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Title: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Invezting on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:35:43

Nazaré 1-60 Wave 1 (W1)
(https://i.imgur.com/J6jqEkK.jpg)
IC Form (Now Closed)
Group Buy Thread (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=116235.0)

Introduction
Hello, my name is Brian and I am a long standing member of the community who has almost a decade of experience in engineering/CAD. I make this post here today to introduce my brand new company, Nazaré Engineering, alongside its very first project. The name of the company, Nazaré, takes after the Portuguese city home to the largest ocean waves on Earth. This name embodies Nazaré Engineering’s vision perfectly, as the company stands for a breathtakingly large wave of innovation and brilliant design. Through this company vision, I set out to design Nazaré Engineering’s first keyboard to look special, feel premium, and sound elegant. With these goals in mind and meticulous attention to detail, the Nazaré 1-60 was born.

(https://i.imgur.com/ZYJgL2G.jpg)

Naming Convention for Nazaré Keyboards
  • The first number (in this case, 1) signifies the design series of the specific form factor of the keyboard.
  • The second number (in this case, 60) denotes the form factor.
  • When applicable (as not every design, including this one, is guaranteed to rerun), group buy rounds will be numbered and referred to as recurring waves (W1, W2, W3...etc.).

(https://i.imgur.com/qsqHs3G.gif)

Design Approach
  • The top of the keyboard is designed to look special and captivate your attention, as the bottom right blocker badge provides a signature aesthetic never before seen on a 60% keyboard. The symmetrical bezels also allow for a clean top-view look that compliments the low front height of the keyboard. Even the carefully selected fillets and chamfers work together to showcase a soft, yet sharp and modern look.
  • The bottom of the keyboard is designed to portray the concept that the gravitational pull of the sun and moon causes ocean waves. This is why the keyboard bottom showcases a copper weight that represents the sun, a brass weight that represents the moon, and an ocean blue polycarbonate "weight" that represents Nazaré’s ocean waves.
  • I designed a brand new mounting style for this keyboard, which I have called the “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system. This new “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system is basically a hybrid of isolation gasket mount and o-ring gummy gasket mount. This mounting system consists of wrapping o-rings around every edge of the plate to dampen all contact between the plate and case. The left/right edges of the plate have 1 o-ring wrapped around them. The top/bottom edges of the plate have 3 o-rings wrapped around them. All 8 o-rings then rest inside of tunnels machined into both the top and bottom of the keyboard. These tunnels are meant to keep the plate in place and provide a little bit of o-ring compression. The depth of these tunnels also keeps the plate in a floating position where the plate doesn’t make any contact with the case. This system was designed with the intention of providing a consistent typing experience across the whole plate, as well as hopefully improving upon the already satisfying typing experience associated with o-ring gummy gasket mounted keyboards.

(https://i.imgur.com/jsVrZU2.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/h8ms26Y.jpg)

Specifications
  • 6063 Aluminum Case
  • Color Options: E-White Top w/ Anodized Black Bottom and Anodized Black Top w/ E-White Bottom
  • Bead-Blasted (Renders are Mirror Polished) Stainless Steel Bottom Right Blocker Badge
  • Default Anodized Black Aluminum Plate (of either ISO or ANSI layout)
  • Eight 50A Silicone O-Rings
  • Four Different Bottom Accent Weights:
  • Bead-Blasted (Renders are Mirror Polished) Stainless Steel Weight #1
  • Bead-Blasted Copper Weight #2
  • Ocean Blue Polycarbonate "Weight" #3
  • Bead-Blasted Brass Weight #4

(https://i.imgur.com/hxlfS1R.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/VBi56lL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/gvtRoEP.jpg)

Features
  • Bottom Right Blocker 60%
  • “Rail-Ring” Gasket Mount System
  • 6.9 Degree Typing Angle
  • Low Front Height (≈18.5mm)
  • Seamless Case Design
  • Centered USB-C Unified C3 Daughterboard (Designed by ai03 and friends)
  • Solder PCB - Compatible with QMK and VIA (Designed by Gondolindrim)
  • Supported Layouts (ANSI & ISO):
(https://i.imgur.com/ptS5e1w.jpg)

