P.S.: how does Granite cover these colors? It's a light set, as opposed to this one, which is dark. Maybe you meant Dolch?
Please make Chalk Modifiers too ...
Btw, I think it's better if there is more than just blue legend in Ctrl Row
I like it, but try to work more of that purple in there!
#1 Added Spacebar to Oblivion kit
#2 Changed WIN keys to the Orange-Red shade, wasn't too happy with Purple there and both Purple and Orange-Red as shown in my previous reply was too busy. Git Kit colors have been adjusted accordingly,the examples haven't yet though.
#3 Made PULL the WIN equivalent in the Git Kit, with FORK and FETCH now being the two options for the MENU key
#4 Added an image for the currently selected ABS color chips from Signature PlasticsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/RQ8D97r.png)
@Oblotzky: GMK kets would be nice, but, it would be lower than the oem keyset on your Filco I'd say.
Especially if it's 104, like these in the link: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-nkr-tactile-action-usa-keyboard.asp
Edit: not necessary a bad thing to prefer a lower typing height.
Please make Chalk Modifiers too ...
I can see the appeal in that, but I feel it would deviate from the initial set too much. I would like to keep the number of sets down. Will do mock ups for both colored and monochrome tomorrow though (lets hope it won't look too pretty or else we will have to keep it :)) )
@Oblotzky: GMK kets would be nice, but, it would be lower than the oem keyset on your Filco I'd say.
Especially if it's 104, like these in the link: http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/filco-majestouch-2-nkr-tactile-action-usa-keyboard.asp
Edit: not necessary a bad thing to prefer a lower typing height.
I'm not too concerned with that, but thanks for pointing it out! I own the Filco Majestouch 2 Ninja in ANSI layout myself, you were closePlease make Chalk Modifiers too ...
I can see the appeal in that, but I feel it would deviate from the initial set too much. I would like to keep the number of sets down. Will do mock ups for both colored and monochrome tomorrow though (lets hope it won't look too pretty or else we will have to keep it :)) )
Looks interesting, wish I could just say I'd add it, but MOQ for the original set needs to be met primarily.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/fRJyuYe.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/286d8Uf.png)
#1 Added Spacebar to Oblivion kit
#2 Changed WIN keys to the Orange-Red shade, wasn't too happy with Purple there and both Purple and Orange-Red as shown in my previous reply was too busy. Git Kit colors have been adjusted accordingly,the examples haven't yet though.
#3 Made PULL the WIN equivalent in the Git Kit, with FORK and FETCH now being the two options for the MENU key
#4 Added an image for the currently selected ABS color chips from Signature PlasticsShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/RQ8D97r.png)
GPA looks too dark if refering your render, how about GO/GY/GA?
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Oh man, the git mods will seriously increase my geekness attribute in the workplace.
Some suggestions:
- git logo novelties: https://git-scm.com/downloads/logos ; I prefer the authentic orange on white for Esc R1, and white on dark gray for 1¼/1½ mods. This is also a perfect opportunity for git logo+text in orange on white, though I'm not sure where, maybe for enter key? Logos are covered under CC license, I'm sure SP won't object.
- 1¾U short right shift + tsangan set
- alt layout kits (dvorak, colemak, workman)
- Planck/Preonic & Ergodox kits
Edit: Oh, and I'm tending towards 112343 sculp, would give more reason to run DSA at a later point :))
Edit: Oh, and I'm tending towards 112343 sculp, would give more reason to run DSA at a later point :))
Very disappointed ... Better wait for another set :'(
Git logo as an alternate ESC key is a very good idea, I think I will limit it to ON on GEW colors though as the Git kit will only come in dark even if the Chalk Modifier kit were to be part of the final GB. And the license shouldn't be an issue it seems. However I disagree with using it in combination with text on other modifiers. IMO thats fugly and my biggest beef with GMK sets, they stand out too much and break the uniformity.
Also that reminds me that I should use this opportunity and include a GIT GUD key :rolleyes:
Regarding additional sets, I really need some help here. I know very little about keyboards that go beyond the "standard" stuff such as my own Filco. I think I can't just copy the required keys from other sets like Godspeed or so as I believe they also include some additional variation/text novelties that aren't a must for those layouts. So if someone could guide me to templates for Tsangan/Ergodox/Plancketc that are THE BARE MINIMUM that would really help me, and therefor you guys that need it, out.
Edit: Ergodox and Planck seem pretty forward with the Presets provided in keyboard-layout-editor.com, the Tsangan/Whitefox stuff is still a questionmark for me though.
And your signature reminds me that there should be alternate keys for WIN, such as SUPER/META, but given the context, CODE might be the most appropriate one.
Edit: Oh, and I'm tending towards 112343 sculp, would give more reason to run DSA at a later point :))
Edit: Oh, and I'm tending towards 112343 sculp, would give more reason to run DSA at a later point :))
Yea I would love to buy but I need a tsangan kit for a HHKB layout. also stepped caps and stepped ctrl please! 1u pipe/backslash
x2 1u alt
1u FN
1u pipe/backslash
x2 1.5u WIN
1.5u delete key
1.75u shift,
1.75u stepped CTRL
7u spacebar
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Someone tell me if i missed anything.
neat set, I'd get it if it were DSA profile... DSA PBT even better
neat set, I'd get it if it were DSA profile... DSA PBT even better
PBT = Dye Sub = Can't do lighter legend than base color
That's why Hana or Dolch is ABS Double Shot
I like the idea, I know that similar things have been long brewing for GMK, for example, Sheraton's new Sky Dolch Modifiers gets close to the uniquely coloured modifiers concept
My .02
1) No Cmd/Meta/Super like keycaps = :(
2) Maybe stick to the core ideals of your set, drop monochrome, and instead add various assorted modifiers instead - If someone is looking for double-coloured modifiers, there are other options
2-a) Or double-down on monochrome, add various modifiers for various usages
3) Coloured arrows could be interesting too
The Git modifiers are super cool, I personally wouldn't use them tho
Another personal opinion, while GMK/Cherry is best, DSA > SA for coding for me, SA looks great, but it's super tall
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Honest opinion, while the set is OSX-hostile, "Chalk, Oblivion, Git" combo could be a big-hit in SA, for coders without OCD - tho it's awfully similar to SA Penumbra
Never used SA and I'm pretty skeptical of it but this is gorgeous!
