Author Topic: kmiller8's 40% Board (Where we're going... we don't need stabilizers) (Read 47302 times)

samwisekoi · « **Reply #200 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:27:57 »

Quote from: noxwood on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:14:20

Which is the one that is designed to not break the port but the cable?

In my experience with things larger than phones, microUSB connectors stay attached in a fall and bend both the PCBA connector and the cable end. Again, in my experience, MiniUSB connectors simply come out and nothing breaks.

I cannot speak to dropping a connected Rosewill keyboard! I plan to avoid that scenario.

- Ron | samwisekoi

inteli722 · « **Reply #201 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 15:51:59 »

Quote from: samwisekoi on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:27:57

Quote from: noxwood on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:14:20
Which is the one that is designed to not break the port but the cable?

In my experience with things larger than phones, microUSB connectors stay attached in a fall and bend both the PCBA connector and the cable end. Again, in my experience, MiniUSB connectors simply come out and nothing breaks.

I cannot speak to dropping a connected Rosewill keyboard! I plan to avoid that scenario.

- Ron | samwisekoi
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I do think that Mini-USb > Micro-USB (Due to bending and breaking, especially for something that's meant to be portable that's not a phone), but I can understand that if, for some reason, the case size requires Micro. Micro's just fine for phones (and Raspberry Pis, not to mention keyboards meant to be stationary), but I wouldn't want it on a keyboard meant to be carried around, which I can only assume is the purpose behind this keyboard (unless he is A) tight for space (not likely, based on that desk in the video) or B) just wants a tiny keyboard for some reason).

TheQsanity · « **Reply #202 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 16:04:14 »

Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:02:17

Quote from: inteli722 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 12:50:55
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:42:25
Make it micro USB. I might forget that I posted this and post it again on page 15
I'm not entirely sure why people want Micro-USB. I generally prefer Mini-USB or (if the size of the board permits it) Full-size USB B. I feel Micro-USB is too thin and insecure.
It is because micro USB is built for 1000s of plug ins and disconnects and mini-usb is not. I've not really checked it much, but I think micro might even have a tighter connection when it is plugged in. It would also be nice to use the same cables for our phones as keyboards, then we carry less crap with us when we go places.

So true. Micro is way more convenient. If anyone is afraid of. Falling o ut, yout can look at the g700 slot and dock. I think micro stays in better but has a higher chance to be bent. Most of my cables don't bend or break. (Micro). I have had one that broke and fall out. It was a three meter cable from Amazon. It was just poor quality.

TheProfosist · « **Reply #203 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 18:15:25 »

Quote from: TheQsanity on Mon, 21 January 2013, 16:04:14

Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:02:17
Quote from: inteli722 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 12:50:55
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:42:25
Make it micro USB. I might forget that I posted this and post it again on page 15
I'm not entirely sure why people want Micro-USB. I generally prefer Mini-USB or (if the size of the board permits it) Full-size USB B. I feel Micro-USB is too thin and insecure.
It is because micro USB is built for 1000s of plug ins and disconnects and mini-usb is not. I've not really checked it much, but I think micro might even have a tighter connection when it is plugged in. It would also be nice to use the same cables for our phones as keyboards, then we carry less crap with us when we go places.
So true. Micro is way more convenient. If anyone is afraid of. Falling o ut, yout can look at the g700 slot and dock. I think micro stays in better but has a higher chance to be bent. Most of my cables don't bend or break. (Micro). I have had one that broke and fall out. It was a three meter cable from Amazon. It was just poor quality.

ive only bent cables doing stupid stuff with my phone but id rather have to buy a new cable than a new phone.

samwisekoi · « **Reply #204 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 18:42:54 »

Quote from: TheProfosist on Mon, 21 January 2013, 18:15:25

Quote from: TheQsanity on Mon, 21 January 2013, 16:04:14
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 13:02:17
Quote from: inteli722 on Mon, 21 January 2013, 12:50:55
Quote from: danielucf on Mon, 21 January 2013, 08:42:25
Make it micro USB. I might forget that I posted this and post it again on page 15
I'm not entirely sure why people want Micro-USB. I generally prefer Mini-USB or (if the size of the board permits it) Full-size USB B. I feel Micro-USB is too thin and insecure.
It is because micro USB is built for 1000s of plug ins and disconnects and mini-usb is not. I've not really checked it much, but I think micro might even have a tighter connection when it is plugged in. It would also be nice to use the same cables for our phones as keyboards, then we carry less crap with us when we go places.
So true. Micro is way more convenient. If anyone is afraid of. Falling o ut, yout can look at the g700 slot and dock. I think micro stays in better but has a higher chance to be bent. Most of my cables don't bend or break. (Micro). I have had one that broke and fall out. It was a three meter cable from Amazon. It was just poor quality.
ive only bent cables doing stupid stuff with my phone but id rather have to buy a new cable than a new phone.

