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Title: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Sun, 14 March 2021, 17:07:31
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UM-70 is an affordable feature-rich 70 keys split keyboard in 65% layout. It equipped with macro keys, encoder, OLED screen, in switch RGB and sidelight RGB housed in PLA 3D printed case.

Please fill in the IC form - https://forms.gle/8HggvQL8zHufy5279 (https://forms.gle/8HggvQL8zHufy5279)

Album - https://imgur.com/a/7lHVLjd (https://imgur.com/a/7lHVLjd)

Typing sounds - https://youtu.be/gNvdUvDgnyk (https://youtu.be/gNvdUvDgnyk)

Specs
   70 Keys QWERTY split in 65% layout
   OLED Screen
   Encoder (15mm rotary knob)
   In switch RGB and sidelight RGB
   Top Mounted
   RF4 Plates
   3 Degree Typing Angle
   USB-C
   Hopswap
   QMK, VIA Compatible
   PLA FDM 3D Printed Housing
   Left 170 x 120 x 25mm
   Right 205 x 120 x 25mm

PCB Layouts
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Soldering is required
To maintain a lower price point, PCB is part assembled. Therefore, soldering is required for hotswap sockets, RGBs, TRRS jack and OLED. Guide will be provided.

Colors (tbc, please fill the IC form.)
   Galaxy Black
   Galaxy Purple
   Marble Effects
   White
   Baby Blue
   Mint
   Pastel Pink
   RF4 plates will be available in Black or White


FAQ
How much will it cost?
Around 130 - 150 per kit. Final pricing will be confirmed.

Will extra PCBs be available to order?
Yes

Can you share the STL files so I can print it myself?
No.

Why not use pro micro if you want to keep the cost down?
I want USB-C on my keyboards. USB-C pro micro (Elite-c) is not cheap and it needed two here.

When will the GB starts?
End of March or early April.

Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: Vibex on Sun, 14 March 2021, 19:20:06
I like the concept, but would like to see a more substantial case if there aren't going to be case files available.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Sun, 14 March 2021, 19:38:07
I like the concept, but would like to see a more substantial case if there aren't going to be case files available.
Can you elaborate?
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: Vibex on Sun, 14 March 2021, 20:56:16
I like the concept, but would like to see a more substantial case if there aren't going to be case files available.
Can you elaborate?
I just wouldn't expect a closed sourced case to be 3d printed. Would expect it to be injected molded plastic, aluminum acrylic, etc
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Sun, 14 March 2021, 22:26:51
I like the concept, but would like to see a more substantial case if there aren't going to be case files available.
Can you elaborate?
I just wouldn't expect a closed sourced case to be 3d printed. Would expect it to be injected molded plastic, aluminum acrylic, etc

I see what you mean. We all expected to receive source files for free when come to 3D printing. I give my salutes to people out there who are willing to give away the source files for free.

From my point of view, I've spent the time to design the case and pcb as I would have on a case made of other materials. Imagine asking for the source file of an aluminium case because CNC service is now readily accessible.

Another reason for not releasing the source file is that I'll able to ensure the quality of the products that carry the brand name.

I made it clear this is a keyboard in a 3D printed housing and I think the price reflects that. This is not for everyone for sure, but I hope someone out there is interested in this kind of products.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: hello21 on Mon, 15 March 2021, 00:10:04
This is the sort of layout I as looking for!
Do you reckon you'd offer any colours other than those in the IC?
Such as that orange... or that orange... or that orange
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: Extra Fox on Mon, 15 March 2021, 00:27:31
This is appealing. I filled out the IC form and will be keeping an eye on this.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: dibstern on Mon, 15 March 2021, 03:18:21
This layout but sleek and expensively constructed would be awesome
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: Vibex on Mon, 15 March 2021, 09:18:30
I see what you mean. We all expected to receive source files for free when come to 3D printing. I give my salutes to people out there who are willing to give away the source files for free.

From my point of view, I've spent the time to design the case and pcb as I would have on a case made of other materials. Imagine asking for the source file of an aluminium case because CNC service is now readily accessible.

Another reason for not releasing the source file is that I'll able to ensure the quality of the products that carry the brand name.