I usualy use Monokai (I think thats what it's called) in all my text editors but I think I might be changing now :p
One change I would like to see though, would be keeping the bottom row legends white rather than red and blue, similar to how penumbra was designed, not a big deal though.
Great stuff!
I really like the muted look here.
Would be interested if it came to be.
One suggestion as a person who uses a standalone numpad: a standalone numpad kit (or, considering the different color themes being worked on, multiple kits as was done with DSA Deep Space) with the extra caps to suit external numpads.
... for example, it'd need ESC, TAB, BACKSPACE, = (equals), 00, 1x 0, ..1x + (plus)
so it can work on the Keycool 22, Leopold 210TP, Cherry G80-3700, Goldtouch numpad, etc..
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1800 profile please : D
I like the idea, I know that similar things have been long brewing for GMK, for example, Sheraton's new Sky Dolch Modifiers gets close to the uniquely coloured modifiers concept
My .02
1) No Cmd/Meta/Super like keycaps = :(
2) Maybe stick to the core ideals of your set, drop monochrome, and instead add various assorted modifiers instead - If someone is looking for double-coloured modifiers, there are other options
2-a) Or double-down on monochrome, add various modifiers for various usages
3) Coloured arrows could be interesting too
The Git modifiers are super cool, I personally wouldn't use them tho
Another personal opinion, while GMK/Cherry is best, DSA > SA for coding for me, SA looks great, but it's super tall
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Honest opinion, while the set is OSX-hostile, "Chalk, Oblivion, Git" combo could be a big-hit in SA, for coders without OCD - tho it's awfully similar to SA Penumbra
#1 Was mentioned before and has now been addressed
#2 The only other monochrome SA sets I can think of are Ice Cap and Soldier 88
#2.1 examples?
#3 A colored arrow pack is not a terrible idea, though it would result in a set of 20 keys of which only 20% would be used at a time (each color being a kit would be horrible for MOQ and pricing), will post that later tonight
#4 an OSX pack could be added
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Jeez... stop using for loops.Code: [Select]public static void Initialize()
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Sprites.cursor = Sprits.CreateSprite("cursor", DrawAlignment.TopLeft);
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For #2, I think we are talking about different things, I was referring to regular 2-color keycap sets, with different alpha/modifier colouring, as a direct comparison, the DT "Round"'s (7bit's) are very similar - not very important tho - since the "Round"'s aren't sadly mainstream
For #2-#2.1 - I think this is a good example, https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro, Matt3o does a great job at covering alternatives
When the IC matures, I might add more concrete opinions, not going to dilute the conversations right now
Edit: One thing tho, for a set aimed at programmers, 1.75 CapsLock is super useless, it would be nice to at least have the 1.75 CONTROL and 1.75 Stepped CTRL
Colours are too complicated for me, but with the direction this IC is heading, I would join for the alphas and the monochrome option (and arrows at least)
I wasn't looking for code review, but lets see what you got here...
#1 var? This isn't JavaScript
#2 You have successfully increased the required time to execute the operation from 26ms to 40ms. Congratulations. Hint: LINQ sucks when it comes to performance.
#3 The code appears less readable to me.
I'll pass.
For #2, I think we are talking about different things, I was referring to regular 2-color keycap sets, with different alpha/modifier colouring, as a direct comparison, the DT "Round"'s (7bit's) are very similar - not very important tho - since the "Round"'s aren't sadly mainstream
For #2-#2.1 - I think this is a good example, https://ctrlalt.io/buys/sa-retro, Matt3o does a great job at covering alternatives
When the IC matures, I might add more concrete opinions, not going to dilute the conversations right now
Edit: One thing tho, for a set aimed at programmers, 1.75 CapsLock is super useless, it would be nice to at least have the 1.75 CONTROL and 1.75 Stepped CTRL
Colours are too complicated for me, but with the direction this IC is heading, I would join for the alphas and the monochrome option (and arrows at least)
#2.1 I will look into it, thanks
Regarding CapsLock alternatives, Seeing how many other sets include a 1.75u CONTROL key I will add that one now. I do not quite understand the stepped CTRL key though, I assume it is purely for the aesthetic some prefer? Or does the physical form have a use like homing keys.
I wasn't looking for code review, but lets see what you got here...
#1 var? This isn't JavaScript
#2 You have successfully increased the required time to execute the operation from 26ms to 40ms. Congratulations. Hint: LINQ sucks when it comes to performance.
#3 The code appears less readable to me.
I'll pass.
- You're right... it's not javascript. 'var' allows quicker refactoring and is just syntactic sugar. It has no run time effect.
- I wouldn't be so quick to blame linq here, it probably has more to do with how you are not using 'Dispose' correctly. You should either use 'using' or put your Dispose in a 'finally' block.
- You're obviously not comfortable with lambdas if you think this is less readable. It certainly is easier to read for C# developers.
**Edit:
Quick little demo to show you how wrong you are: http://pastebin.com/VfZYgcPZ
not sure if these have already been mentioned or are planned, but the original post is missing some important compatibility kits, namely Tsangan (winkeyless), HHKB (split backspace, split right shift, etc.), and ISO.
No love for 40% boards? Being a web developer, I would love if this set was compatible with my MiniVan.
Overall though, I love it. I really like the colors you've selected, expecially for the git set. I haven't tried GMK/SA profiles so I have no comments there.
I really hope so, I'd be all over this.No love for 40% boards? Being a web developer, I would love if this set was compatible with my MiniVan.
Overall though, I love it. I really like the colors you've selected, expecially for the git set. I haven't tried GMK/SA profiles so I have no comments there.
I would assume 40% is in the works - Oblotzky mentioned he is working on child kits such as Tsafox, 1800, Colemak and the likes, 40% is so popular nowadays I'm sure it'll come up.
since it's for programmer, can you please make the color of ; key more specialLOL or remove the legend from the key since we're always hunting for the missing ;
Since you split the TKL kit into alphas with two colors, I think the numpad should be split as well.