What comes in the box (excluding add-ons)?
  • Nazaré 1-60 Keyboard
  • Default Aluminum Plate (of either ISO or ANSI layout)
  • PCB, USB-C Daughterboard, and JST Cable
  • All Necessary O-Rings, Bumpons, and Screws
  • Hex Key
  • Custom Microfiber Cloth
  • Custom Carrying Case:

(https://i.imgur.com/NpKmos8.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0zhlsbK.jpg)

What add-ons will be available?
  • Extra Anodized Black Aluminum Plate Add-on (of either ISO or ANSI layout)
  • Extra PCB, USB-C Daughterboard, and JST Cable Add-on
  • Extra Forged Carbon Fiber Plate Add-on (of either ISO or ANSI layout)

Sale Info
  • Kit Price: 650 USD
  • Add-on Prices:
    Extra Anodized Black Aluminum Plate Add-on (of either ISO or ANSI layout): 35 USD
    Extra PCB, USB-C Daughterboard, and JST Cable Add-on: 65 USD
    Extra Forged Carbon Fiber Plate Add-on (of either ISO or ANSI layout): 45 USD
  • Vendors and GB Info (Unit Numbers TBD by Vendors):
    Ashkeebs (https://www.ashkeebs.com/) (CA) - Raffle on February 21st, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/xQYEn5tprR)
    Space (https://spaceholdings.net/) (US) - Raffle on February 19th, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/spacecables)
    RHESET (https://rheset.mx/) (MX) - Raffle on February 19th, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/44uYxqW2SD)
    MyKeyboard (https://mykeyboard.eu/) (EU) - Raffle on February 19th, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/2uXeq4w)
    KeebCats (https://keebcats.co.uk/) (UK) - FCFS on February 21st, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/qWPNjRpAx2)
    iLumkb (https://ilumkb.com/) (SEA) - Raffle on February 19th, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/52kkJ28)
    SwitchKeys (https://www.switchkeys.com.au/) (OCE) - FCFS on February 21st, 2022 (https://discord.com/invite/switchkeys)
  • Estimated Fulfillment Date: Q4 2022 - Q1 2023

Answers to Possible Questions
  • Why no tsangan bottom row?
    Sorry guys, I really wanted to support 7u, but I eventually decided to fix the bottom row to 6.25u for a number of different reasons.
    Reason #1) To make the bottom right blocker/badge look more square and less rectangular. I basically wanted the board to look more like a top right blocker board and less like a HHKB, as I feel like this would give the board its own signature look never-before-seen on a 60% keyboard.
    Reason #2) To make the aesthetic of the board more symmetrical in spite of the bottom right blocker, as fixing the bottom row to ANSI allows the space bar to have three keys on both the left and right of it. If I were to support tsangan, the board would have three keys on the left and only two on the right. This would also force me to design two different tops, as the blocker would have to be a different size in order to support tsangan.
    Reason #3) To lower the number of SKUs for this first run.
  • Why is this 650 USD?
    This price is a result of: the microchip shortage + the low unit count of the project + the 5 different materials used across the whole board (aluminum, stainless steel, brass, dyed polycarbonate, and copper) + complex machining + working with reputable manufacturers.

R1 Prototype Information
  • The color for this prototype is E-White Top w/ E-Black Bottom (The GB units will be Anodized Black instead of E-Black, so keep this in mind).
  • The stainless steel pieces (badge and backplate) for this prototype are both Bead-Blasted.
(https://i.imgur.com/ogXP8c0.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/DpQ44cX.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/q5s0wqt.jpg)


