Lol. Your Marine reference is pretty invalid here. Plus, guess what?! Even the marines know it's not safe. Guess what every branch of armed services is doing for any recruiting classes? That's right.. 14 day isolation followed by COVID-19 test. No one allowed on sight that isn't guaranteed 14 day clear of exposure. I'd be down with that at schools, but it's not possible. Like I said, the entire issue is that children return to their homes for 1/2 of the day.
I wasn't relating it to COVID, I am talking long-term psychological effects of hermit brain.
What does that necessarily even have to do with alternative/more streamlined/personal/efficient methods of schooling vs. the refuse that we have now, and how does it necessarily even happen less when forcing everyone to sit in a classroom and have a teacher drone on so the slow kids can keep up while half of the rest go to sleep, etc? What about those nonsensical, bad social habits it instills into the thought processes of the youth is good? I imagine most kids need a good existentialism course to attempt to shake them back out of the resulting ingrained herd mentality and flight from independent thought that it seeds.
I have been told that I was always smiling before school, and very outgoing. Maybe I would have developed the same way regardless, but there was nothing at all throughout my entire school experience that did anything other than reverse this. As I am now, I am introverted, maybe even antisocial. I have developed social skills, out of necessity, but do not hold them in high regard. Some people are also, in fact, just different kinds of people regardless of whatever interactions they may have had during development.
That's the one thing that I can say that school did give me. I taught myself to self-regulate every inch of my psyche, myself, with only my mind (no substances, no shrinks). Meandering lectures that were often about nothing of relevance at all to the lesson and long bus rides were spent pondering philosophy and developing a worldview, even before I knew what philosophy was.
I saw your somewhat recent posts in the "What's bothering you?" thread, about basically feeling useless. I always found the title of that thread curious. School, indirectly, through otherwise wasted time put to good use through introspection, also helped me with that. I think others touched on it in that thread too. You don't have any meaning, I don't have any meaning, the universe and all that's it in has no meaning at all. We spend our lives distracting ourselves from that through the pursuit of arbitrary life goals, hobbies and entertainment, which also have no meaning. The earth orbited the sun an unknown number of times before we were born, it will do so after we're gone, and it will take an insignificant amount of the churning of the sands of time before our ever having existed to begin with will be rendered irrelevant, regardless of whatever we did that could reasonably be considered accomplishments. From dust to dust, as they say.
School taught me that, through negative interactions and time to kill thinking ... although that has nothing at all to do with what it was meant to do. Becoming comfortable both with that and the somewhat-related fact that there's literally no benefit at all to worrying about things that you cannot control, and finding a way to stop those tendencies in their tracks, go a long way towards ensuring you'll be relatively unphased by just about anything that may happen. I don't worry about much at all anymore. What will be will be. School obliquely set me down that path.
I think a lot more can be expected from a radically-reformed system though, one that's not structured entirely as if it were still the 1800s, when the sources of knowledge themselves were inaccessible to most outside of a classroom. I find their constant faux emphasis on innovation amusing, they've innovated very little in centuries, and in the cases of things previously mentioned, like apprenticeships, education has actually devolved, to the detriment of us all.
Lol. Your Marine reference is pretty invalid here. Plus, guess what?! Even the marines know it's not safe. Guess what every branch of armed services is doing for any recruiting classes? That's right.. 14 day isolation followed by COVID-19 test. No one allowed on sight that isn't guaranteed 14 day clear of exposure. I'd be down with that at schools, but it's not possible. Like I said, the entire issue is that children return to their homes for 1/2 of the day.
I wasn't relating it to COVID, I am talking long-term psychological effects of hermit brain.
I get it. And it was snarky of me the way I replied. I'm just tense. As are most of us lately. I wish I didn't feel like I was living in bizzaro world.
We've always lived in bizzaro world. Most things society values are pointless, most of the processes they implement as standard in a given situation are inherently inefficient/irrational, or even counter-productive. I'm no anarchist, but I would tear the whole thing down and rebuild it if given a choice. I think crisis only highlights how misguided people already always are.
I have come to be very frustrated with younger people entering the workforce
School breaks a lot of people
Modern society is complex.
Bottom line is that there needs to be a work force cooperating to accomplish things.
If not school, then what other psychological preparation is there for the "real world"?
Definitely not the internet where instead of having your ideas challenged people tend to gravitate to safe space echo chambers that reflect their preconceived notions. That's what is really frightening, people being fine living in a world that doesn't challenge them to think differently or understand fresh concepts.
I'm not sure what the point of this perceived dichotomy is. There is not traditional schooling vs. arbitrary partss of the unrestricted expanse of the internet, normal socialization vs social media (which I abhor).
There is free thought vs. echo chambers ... cliques, stereotypes, trends ... like we know are rampant ... in schools, as well as on social media, etc, but that really has nothing directly related traditional schooling vs. alternatives either. I know my first brush with free thought actually being taught in a classroom was in an
elective philosophy class, and I actually think that philosophy being required is one of the first things that should change.
