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Title: [IC] DCS 9009 (GB complete)
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:50:54
DCS 9009

GB link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=114600.0
GB complete

Cannonkeys target prices are as follows:

Base, 200MOQ, $120
Alps, 75MOQ, $115
Extensions, 100MOQ, $35
Row 5, 50MOQ, $22
Relegendable, 50MOQ, $25

Regional vendors will provide pricing closer to the GB dates due to current exchange rates jumping around.

IC feedback form (https://forms.gle/J2NMiaNTJD5S2V7L6)
The focus of this specific IC is on kitting. I'd like to get feedback on this now, so I can make several changes. I am waiting for SP to come back to me specifically with certain icon samples.


You know what 9009 is, and I wanted a basic, boring beige DCS set. I've been lazy since October, but now I want to push ahead. There's the inspiration. Red alert's color scheme, nor sleeper, were for me. This set uses Signature Plastics' classic WYSE fontface, making for once damn clean look :nut: wait this isn't discord...


WHY???
DCS does have much thinner plastic, and whilst this is (incorrectly) believed to be a detriment to quality caps, I have yet to find people who say they hate how it feels and sounds. Think of it as a more 'chirpy' cap, which simultaneously allows you to really feel the switch more. Simple physics, thin cap = less force dampening :D


Colors
Using stock SP colors, and compared to GMK

(https://imgur.com/IIFLP5z.jpg)

Expect a 5-10 USD Difference when vendors confirm pricing. My targets are relatively aggressive, considering MOQ breakdown

Base - $120 Target
(https://imgur.com/ZyNTx80.jpg)


Extensions (basic 40s and spaces) - $35 Target
Spacebars under 4.5u are always concave. Nothing I can do about that, so imagine blank shift keys just alpha colored.
(https://imgur.com/hazGRz9.jpg)


Row 5 replacement kit - $25 Target
SP calls it R5. It makes more sense to call it R0 but eh, whatever.
(https://imgur.com/fD5cocs.jpg)

For clarity, this is how R5 SP is profiled:
(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/824350616083103774/824634990733951016/unknown.png)


Relegendables (per row, 1-4) - $25 Target
(https://imgur.com/tD5MqOo.jpg)


Alps kit - $110 Target

A message direct from SP:

Alps doubleshot keys are cosmetically difficult to mold. The stem doesn’t have much plastic to hang onto when we mold a first shot under the key, so your customers should be aware that too much removal of the key from the switch could result in the switch breaking (we can’t offer replacements for these).


(https://imgur.com/OOVLkRI.jpg)


Deskmats
More
No.
If you want a themed mat, go ask Omnitype to make more. There are 1000s of deskmat designs, go use one of them.

Render samples

Render samples are just to give you an idea of how it looks. Colors have been matched as accurately as possible

Seen here on the Safa 5.88

(https://imgur.com/wcHXbHq.jpg)

(https://imgur.com/1Y8hjC3.jpg)


Vendors & Pricing
All prices are my targets based on specific MOQs and feedback from certain vendors.
Group buy set to go live early September!!

US - Cannonkeys
EU - MyKeyboard.eu
UK - Prototypist
Oceania - Daily Clack
SEAS - Hex Keyboard
India - Rectangles.store
Canada - Apexkeyboards


For Gulf states, I recommend buying from Hex. I will accommodate shipping for the region specifically unless you choose to use SNS.


Updates
2021-04-14: Mod pipe added. Since everyone seems upset about this :D
2021-05-18: Received new quotes for updated kitting
2021-05-18: Colors confirmed
2021-08-01: Renders complete
2021-08-04: Vendors confirmed, GB dates speculated, waiting final confirmation


Credits

Fooblitzky - a massive shoutout to this guy for making things open source. I had trouble modelling things myself, without this renders would be 110% worse.

Janglad - for being a good lad
Renderman Bachoo - amazing job helping me visualize this
Tom - for the advice with ISO kitting
Uncle - your red accented Insert is coming :D


Discord
http://discord.baul.xyz/ (http://discord.baul.xyz/)
Its my house, dont smash the doors in!