R2 Prototypes Information
  • The colors for these prototypes are E-White/Anodized Black (so the same as what will be offered for the GB).
  • The stainless steel pieces (badge and backplate) for these prototypes are also Bead-Blasted (so the same as what will be offered for the GB).
  • Changes made to R2 Prototype: optimized plate consistency/feel through flexcut changes, increased space in case for PCB flex, made usb-c hole larger, improved assembly design for badge, made adjustments to the o-ring rails for improved durability, added daughterboard stands, and made a JST cable channel.
(https://i.imgur.com/8YmkoGJ.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vFrOrTI.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/F3tyxI9.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/En2SKle.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/InyVZAw.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/uRszaM6.jpg)


Production Units Information
  • Changes made to Production Units: removed the (interiorly located) bottom left screw from the stainless steel weight to eliminate any odds of the switch pins making contact with the screw (when the left control key is pressed), the LEDs on the PCB will be moved further out so the lighting diffusion is improved and so that the LEDs themselves are not visible through the polycarbonate "weight," made slight adjustments to the fillets of the holes on the plate for improved switch fitment, made slight adjustments to the stab cutouts on the plate to accommodate the fillet adjustments made, added an engraving to the interior, and increased the front height of the keyboard to 18.5mm for increased space under the PCB.

Connect With Nazaré Engineering
To stay up to date with this project and any future projects, follow the instagram page and join the discord server below!
Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/nazare.engineering/
Discord Server: https://discord.com/invite/qtmRtdCBJv

Giveaway
In preparation of the February GB, alexotos and I have teamed up to giveaway the Nazaré 1-60 R2 Prototype in the typing test above! Go check out his post to find out how to join the giveaway! Here is the link to it: https://www.instagram.com/p/CZNZqOpOuKP/?utm_medium=copy_link. The giveaway will close on February 14th, 2022 at 10pm EST.

Special Words
I would like to thank the whole rat pack, the entire Nazaré discord, Gondo for the PCB work, Pikku for doing all of the renders, CookieCurls/alexotos/Lulzthax/clack labs/WilsonKeebs/Poesjuh/sj_does_things/KneeDeep for the builds/pictures/typing tests/streams/patina work, and anyone else who helped support this project along the way<3 This project wouldn't have been possible without any of you.

Note
Please consider this post a living document, as I am constantly updating the post to keep everyone informed with the most accurate details.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: RatRave on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:37:00
Board looks really good!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: sunnysidecali on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:39:10
Wow!!! I'm ready to ride the wave ;D
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new &quot;Rail-Ring&quot; Gasket Mount
Post by: dRnRcRr on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:39:49
Very nice
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: eniigma on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:40:17
Looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: kk73715 on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:44:59
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: C_L | Soup on Tue, 06 April 2021, 21:56:22
Beautiful! GLIC, can't wait to see this progress and more designs come from you!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: vheissu on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:02:13
LET'S GOOOOOO
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: MisterWaffle on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:08:58
very well designed and creative. this is gr8
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: novelflyer on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:10:36
It looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: KneeDeep on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:16:24
Dig the side profile and three material accent weights. GL with IC!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Nuap on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:19:06
Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Sifo on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:19:27
Aight this is pretty cool
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:38:59
Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: byfuryattheheart on Tue, 06 April 2021, 22:48:07
Hey I know that wharf and beach!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: YMwoo on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:24:11
finally a different 60% that looks nice.
GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: PlatypusDetective on Tue, 06 April 2021, 23:37:55
Beautiful board. Can't wait for the group buy!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: NoxNoxNox on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:00:20
I'm dying to experience how this feels and sounds to type on compared to typical gasket and o-ring designs.

Sign me up.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Nuap on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:21:45
Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: MelonBred on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:32:02
This is super neat! With the proto in hand, does the design meet your expectation/goals or do you think you might have to do some tweaking?
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Wed, 07 April 2021, 00:36:53
for those curious about the mounting feel, I think the squishy 65 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111401.0)  is something that you can refer to or ask people about the feel. I think the feels may be similar since it uses the same concept, maybe a little harder since it has side mounting as well

I love the weight design, it is so unique for this board!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Hi !! on Wed, 07 April 2021, 01:57:36
Definitely an unique approach. Something worth considering.   :)
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Chippy on Wed, 07 April 2021, 02:40:39
I have only seen this mount once before, always wanted to try it.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: yuutsu on Wed, 07 April 2021, 03:15:57
Will there be non-blocker available as an option? Kinda messes with symmetry...
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: lewisflude on Wed, 07 April 2021, 03:43:09
Looks great!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Izeri on Wed, 07 April 2021, 03:49:46
I really like this, that mounting is definitely interesting!
Also awesome renders by pikku once again :)
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 04:05:27
It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 04:38:38
Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.