BTW, I do love this set!!
But instead of creating two Numpad kits for each Quarry and Chalk, I have kept them together for the following reasons
#1 The dark non-numbers keys would be duplicates for people double dipping on both Quarry and Chalk, which I think won't be too few
#2 MOQ. Imagine we had two kits, each get 50 orders and cost 30$ then. If we instead put the kits together, lose the 11 duplicate keys and now have an MOQ of 100, the set would remain around 30$.
333333 plaese! what about preoinc and atomic users? :)
No love for 40% boards? Being a web developer, I would love if this set was compatible with my MiniVan.
For me it's no need to make the color mirrorred (left and right mods) since the code itself looksscatteredchaosly ordered in nature. I prefer each color represent an action, example: blue for navigation (arrow, page up/down), red for decision (enter, delete, escape), green for modifier (ctrl, alt, meta, command), etc. This way I think the set will look more meaningfull.
is it possible to get 2.75u blanks? (split space custom)If this set had an option for 2 space-bar row blanks, I'd be in love. :D
Text on the ergodox Please!! with that im IN!
the set is missing a SHIFT 1.75 fo 96 layout users. Please modify!
I'm more excited about this IC than any others.
is it possible to get 2.75u blanks? (split space custom)If this set had an option for 2 space-bar row blanks, I'd be in love. :D
1-1-2-3-4-3 or bust.Concur. If it's uniform R3, I'm out.
Support for 1800 lauyout please. ;D
Support for 1800 lauyout please. ;DNot a bad idea.
TODO:
- Sleep
- Decide on profile
- Create specialties kits such as ISO, Tsangan/Whitefox, 1800, Dvorak/Colemak. All these will be done AFTER the profile has been decided. (Planck will probably be changed a little aswell depending on the row profile chosen)
- /query SP
- ?
- Profit
I find the use of a non-existing x86-64 assembly instruction rather boorish. Especially considering that the less than mediocre television show it pays a tribute to, is completely irrelevant to this project.
The plank kit is too simplified and please add more keys. The average price for this kit is around $20 with couple of layouts support, if the price is what you have concerns here.Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161016/7c6a6e1209dcc429ab30c81c61b76d12.jpg)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161016/b2368c6ca5521fd71d6eda765bad1ecd.png)Show Image(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161016/513bbf1c9974346a5ffa64f54f251c3a.jpg)
The Planck kit from Pulse does exactly what I'm trying to avoid, add many many keys to hopefully cover everyones layout. While I have opted for different legends that don't actually reflect the key's purpose so you can bind whatever you want to them, it will always make equal sense. Chocolatier and Jukebox cover more than just Planck, it would become a 40% set, in which case Assembly legends aren't appropriate anymore.
Love the idea of this set. Should the Oblivion set have a 1.75 R4 Shift for most 60% keyboards?This will be included since he is working with the adapter kit, no worries.
2u Enter and 2u Shift would be all that's needed to support Atomic in the Planck/OLKB kit if you were so inclined. ;)
2u Enter and 2u Shift would be all that's needed to support Atomic in the Planck/OLKB kit if you were so inclined. ;)
What rows?
I saw some minor differences in the Tsafox kits of Chocolatier and Godspeed which I mainly used as a reference, Godspeed had 2 more keys in R3 while Chocolatier had 2 more 1u keys. The ones Godspeed had additionally might be the ones you are looking for.
alright so base + assembly + git will give me 2x 2.75 that don't say "shift" right? ;)
The reason to offer spacebar child kits is so that customers can buy extra spacebars. These are ABS after all, and having replacements is desired by many.
However, in this case it isn't terribly necessary since SP sells individual spacebars in both GD and WFK from their webstore.
Correct, the one from Git says PUSH, the one from the now called API kit is blank. Although the one from API is either Quarry or Hagoromo colored now, as that's intended to be a spacebar for Sebright
Correct, the one from Git says PUSH, the one from the now called API kit is blank. Although the one from API is either Quarry or Hagoromo colored now, as that's intended to be a spacebar for Sebright
so close... ಥ_ಥ
New overview of Kits, International and UK coming very soon, no worries. Once those are done, and no changes need to be done to any of the three specialties kits, I guess that's it?
New overview of Kits, International and UK coming very soon, no worries. Once those are done, and no changes need to be done to any of the three specialties kits, I guess that's it?
I'm just now realizing how much money this set is going to cost me.
New overview of Kits, International and UK coming very soon, no worries. Once those are done, and no changes need to be done to any of the three specialties kits, I guess that's it?
Big images for individual kits in the first post updated.
Edit: Oh yeah, I'm not sure if Ergodox people want R3 or R4 below the alphas :rolleyes: http://www.strawpoll.me/11458621 another Strawpoll I guess.Show Image(https://s16.postimg.org/5qsxadqlv/sa_oblivion_halfsize.png)
What board are you trying to cover?
I guess there's no chance of a Colemak/Dvorak set for the White Alphas?
What board are you trying to cover?
This: http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/ff3374e064770867929c23c6e186fdb2
Good and bad news. I've decided to go back to the dark modifier color for the spacebars, it doesn't look as good having such a tiny break of the color of the bottom row with spacebars that small. Bad news, the 2.75u keys from the regular Modifier packs are Row4 profile, and you need 2x Row3. Do you know of any other boards that have 2x2.75u in the bottom row to warrant the addition of a secondary one to the kit? Since I'm kicking off half the spacebars with the change back to the dark color I can add a few keys, such as the 3u for Filco Minila as requested earlier.
Good and bad news. I've decided to go back to the dark modifier color for the spacebars, it doesn't look as good having such a tiny break of the color of the bottom row with spacebars that small. Bad news, the 2.75u keys from the regular Modifier packs are Row4 profile, and you need 2x Row3. Do you know of any other boards that have 2x2.75u in the bottom row to warrant the addition of a secondary one to the kit? Since I'm kicking off half the spacebars with the change back to the dark color I can add a few keys, such as the 3u for Filco Minila as requested earlier.