I made it clear this is a keyboard in a 3D printed housing and I think the price reflects that. This is not for everyone for sure, but I hope someone out there is interested in this kind of products.
Oh I totally get that. I do a ton of work like this as well, and I totally understand getting paid for the time and effort you put in.
My main concern isn't that the case is closed source (though I do prefer open source), but that 3D printing isn't as durable/high quality as other materials. Case's will be easier to damage/won't last as long. If the files were open source then users could just print a new case as needed. But given that its not, someone would need to create an entirely new file set for it when there's needs to be replaced. When I'm investing in a keyboard I really want it to be something that will last me for years and years to come. 3D printing is great for prototypes, just not a fan at all for long term investments.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: TeeNam on Mon, 15 March 2021, 09:28:30
contact vendors pls if u can, shipping price kills me
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Mon, 15 March 2021, 14:59:19
I see what you mean. We all expected to receive source files for free when come to 3D printing. I give my salutes to people out there who are willing to give away the source files for free.

From my point of view, I've spent the time to design the case and pcb as I would have on a case made of other materials. Imagine asking for the source file of an aluminium case because CNC service is now readily accessible.

Another reason for not releasing the source file is that I'll able to ensure the quality of the products that carry the brand name.

I made it clear this is a keyboard in a 3D printed housing and I think the price reflects that. This is not for everyone for sure, but I hope someone out there is interested in this kind of products.
Oh I totally get that. I do a ton of work like this as well, and I totally understand getting paid for the time and effort you put in.
My main concern isn't that the case is closed source (though I do prefer open source), but that 3D printing isn't as durable/high quality as other materials. Case's will be easier to damage/won't last as long. If the files were open source then users could just print a new case as needed. But given that its not, someone would need to create an entirely new file set for it when there's needs to be replaced. When I'm investing in a keyboard I really want it to be something that will last me for years and years to come. 3D printing is great for prototypes, just not a fan at all for long term investments.

I wouldn't want people to think this keyboard is an investment as such. I want to position this board as an entry board with many features crammed in. In this case(!), the features are split, RGB, OLED, encoder and possibly audio. This gives opportunity to try many things out with a single board, and with the familiar QWERTY layout, it will still be welcoming to use after playing with it, compare to other ortho board with similar features.

I understand 3D print PLA is not the strongest material, but It will still last a long time if being careful with it. The same goes for many things, for example, PCB can be fragile if not handled properly, components can be knocked off or solder pads could come off if not using solder iron properly. IMO, I don't think it is the reason to justifies to open source. Nothing last forever after all.

PCB only option will be available if someone wants to make the case themself. I'm also considering offer case only option for those who have concern about the longevity of the material.

Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Mon, 15 March 2021, 15:08:29
This is the sort of layout I as looking for!
Do you reckon you'd offer any colours other than those in the IC?
Such as that orange... or that orange... or that orange

I offered orange in other gb, but turned out orange is not a popular choice of colour.
I'll keep that in mind, I'll add in if many people asked for it.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: catamscott on Mon, 15 March 2021, 16:55:28
is hotswap forced or is a solder pcb an option?
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: online on Mon, 15 March 2021, 17:40:40
is hotswap forced or is a solder pcb an option?

Hotswap only atm.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: MortalKonga on Tue, 23 March 2021, 08:46:41
Hi! It looks wonderful. What about ISO layout?
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: tex_live_utility on Tue, 23 March 2021, 09:00:29
Nice design. Are you using heat-set screw inserts for the plate mounting?

I'm used to PLA keyboards being very loud and "plasticky" sounding. I know typing sound tests are never accurate, but it'd be great to get a sound test of the built prototype alongside another keyboard as a reference. It's very easy to compare two boards side-by-side even on a low quality microphone, even if it's not exactly how it will sound IRL.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: kasmog on Wed, 21 April 2021, 08:54:19
Concept is good, and I really like the design and features.
I would've joined the GB in a heart beat, but soldering a hotswap socket beats the purpose of a hotswap PCB. I know you are cutting cost, but how much does a regular solder PCB will add to the final price?
I don't mind the that we have to solder the RGB LEDs because they are optional, but soldering a hotswap socket is more tedious than a regular solder PCB.
Maybe a through hole PCB style next time?
Shame really, I really like this board, but I just can't pull the trigger.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: neokeitaro on Tue, 27 April 2021, 04:00:12
This would be my end-game with an optional aluminum case.
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: HappyB0T on Tue, 27 April 2021, 10:11:31
At this price - this is a really fun project board. Certainly more on the tinkering spectrum of the entry level. Very interesting!
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: Tomn on Fri, 28 May 2021, 20:05:34
Looks super nice!
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: FullCryoPsychochomp on Sun, 30 May 2021, 21:36:24
Will there be extras after the group buy orders ship?
Title: Re: [IC] UM-70 | Affordable 65% Split Keyboard with OLED and Encoder
Post by: treeleaf64 on Sun, 30 May 2021, 23:20:11
Aaa if this was only column stagger it would be my endgame.   i know it's hard to ask  but i would love to have a column stagger with the same functionality as a 65