I was told by Gondo that he would indeed do this for the PCB. However, just to make sure I messaged him so that he can clear up your question, as I am sure he can do so better than I can.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 04:44:40
This is super neat! With the proto in hand, does the design meet your expectation/goals or do you think you might have to do some tweaking?
The prototype has exceeded my expectations and I am very happy with how it turned out. However, I still have some more testing to do, as I would like to improve upon the keyboard as much as possible before the group buy :)
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 04:58:33
for those curious about the mounting feel, I think the squishy 65 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=111401.0)  is something that you can refer to or ask people about the feel. I think the feels may be similar since it uses the same concept, maybe a little harder since it has side mounting as well

I love the weight design, it is so unique for this board!
Oh wow! I have never actually seen this keyboard before! Thanks for linking this, as I am sure there is some useful information here for those wondering about the mounting system. I will say however that there could still definitely be some differences in both sound/feel due to different factors like the mounting point positions, the material(s) of the keyboard, the compression from the case, and (the durometer softness, size, tightness, and material of) the o-ring. Luckily I will be sending out some prototypes to various content creators and streamers to review and provide further information.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 05:08:06
Will there be non-blocker available as an option? Kinda messes with symmetry...
I completely understand that the blocker isn't for everyone. I initially considered allowing for this option, but after some pondering I ended up deciding against it, as I feel like this blocker gifts the board with its own recognizable and special look. I do understand that it could be a bit polarizing though and am willing to reconsider this option in the future when I am able to comfortably pump out more SKUs.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: GMK83 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 05:23:03
Looks awesome!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 05:39:26
It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Nuap on Wed, 07 April 2021, 05:49:01
Finally an innovative 60% GB.

How about a few underglow LED's on the bottom of the PCB so the blue polycarb wave piece glows?

The PCB will have lighting compatibility!

Can you confirm that underglow compatibility? For that the PCB would need to have pads for LED's like the WS2812B.

I was told by Gondo that he would indeed do this for the PCB. However, just to make sure I messaged him so that he can clear up your question, as I am sure he can do so better than I can.

Great news, I am very keen for this - will definitely be buying during GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: RoyalOak88 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 06:19:49
It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!

Great news and thank you!
As someone who growth seeing Nazaré and also surfs, this have an emotional attachment to me  :)

Last request, is it possible to do some renders with key sets related with the sea/surf/beach down the line? (Ex.: KAT Great Wave, GMK Sunset Surfing, KAM Ocean Font, KAM Aquanaut etc.)

Really excited for this  :cool: GW
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new &quot;Rail-Ring&quot; Gasket Mount
Post by: Slash Emperor on Wed, 07 April 2021, 06:21:29
Killer design, can't wait to ride the wave!

Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 06:30:49
It really saddens me when I see someone being inspired by the culture of a country and then not showing a little love for it.
Not sure why you don't include an ISO version, when your inspiration comes from a country which uses ISO, in a continent where everybody uses ISO. I'm sure that most of people which relates with Nazaré (or at least know it better) are ISO users.
That being said, love the design and this could probably be my fist 60% keyboard. But no ISO, no love.
Thank you for bringing this to my attention. It is only right for this keyboard to have ISO support, so I will get straight to working on it!

Great news and thank you!
As someone who growth seeing Nazaré and also surfs, this have an emotional attachment to me  :)

Last request, is it possible to do some renders with key sets related with the sea/surf/beach down the line? (Ex.: KAT Great Wave, GMK Sunset Surfing, KAM Ocean Font, KAM Aquanaut etc.)