Essentially what I need are extra 2.75u's - as long as they don't say SHIFT on it its all okay - additional modifiers could be blank or maybe you pack a 2.75u in another mod pack...?
Only other addition for me would be a 1.25u row 2 tab for JD45 / JD40 keyboards. I haven't seen any sculptured sets with one of those yet, so maybe it would be worth considering looking at typical JD40/45 layouts.
Either way I will definitely be in this when it goes up for sale.
The LEA key is 1.25, R3 profile. JD40/JD45 is 2-3-4-3 with this set, and all their keys in R2 are 1u. I think you confused row number and row profile.
You do realize the importance of row profile don't you? Because technically, you would have two 2.75u's as it stands, just that one is Row4 and the other is Row3.
You do realize the importance of row profile don't you? Because technically, you would have two 2.75u's as it stands, just that one is Row4 and the other is Row3.
Yeah I get that but I flip them anyway and there is essentially no better alternative unless you want to produce 2.75u for row4 which is probably very rare. I think someone mentioned there is a split space keyboard thats fairly common that has 2x2.75u on row4 but i cant remember which one. either way since nobody else complains I'm perfectly happy if I can get two row3 or two row4 or one row3 and one row4 as long as it fits the space... otherwise it would be silly for me to buy that set... but I really like it :)
btw. there were some GBs that added a modifier pack of blanks - hence there was a modifier pack with a blank 2.75u additional to the existing blank 2.75u or not shift labeled shift... those are the best GBs :P
does the API Kit have 3U Spacebars? (aka. Filco MINILA support?)
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oh, almost forgot the MOST IMPORTANT Q: What about the ISO LOVE <3 ?
Last point on the to-to list is ISO :)
that is a very nice set!
would you consider creating a Planck base set? speaking for many Planck users here ;D
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What about international/Colevrak ind Hagoromo colors?
What about international/Colevrak ind Hagoromo colors?
I would really like to see this but this could easily result in neither international kit reaching MOQ. Most "popular" SA profile GBs already have a hard time reaching MOQ for their single International kit. If MOQ wasn't an issue with international kits every time, I'd love to see both colors as well.
This, MOQ is our enemy here. I'll investigate if it's doable depending on where the set will be offered but I would not hold my breath.
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What about international/Colevrak ind Hagoromo colors?
I would really like to see this but this could easily result in neither international kit reaching MOQ. Most "popular" SA profile GBs already have a hard time reaching MOQ for their single International kit. If MOQ wasn't an issue with international kits every time, I'd love to see both colors as well.
This, MOQ is our enemy here. I'll investigate if it's doable depending on where the set will be offered but I would not hold my breath.
I might have missed something, but this will not support the 1800 layout anymore?
Hi
Any change of an ISO enter key in monochrome?
I know this might be a pain to work into the set :(
Thanks
Other changes I'm spending my nights sleeping on: Add 1u Row 4 and 3u Row 3 to 40bit to support Minila and adding 3x 1u Row 1 keys for DEL/END/PAGE_DOWN to either TKL or Numpad to support 1800. It's really tough making these calls as it raises price, and after every addition I make, another 2 are mentioned by people. I need to ring the bell at some point and close the kits down.
Also, looking at MassDrop poll, Hagoromo has twice the votes of Quarry. With MOQ being the main enemy of International and Dvorak&Colemak kits, I think it would be best to have those be in the colorway most voted for after all.
Also, looking at MassDrop poll, Hagoromo has twice the votes of Quarry. With MOQ being the main enemy of International and Dvorak&Colemak kits, I think it would be best to have those be in the colorway most voted for after all.
Also, looking at MassDrop poll, Hagoromo has twice the votes of Quarry. With MOQ being the main enemy of International and Dvorak&Colemak kits, I think it would be best to have those be in the colorway most voted for after all.
Also, looking at MassDrop poll, Hagoromo has twice the votes of Quarry. With MOQ being the main enemy of International and Dvorak&Colemak kits, I think it would be best to have those be in the colorway most voted for after all.
Also, looking at MassDrop poll, Hagoromo has twice the votes of Quarry. With MOQ being the main enemy of International and Dvorak&Colemak kits, I think it would be best to have those be in the colorway most voted for after all.
I agree w/ having those child sets match the most popular colorway, but I would also love to have both Quarry and Hagoromo as options for the alphas kits. Seems to be a trend in some of the more recent sets to offer multiple options.
Only International and Dvorak&Colemak need to be decided what color it will be. The other kits are intended to offer both.
Still any chance of this hitting GMK instead??
Also gonna investigate the GIT logo situation, will send an E-Mail to them tomorrow.
This really is a great looking set with the potential to become a true classic.
May I suggest adding an Esc and Enter key in ON color with WFM legends to the Monochrome Regular Modifiers kit.
This would allow for some nice subtle accents for those who like that. Two additional keys shouldn’t affect the price much either. Just my 2 cents.
This really is a great looking set with the potential to become a true classic.
May I suggest adding an Esc and Enter key in ON color with WFM legends to the Monochrome Regular Modifiers kit.
This would allow for some nice subtle accents for those who like that. Two additional keys shouldn’t affect the price much either. Just my 2 cents.
This really is a great looking set with the potential to become a true classic.
May I suggest adding an Esc and Enter key in ON color with WFM legends to the Monochrome Regular Modifiers kit.
This would allow for some nice subtle accents for those who like that. Two additional keys shouldn’t affect the price much either. Just my 2 cents.
Seconded!
It's really the first time I've seen multi-color legend options on an SA keyset aside from Penumbra and not including 7bits Round 7 which will take 2 years to complete.
I would really like to see this make it to GB state. I'm not sure why it hasn't yet though. Seems a real shame MD didn't pick up on it.
It's really the first time I've seen multi-color legend options on an SA keyset aside from Penumbra and not including 7bits Round 7 which will take 2 years to complete.
I would really like to see this make it to GB state. I'm not sure why it hasn't yet though. Seems a real shame MD didn't pick up on it.
It's really the first time I've seen multi-color legend options on an SA keyset aside from Penumbra and not including 7bits Round 7 which will take 2 years to complete.
Things take time :) MD doesn't drop sets right away but spreads them out, they do 1 or 2 sets a month currently from both GMK and SP from what I can tell. The schedule for 2017 is being prepared which I hope Oblivion will be part of. There are other designs that have been floating around longer as well as some re-runs (e.g. SA Carbon Round 2 will happen). It's been exactly two months now since I opened this Interest Check, that's pretty short so far in comparison. Dasher/Dancer is launching in December, 10 months after zslane opened his IC, Chocolatier was 8 months, Godspeed a full year. There is noone who would want this set sooner than I, but in this hobby we have to be very patient!
Thanks for showing your interest :thumb:
I would really like to see this make it to GB state. I'm not sure why it hasn't yet though. Seems a real shame MD didn't pick up on it.
It's really the first time I've seen multi-color legend options on an SA keyset aside from Penumbra and not including 7bits Round 7 which will take 2 years to complete.
Things take time :) MD doesn't drop sets right away but spreads them out, they do 1 or 2 sets a month currently from both GMK and SP from what I can tell. The schedule for 2017 is being prepared which I hope Oblivion will be part of. There are other designs that have been floating around longer as well as some re-runs (e.g. SA Carbon Round 2 will happen). It's been exactly two months now since I opened this Interest Check, that's pretty short so far in comparison. Dasher/Dancer is launching in December, 10 months after zslane opened his IC, Chocolatier was 8 months, Godspeed a full year. There is noone who would want this set sooner than I, but in this hobby we have to be very patient!
Thanks for showing your interest :thumb:
I would really like to see this make it to GB state. I'm not sure why it hasn't yet though. Seems a real shame MD didn't pick up on it.
It's really the first time I've seen multi-color legend options on an SA keyset aside from Penumbra and not including 7bits Round 7 which will take 2 years to complete.
Things take time :) MD doesn't drop sets right away but spreads them out, they do 1 or 2 sets a month currently from both GMK and SP from what I can tell. The schedule for 2017 is being prepared which I hope Oblivion will be part of. There are other designs that have been floating around longer as well as some re-runs (e.g. SA Carbon Round 2 will happen). It's been exactly two months now since I opened this Interest Check, that's pretty short so far in comparison. Dasher/Dancer is launching in December, 10 months after zslane opened his IC, Chocolatier was 8 months, Godspeed a full year. There is noone who would want this set sooner than I, but in this hobby we have to be very patient!
Thanks for showing your interest :thumb:
Thanks for the info. Would it actually just be possible to keep an eye on massdrop once in a while through 2017 or are there are place on massdrop where you can actually see the queue?
Nice renders! Did you make them yourself from scratch?
Project page with renders and stuff, also updated first post. All renders were done by myself.
https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/
Color chips are somewhere stuck in customs in Germany, should have them soon and be able to finalize the colors when seeing them in real life. I switched the blue tone from BBJ to BFJ for now, wanted something less neon, more calm.Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_topangle_2k.png)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_topdown_ortho_2k.png)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_lowside_2k.png)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_numpad_dof_2k.png)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_monochrome_front_2k.png)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_fullsize_doublekeebs_monochrome_quarryfocus_dof_2k.png)
Hmm, I totally had no idea that the color gray is gay :-[ :-[
Hmm, I totally had no idea that the color gray is gay :-[ :-[
Dude, i'm so into gay
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Dasher & Dancer SA is to be delivered in July 2017. I guess we still have a year or two to save up. ;)Signature plastic seriously need to step up their game. This is unacceptable by now.
#2 R1 DEL / END / PAGE DOWN have been added to the TKL to support 1800 and 96key layouts, although I feel it would be more appropriate in the Numpad kit as anyone needing these three keys will also have a Numpad, while not everyone getting the TKL will need these as R1, or am I mistaken? Is there any keyboard that does not have a numpad but needs any of these three keys in R1?It's not necessary, but I do prefer having the R1 DEL for 75%. I like having delete next to backspace :).
#3 ALT GR has been removed from both UK and International sets in favor of change #4.You lost me there. Is there any international (European) layout that will work without AltGr key?
is there any chance we can get minila compatibility ? :3
#3 ALT GR has been removed from both UK and International sets in favor of change #4.You lost me there. Is there any international (European) layout that will work without AltGr key?
Edit: Ah, wait, there are of course the Git keys, Meta and a few more. That'll do I suppose.
is there any chance we can get minila compatibility ? :3
I know this is complex set for ISO, but is there any chance of an ISO enter and shift key with the grey text?
Thanks :)
Or you could just use the regular Alt key, I didn't think the missing two letters would be a big deal, is it? International keys lack tertiary legends as well so it's already incomplete lettering ;)Yes, never mind.
is there any chance we can get minila compatibility ? :3
AFAIK it's the last thing left on my list of things to support, I'll have to look into it again what's needed to support it. I think it was a 3U R3 for space and two 1U keys if added to the 40bit set.
is there any chance we can get minila compatibility ? :3
AFAIK it's the last thing left on my list of things to support, I'll have to look into it again what's needed to support it. I think it was a 3U R3 for space and two 1U keys if added to the 40bit set.
its
r4 1u - shift (1)
r4 1u - del (1)
r4 2u - shift (1)
r3 1.75u - ctrl (1)
r3 3u - spacebar (1)
r3 1.25u - Fn (2)
r3 1u - app (1)
#4 Let's do Colemak&Dvorak and International in both Quarry and Hagoromo. I believe in you guys!
Though I understand your pain, that would really draw out the production schedule for one of the colorways. Based on the current SA set estimated date this set is already loooking like late next year. It would also mean hitting lower quantities on the modifiers since you would split up the buying base.
