Author Topic: [Interest Check] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifiers (Read 58421 times)

7bit · « **Reply #150 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 12:50:26 »

Quote from: Atenacius;439244

I lost track, this is going to be an expedited group buy and won't be included in Group Buy 4 right? If so, I'm just going to cancel my order over there, and probably buy a set or something... I've got invoice 9

There will be similar stuff in Round 4. Just have to do the SVG graphics ...

Quote from: hashbaz;439809

I've heard others say that they got their color samples for free. You could just email Melissa. Or I can, if you'd prefer, and have her send it to you.

I doubt this!

I had to pay $35 as everybody.

hashbaz · « **Reply #151 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 12:54:43 »

Ah well. I guess I heard wrong.

hashbaz · « **Reply #152 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 13:30:22 »

Quote from: hashbaz;439614

Yeah I'll ask Melissa about combining the common keys in the two sets. I described to her what I wanted to do, and this is what she came back with. I assume that means it's the cheapest way to do it, but maybe not?

I asked Melissa about treating the common portion of the two sets (2 Ctrl, 2 Alt, 2 Win, 1 right Shift) as a single set, and ordering the 1.25x and 2.25x left Shifts as single keys. She came back with rejiggered prices that added up to essentially the same totals (one or two pennies cheaper on the ANSI side, and 60 cents or so more expensive on the ISO side).

So, if the combined ISO + ANSI orders put us in a good bracket, we can take advantage of that to get a shared volume discount. This is really good news for the ISO guys.

Grond · « **Reply #153 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 13:41:36 »

Very good, thanks for asking Melissa!

Ascaii · « **Reply #154 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 14:10:44 »

Im in for 1 set of ISO RGB and one red esc.

DanGWanG · « **Reply #155 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 14:20:23 »

Quote from: hashbaz

Please indicate whether you're interested in just Esc, just RGB, or Esc+RGB; a rough guesstimate of how many you might want to order (assuming a decent price); and what country you live in.

Interested in Esc+RGB:
1x ESC
1x RGB

Located in USA.

Mysteric · « **Reply #156 on:** Wed, 26 October 2011, 16:31:24 »

Quote from: hashbaz;439855

I asked Melissa about treating the common portion of the two sets (2 Ctrl, 2 Alt, 2 Win, 1 right Shift) as a single set, and ordering the 1.25x and 2.25x left Shifts as single keys. She came back with rejiggered prices that added up to essentially the same totals (one or two pennies cheaper on the ANSI side, and 60 cents or so more expensive on the ISO side).

So, if the combined ISO + ANSI orders put us in a good bracket, we can take advantage of that to get a shared volume discount. This is really good news for the ISO guys.

Great news! Means it could be easier on the wallet all around and us UK folk get our ISO shifts

hashbaz · « **Reply #157 on:** Thu, 27 October 2011, 00:27:45 »

And on the fifth day, the Buy added but 2 REDESC and 4 RGBY.

Kick · « **Reply #158 on:** Thu, 27 October 2011, 04:23:08 »

Interested in normal RGB modifiers

bavman · « **Reply #159 on:** Thu, 27 October 2011, 11:26:48 »

Interested in regular RGB set

hashbaz · « **Reply #160 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 00:29:26 »

Day six, added two RGB sets. We seem to be petering down to a trickle.

dorkvader · « **Reply #161 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 02:21:07 »

Interested in 1-2 Escape keys
Interested in 0-1 RGB(Y) kits depending on a number of factors (I'll make a decision either way when crunch time arrives.)

tsangan · « **Reply #162 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 13:41:18 »

hashbaz: What are we at interest number wise with the RGBY kit and the Esc key?

7bit · « **Reply #163 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 13:42:25 »

Quote from: hashbaz;440902

Day six, added two RGB sets. We seem to be petering down to a trickle.

Welcome to the club!

hashbaz · « **Reply #164 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 13:56:53 »

Quote from: tsangan;441232

hashbaz: What are we at interest number wise with the RGBY kit and the Esc key?

Between 65 and 80 REDESC, and 30-ish RGBY.

Leftoverrice · « **Reply #165 on:** Fri, 28 October 2011, 15:37:20 »

In for 2 ESC and RGBY set. USA

hashbaz · « **Reply #166 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 03:09:55 »

Day 7, just a couple of each added.

slueth · « **Reply #167 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 03:16:05 »

2 red esc
2 rgby

hashbaz · « **Reply #168 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 03:17:20 »

Okay so the interest thread seems to have run its course. Seems very likely we will get more than 75 Escapes, putting us into the $1.76 per key bracket. This is awesome.

On the other hand, based on what people have posted here we will just barely make the 25 set cutoff for the RGBY sets. That puts us at around $19.38 for the ANSI sets and $15.74 for the ISO sets (the ISOs are cheaper because the 1.25x left Shift can shares some kind of discount with Ctrl/Alt/Win). And there's still shipping and SP's setup fees to factor in.