Really excited for this  :cool: GW
Glad I could help! :thumb: Thanks for your support and for your feedback! I do apologize for not including ISO as an option initially, I guess I didn’t expect there to be this much global interest/support. I am pleasantly surprised and grateful for all of the global support I have gotten through the IC form. Expect ISO to always be supported by Nazaré boards from this point on!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Dunne on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:27:15
Nice- this checks a lot of innovative things off the list!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: kabocha on Wed, 07 April 2021, 09:57:24
awwwww yeaaa. sign me up! wait I already am! Congrats on the IC!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: ninjapirate on Wed, 07 April 2021, 10:19:58
Yeah this looks dope.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: yenel on Wed, 07 April 2021, 10:31:20
as a right control user the blocker location saddens me
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: rokon07 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 10:59:23
Great design; The only suggestion I would give would be maybe to move the logo up top and do split backspace with one key removed. Even without the suggested change, the board looks great. Looking forward to GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: treeleaf64 on Wed, 07 April 2021, 11:43:43
So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

from tree leaf
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Havattack on Wed, 07 April 2021, 12:56:28
Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Wed, 07 April 2021, 13:30:54
So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

from tree leaf
I will be sending prototypes out to multiple content creators and streamers who I am sure will do a great job at explaining these differences. Stay tuned!

Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New &quot;Rail-Ring&quot; Gasket Mount
Post by: dRnRcRr on Wed, 07 April 2021, 14:59:28
Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.
Please link us your keyboard IC.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Ustinj on Wed, 07 April 2021, 15:53:24
Another 60 with a pointless coroner blocker... Well, I guess that's what the people want.

l've had thoughts of a WKL left blocker and an HHKB right blocker a few times but never dared to act on it because of symmetry... but I feel like a bottom right blocker on a 60% actually brings practical benefits. For those who use HHKB arrows (with split right shift FN), having no key in the bottom right makes it a lot easier to locate that FN key. A couple times I try hitting FN on a full tsangan layout, I need to be more precise to not hit the bottom right CTRL key.

On topic, nice work OP, I like the aesthetic you've got going on and the multi-colored weights
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Zoba on Wed, 07 April 2021, 19:00:24
i think the mini o-rings are kind of cute  ;)
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Zetina on Wed, 07 April 2021, 20:48:16
Very very nice
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: finalarcadia on Wed, 07 April 2021, 20:49:08
If you add ISO pls make a separate plate for it  Great looking board here.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with New "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: Invezting on Thu, 08 April 2021, 04:15:37
If you add ISO pls make a separate plate for it  Great looking board here.
Will do!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Coby on Thu, 08 April 2021, 04:18:57
I like your approach on developing a new mounting system in which is always appreciated and welcome innovation into the hobby, the only con imo and its solely my personal taste is the right bottom blocker, idk maybe its just my ocd triggering the asymmetrical look and in my mind its just spain without the s, but apart from that lil buggie board is fabulous, GLWIC  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: PuddingPug on Thu, 08 April 2021, 04:22:35
Keeping an eye on this!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: ectoplasmatic on Thu, 08 April 2021, 04:28:24
Here for Nazaré. Love love love the bottom logo design.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: slg1993 on Thu, 08 April 2021, 12:26:39
I will echo what others are saying, the design of the weight(s) is really the selling point here for me, they look absolutely beautiful

if the sound and feel turn out to be good this might be a must buy!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: kaworu on Thu, 08 April 2021, 13:36:11
Thank you for adding ISO support. I filled the IC form stating I would not buy the board, but now I will definitely consider it!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Tom Sparrow on Thu, 08 April 2021, 13:48:45
This looks so interesting damn! This is a bottom row I have not seen yet but I really dig it!
GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: HelloThisIsDog on Thu, 08 April 2021, 19:25:06
Cannot wait for you to take the monies from my wallet this is a gorgeous board!!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: WalkinTrashCan on Thu, 08 April 2021, 22:40:22
love the weights and bottom right blocker, looking forward to the day when gb is announced.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: BrainBunker on Fri, 09 April 2021, 03:00:24
Great concept and execution, good luck!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: arq1999 on Sat, 10 April 2021, 20:55:59
Amazing Looking forward to GB!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: helborne on Sun, 11 April 2021, 20:58:45
bottom right blocker is such a good choice. will be watching this one
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Delontino on Tue, 13 April 2021, 16:38:56
I'm in for this. ge that GB going and you'll have my money!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: UGunaLOSE on Wed, 14 April 2021, 06:59:22
This is creative and cool! Well done GLWIC
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 - Bottom Right Blocker 60% with new "Rail-Ring" Gasket Mount
Post by: tex_live_utility on Thu, 15 April 2021, 11:47:55
So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