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Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Pontus on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:51:20
Yes! Finally more DCS!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:52:34
You were too quick for me, my browser didn't refresh. Uh, reserved but 2nd comment i guess

16/6/2021: After so much back and forth with certain people, and really my own preferences, I'm moving this back to Text+icon. It also makes more sense as some parts of this IC are a direct reference to G80 9009 HAU.

18/7/2021: Having trouble with certain vendors - working to resolve. Good news, rendering is working again, so hopefully soon ill be able to give updates. Something Something Alps

02/8/2021: Final Renders complete, final quotes being received from SP. GB target date set to early September. - Will bump thread with confirmed prices.

09/8/2021: GB target September 6th -> October 3rd. Awaiting Upas updates  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: kk73715 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:53:53
I love the deskmat, really brings out the blue from Gater Ron's hat
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: superdoedoe on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:54:30
 :cool:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: whirlwind on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:54:46
Perfection
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Badmutha on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:57:07
Glad to see more DCS sets being made. Nice work on the kitting too
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: 10peaches on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:25
Alps please?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: stimuz on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:50
 :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Bunn3y on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:59:42
Just go to GB already, let me buy this!!!

Seriously though, this is so nice. GLWIC  :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:01:10
Quote from: 10peaches on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:25
Alps please?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Hiney and I had a nice conversation about this. We agreed I will run MX, in the future, he will run alps. No idea what he plans colorwise but ill happily share this stuff with him, should he want it. He has no timeline for it yet.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: lovidore on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:01:49
beige by baul is the blay

edit: form filled btw
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: swomi on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:02:07
Finally a beige dcs set  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Omarpixel9 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:04:29
Nippled F and J so good, excited for this  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: RA Can on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:05:35
It's been a while since I wanted to try DCS but I couldn't find sets that I like, this is perfect.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: MK47 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:06:02
Nice Baul. Form filled.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: huey on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:21:28
blessed
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: gilbert on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:29:26
good job baul!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: guypigeotto on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:33:53
beige baybeeeeeeee
DCS is great, this is good too (wish it wasn't icon mods but whatever)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: darkcl on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:34:25
 :thumb: always want to try DCS, glwic
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: ephemeral25 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:54:41
Finally a nice and simple DCS kit. I am in.

Please consider R3 pipe for the only superior ISO layout with full left shift
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: of_sam on Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:45:17
Wonderful IC Paul. Best of luck with everything. I am in.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Juan. on Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:47:08
i like beige keycap. mmmmmm
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: P103 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:48:55
Great to see relegendables too, nice.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Jampot_298 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:30:46
Nice. Great work Paul, keep it up! :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Poesjuh on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:17:53
Please include mod colored 1.5u pipe :'(
Literally the one key missing for an imo perfect base kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: kyuut on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:49:14
great job paul :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: justinhigley on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:53:46
Is this ABS or PBT? Guessing ABS since you referenced F13 being made but I wanted to double check.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

(https://i.imgur.com/uZCwDEb.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Toscoe on Sun, 28 March 2021, 11:00:23
Love the font, the philosophy, the deskmats rock as well  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: yui_ on Sun, 28 March 2021, 12:18:09
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uZCwDEb.jpg)

Thanks for articulating it better than I could.

GLWIC Paul! With these changes in legends I would be very interested.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:11:38
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uZCwDEb.jpg)


This kind of feedback is exactly why I IC'd rather than spend time on legends that may or may not be sufficient for those true fans of DCS WYSE style caps. I'm waiting for SP to come back to me with physical samples before making changes. As for the shifts, this must be an error in the CAD on my part - duly noted, and thank you for pointing that out. CapsLock, I must have a very strange version. I'll see if I can get a super high res version of it and work some magic (rendering with WYSE sucked, any little helps!)... wait thats a tesco ad...
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:40:23
Quote from: jorj_mk on Sun, 28 March 2021, 12:18:09
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

Show Image
(https://i.imgur.com/uZCwDEb.jpg)

Thanks for articulating it better than I could.