The setup cost is $45 for each of the two left Shift variants. Distributing this among those interested in each so far yields:
$45 / 19 ANSI orderers = $2.37
$45 / 8 ISO orderers = $5.63

That leaves us at $21.75 for an ANSI set and $21.37 for an ISO set. I haven't looked into shipping in detail yet, but I imagine it will be similar to other buys. Something like $5 inside the US and $6-$15 elsewhere, depending on shipping method.

How does everyone feel about this? Personally, it's more than I was hoping to pay for the RGBY set. We have a few options:

A) Drop the yellow Win key (I'm not sure what effect this will have on price)
B) Drop the RGBY set altogether and just do REDESC
C) Drop the RGBY set if we don't hit 50 in the actual order thread
D) Stay the course. $22+shipping is fine!
E) None of the above

Discuss.

Grond · « **Reply #169 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 03:39:35 »

D. 22$+shipping may not be cheap but I don't find it crazy expensive either. Also, more people may jump on the GB when a deadline is set, making setup fees cheaper.

Quarzac · « **Reply #170 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 11:34:14 »

Quote from: hashbaz;441674

C) Drop the RGBY set if we don't hit 50 in the actual order thread

At the 50 price, I would be interested in one. At the current price, I'm not. I don't even have a befitting cherry board to put these on anymore, I just feel like I should have them for when I get one.

tsangan · « **Reply #171 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 11:39:05 »

Quote from: Quarzac;441804

At the 50 price, I would be interested in one. At the current price, I'm not. I don't even have a befitting cherry board to put these on anymore, I just feel like I should have them for when I get one.

By all means you're not forced to order at the current price point but why are you voting to drop it? That makes no sense for the rest of the people that are okay with the price.

dorkvader · « **Reply #172 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 13:24:35 »

Quote from: hashbaz;441674

A) Drop the yellow Win key (I'm not sure what effect this will have on price)
B) Drop the RGBY set altogether and just do REDESC
C) Drop the RGBY set if we don't hit 50 in the actual order thread
D) Stay the course. $22+shipping is fine!
E) None of the above

Discuss.

I'm still interested in 2 red ESC

I'm interested in 1 RGBY set (still contingent on final design. More specifically, if it's super ugly, I'll be out, but I'd be pretty happy with whatever.)
but I'm not that interested in 1 RGB set.

So I'm all for option "D". Looks like a good deal to me.

Ascaii · « **Reply #173 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 14:21:09 »

honestly I can deal with the 22+shipping for the iso, I want it.

hashbaz · « **Reply #174 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 14:39:25 »

Another thing we need to finalize before I can post the order thread is what legend we want on the yellow Win keys. As buymaster I'm going to veto the "Cherry star" from the DT buy, simply because I really don't like it. Personally I would be fine with the Windows logo, but I know some of you don't like that. There's also the diamond symbol from other group buys. (Anyone have a link?)

Nominate what you'd like to see, and I'll put up a poll.

Grond · « **Reply #175 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 14:48:48 »

I assume that the cherry logo has also been discarded. I thus vote for the diamond or other standard SP symbols. This should also make the kit cheaper, since those are text symbols that don't require a costum svg.
You can see the diamond in this ripster-tastic pic:
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If you want windows keys I'll sell you the ones from my moogle kit when it ships!

hashbaz · « **Reply #176 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 17:00:09 »

Thanks Grond, that's the diamond I was thinking of.

demik · « **Reply #177 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 17:14:50 »

Yellow key should be black wu tang W.

hashbaz · « **Reply #178 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 17:54:17 »

There's also the matter of choosing a blue for the Alts and a yellow for the Wins. I really like the colors of sixty's Rebel kit from the DT group buy:

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My only concern is that the white legends look like they might be hard to see on the yellow. Anyone know the color codes for these keys?

In the meantime, this is the best image I could find of SP's color samples:

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The blue from aggiejy's RGB buy is BFN. Based on the above image, my picks are BO, BFP, BFK, or BOH. It's hard to judge color subtlety from a snapshot, but I think I like BFK best. Well, maybe BOH.

aggiejy's red and green look fantastic IMO, and I think they might match the Rebel kit:

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edit: I'm guessing the Rebel kit yellow is YBP? The others seem pretty bland.

demik · « **Reply #179 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 17:56:39 »

i agree with BFK. the green and red in aggiejy's is fantastic.

tsangan · « **Reply #180 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 18:02:51 »

BFK looks pretty good, but if we could find out what the Rebel RGBY colour code was that would be great.

Addional pics for you hashbaz:

hashbaz · « **Reply #181 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 18:41:53 »

Revamped the OP.

N8N · « **Reply #182 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 18:59:12 »

I'm still interested... probably only one ea. of RGBY-BASE and SHIFT-ANSI but would be in for a couple of REDESC - say three for counting purposes

now I'm regretting buying the SP red ESC keys :/

dorkvader · « **Reply #183 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 20:21:34 »

I vote for diamond or "super" on the Yellow key.

BFK or maybe BO look good for blue.