from tree leaf

In my experience, the o-ring feels "more gasket-ey", maybe because of the shape (cylinder vs. rectangle) so it can compress more or differently? Physics, idk.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: netwrknerd on Tue, 20 April 2021, 23:29:52
Sign me up.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Cubic // esc lab on Wed, 21 April 2021, 02:08:05
Can't say I'm a huge fan of the design of the butt/base, but I dig the front, and the mount design is intriguing. If this is under $350, I can see myself supporting the GB!


GLWIC/GB.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Rafa_n on Wed, 21 April 2021, 03:45:50
Can't say I'm a huge fan of the design of the butt/base, but I dig the front, and the mount design is intriguing. If this is under $350, I can see myself supporting the GB!


GLWIC/GB.

probably closer to $500 I would guess
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Nuap on Wed, 21 April 2021, 07:29:48
Can't say I'm a huge fan of the design of the butt/base, but I dig the front, and the mount design is intriguing. If this is under $350, I can see myself supporting the GB!


GLWIC/GB.

probably closer to $500 I would guess

I will still cop.... a novel mounting solution with an interesting design is hard to NOT support.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: abellp327 on Wed, 21 April 2021, 08:34:08
Count me in  :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: NorrittMTG on Wed, 21 April 2021, 16:05:54
If end game existed... this would be it.
Would love a 7U bottom row but considering how gorgeous the board is that's a really minor thing.
So appreciate the ISO support too  :thumb:

Really hope we get to help you bring this to the UK
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Ryanticz on Wed, 21 April 2021, 18:30:17
Love the look of this. The bottom looks so good! Definitely in for this
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: kennan on Wed, 21 April 2021, 18:32:27
Can't say I'm a huge fan of the design of the butt/base, but I dig the front, and the mount design is intriguing. If this is under $350, I can see myself supporting the GB!


GLWIC/GB.

 Aren't you the dude who made a post a while ago saying how he could exploit people for artisans. lol.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 21 April 2021, 23:25:34
Interesting Mounting Style. It's like Leaf Spring and O-Ring had a baby.
Would it be possible to clip off some of wings/leaves in order to increase flex/bounce?
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: seh0nk on Wed, 28 April 2021, 21:52:54
I didn't know my sexuality until I saw this keyboard
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: locxu on Wed, 05 May 2021, 11:39:42
You should add option to buy different badge colors, such as copper or blue badge.
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: azzipa on Wed, 05 May 2021, 21:39:53
lots of good stuff going on here even if it’s not my jam (bottom row blocker). i also see you referenced the dalco 959 mini so i expect some pretty aggressive pricing even though it’s your first effort. it will be exciting to see where will you go from here. best of luck with your new company, you’ve definitely got a vision and some cool ideas!


So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

from tree leaf
I will be sending prototypes out to multiple content creators and streamers who I am sure will do a great job at explaining these differences. Stay tuned!

Hello, my name is Brian/Invezting and I am a long standing member of the community who has almost a decade of experience in engineering/CAD.

have to admit that i’m scratching my head wondering why, as an engineer, you can’t answer treeleaf’s question. also would be interesting to hear why you chose this approach, the actual or intended benefits, etc.

Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Invezting on Thu, 06 May 2021, 02:36:14
lots of good stuff going on here even if it’s not my jam (bottom row blocker). i also see you referenced the dalco 959 mini so i expect some pretty aggressive pricing even though it’s your first effort. it will be exciting to see where will you go from here. best of luck with your new company, you’ve definitely got a vision and some cool ideas!


