[GB] GMK Red & Blue Samurai (GB Closed)

[RedSuns]

GMK Red Samurai 2




Group Buy: June 12, 2020 - June 30, 2020

Where to Pre-Order:

Drop.com - GMK Red Samurai

Estimated ship date: July 2021

Drop.com - GMK Blue Samurai

Estimated ship date: July 2021

More info here: https://drop.com/talk/63324/pre-order-status-update-thread




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[iamtootallforthis]

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[oldcat]

Very nice!

[Exanova]

Nice!

[dvorcol]

[Jaxxstatic]

The base kits are so freaking good. In for Red Samurai.
I honestly just noticed what the texts say in the text novelty kit. Gonna go back and pick that up for "Shinigami."

[depletedvespene]

GLWGB! My only doubt is whether to buy the text novelties kit with the Red Samurai base kit or with the Blue Samurai kit. 

(I still think a blue/red space bars kit would have been a good idea)

[dvorcol]

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[Coneree]

Why does Red have more keys in the novelties kit but it's at the same price point as blue?

[baysic]

Why does Red have more keys in the novelties kit but it's at the same price point as blue?

2nd run, so ppl from first run that didn't get novelties probably come back and buy.
Drop also still selling RedSamurai 1 in TKL kit, so those TKL guys prob gonna get their novels too.

[Oddstag]

Maybe we're past this point, but is there any chance of a 3rd 1u R4 novelty on the red kit, like the blue kit? I'm team red but this won't cover layouts with 3 1u mods like the NK65.

[ymaaan]

I know it's way too early to ask, but is there any chance of this having extras when all of the preorders have been shipped, specifically the novelties kit? Really want to snag one but can't due to financial problems. Thanks for answering!

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[malsyned]

I'm strongly considering this set. I have some questions, two for the thread starter and another to everybody.

To the thread starter: Can you confirm that the 2.25u and 2.75u space bars are convex? Is there a Discord for this GB?

To everybody: My design calls for two 2.25u or two 2.75u convex space bars and I'd like them both to be red. I imagine a lot of people buying the base kit won't wind up using those shorter space bars. Anybody interested in selling me their surplus short space bars? (this is make-or-break for me joining this GB)

Thanks for this awesome looking set!

[dvorcol]

I'm strongly considering this set. I have some questions, two for the thread starter and another to everybody.

To the thread starter: Can you confirm that the 2.25u and 2.75u space bars are convex? Is there a Discord for this GB?

To everybody: My design calls for two 2.25u or two 2.75u convex space bars and I'd like them both to be red. I imagine a lot of people buying the base kit won't wind up using those shorter space bars. Anybody interested in selling me their surplus short space bars? (this is make-or-break for me joining this GB)

Thanks for this awesome looking set!

The Base kit image in this OP marks these two as convex.  I'm not sure why Drop's kit images have no markings, but I can't imagine these markings being wrong.  Especially since Drop owns Geekhack.
 

[RedSuns]

I'm strongly considering this set. I have some questions, two for the thread starter and another to everybody.

To the thread starter: Can you confirm that the 2.25u and 2.75u space bars are convex? Is there a Discord for this GB?

To everybody: My design calls for two 2.25u or two 2.75u convex space bars and I'd like them both to be red. I imagine a lot of people buying the base kit won't wind up using those shorter space bars. Anybody interested in selling me their surplus short space bars? (this is make-or-break for me joining this GB)

Thanks for this awesome looking set!

The spacebars are convex as dvorcol mentioned. No Discord needed, you can comment here.

[lamp]

yess the wait is over

[malsyned]

I'm strongly considering this set. I have some questions, two for the thread starter and another to everybody.

To the thread starter: Can you confirm that the 2.25u and 2.75u space bars are convex? Is there a Discord for this GB?

To everybody: My design calls for two 2.25u or two 2.75u convex space bars and I'd like them both to be red. I imagine a lot of people buying the base kit won't wind up using those shorter space bars. Anybody interested in selling me their surplus short space bars? (this is make-or-break for me joining this GB)

Thanks for this awesome looking set!

The spacebars are convex as dvorcol mentioned. No Discord needed, you can comment here.

Awesome, thanks! My design changed a little bit and I don't need the duplicate space bars anymore, so I'm definitely in for this.

[dvorcol]

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[GSPADE]

wow, these are great

[malsyned]

I want to do as faithful a mock-up of the design I'm doing around the Red Samurai, do you have RGB values or some other precise specification for the red, yellow, and grey you've used?

[dvorcol]

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[dvorcol]

I want to do as faithful a mock-up of the design I'm doing around the Red Samurai, do you have RGB values or some other precise specification for the red, yellow, and grey you've used?

RedSuns shared colors in a Drop post.

Red Samurai: Pantone 7421 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C
Blue Samurai: Pantone 540 C, Pantone 426 C, Pantone 465 C

[malsyned]

Is the stem centered or off-center on the stepped Caps Lock and Control keys?