YBP looks a little yellow-orange for me, How about YY or YCH?

VV, VCS, VCJ looks good on the green. (I love VV best, but that's just me)

Just my input

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EDIT: on the colour picture.. I think I remember someone scanned them all in sometime, but I didn't find it. Anyone else know about that?

calavera · « **Reply #184 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 22:30:47 »

You know if there wasn't a sample pic with the color codes, nobody would understand what we're talking about.

VV sure looks good with the EKS but at the same time SER compliments FQW better than the FQF, but I'm open to any VVC or VCV as long as we have OAS as the main. lol

Back on topic: no love for the single alt key for noppoo choco minis?

reaper · « **Reply #185 on:** Sat, 29 October 2011, 22:41:37 »

I'm in for 1 RGB base and 1 shift ANSI.

dorkvader · « **Reply #186 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 00:14:07 »

Quote from: calavera;442056

VV sure looks good with the EKS but at the same time SER compliments FQW better than the FQF, but I'm open to any VVC or VCV as long as we have OAS as the main.

I'd say that VV does look good, but using WA of WFK won't work out for YBP/YY; I propose GX or similar, but we maybe can't do VV with that.

I guess the hardest part about RGBY is getting VV/VCS/VCM, RA/RR/RCQ, BFP/BFK/BO/BOH, and YY/YCH/YBP to all mach with a decent WA/GX/GB, etc.

Perhaps a neutral GAY is the best option here?

hashbaz · « **Reply #187 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 00:18:40 »

Quote from: calavera;442056

Back on topic: no love for the single alt key for noppoo choco minis?

As far as I can tell, only you and eyeshield21san have expressed interest in Choc-compatible keys. I'll send Melissa an email about it tomorrow night and see what she comes back with on Monday.

Looking at a picture of a Choc though, it seems like a lot of special keys ... does anyone know the relevant sizes for sure? Control and left Alt look like 1.5x, and right Shift maybe 1.75x? Plus a 1x left Win and 1x right Alt. All these would be new legends and subject to the $35-$45 setup fees.

My suggestion is to start up a sub-interest thread to rally Choc lovers. If there's demand, I'm happy to accommodate.

hashbaz · « **Reply #188 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 00:24:04 »

Quote from: dorkvader;442086

Perhaps a neutral GAY is the best option here?

I'd like to keep the legends white to match white-on-black doubleshot sets, which is what I believe most of us will be using these with.

hashbaz · « **Reply #189 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 00:53:43 »

Day 8 draws to a close. Added 2 REDESC and 3 RGBY.

hashbaz · « **Reply #190 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 01:35:40 »

Just realized that I should probably post this at Deskthority since we have a solid ISO option.

Grond · « **Reply #191 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 02:49:00 »

I did post this at DT already, the thread didn't raise much interest though. As for the colors, I'm more into the Rebel RGBY ones, especially for the blue and yellow. I PMd sixty to enquiry about the color codes, but he hasn't replied yet. Legends should be white, I hope we all agree on this. And despite some pictures, I think white on yellow will also be well readable on the actual keys, specially if we do the diamond shape, which is bold enough.

EDIT: I could not find other pictures of the diamond key (search should really be implemented here at GH...) but those are the SP text symbols, straight from Round 4 wiki. Diamond is probably the best, but triangle is not bad as well.
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NumberJ · « **Reply #192 on:** Sun, 30 October 2011, 22:36:31 »

re-interested in:

2x - REDESC
1x - RGBY-BASE
1x - SHIFT-ANSI

Located in the US.

edit: changed 1 red escape key to 2

Grond · « **Reply #193 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 12:45:02 »

Maybe it's time to set a deadline, that should revamp the interest in this MO.

tsangan · « **Reply #194 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 12:47:11 »

Well I'm down with any letter being on the window key so take your pick OP, you can't satisfy everyone

hashbaz · « **Reply #195 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 12:47:19 »

Yeah, I am working on a separate order thread now and waiting for some questions to be sorted out with the custom legends. Grond, any word back from sixty re the Rebel colors?

Grond · « **Reply #196 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 12:56:51 »

Not at all! I'll send him another PM.

HoboBob · « **Reply #197 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 20:59:19 »

Updated my interested list since I won't go for RGBY anymore:

5x REDESC

no more RGBY set for me

hashbaz · « **Reply #198 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 22:37:04 »

cycloverid is starting work on the Escape SVG. He's also going to rescale the moogle legends to better match authentic Cherry caps (this will not require new legend fees).

As soon as we have the SVGs in hand and Melissa gives them the thumbs up, I'll open the order thread and we'll get this thing underway.

hashbaz · « **Reply #199 on:** Mon, 31 October 2011, 23:02:53 »

Oh, and if anyone has access to an authentic Cherry red Escape (or high-resolution photos of one), cycloverid is looking for reference material. I'll be PMing ripster and reaper about it.

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Author Topic: [Interest Check] Faux Cherry Red ESC + RGBY modifiers (Read 58421 times)