So what is the difference between this and one o ring that goes around the whole assembly
Also I want to know difference between this and normal strip gasket

from tree leaf
I will be sending prototypes out to multiple content creators and streamers who I am sure will do a great job at explaining these differences. Stay tuned!

Hello, my name is Brian/Invezting and I am a long standing member of the community who has almost a decade of experience in engineering/CAD.

have to admit that i’m scratching my head wondering why, as an engineer, you can’t answer treeleaf’s question. also would be interesting to hear why you chose this approach, the actual or intended benefits, etc.
Hey! Thanks for the kind words! In regards to treeleaf's question, I think that the feel and sound can vary due to various different factors like the mounting points, the material(s) of the keyboard, the compression from the case, and (the durometer softness, size, tightness, & material of) the o-rings. In fact, if you were to compare two different whole assembly o-ring mounted keyboards I guarantee that they would not feel or sound identical to one another. This same reasoning could be applied to gasket strip mounted keyboards. This is why I did not feel that it would be an accurate analysis to compare the sound or feel of this keyboard to a whole other generalized mounting style, especially since I have not tried every single board out there. This is actually why I answered treeleafs question by saying to stay tuned for upcoming reviews (from content creators/streamers), as I am sure that they have tried a lot more keyboards than me, making their review and comparison a lot more accurate and less bias than my own.

In regards to the design approach of this keyboard, I wrote this in the geekhack post: "I designed a brand new mounting style for this keyboard, which I have called the “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system. This new “Rail-Ring” gasket mount system is basically a hybrid of isolation gasket mount and o-ring gummy gasket mount. This mounting system consists of wrapping o-rings around every edge of the plate to dampen all contact between the plate and case. The left/right edges of the plate have 1 o-ring wrapped around them. The top/bottom edges of the plate have 3 o-rings wrapped around them. All 8 o-rings then rest inside of tunnels machined into both the top and bottom of the keyboard. These tunnels are meant to keep the plate in place and provide a little bit of o-ring compression. The depth of these tunnels also keeps the plate in a floating position where the plate doesn’t make any contact with the case. This system was designed with the intention of providing a consistent typing experience across the whole plate, as well as hopefully improving upon the already satisfying typing experience associated with o-ring gummy gasket mounted keyboards." I hope this answers most of your questions!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: azzipa on Thu, 06 May 2021, 09:12:56
awesome reply, thank you!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: mukhrizthedodo on Thu, 20 May 2021, 13:13:13
Woah i've been looking for a new 60% for a while now, and this might just be it! This is one beautiful rectangle, props to you and those involved with the creation of this board!
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 10 November 2021, 04:45:30
Typing test:

Build stream, available for two weeks:
https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1200703611


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Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Poesjuh on Wed, 10 November 2021, 06:39:37
And some pictures :)

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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211110/059a4e5007bc7b542b07eb880546ae80.jpg)
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211110/80d7b15ac815f074410ffe6a8cf9821b.jpg)


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Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: stidal on Wed, 10 November 2021, 06:43:16
looks super sick! was sort of conflicted about the transparent wave, but i've come to the conclusion that i'm definitely with it
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: clacklabs on Wed, 29 December 2021, 05:38:50
Some more pics from me ;D

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Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: TomatoMan on Thu, 30 December 2021, 18:33:12
Love the idea behind the design, i think something a bit more recalling sun and moon would have been even cooler, like even a sun/moon engraving on each weight would be insane!
Anyway the mounting style looks very interesting, wonder if it's gonna feel similar to a kei or maybe a lil bit more bouncy  :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: schrobie on Sun, 02 January 2022, 05:35:46
Love the idea for the gaskets. Board looks really nice
Title: Re: [IC] Nazaré 1-60 W1 by Nazaré Engineering
Post by: Nullwave on Wed, 23 February 2022, 19:10:53
PLEASE ADD A POLYCARB PLATE thx
I won the raffle !!!  :thumb: