was wrong. Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #196 on: Sun, 29 August 2021, 05:17:59 »
Would've loved a NorDeUK kit.

Offline konstantin

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #197 on: Sun, 29 August 2021, 07:41:49 »
Thanks for taking your time to write this out Konstantin!

1-3: I decided to skip on those keys as I didn't deem them necessary for the kit. It was definitely based on my subjective opinion and personal preference to use the 65% column the way I currently have it kitted. I am not opposed to adding them but I definitely have a bit of hesitation being that we already submitted for quotes. If I swap them into the extension kit while removing the 2nd Ctrl key this should be unnecessary. Either way, I'll discuss it with my vendors. I'll look into changing the legend in the extension kit before GB if I don't substitute in the PgUp and PgDn keys.

4: Yes it is a rendering error. When I submitted for quotes I did signify that it would be scooped and I will also add that here to correctly represent the kit.

5: This is a great point but I don't imagine many people buying the r5 kit are using 1800 or HHKB. That is just an assumption on my part and there really is no way to tell who will be buying it. The goal of that kit is to get 7u r5 support on 60s, 65s, and TKLs. Bottom rows are completely subjective and there are always many options, so although it may not be optimal for 1800 people to use 4 1.5u keys, at least the physical compatibility is still there. I will most likely keep the kit in its current configuration as that is what I am personally happy with.

6: I intend on keeping B in base as well as the second 2.25u shift since you can have physical compatibility using the shift keys as you said. Also, I wanted to keep the spacebar kit just spacebars since it keeps it just one color as well as anyone else who might need CR spacebars isn't getting an extra key that they don't need. I'd say it works out for everyone this way.

Feel free to correct me on anything I may have said that was wrong. Thanks!

Sounds reasonable on all counts!
I do think that swapping those keys into the Extension kit instead of the Ctrl is the best option at this point.
Re #5: Indeed, it's hard to know for sure, but I get your reasoning here.
Re #6: Good point about the CR spacebars being viable as a standalone kit, I didn't think about that.
Anyway, thanks for your consideration!

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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #198 on: Sun, 29 August 2021, 23:11:14 »
5: This is a great point but I don't imagine many people buying the r5 kit are using 1800 or HHKB. That is just an assumption on my part and there really is no way to tell who will be buying it. The goal of that kit is to get 7u r5 support on 60s, 65s, and TKLs. Bottom rows are completely subjective and there are always many options, so although it may not be optimal for 1800 people to use 4 1.5u keys, at least the physical compatibility is still there. I will most likely keep the kit in its current configuration as that is what I am personally happy with.

1800 i agree on, but i think HHKB is actually quite popular, but those people are covered by just using arrow keys like most ppl do with OG doubleshots

on the whole, i think it's not that big a deal and that you're largely correct
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Re: [IC] GMK Grey on Black // Vendors, Kits, Updates!
« Reply #199 on: Thu, 30 September 2021, 06:38:27 »
I may just have skipped the text, but has a date been decided for when this will run?