I support this idea 100%, but I'd like to make a suggestion. I'm one of those peeps that wants a full set of Quarry and Hagoromo with all the mod combos. Any chance you'd consider splitting this into two GBs/drops so my wallet has time to recharge? Based on the pricing of Dasher, a full SA set is going to cost the better part of $200. Almost $400 at one time may be a bit tough for some... I know it would be for me. :)
Though I understand your pain, that would really draw out the production schedule for one of the colorways. Based on the current SA set estimated date this set is already loooking like late next year. It would also mean hitting lower quantities on the modifiers since you would split of the buying base.
I support this idea 100%, but I'd like to make a suggestion. I'm one of those peeps that wants a full set of Quarry and Hagoromo with all the mod combos. Any chance you'd consider splitting this into two GBs/drops so my wallet has time to recharge? Based on the pricing of Dasher, a full SA set is going to cost the better part of $200. Almost $400 at one time may be a bit tough for some... I know it would be for me. :)
Also, I finally got around to sending that email regarding the Git logo permission.QuoteI'm out of the office on family leave and am not able to respond to my email.
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I wouldn't say this is urgent so I'll update whenever something comes back.
Could we get some mac keys mainly, option and command?
I wish SA Oblivion was GMK Oblivion... I want this so bad! I'll still end up buying the set, but I despise SA profile :(Have a look at GMK Honeywell on Originative, looks similar.
F me. I applaud your commitment in the face of all these edge case requests. Reading through this all just shows how much work it is to satisfy the needs of the majority. Forget the fact that the majority here is really the vocal minority in the grand scheme of things (especially if these go to a marketplace like Massdrop, where 'most' users wouldn't have set foot in here)
Looking forward to when this set one day comes to life though, but I don't envy your position right now.
Anyway, keep up the good work :thumb:
Could we get some mac keys mainly, option and command?
Same question
I wish SA Oblivion was GMK Oblivion... I want this so bad! I'll still end up buying the set, but I despise SA profile :(Have a look at GMK Honeywell on Originative, looks similar.
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Awesome!
I have just talked with Yanbo from Massdrop again and can now confirm that MD intends to run this set! I do not have a hard date yet as this year's schedule for keycaps is still being worked out, but will let you know once I have one to share.
I have just talked with Yanbo from Massdrop again and can now confirm that MD intends to run this set! I do not have a hard date yet as this year's schedule for keycaps is still being worked out, but will let you know once I have one to share.What a nice little new years gift to hear that!
Congrats on getting on the Massdrop queue! I pray for massive success for this set!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5XFPLRY.jpg)
I have just talked with Yanbo from Massdrop again and can now confirm that MD intends to run this set! I do not have a hard date yet as this year's schedule for keycaps is still being worked out, but will let you know once I have one to share.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5XFPLRY.jpg)
I have just talked with Yanbo from Massdrop again and can now confirm that MD intends to run this set! I do not have a hard date yet as this year's schedule for keycaps is still being worked out, but will let you know once I have one to share.
Great news on getting things setup with MD. Now I'm going to have to decide which alphas to get with this set....
Finally it's happening! i'd assume mid 2017 launch ?
Looks very nice! Will there be any novelty kets?
Finally it's happening! i'd assume mid 2017 launch ?
I really wish I could say, but I have no confirmed date yet, so I try to be very careful with that and will not say anything specific other than 2017. Hope you can understand!
Great news on getting things setup with MD. Now I'm going to have to decide which alphas to get with this set....
Not even in the sphere of difficulty, GET them ALL :thumb: .
Great news on getting things setup with MD. Now I'm going to have to decide which alphas to get with this set....
Not even in the sphere of difficulty, GET them ALL :thumb: .
LOL. If only I had unlimited funds...this is just one of a couple promising sets that look like they will launch in 2017.
Ever since seeing the dasher/dancer SA set, and then finding out about round 4 and 5 SA sets and the space cadets, honeywell etc schemes, I was sad to see I just missed out on the dasher/dancer set by a mere minute due to some paypal #$%!#^@, I'm glad to have found this one :)FYI, >Terminal_ is supposed to drop in 2 days... https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=85838
Voted in the polls over at massdrop, and waiting for it to drop. Now just need to save up a bit.
SA Penumbra and SA Hyperfuse - a moment of silence for our wallets - are back (for preorder at OCo). What's going to be of SA Oblivion? Is it still in the running for this year?
SA Penumbra and SA Hyperfuse - a moment of silence for our wallets - are back (for preorder at OCo). What's going to be of SA Oblivion? Is it still in the running for this year?
I'm gonna pass on the Penumbra and Hyperfuse.
I was about to pull the trigger on the Hyperfuse but decided to save my money and wait for this.
The price is just too high imo although I realize there is the market for it.
Hopefully, Oblivion's price won't be as ridiculous.
Count on e if there would be monochrome modifiers available.
With dissapointing R2 Penumbra (for me at least :-[). This justify this buy for me even more
With dissapointing R2 Penumbra (for me at least :-[). This justify this buy for me even more
100%
No white ("solarized") alphas on R2 Penumbra make this perfect for me!
Is there a way to get Massdrop to email me when it's available?
I know this is a bit late but is there any possiblity of adding a R3 1.25x blank to the 40 bit kit? I have a few planned builds with a 2.25-1.25-2.75 split spacebar and having that key would let me cover it. Worst case I'll use one of the legended 1.25x keys but I figured I'd ask :)
With dissapointing R2 Penumbra (for me at least :-[). This justify this buy for me even more
Would definitely be in for this! Also just switched to the Oblivion theme on Visual Studio, thanks for introducing that to me as well, it's a perfect theme for me!
Could you please look into adding a 6u (ideally center-stem compatible) space bar? SP has done 6u before with the Danger Zone set, and it'd make those of us with novatouched topre boards very, very happy (also if more sets start having the 6u bar then hopefully it'll eventually be a norm like you see with GMK sets so I can stop annoying people with this :) ).
I know this is a bit late but is there any possiblity of adding a R3 1.25x blank to the 40 bit kit? I have a few planned builds with a 2.25-1.25-2.75 split spacebar and having that key would let me cover it. Worst case I'll use one of the legended 1.25x keys but I figured I'd ask :)
SA Oblivion on the M65 aka RAMABAE65Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MZ6bzke.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vN9SGWW.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7flntVK.png)
SA Oblivion on the M65 aka RAMABAE65Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MZ6bzke.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/vN9SGWW.png)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/7flntVK.png)
Dang, what a bummer. What are all these sets, besides Round 6b, that are scheduled all the way until the end of 2017? Is there a list of past group buys, or is it just unknown businesses? I am honestly curious.
Dang, what a bummer. What are all these sets, besides Round 6b, that are scheduled all the way until the end of 2017? Is there a list of past group buys, or is it just unknown businesses? I am honestly curious.
Valentine
The Amazing Chocolatier
Godspeed
Dasher/Dancer
88 Comando
Photostudio
Camping
Grand Budapest
1965
Hyperfuse
Penumbra
plus 5 "commercial" orders
Dang, what a bummer. What are all these sets, besides Round 6b, that are scheduled all the way until the end of 2017? Is there a list of past group buys, or is it just unknown businesses? I am honestly curious.
Valentine
The Amazing Chocolatier
Godspeed
Dasher/Dancer
88 Comando
Photostudio
Camping
Grand Budapest
1965
Hyperfuse
Penumbra
plus 5 "commercial" orders
Not to veer too far off topic, but I believe 1965 is being cancelled due to jchan personal issues.
Alternative would be to make it GMK Cherry Profile... Just saying ;)
Alternative would be to make it GMK Cherry Profile... Just saying ;)
Not alternatively, additionally ;)
But not for a while, it's on my radar for sure though.
Alternative would be to make it GMK Cherry Profile... Just saying ;)
Not alternatively, additionally ;)
But not for a while, it's on my radar for sure though.
Alternative would be to make it GMK Cherry Profile... Just saying ;)
Not alternatively, additionally ;)
But not for a while, it's on my radar for sure though.
Good to know! But you could get a few month turn-around from GMK if you did a GB. Might generate interest for a Massdrop SA run!
I would love for GMK to try centered legends, it would really bring up some competition for SP if done well.
- Communities kit added (permissions for the logos have been acquired)Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_kit_21_communities_labeled.jpg)
Would you consider to add 1 extra for each 1u "Ctrl" and "Alt", plus 6.0u spacebar(s)?
That's needed for modern winkey 1800 layout.
Any chance of a quarry coloured ISO option for enter and left shift?
Hmm I've had this set on my mind for quite a while, but I just was thinking about how it would look with my M65 and realized there's no 'Git SDK' tsangan keys. Sorry if it has already been discussed.
I suppose specifically the 1u git modifiers like 'Merge' and 'Branch' would be tough, but a 1.75 u push key wouldn't be too tough but anyways I know it's kinda late in the game so if none of that is possible I'd understand and still be totally in for a set. Just my 2 cents :)
Any chance of a quarry coloured ISO option for enter and left shift?
You mean monochrome? Sadly I abandoned that idea because additional ISO enter keys are just so god damn pricey. I'm afraid Git and Monochrome legends are exclusive to the regular modifiers sans Colevrak because there it was very cheap to support and having a Git theme going that isn't supported by the Colevrak kit seemed absurd.
I'll have to evaluate this on the last days before the drop when I get the final pricing.
I'd have to restrain myself from ordering a set with white alphas and a set with the dark alphas...I have already given up on restraining myself from doing this. One for my Let's Split and one for my Ultimate Hacking Keyboard.
I'd have to restrain myself from ordering a set with white alphas and a set with the dark alphas...I have already given up on restraining myself from doing this. One for my Let's Split and one for my Ultimate Hacking Keyboard.
Alright guys. Kit's are now super-soft-locked.
Very nice, particularly the chalk with subtly coloured mods.
Still sculpted SA?
Gotta bridge the waiting time, so here are some more renders!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/9atSdkw.jpg)
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
Any chance of doing these in DSA or XDA? Or any other profile? Love this btw.
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
It's not just for me, it's for everyone with hhkb layout, most people use that key as backspace and not delete
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
It's not just for me, it's for everyone with hhkb layout, most people use that key as backspace and not delete
You could get the "REVERT" key from the GIT Specialties instead, though it certainly seems that more people would demand an R2 1.5 BS over an R2 1.5 DEL. Was there a specific reason Delete was chosen over Backspace for specialties? Most special mods packages have 1.5 Backspace.
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
It's not just for me, it's for everyone with hhkb layout, most people use that key as backspace and not delete
You could get the "REVERT" key from the GIT Specialties instead, though it certainly seems that more people would demand an R2 1.5 BS over an R2 1.5 DEL. Was there a specific reason Delete was chosen over Backspace for specialties? Most special mods packages have 1.5 Backspace.
Relevant to my interest, I'm thinking about an HHKB with MX sliders and this set is on my radar - would I need the base kit + modifiers + the specialty modifiers? The result would be a DEL key instead of BS (as a Mac users, this is actually more natural to me)?
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
It's not just for me, it's for everyone with hhkb layout, most people use that key as backspace and not delete
You could get the "REVERT" key from the GIT Specialties instead, though it certainly seems that more people would demand an R2 1.5 BS over an R2 1.5 DEL. Was there a specific reason Delete was chosen over Backspace for specialties? Most special mods packages have 1.5 Backspace.
Relevant to my interest, I'm thinking about an HHKB with MX sliders and this set is on my radar - would I need the base kit + modifiers + the specialty modifiers? The result would be a DEL key instead of BS (as a Mac users, this is actually more natural to me)?
If you're a Mac user, I don't think you would want an R2 1.5 Delete.
As a Mac user to mirror on a normal keyboard, you would need a R1 Delete as it replaces the standard R1 backspace, not the R2 backslash. The only difference is that on a Macbook Pro Retina (mine atleast), the Delete is 1.5, but the location is R1 so you would want an R1 1.75 Delete (which is not available in this set).
I would love to grab this set, but I do agree with m3ll3n that the R2 1.5 Delete instead of BS is an odd choice and also the reason I held off on Wolf Mark.