GLWIC Paul! With these changes in legends I would be very interested.

Check the last comment. This is actually feedback i wanted, sometimes I fkn love it when yall are like this <3
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Photekq on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:48:34
Quote from: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:40:23
Check the last comment. This is actually feedback i wanted, sometimes I fkn love it when yall are like this <3
If you end up going with those legends from the Rebel Red Alert/OTD Red Alert set please give credit to sixty from deskthority and Uranium from OTD. Those guys spent countless hours getting the right legend selection with SP.

Also, for full reference, that set came with two options for shift/tab legends. Seen here:

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8564/16579780797_086c72ffe2_h.jpg)

I'm personally a fan of the smaller, thicker shifts and the larger tab, demonstrated here:

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7655/16785944302_105496d922_h.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: GarrettSucks on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:16:25
Who's Dixie?
Title: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: finalarcadia on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:54:20
R0 in base. Thick shift. Not sure about that big tab. In for all kits. Also stepped Ctrl pls?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: fruitykeeb on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:57:53
Wow! This looks really crisp!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:03:09
Quote from: GarrettSucks on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:16:25
Who's Dixie?

I'll still call you by discord name, it's old habbits. Updated to the new name :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:08:04
Quote from: finalarcadia on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:54:20
R0 in base. Thick shift. Not sure about that big tab. In for all kits. Also stepped Ctrl pls?

A thick shift will come. The current tab is smaller than that on the ones found on OTD red alert. Again, once I get samples from SP, I can reconfirm and remodel where required.

Stepped control? Put it in the form so I can track, but I definitely, I'm down for that! Thank's for the support too! <3
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Altephor on Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:16:04
I said this in the IC form but might as well say it here to see what others might think.

I would like for there to be a second numpad 5 barred variant for anyone who prefers barred over nipple. Just seems odd to me having bar and nip F + J but not 5.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Bachoo on Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:16:57
Thank you for creating this you beautiful man.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: kumori on Mon, 29 March 2021, 14:05:10
looks simple and nice, glad you got perms from janglad;
glwic!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Extra-Cwispy on Wed, 31 March 2021, 00:29:07
Interested in getting my hands on a DCS set, and ya gotta love 9009! GLWIC! :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: hottrout on Wed, 31 March 2021, 03:44:24
I'd better call baul.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 31 March 2021, 04:47:28
SP needs some time to come back to me as I asked them for a lot of icon samples (I want to see the options I have before I make changes that I personally want). This won't be a rushed project.

Mod pipe will be added - yall are god damn thirsty for it!  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: elmo on Wed, 31 March 2021, 10:32:37
I love you for this baul
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: zoo on Thu, 22 April 2021, 13:44:10
interest checked o.O
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: HungerMechanic on Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:33:10
When do you release more renders, put one up on the Frog TKL!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: tex_live_utility on Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:52:20
Looks great. Good old beige!

That said, I'm really curious how much more expensive this would be if it were PBT. PBT DCS is a lot nicer to me than ABS DCS.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 26 May 2021, 14:46:33
Want
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Nuclear Nachos on Wed, 26 May 2021, 14:54:08
very cool
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: HappyB0T on Wed, 26 May 2021, 16:19:10
Super interested! Also love the honesty on the relegendables - made me lol : D!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Puddsy on Wed, 26 May 2021, 17:46:51
to my eye RCU is way off but otherwise i will never not buy a DCS set these days
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Avijit on Wed, 26 May 2021, 20:56:17
What about some dcs pbt
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: soloplayer on Thu, 27 May 2021, 06:44:02
if only SP started produce thick DCS  :-[
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: hali on Thu, 27 May 2021, 07:54:37
been having my eye on this for a while. can we get a red alert-esque icon only purse, x box backspace, icon only enter, and front printed sys rq and break?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mikhail on Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:03:37
Center stem stepped capslock here?
Why not DCS WYSE? Same classic white/gray scheme with navy font and yellow accent. If we love DCS we don’t need a halfsteps.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: treeleaf64 on Mon, 31 May 2021, 11:45:24
Quote from: soloplayer on Thu, 27 May 2021, 06:44:02
if only SP started produce thick DCS  :-[

I dont mind having the thin DCS I've typed on it before and it lets you feel the switch more. It shows you the difference between the switches more.
I quite like the sound of DCS on some keyboards too!

