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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1000 on: Wed, 25 May 2016, 23:15:46 »
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.
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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1001 on: Wed, 25 May 2016, 23:26:56 »
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.
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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1002 on: Wed, 25 May 2016, 23:49:49 »
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.
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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

i thought zeal abandoned the project because gateron said it was not possible... i dont remember the exact explanation, but i think it had to do with the type of plastic they used for clear switch housings would not work for stabilizers or something

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1003 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 06:34:08 »
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.
Show Image

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

Thanks for the link.  Gonna try to order some.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1004 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 09:12:57 »
Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.
Show Image

Show Image


Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

Thanks for the link.  Gonna try to order some.

Sure. I bought some to check them out too. Also ordered some gold-plated slabs. https://world.taobao.com/item/523044562115.htm

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1005 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 12:47:45 »
Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.
ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1006 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:31:34 »

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.


Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1007 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:42:13 »
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1008 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:43:25 »
I don't recall seeing any mention of the type of resistor to use if in-key leds were to be used.  Are they through-hole or surface mount?  I'm guessing the latter.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1009 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:48:17 »

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.


I don't recall seeing any mention of the type of resistor to use if in-key leds were to be used.  Are they through-hole or surface mount?  I'm guessing the latter.


The PCB looks like surface mount only to me.
Surface mount looks a lot cleaner anyway tho! =)

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1010 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:49:17 »
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1011 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:50:02 »

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.


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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1012 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 13:54:46 »


Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1013 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:02:25 »


Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

I will.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1014 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:06:43 »
Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

Wow.  I am constantly impressed by your diligence and perseverance.  Bravo.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1015 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:09:18 »

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1016 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:18:24 »



Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.
Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

I will.

Your the best zefyr! <3
Can't thank you enough brother-brother.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1017 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:21:47 »
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

VE.A needs plate. it's by design.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1018 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 14:28:42 »
Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

VE.A needs plate. it's by design.

Interesting.  Probably will use steel and black switch though :)

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1019 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 15:45:49 »

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.


Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

I don't want to put words into Zefyr's mouth, but it read to me like he's still trying to get it done in time for the Massdrop.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1020 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 17:19:11 »
If anyone is willing to let me hop onto their order please pm me!

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1021 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 20:00:04 »

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.


Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

I don't want to put words into Zefyr's mouth, but it read to me like he's still trying to get it done in time for the Massdrop.

ya sounds like hes trying to get the two layouts into the massdrop buy. Still holding off because I do plan on buying an extra PCB just waiting to hear if I should it purchase the extra pcb through massdrop or if zefyr is selling it separately. 

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1022 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 22:34:19 »
OP updated

Video review added
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1023 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 22:52:56 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1024 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 22:57:43 »
is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1025 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:24:52 »
is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

Darkgray is on Massdrop description.
Bare steel plate is pretty general, it's glare, silver, steel plate :)

You can see difference on oddforge website
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly


Photo on assembly guide is Darkgray.
Thanks.
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1026 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:36:45 »
is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

Darkgray is on Massdrop description.
Bare steel plate is pretty general, it's glare, silver, steel plate :)

You can see difference on oddforge website
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly


Photo on assembly guide is Darkgray.
Thanks.

thanks! that looks beautiful

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1027 on: Thu, 26 May 2016, 23:39:38 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit :)
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1028 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 00:09:25 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit :)
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)

Can I get a time machine?  I want my kit today -.-;;; thanks so much for designing this!!

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1029 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 07:55:51 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit :)
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)

I couldn't let that one go, and had to respond.  I'm stupid that way, but it was just really unfair.

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« Reply #1030 on: Fri, 27 May 2016, 12:41:15 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Call me single-minded, but my only concern was if he got to keep it for free. And by free, I mean just from doing a review on it.

Say it isn't so. :P

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1031 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 06:03:28 »
Finally got around to ordering. 

Zefyr - you've done a fantastic job!
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« Reply #1032 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 07:39:43 »
Thanks for the constant updates, Zefyr! I'm sure it'll be an amazing board with all the care you're putting in. And I just have some questions on the ALPS plate that you're planning. Can it allow for MX stabilzers in conjuction with ALPS switches? I'm planning on using ALPS to MX  adapters so having either Costar or Cherry MX stabilzers would be a great combo


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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1033 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 11:21:22 »
Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  :))

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Call me single-minded, but my only concern was if he got to keep it for free. And by free, I mean just from doing a review on it.

Say it isn't so. :P

Pretty sure that's the Massdrop production sample.  They sent it out last week so it could be reviewed.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1034 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 18:36:45 »
I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else is interested in putting one of the more recent popular cap sets on this once it arrives.