[RedSuns]

Is the stem centered or off-center on the stepped Caps Lock and Control keys?

The stepped keys are off-centered.

[hrco999]

Any plans on R2/Extras on the Blue Samurai? Entered the hobby slightly late

[clik_clak]

Any plans on R2/Extras on the Blue Samurai? Entered the hobby slightly late

Drop always has extras, but they won't be till after the GB is over and everything has shipped and most likely until they have one of their RE-cap events. I wouldn't expect that until next year sometime.

[poeharl]

If anyone is interested in separating 2x of their 1.5 size novelty caps (text or not) of the red's, hit me up with a price!
Also would consider 3x 1u size novelty caps.

I have the base 65% I plan to throw on a discipline v2, however I dont want a gap.

MechKeyboard#9198 discord

[hottrout]

Would anyone be prepared to sell me the following from their Red Samurai set?

Numpad keys, all of them
ISO Enter
R4 - 1.25 SHIFT
R4 - Backslash Key

[depletedvespene]

If anyone is interested in separating 2x of their 1.5 size novelty caps (text or not) of the red's, hit me up with a price!
Also would consider 3x 1u size novelty caps.

I have the base 65% I plan to throw on a discipline v2, however I dont want a gap.

MechKeyboard#9198 discord

Are you willing to trade your split space bars for the novelties? (if so, we can arrange a trade)

[redjarojam]

Anyone have a spare 6.25 yellow spacebar?

[malsyned]

I'm realizing I want to thank you for making a set that has Super, Hyper, *and* Fn keys in the base set. In the custom layout I'm building, Super and Hyper are mapped to GUI and Menu, and Fn is activating a QMK layer. I'm really surprised that more designers don't accomodate this use case. It's pretty much standard on laptop keyboards and can be useful on desktop keyboards, too.

(my layout: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/487881a05042666e9531e690576ecfff)

[RedSuns]

Shipping delayed update.

[hottrout]

Will there be any spares sets?

[malsyned]

Shipping delayed update.

Drop's post on their site says the same thing that you do, that Red Samurai is now expected to ship in November. However, I got an email from Drop yesterday that says:

"The new estimated ship date for GMK Red Samurai is February 2021"

Do you have any clarity on this? My guess is that someone at Drop screwed up and sent an email with the Blue Samurai date to people with Red Samurai orders, but I'd like to check that guess with someone in the know.

[malsyned]

OK, I got a response to my question on Drop's forums about when the Red Samurai set will ship, and it contradicts the "November 2020" estimate in the OP edit. Here's what Kevin from Drop says:

Okay, the older Red Samurai kits are expected to ship end of November.  That's this product here:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set

The newer Red Samurai "custom" kits are expected to ship in February 2021.  That's this product here:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-custom-keycap-set

(source: https://drop.com/talk/54185/gmk-keycap-shipment-delays/2716660)

But he also says:

I think our internal docs are poorly specified so our CS people and other people (myself included) have/are getting confused.

RedSuns, can you talk to Drop and GMK, figure out what the truth is, and make sure everyone's on the same page?

[dvorcol]

OK, I got a response to my question on Drop's forums about when the Red Samurai set will ship, and it contradicts the "November 2020" estimate in the OP edit. Here's what Kevin from Drop says:

Okay, the older Red Samurai kits are expected to ship end of November.  That's this product here:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set

The newer Red Samurai "custom" kits are expected to ship in February 2021.  That's this product here:
https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-custom-keycap-set

(source: https://drop.com/talk/54185/gmk-keycap-shipment-delays/2716660)

But he also says:

I think our internal docs are poorly specified so our CS people and other people (myself included) have/are getting confused.

RedSuns, can you talk to Drop and GMK, figure out what the truth is, and make sure everyone's on the same page?

There have been two GMK Red Samurai group buys.  Separately, "semi-production" sets have been on sale since June 2020.  The shipping answer depends on whether you bought kits from the second GB, or from the "semi-production" set.

The second GB ran June 12-30, 2020. These are the kits that are currently expected to ship in February 2021.  Drop's second GB page - https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-custom-keycap-set

Drop's "semi-production" version of GMK Red Suns has a variety of full-keyboard kits.  It was running during the second GB - causing some confusion - and is currently labeled to end October 30.  A standard GB doesn't run for five months.  And it might go live again, depending on popularity.  Drop's "semi-production" page - https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set

Just to be complete, Red Sun's first GB ended February 28, 2018.  Those kits have already been delivered.  Drop's first GB page - https://drop.com/buy/massdrop-x-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-keycap-set

[malsyned]

The second GB ran June 12-30, 2020. These are the kits that are currently expected to ship in February 2021.  Drop's second GB page - https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-custom-keycap-set

That's a pretty clear statement of the situation, I appreciate it.