I've only bent cables having other people do stupid stuff with my tablets. And I can totally see someone grabbing a keyboard or knocking one off a desk and saying "oops!"

- Ron | samwisekoi

rknize · « **Reply #205 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 18:51:25 »

Micro USB is a much better design than mini in most technical respects. Phones (at least at my company) switched long before space was the primary concern. Mini is much more prone to break the socket than the connector.

TheQsanity · « **Reply #206 on:** Mon, 21 January 2013, 20:50:34 »

Quote from: rknize on Mon, 21 January 2013, 18:51:25

Micro USB is a much better design than mini in most technical respects. Phones (at least at my company) switched long before space was the primary concern. Mini is much more prone to break the socket than the connector.

Does sure seem like it.

MattBuzzy · « **Reply #207 on:** Tue, 22 January 2013, 08:09:06 »

Wow, a crazy project indeed but looking very interesting. Good luck with it!

Viz · « **Reply #208 on:** Mon, 28 January 2013, 12:50:41 »

Hmm, is the project stalled? :?

kmiller8 · « **Reply #209 on:** Mon, 28 January 2013, 13:58:08 »

Quote from: Viz on Mon, 28 January 2013, 12:50:41

Hmm, is the project stalled? :?

Kind of, I just started school and it was a bit more jarring than expected so I'm hoping I'll be able to pick it back up again sometime early February and get it done ASAP.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #210 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 09:20:26 »

I WANT 40% BOARD NAO!!11!!

T00 M4NY 60% b04|2Dz C0m1Ng t0 t3H m4|2K3t na0 4Nd i w0n'7 f33L 1337 uN13sS i h4Z 40% b04|2d...

Alessandro · « **Reply #211 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 09:24:49 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 February 2013, 09:20:26

I WANT 40% BOARD NAO!!11!!

T00 M4NY 60% b04|2Dz C0m1Ng t0 t3H m4|2K3t na0 4Nd i w0n'7 f33L 1337 uN13sS i h4Z 40% b04|2d...

That's no way to rush the poor guy!

jdcarpe · « **Reply #212 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 09:27:54 »

I know. This is a really fun project, and I just want Kirk to know we haven't forgotten about it or lost excitement.

Still excited here!!

Strelok · « **Reply #213 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 13:48:42 »

I am excited for this project. The only thing I'm worried about is the board loosing the signature shape of a keyboard. 75% boards are too square. 60% boards look right. This one may be too square.

jdcarpe · « **Reply #214 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 14:31:41 »

Quote from: Strelok on Wed, 13 February 2013, 13:48:42

I am excited for this project. The only thing I'm worried about is the board loosing the signature shape of a keyboard. 75% boards are too square. 60% boards look right. This one may be too square.

It no look square to me...

gnubag · « **Reply #215 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 14:56:39 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 February 2013, 14:31:41

Quote from: Strelok on Wed, 13 February 2013, 13:48:42
I am excited for this project. The only thing I'm worried about is the board loosing the signature shape of a keyboard. 75% boards are too square. 60% boards look right. This one may be too square.

It no look square to me...

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shouldn't this be stabilizer less? (Where we're going... we don't need stabilizers)
how about a split spacebar then?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #216 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 15:01:28 »

There are several layout possibilities. Some of us wanted a standard spacebar. kmiller8's original design uses 1.25 mods for the entire bottom row.

alaricljs · « **Reply #217 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 15:01:46 »

jd likes his space bar... that's juust one of a bazillion layouts (most of which have a silly number of switches on the bottom row)

jdcarpe · « **Reply #218 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 15:06:04 »

Yeah, I asked about using a WYSE 10-unit spacebar, with 1-unit keys on each end, but he wouldn't go for it.

gnubag · « **Reply #219 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 15:36:56 »

well if there is a platee option you can still make a 10u spacebar, but also make a split spacebar layout.

danielucf · « **Reply #220 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 18:39:06 »

I think a 10 unit spacebar would be awesome, I support your goals jdcarpe. I think I have two 10x spacebars sitting around, I'd donate one to kmiller8 if it might help persuade him

jdcarpe · « **Reply #221 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 18:52:04 »

I have LOTS of them. I mean like 12.

danielucf · « **Reply #222 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 19:00:31 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 February 2013, 18:52:04

I have LOTS of them. I mean like 12.

Ok then are vintage blacks the best blacks, or blacks with 65g Korean springs?

Acetrak · « **Reply #223 on:** Wed, 13 February 2013, 19:02:35 »

Why not vintage black with 65g springs?