The left space key is 2u, the right space key is 2.75u according to the key layout posted by MassDrop. PMK has 2u and 2.75u blanks in stock.

GKK is the light color grey that matches the alphas on Granite and Quartz. GEC is the dark colored grey that matches the space bar of Quartz. Both are currently in stock in the needed sizes. GDE is the dark color on Granite, but it's only in stock on one of the two blanks (Don't recall which).

I really wanted the blue from Quartz (BFV) but the didn't have it in stock. Sad face.

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« Reply #1035 on: Sat, 28 May 2016, 22:48:24 »
I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else is interested in putting one of the more recent popular cap sets on this once it arrives.

The left space key is 2u, the right space key is 2.75u according to the key layout posted by MassDrop. PMK has 2u and 2.75u blanks in stock.

GKK is the light color grey that matches the alphas on Granite and Quartz. GEC is the dark colored grey that matches the space bar of Quartz. Both are currently in stock in the needed sizes. GDE is the dark color on Granite, but it's only in stock on one of the two blanks (Don't recall which).

I really wanted the blue from Quartz (BFV) but the didn't have it in stock. Sad face.

Thank you. Too bad PMK do no stock 2.75u SA blanks, unless I missed it. Been thinking on what keycaps to use, hope future keycaps set add those spacebars into kits.

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« Reply #1036 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 00:27:21 »
More importantly, it looks like all of the row 3 blanks are out of stock. I'm hoping there will be some after PuLSE ships. Might be wishful thinking.

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1037 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 09:32:04 »
Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey :)

« Last Edit: Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:13:45 by zefyr »
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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1038 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:11:56 »
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

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« Reply #1039 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:13:04 »
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.
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« Reply #1040 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:15:33 »

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

Amazing!
Youre da man zefyr! :D

Thx so much for everything you did to make this happen in time!

Offline alienman82

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1041 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 10:51:31 »
Very nice silver

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1042 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 11:50:00 »
Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey :)

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Offline Floody

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1043 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 12:02:39 »
I thought that whole thing was white for a second

Offline Vypr

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1044 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 12:05:17 »
Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey :)

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This is amazing, thank you for all your hard work zefyr  :thumb:
current keyboard: VE.A (home) WhiteFox TrueFox (home)  MD1 Infinity (Home)  Infinity Ergodox (work)
future keyboards:

Offline soilheart

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1045 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 12:40:31 »
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?
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Offline zefyr

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1046 on: Sun, 29 May 2016, 12:48:20 »
Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?

Of course, UNIVERSAL for EVERY supported layouts.
ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.

Vergo type.T / alpetit / alpetit II / VE.A with Vergo type.T-II

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1047 on: Mon, 30 May 2016, 03:52:31 »
Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1048 on: Mon, 30 May 2016, 04:51:01 »
Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

3-Locks LED resistors will be pre-soldered. but LED itself will no be included.
18 RGB LEDs will be pre-soldered. you don't have to do anything for RGB LEDs it's all-set.
And for in-switch resistors.
Our plan was no-resistors for in-switch LEDs.
It's because somebody might want to customize several sorts of LEDs and resistors.
Then we checked about it with some friends and find out almost everyone prefer pre-soldered resistors than customizing.
So, we already checking stability for that.
Now, our testing sample uses 910 ohm resistors for every LEDs, with red LED(which consume high power).
If this is stable enough, we will check cost for in-switch LED pre-soldering. If cost matches our price goal resistors will be pre-soldered also.
ZeFyr "Vermillion" J.

Vergo type.T / alpetit / alpetit II / VE.A with Vergo type.T-II

Offline krisst

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Re: [IC] VE.A
« Reply #1049 on: Mon, 30 May 2016, 05:35:36 »
Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

3-Locks LED resistors will be pre-soldered. but LED itself will no be included.
18 RGB LEDs will be pre-soldered. you don't have to do anything for RGB LEDs it's all-set.
And for in-switch resistors.
Our plan was no-resistors for in-switch LEDs.
It's because somebody might want to customize several sorts of LEDs and resistors.
Then we checked about it with some friends and find out almost everyone prefer pre-soldered resistors than customizing.
So, we already checking stability for that.
Now, our testing sample uses 910 ohm resistors for every LEDs, with red LED(which consume high power).
If this is stable enough, we will check cost for in-switch LED pre-soldering. If cost matches our price goal resistors will be pre-soldered also.

Okay. Thank you so much for the update.

Please update us if there are any additional info or changes in the future. Thank you! :D