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Offline chriszhu

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:36:28 »
Looking forward to this!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:48:32 »
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:52:36 »
definitely add wkl version.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 08:58:54 »
Im so dowwwn, hope this isn't a FCFS or have limited numbers
Feel like that's just the way it has to be these days with the massive influx of people. Only a couple of boards as or late have been open ended group buys

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:28:32 »
Hope to join this as my first group buy.  Beautiful board

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:41:37 »
Yeah, it makes total sense. Maybe I'm too slow for these limited quantity gbs.
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 February 2020, 09:43:35 by Jaltr »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:12:47 »
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 13:32:26 »
definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 14:14:37 »
Interested! Just a note, it looks like the discord link is broken.
Thanks for the heads up! I apparently set it to expire after one day. Fixed now!

definitely add wkl version.

This.

If you add a wkl version, definitely keep the regular version. I know, people are so hard to please.  ;)

Looking into making a 6.25u WKL version, so that I can put it on the same plate as the standard layout.
« Last Edit: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:11:28 by snurrebassen »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:08:48 »
I'm in!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 21 February 2020, 15:15:53 »
wow, looks cool and solid, and gasket in addition!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #62 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:05:00 »
Very interested in this! Love to see a hot swap option.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #63 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 09:30:56 »
You got my feedback ;)  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #64 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 10:55:24 »
FYI: this layout is called "70%". (Actually, it is one of several layouts called "70%")

Is 1.5mm PC plate durable enough?

Designed in Norway, and no ISO support?! No support for stepped Caps Lock?!
I'm happy to see that the USB port is broken out to a separate PCB.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #65 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 11:02:30 »
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #66 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 12:17:29 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 13:16:45 »
IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
« Last Edit: Sun, 23 February 2020, 15:13:56 by DrHigsby »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 23:35:21 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 00:38:28 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:00:58 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:07:00 »
Eh. 70% is such a rare category. I like this description better. Most 70% I've seen scrunch everything together. This def has the TKL shape. I like it as a describer.

I just realized this! Gonna change it for the GB at least, sounds so much better.

IC filled out! I really really really like this.

Edit: To weigh in on the win key debate; I think having WKL as an option would be cool, but I personally dislike how it splits apart the row.
Thank you for filling it out! <3

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 01:25:16 »
Filled out the IC form a couple of days ago but keep coming back to look at the nice renders! I hope this lilac colour will make it as an option for the GB...  haven't dared get a purple board yet but that colour looks mighty nice in the render at least.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 03:26:00 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 04:29:12 »
Does it support ISO?
If so, I'm definitely interested.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:50:24 »
...
As for layout compatibility, in the first run with prototypes we're only looking at standard ANSI and ISO layouts.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 24 February 2020, 08:51:24 »
FKL WKL TKL > FKL TKL
Uh. Sure?

Forgive me. 'WKL' and 'TKL' I know. What does FKL stand for?

frow keyless i guess? that's how i interpret it

Oh duh. My bad. That seems obvious in retrospect.
Haha. Yeah. My response was just because WKL is such a personal preference and way more subjective. Don't think there's any definitive reasoning why WKL would be better. It's not like it significantly saves more space. It just removes 2 buttons.

I also prefer winkey, but it's less of a mouthful to pronounce.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 05:37:14 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.




This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb
« Last Edit: Thu, 27 February 2020, 05:39:14 by snurrebassen »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:12:45 »
It all looks amazing, looking forward to it :)
Hopefully you will be able to run this GB this year, like maybe Q2-3, to get it done and delivered by Q4.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:41:55 »
Interesting board!

Would like to see with some badge on the board rather than the names.
« Last Edit: Thu, 27 February 2020, 07:50:29 by yhehdgjs »

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 08:24:08 »
I'm so in!

I love the look of this, having just the 60% keys with the nav and arrow clusters makes it look very sleek and tidy.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 15:42:35 »
I love this layout!  It really is perfect. I disagree with those calling for a wider bezel beside the direction keys. I prefer the thinner one as-is.

I know it's early, but do you plan to work with any third party retailer on this board? I like this keyboard, but there's too many unfulfilled one-man-show group buys out there. With such a clean and unassuming board, I wish someone would just stock it like KBDFans does with the Tofu boards.

I don't see much value in the designed internal weight though. Either make it visible for aesthetic, or just make it optional to reduce price.

Definitely agree with points two and three. I'm fine with the bezels either way.

One of my first thoughts was how would it look with a bit more space between the arrow cluster say same thickness as the bezels.
Just out of curiosity..
but the one thing i would like to see is this board at KBDfans.. or at least a eu proxy..
for the weight i would save that €€ so it's more affordable to all of us.
You made such a clean design really good looking now keep the price as low as you can without sacrificing to much..
Good luck and my compliments on the design.. i'm truly impressed

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:11:33 »
Have bin looking at a couple of other active options.. like the Primatech, the Hiney tkl one, the EO-87..
And when i ask myself which one would you want to see on your desk .. ?? it's this one..
But i do have to admit i like the Hiney side cut-outs or what you might call those..
Makes it easier to grab the board..still really nice board.. and that's coming from a  65% addict..