That was the most coherent thing the treeleaf has said in a while
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Fe on Mon, 31 May 2021, 12:38:18
nice baul
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:01:13
Quote from: tex_live_utility on Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:52:20
Looks great. Good old beige!

That said, I'm really curious how much more expensive this would be if it were PBT. PBT DCS is a lot nicer to me than ABS DCS.

The quotes for PBT for a base kit this large are insane - to the point that at the large MOQ breaks its more to manu than i would be selling as this in ABS. Future plans are for more DCS sets with smaller kits but ran in PBT, its the only feasible way.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:04:33
Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:03:37
Center stem stepped capslock here?
Why not DCS WYSE? Same classic white/gray scheme with navy font and yellow accent. If we love DCS we don’t need a halfsteps.

Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:05:12
Quote from: HungerMechanic on Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:33:10
When do you release more renders, put one up on the Frog TKL!

It'll be rendered on my own TKL soon  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:07:41
Quote from: hali on Thu, 27 May 2021, 07:54:37
been having my eye on this for a while. can we get a red alert-esque icon only purse, x box backspace, icon only enter, and front printed sys rq and break?

Those are all things being confirmed. With the renders coming soon, I'll have several options for people to vote on. I'm not a fan of the backspace, but it does have a charm to it! And yes to caps, I traced it to be able to render it. Just been busy.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:08:55
Quote from: HappyB0T on Wed, 26 May 2021, 16:19:10
Super interested! Also love the honesty on the relegendables - made me lol : D!

Better be honest than come up with some BS. When I get the sample set, I'll make models from scans of that. Keep it accurate for those who else want to use the models in the future too :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mikhail on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:15:13
Quote from: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:04:33
Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:03:37
Center stem stepped capslock here?
Why not DCS WYSE? Same classic white/gray scheme with navy font and yellow accent. If we love DCS we don’t need a halfsteps.

  • Confirming a few things such as the stem locations for the stepped caps with SP. This is still an early IC :D
  • I personally am not a fan of the WYSE grey colors. I wanted beige specifically, just following the traditional fontface. Unsure what you mean by halfsteps.

It would be cool to have usual stepped capslock and center stem stepped capslock both. Super cool for hotswap PCBs.
Yea, i realise that WYSE colors are really too gray! Cherry beige colors are more usual.

(https://i.imgur.com/keIN5Is.jpeg)

Downside view because tops are burned in peroxide.
I mean "not for hardcore WYSE fans", but actually DCS is very close to Topre and Space Invaders caps too.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:19:33

Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:03:37

It would be cool to have usual stepped capslock and center stem stepped capslock both. Super cool for hotswap PCBs.

Downside view because tops are burned in peroxide.
I mean "not for hardcore WYSE fans", but actually DCS is very close to Topre and Space Invaders caps too.

That's an awesome suggestion. Also, peroxide? Sir you're a madman and I love it  :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mikhail on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:26:10
Quote from: paulgali on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:19:33

Quote from: Mikhail on Thu, 27 May 2021, 18:03:37

It would be cool to have usual stepped capslock and center stem stepped capslock both. Super cool for hotswap PCBs.

Downside view because tops are burned in peroxide.
I mean "not for hardcore WYSE fans", but actually DCS is very close to Topre and Space Invaders caps too.

That's an awesome suggestion. Also, peroxide? Sir you're a madman and I love it  :D

DCS CC&G:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E2vVHAAXoAE6lAD?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)

I get the set of THICK DCS from WYSE PCE ANSI and find that it have contact issue in heavy form
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=113089.0
And this caps have almost brown yellowing)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mikhail on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:32:17
Also maybe make mods with ANSI style with descriptions (Shift, Enter, Tab, Backspase)?
Or why ISO Enter have Enter lettering))
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: azzipa on Mon, 31 May 2021, 21:47:27
base kit already large, but is there any way to get R1 "=" key for numpad?
anyway, glwic  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mr_Spaceman on Sun, 06 June 2021, 12:02:53
Will definitely acquire. Thank you, baul.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 10 June 2021, 01:55:41
Quote from: Mikhail on Mon, 31 May 2021, 14:32:17
Also maybe make mods with ANSI style with descriptions (Shift, Enter, Tab, Backspase)?
Or why ISO Enter have Enter lettering))

I mentioned in the old kitting, that everything would be moving to icon only (so no text on any of the mods). It was a mistake in the renders :(
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Zetina on Thu, 10 June 2021, 08:40:18
Simple, Nice and Clean
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Mikhail on Tue, 15 June 2021, 13:43:09
Success!
Chinese clone of this set is already sells))
(Actually cherry prof. with "wyse"/SA font)

https://aliexpress.ru/item/1005001841920222.html?srcSns=sns_Copy&spreadType=socialShare&bizType=ProductDetail&social_params=40071012254&aff_fcid=5535b2b71354462295225ee401f3cf7d-1623781849013-06623-_9JNTDZ&tt=MG&aff_fsk=_9JNTDZ&aff_platform=default&sk=_9JNTDZ&aff_trace_key=5535b2b71354462295225ee401f3cf7d-1623781849013-06623-_9JNTDZ&shareId=40071012254&businessType=ProductDetail&platform=AE&terminal_id=78d30c4bd08c49d5aacdd557ba91f0bc
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: pixelpusher on Tue, 15 June 2021, 14:04:40
any chance of using cherry font like DCS Sleeper used?  Really impressed with the work on that set.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 16 June 2021, 11:40:00
Quote from: pixelpusher on Tue, 15 June 2021, 14:04:40
any chance of using cherry font like DCS Sleeper used?  Really impressed with the work on that set.

I would, but gmk 9009 exists, so whats the point. I prefer how WYSE looks on DCS personally, and is why I am sticking to it.

Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: cdhoffmann on Wed, 16 June 2021, 11:45:45
Now that it's icon+text i am in. Thx!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: shutuphamish on Sat, 19 June 2021, 04:48:42
hype for this. ideally pbt would be best but i understand the proce concern. good luck with this and i hope to see it in gb soon!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sat, 19 June 2021, 09:32:34
Quote from: shutuphamish on Sat, 19 June 2021, 04:48:42
hype for this. ideally pbt would be best but i understand the proce concern. good luck with this and i hope to see it in gb soon!

Quote from: Avijit on Wed, 26 May 2021, 20:56:17
What about some dcs pbt

Not saying this should be done in PBT because that's the job of the Baul
But would Love to see more DCS pbt :) My favorite keycap plastic, my favorite profile. My favorite look too. Yay yay yay
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: HappyB0T on Wed, 07 July 2021, 20:54:36
Insert DCS 9009 hype here.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 07 July 2021, 21:06:29
Can I buy this yet
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: Distracto on Tue, 20 July 2021, 09:19:31
Take my Money!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 02:08:54
Finally some good news!

Kits are finalized! Vendors confirmed, with a target start date of September 6th.

The return of classics are here. Beige never lost.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Mdark205 on Wed, 04 August 2021, 02:17:01
Alps kit so good, definitely getting!
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 04 August 2021, 07:07:37
No Canada vendor?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 08:47:33
Quote from: neon_tom on Wed, 04 August 2021, 07:07:37
No Canada vendor?

Do you have any recommendations? I'm happy to arrange this if it is urgent but after hunting around I haven't had a lot of interest from Canada itself.