This thread is specifically for the second GB that ran in late June, though. If that's shipping Feb 2021, as you say, then the update that RedSuns made to the initial post is incorrect -- it says "November 2020" but it should say "February 2021", same as for Blue Samurai.

[dvorcol]

The second GB ran June 12-30, 2020. These are the kits that are currently expected to ship in February 2021.  Drop's second GB page - https://drop.com/buy/drop-redsuns-gmk-red-samurai-custom-keycap-set

That's a pretty clear statement of the situation, I appreciate it.

This thread is specifically for the second GB that ran in late June, though. If that's shipping Feb 2021, as you say, then the update that RedSuns made to the initial post is incorrect -- it says "November 2020" but it should say "February 2021", same as for Blue Samurai.

November is for the “semi-production” older sets.  February is for the second GB.  According to Drop.

[malsyned]

November is for the “semi-production” older sets.  February is for the second GB.  According to Drop.

I understand that. I'm asking RedSuns to fix the initial post in the thread, because right now it says:

Drop.com - GMK Red Samurai

Estimated ship date: Oct 26, 2020 PT.  November 2020

His link is to the 2nd GB, but his Estimated ship date is for the "semi-production" older sets.

(I'm also secretly hoping that both you and Drop are wrong, and RedSuns knows better, but I recognize that is a long shot.)

[dvorcol]

November is for the “semi-production” older sets.  February is for the second GB.  According to Drop.

I understand that. I'm asking RedSuns to fix the initial post in the thread, because right now it says:

Drop.com - GMK Red Samurai

Estimated ship date: Oct 26, 2020 PT.  November 2020

His link is to the 2nd GB, but his Estimated ship date is for the "semi-production" older sets.

(I'm also secretly hoping that both you and Drop are wrong, and RedSuns knows better, but I recognize that is a long shot.)

Drop has a GMK set delay summary that makes it pretty clear.  They're calling the second Red Samurai GB "GMK Custom Red Samurai," while the semi-production Red Samurai is called "GMK Red Samurai."  Here's how it currently reads:

GMK Keycap Shipment Delays
posted September 20, 2020

We've recently been informed by our keycap partner, GMK, that the ship dates on all keycap sets have been pushed back due to manufacturing delays that they are experiencing. They've communicated the following estimated ship dates* to us:

GMK White on Black - October 2020
GMK Red Samurai - November 2020
GMK Belafonte - December 2020
GMK Hennessey - December 2020
GMK Godspeed - January 2021
GMK Kaiju - January 2021
GMK Blue Samurai - February 2021
GMK Custom Red Samurai - February 2021
GMK Laser - February 2021

We're obviously very disappointed to hear this news and GMK has assured us that they are doing everything that they can to "catch up" on their schedule. As one of GMK's largest keycap distributors, we have guaranteed manufacturing slots so these delays are less severe for us versus other vendors running group buys. Please note that the above shipping estimates are based on scheduled production capacity, and may be further adjusted based on designer approvals (for example: color matching a specific set could introduce further delays, which would cause the schedule to shift).

GMK will have a community member active in this discussion thread if you have any questions. In the meantime we'll be working on updating all of our users and relevant product runs. We understand this news is disappointing and remind you that as with all of our keycap pre-orders, you can get a refund if you no longer wish to wait.

Thanks for your time and patience, we'll keep posting updates as these schedules firm up.

(Edited by moderator Kevin)

[malsyned]

Drop has a GMK set delay summary that makes it pretty clear.  They're calling the second Red Samurai GB "GMK Custom Red Samurai," while the semi-production Red Samurai is called "GMK Red Samurai."

I know about that post on Drop. It didn't used to list "Red Samurai" and "Custom Red Samurai" separately -- they actually edited it after I asked about the discrepancy between what the post originally said and what an email I got from them said. You can see Kevin's response to me here: https://drop.com/talk/54185/gmk-keycap-shipment-delays/2716335

I understand that that is what Drop is saying. I'm asking RedSuns if he knows differently, since he's saying something different than what Drop is saying -- and if not, I'm asking him to edit his post so that anyone else checking this thread will see correct information about the ETA of the 2nd GB.

[Scriba]

will there be another drop in the future with Norde kit and other ortho spacebar colors (there is only gold)?

[dvorcol]

Update to Drop's estimated timing: GMK will ship to Drop in March 2021.

Presumably there will then be shipping time before Drop receives them, processing time before Drop ships orders out, and shipping time before they reach customers.

[dvorcol]

Drop just started a pre-order status update thread.

The latest info might be here - https://drop.com/talk/63324/pre-order-status-update-thread?mode=guest_open

[kolyz]

Drop just started a pre-order status update thread.

The latest info might be here - https://drop.com/talk/63324/pre-order-status-update-thread?mode=guest_open

thanks for this!

[phoenixrage]

I hope for a proper re-release, don't quite like being set to the smaller kits that fit drop only keyboards.  Would like at least some proper base kits.