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 16:17:22 »
Hineybush PCB is really nice. A high quality PCB. I recommend it to everyone.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 27 February 2020, 23:55:17 »
I really like this design. Sign me up, I am definitely interested.

Interested in seeing what the final colors chosen will be, too.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 05:15:28 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image

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This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 10:58:58 »
Very nice update. I was on fence to begin with, but now I'm upgraded to totally in. Thank you for universal plate. Also hoping a navy blue or blue-grey color can make it in, but that lilac is VERY handsome indeed.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #88 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 11:55:11 »
YES the split spacebar makes this a must buy for me i'm pumped

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #89 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 13:33:50 »
Reviewing comments and answers on the IC, and I'm overwhelmed with the positive responses! I'm so excited to hear that a lot of people are happy to see this layout being made. I'm really passionate about making this keyboard work well and sound beautiful and I'm very eager to get started prototyping.

As of now I've rebuilt the case from scratch, for the sake of cleaning up my files and making edits easier. I started the design not really knowing how it would end up, and so I worked in a way which turned out quite messy and edits were pretty complicated to make. I made up everything from scratch again, starting from the newly made plate design, with all the layouts incorporated into one plate.

Show Image

Show Image


This plate will support:
  • ANSI
  • ISO
  • Tsangan (WKL)
  • Split spacebar
  • Split backspace

The hotswap PCB will only be available in ANSI and ISO since the hotswap pockets take up a lot of space on the PCB and can't be overlapped.

Note: If you do notice something wrong with my plate/layout logic do let me know. I'm primarily an ANSI user myself so I'm not too familiar with other layouts.

Other updates:
- Front height adjusted to 17mm
- Rubber legs will be strips, not standard circular bumpers
- HHKB top unfortunately ruled out in the first round, but high possibilities that it will be included in a future run if things go well!
- WKL alternative tops will be an option

I think I also will change the weight to the outside of the bottom, exposed with the logo engraved. No fancy peeking through or merging of parts though. The screws will be hidden on the inside of the case.

The weight will be an option you can opt out of for a slightly cheaper case.

Things still in process:
- Back design, trying out various changes to make it look a little bit more interesting. If it doesn't work, I'll go with the clean design as is.
- Indicator LEDs design/look, as well as badge/name engraved on the top.
- Room for foam/dampening on the inside.

Thank you so much for your kind words and support!! I'm sorry if I haven't replied to your comment, I try to answer the ones that I can. Just be persistent if you have any questions that go unanswered, and you can also still join my discord server dedicated to this project!

- snurrebassen/seb

Very good job indeed with the plate and layouts.
You should need to consider making a different plate for alps, (I personally wouldn't mind to pay extra for that) because the switch holes bigger than 1u do not work properly with ALPS.

ALPS switches clip onto the corners, and when you extend the hole to allow for different places (for example in the split backspace option) the switches only have 2 corners to clip onto, and they end up crooked. The holes for the spacebars with stabs to them are fine enough although you should know that the switch has nothing to support itself there, so it's like "PCB mount" in there. Keeping the hole short in the vertical axis provides alignment, so those positions are not an issue for me.

Summing it up, it would be best if you made a different plate for alps or at least cut the small inside corners in places where switches would only support on one side. If you need I can give you more info and examples via PM :)

I see, i haven’t thought of that, mostly because I haven’t used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates aren’t exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #90 on: Fri, 28 February 2020, 14:18:21 »
Filled out the form. HHKB top please, pretty please

Great design!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #91 on: Sat, 29 February 2020, 04:58:48 »
Super Keen on this one mate, PLEASE MAKE THIS AND TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 01:50:21 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 07:21:12 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 08:52:46 »
I love this so much, especially that it is something no one ever seen before! Just a thought though, I kinda like thinner outer bezels, makes the board even cleaner. And, can you maybe fit some sort of logo between the key clusters on the right? Thought it would look great! External weight would also look great, I have to agree.

Thank you for your comment and support! Unfortunately due to the mounting, the outer bezels has to be rather thick, since it has to make space for the screws as well as the whole bottom wall. It's part of the whole design at this point :)
Aside from that I'm working on a logo to put on the top part, as well as moving the weight to the external side, but keeping the screws on the inside!

The thicc-er the bezel, the better =)

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 10:45:49 »
BTW, will this be an unlimited GB?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a &quot;TKL&quot; 60% Keyboard
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 13:56:26 »
I see, i haven’t thought of that, mostly because I haven’t used alps switches yet! It makes sense too, seeing as most buyers most likely use MX to have separate plates, especially since plates aren’t exactly cheaper to produce the more
plates you make, unless you manufacture them
differently. Good input!
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You can always offer cheaper materials for ALPS plates, or, as I said, I'd pay a bit more to have a proper plate. As I said, if you need some help regarding that just hit me up via PM and I'll give you an insight.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 14:14:49 »
The purple version is pretty nice <3

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #98 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 16:25:30 »
Love it so much!!
It is nice to see those great feature combined together.
Hope the group buy is going to be unlimited tho..

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #99 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 03:40:36 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.