Sam (kuma) wanted to run this, and left the server a week later when I assume he thought there was no activity on the project. And to be honest, kuma is 110% a big nope.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: hali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 09:04:47
love it
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 09:08:41
Good news for Canadian chaps and chappettes? I'll sort you out with a vendor, and update the main post when finalized  :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: neon_tom on Wed, 04 August 2021, 15:25:12
Quote from: paulgali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 09:08:41
Good news for Canadian chaps and chappettes? I'll sort you out with a vendor, and update the main post when finalized  :D
Muchly appreciated. It’s always nice not to have to pay import charges on an order from the US.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Pyroo on Wed, 04 August 2021, 17:15:57
this looks very nice thank you baul
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Wed, 04 August 2021, 17:35:43
Apexkeyboards Confirmed! LETS GOOOOOOOO  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Wed, 04 August 2021, 20:10:17
This looks nice! Is there a R2 ESC key for 40% boards?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: HungerMechanic on Wed, 04 August 2021, 21:42:00
Now that we're bringing classic sets like 9009 and Honeywell into DCS, can we get some of the more exotic but restrained ABS sets like GMK Ocean Dolch, Skidolcha, Tai Hao Kingfisher, JTK Yolch, and maybe some of the crazier ABS ones like Nautilus Nightmares [gotta admit that one needs a do-over and would look good in DCS.]

I don't know if we'll ever see ePBT Slate again, but what about DCS Slate?

Anyway, this is probably the wrong place to ask.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 05 August 2021, 02:12:47
Quote from: HungerMechanic on Wed, 04 August 2021, 21:42:00
Now that we're bringing classic sets like 9009 and Honeywell into DCS, can we get some of the more exotic but restrained ABS sets like GMK Ocean Dolch, Skidolcha, Tai Hao Kingfisher, JTK Yolch, and maybe some of the crazier ABS ones like Nautilus Nightmares [gotta admit that one needs a do-over and would look good in DCS.]

I don't know if we'll ever see ePBT Slate again, but what about DCS Slate?

Anyway, this is probably the wrong place to ask.

Always feel free to ask. I have more DCS in the pipeline, but this time smaller base kits with more child kits. 9009 was kitted with 'big base' because, well, its beige, and a one size fits all (well most) was the best approach. However for almost every other instance, smaller kits are easier to wok with, and SPs pricing is significantly better off with smaller kits and higher MOQ.

In short, yes yes and yes!!! Jump into discord, throw some ideas there. I have plans for pbt as well, and colors are not as troublesome as one may think :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 05 August 2021, 02:15:39
Quote from: shutuphamish on Sat, 19 June 2021, 04:48:42
hype for this. ideally pbt would be best but i understand the proce concern. good luck with this and i hope to see it in gb soon!

I dont think i addressed this but, at the same MOQ, the cost alone would be close to $160, including vendor markups, and not including shipping, for the same base kit. PBT works with smaller bases and child kits. I wish i could but given DCS is not hugely popular already, ABS for this set at least was teh way to go. Plus, ABS DCS sounds insane. I'm unsure about pbt  ^-^
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: PixelPlays__ on Wed, 11 August 2021, 13:59:11
Following! Been needing a nice Alps kit :D
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: _IanOfEarth on Wed, 11 August 2021, 17:04:04
Excellent kitting! Like this a lot
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: elmo on Thu, 12 August 2021, 04:23:01
Alps kit yes!

But no numpad? :(
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: _rubik on Thu, 12 August 2021, 12:56:54
+1 on Alps (figured the more noise we make, the better our odds :))
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Thu, 12 August 2021, 16:35:38
Quote from: elmo on Thu, 12 August 2021, 04:23:01
Alps kit yes!

But no numpad? :(

Given the low expectation of ALPS kit sales, its at a significantly low MOQ compared to the regular mx base.

That being said, if the alps kit does well, I will try my best to get some in stock numpad kits that can be put onto preorder. That, in the end, is each vendor's choice to support, but its something I am willing to push.

And no, it wont be charged at a premium for it being in stock, if you have purchased an ALPS base. I'll always try to support where I can  :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: notquant on Fri, 13 August 2021, 06:15:13
LFG Paul this bangs! Thanks for the good Canada proxy. Looking forward to this.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Friendship on Fri, 13 August 2021, 09:36:23
Quote from: paulgali on Thu, 12 August 2021, 16:35:38
Quote from: elmo on Thu, 12 August 2021, 04:23:01
Alps kit yes!

But no numpad? :(

Given the low expectation of ALPS kit sales, its at a significantly low MOQ compared to the regular mx base.

That being said, if the alps kit does well, I will try my best to get some in stock numpad kits that can be put onto preorder. That, in the end, is each vendor's choice to support, but its something I am willing to push.

And no, it wont be charged at a premium for it being in stock, if you have purchased an ALPS base. I'll always try to support where I can  :p

ahhh two alps sets running now? this is awesome! and if I hop in on this, put my hat in the ring for the numpad :)
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Bub on Tue, 17 August 2021, 09:59:51
in for an alps kit GLWGB
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: notquant on Fri, 20 August 2021, 16:19:47
Nice job Paul, looking forward to seeing some releg renders  :p :p :p
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: paulgali on Sat, 28 August 2021, 09:12:05
Dates confirmed for September 15 - October 15th! LETS GOOOOO!

Cannonkeys target prices are as follows:

Base, 200MOQ, $120
Alps, 75MOQ, $115
Extensions, 100MOQ, $35
Row 5, 50MOQ, $22
Relegendable, 50MOQ, $25

Regional vendors will provide pricing closer to the GB dates
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Puddsy on Sat, 28 August 2021, 12:33:02
Quote from: paulgali on Sat, 28 August 2021, 09:12:05
Dates confirmed for September 15 - October 15th! LETS GOOOOO!

Cannonkeys target prices are as follows:

Base, 200MOQ, $120
Alps, 75MOQ, $115
Extensions, 100MOQ, $35
Row 5, 50MOQ, $22
Relegendable, 50MOQ, $25

Regional vendors will provide pricing closer to the GB dates

my wallet is ready
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, Target Price set, Vendors Confirmed, GB Early Sept)
Post by: Rob27shred on Sat, 28 August 2021, 13:09:11
Quote from: Puddsy on Sat, 28 August 2021, 12:33:02
Quote from: paulgali on Sat, 28 August 2021, 09:12:05
Dates confirmed for September 15 - October 15th! LETS GOOOOO!

Cannonkeys target prices are as follows:

Base, 200MOQ, $120
Alps, 75MOQ, $115
Extensions, 100MOQ, $35
Row 5, 50MOQ, $22
Relegendable, 50MOQ, $25

Regional vendors will provide pricing closer to the GB dates

my wallet is ready

Same
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, GB September 15th - Prices confirmed)
Post by: geonworks on Wed, 01 September 2021, 04:43:23
ne 10u spacebar avail???
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, GB September 15th - Prices confirmed)
Post by: dededecline on Thu, 09 September 2021, 11:16:29
It looks like there's 2.25u and 2.75u minibars in the extension kit, could 2u be added?
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, GB September 15th - Prices confirmed)
Post by: MikeTheTiger on Thu, 09 September 2021, 12:22:31
Quote from: dededecline on Thu, 09 September 2021, 11:16:29
It looks like there's 2.25u and 2.75u minibars in the extension kit, could 2u be added?
Also needs a r2 ESC.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, GB September 15th - Prices confirmed)
Post by: PeppyToad on Fri, 10 September 2021, 14:16:01
R2 Esc and 2u space (also for 2u-1.25u variant of Alice's left side) would indeed be nice to have, considering that the other 40s support keys are already in a child kit.
Title: Re: [IC] DCS 9009 (Kits final, GB September 15th - Prices confirmed)
Post by: Skelig on Fri, 10 September 2021, 19:31:45
Is the stem for the Alps ISO enter horizontally-oriented or vertically? Either way I'm in, but it would be handy to know if I'm going to have to modify my plate if I need to rotate that switch.