Strelok · « **Reply #224 on:** Fri, 15 February 2013, 00:41:35 »

I vote we call it the Stealth and put the quietest switches we can find in it, which are probably those new Matias ALPS, or at least reds with landing pads.

epicsilas · « **Reply #225 on:** Fri, 15 February 2013, 00:45:50 »

Quote from: danielucf on Wed, 13 February 2013, 18:39:06

I think a 10 unit spacebar would be awesome, I support your goals jdcarpe. I think I have two 10x spacebars sitting around, I'd donate one to kmiller8 if it might help persuade him

I too support the 10 unit spacebar!

inteli722 · « **Reply #226 on:** Fri, 15 February 2013, 06:29:29 »

Quote from: Acetrak on Wed, 13 February 2013, 19:02:35

Why not vintage black with 65g springs?

Why not vintage blacks with 45g springs?

TheQsanity · « **Reply #227 on:** Wed, 27 March 2013, 23:09:36 »

Did we give up on this?

kmiller8 · « **Reply #228 on:** Thu, 02 May 2013, 01:48:07 »

Quote from: TheQsanity on Wed, 27 March 2013, 23:09:36

Did we give up on this?

Got busy with ****. School ends next week. Then free time.

I promise to have this done (or at least prototyped to **** and back) by the end of summer :3

phetto · « **Reply #229 on:** Thu, 02 May 2013, 02:17:06 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 13 February 2013, 09:20:26

T00 M4NY 60% b04|2Dz C0m1Ng t0 t3H m4|2K3t na0 4Nd i w0n'7 f33L 1337 uN13sS i h4Z 40% b04|2d...

^ Hahahah

where do we stand on this?

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #230 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22 »

#40%forthemassesplease!

wiredPANDA · « **Reply #231 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:30:50 »

Always makes my day when I see an update in this thread.

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22

#40%forthemassesplease!

Can't agree more!

jdcarpe · « **Reply #232 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:40:30 »

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22

#40%forthemassesplease!

Look for more info on this once the GH60s have shipped. Oh, I also have that Alps TKL board project. Hmmm, I've got quite a few irons in the fire, huh?

esoomenona · « **Reply #233 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:45:00 »

I like to stick my iron in the fire...

The_Beast · « **Reply #234 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:48:41 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:40:30

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22
#40%forthemassesplease!

Look for more info on this once the GH60s have shipped. Oh, I also have that Alps TKL board project. Hmmm, I've got quite a few irons in the fire, huh?

Why wait for the Gh60 to ship? Did you not get the packi I sent you?

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #235 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:57:58 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:40:30

Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22
#40%forthemassesplease!

Look for more info on this once the GH60s have shipped. Oh, I also have that Alps TKL board project. Hmmm, I've got quite a few irons in the fire, huh?

I'm in for an ALPS board and a 40% board.

It's probably crazy but I want a 40%-ish board to make a simplified board for my kid!

wiredPANDA · « **Reply #236 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:24:33 »

I just want a 40% board.

Though now that you mention it -- making one for my kid would be cool, too. Damn - now I need at least two.

Tarzan · « **Reply #237 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 11:53:45 »

Interested. Alps plus...?

jdcarpe · « **Reply #238 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:47:21 »

Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:48:41

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:40:30
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22
#40%forthemassesplease!

Look for more info on this once the GH60s have shipped. Oh, I also have that Alps TKL board project. Hmmm, I've got quite a few irons in the fire, huh?

Why wait for the Gh60 to ship? Did you not get the packi I sent you?

Oh, yes I got it in the mail yesterday. And I will have my personal project complete soon-ish. But Ray asked for it for the masses. So that will take a little while.

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #239 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:49:36 »

Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 12:47:21

Quote from: The_Beast on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:48:41
Quote from: jdcarpe on Wed, 31 July 2013, 10:40:30
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Wed, 31 July 2013, 09:45:22
#40%forthemassesplease!

Look for more info on this once the GH60s have shipped. Oh, I also have that Alps TKL board project. Hmmm, I've got quite a few irons in the fire, huh?

Why wait for the Gh60 to ship? Did you not get the packi I sent you?

Oh, yes I got it in the mail yesterday. And I will have my personal project complete soon-ish. But Ray asked for it for the masses. So that will take a little while.

I'll take one just for me instead! (The masses can wait

)

Tarzan · « **Reply #240 on:** Wed, 31 July 2013, 13:06:34 »

One version of a production sub-60% model:

I actually like the 8x spacebar on this layout, and I have several 10x spacebars I was planning to use on GH60 builds. Watching this thread with interest!

oaklandishh · « **Reply #241 on:** Tue, 13 August 2013, 03:33:13 »

These look awesome. I would love to make one of these from scratch.

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Author Topic: kmiller8's 40% Board (Where we're going... we don't need stabilizers) (Read 47302 times)