Some recent GB sets with R2 1.5 BS rather than R2 1.5 DEL:
GMK Coniferous
GMK Blue Alert
GMK Soware
SA Strong Spirit (which actually has both BS and DEL in the Tsagun kit)
SA 1965
SA Dasher and Dancer
The only one I saw with R2 1.5 DEL in a quick check was ... SA Grand Budapest...
possible to add a R2 150 backspace as an alternative to the R2 150 delete key in specialties?Nope, I can't accomodate every last special snowflake request, sorry!
It's not just for me, it's for everyone with hhkb layout, most people use that key as backspace and not delete
You could get the "REVERT" key from the GIT Specialties instead, though it certainly seems that more people would demand an R2 1.5 BS over an R2 1.5 DEL. Was there a specific reason Delete was chosen over Backspace for specialties? Most special mods packages have 1.5 Backspace.
Relevant to my interest, I'm thinking about an HHKB with MX sliders and this set is on my radar - would I need the base kit + modifiers + the specialty modifiers? The result would be a DEL key instead of BS (as a Mac users, this is actually more natural to me)?
If you're a Mac user, I don't think you would want an R2 1.5 Delete.
As a Mac user to mirror on a normal keyboard, you would need a R1 Delete as it replaces the standard R1 backspace, not the R2 backslash. The only difference is that on a Macbook Pro Retina (mine atleast), the Delete is 1.5, but the location is R1 so you would want an R1 1.75 Delete (which is not available in this set).
I would love to grab this set, but I do agree with m3ll3n that the R2 1.5 Delete instead of BS is an odd choice and also the reason I held off on Wolf Mark.
Some recent GB sets with R2 1.5 BS rather than R2 1.5 DEL:
GMK Coniferous
GMK Blue Alert
GMK Soware
SA Strong Spirit (which actually has both BS and DEL in the Tsagun kit)
SA 1965
SA Dasher and Dancer
The only one I saw with R2 1.5 DEL in a quick check was ... SA Grand Budapest...
Alright, I learned something here. I'm not using a specialty layout myself so some of the stuff I simply adapted from other sets while trying to understand why they did it there. Guess I didn't quite get it in this case. DELETE is what I got from The Amazing Chocolatier which was the basis of my initial version of the specialties kit. Godspeed uses ERASE, which I assume MiTo chose to have something between DELETE and BACKSPACE, to accomodate both users. I'll do some more research later and possibly be changing the legend. Thanks for your input!
Alright, I learned something here. I'm not using a specialty layout myself so some of the stuff I simply adapted from other sets while trying to understand why they did it there. Guess I didn't quite get it in this case. DELETE is what I got from The Amazing Chocolatier which was the basis of my initial version of the specialties kit. Godspeed uses ERASE, which I assume MiTo chose to have something between DELETE and BACKSPACE, to accomodate both users. I'll do some more research later and possibly be changing the legend. Thanks for your input!
Do be aware that the HHKB uses a 6u spacebar, so you won't be able to use the spacebars from this kit. There is an 6u topre SA spacebar on Shapeways but it won't color match perfectly (especially if you get the Oblivion kit) and there aren't many reports on the quality of it.
Do be aware that the HHKB uses a 6u spacebar, so you won't be able to use the spacebars from this kit. There is an 6u topre SA spacebar on Shapeways but it won't color match perfectly (especially if you get the Oblivion kit) and there aren't many reports on the quality of it.
Do be aware that the HHKB uses a 6u spacebar, so you won't be able to use the spacebars from this kit. There is an 6u topre SA spacebar on Shapeways but it won't color match perfectly (especially if you get the Oblivion kit) and there aren't many reports on the quality of it.
Do be aware that the HHKB uses a 6u spacebar, so you won't be able to use the spacebars from this kit. There is an 6u topre SA spacebar on Shapeways but it won't color match perfectly (especially if you get the Oblivion kit) and there aren't many reports on the quality of it.
hope this is not an issue with the Duck Viper V2 that is on the way soon. i looked and could not find layout diagrams for the bottom row.
I can't even believe that I'm considering picking up both Oblivion and Hagoromo sets because I could put Oblviion on my Novatouch and Hagamoro on my soon-to-be-MXed HHKB (there's a 3D printed 6u SA topre spacebar I could get in white that would match close enough). I mean I can in a vacuum, but not considering I'm already in on buys for I think 4-5 other sets (including R2 Penumbra). This hobby is murderous. I guess on the bright side, resale value for stuff is pretty good if not great so I could always sell some sets and not be out much. Not that I will.Hagomoro? Link please?
I can't even believe that I'm considering picking up both Oblivion and Hagoromo sets because I could put Oblviion on my Novatouch and Hagamoro on my soon-to-be-MXed HHKB (there's a 3D printed 6u SA topre spacebar I could get in white that would match close enough). I mean I can in a vacuum, but not considering I'm already in on buys for I think 4-5 other sets (including R2 Penumbra). This hobby is murderous. I guess on the bright side, resale value for stuff is pretty good if not great so I could always sell some sets and not be out much. Not that I will.Hagomoro? Link please?
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Run this in non-SA SOON pls
Keep SA. It fits the aesthetic nicely.
This is gorgeous by the way. :thumb:
Keep SA. It fits the aesthetic nicely.
This is gorgeous by the way. :thumb:
Might as well do both. You can have a DSA run started and finished before an SA production slot comes up.
Keep SA. It fits the aesthetic nicely.
This is gorgeous by the way. :thumb:
Might as well do both. You can have a DSA run started and finished before an SA production slot comes up.
That actually doesn't make a lot of sense as you have to do the GB before you can even get a slot as SP requires payment in full to even reserve a spot so moving forward with SA is the best option otherwise your competing with yourself. You don't wait for a slot to open then do the GB you do it and get in line once you have the payment. You could start the SA Oblivion tomorrow if he wanted and had someone to run it. He could do a vote to se which people prefer, but I think you will find that SA will win that, but it might b a good idea to do so.
Git Specialties!! Best news all day. Love the additional git keys like log, clean and diff!
TKL kit has been removed and merged into each modifier kit. Simultaneously I removed duplicate function row keys, so instead of having 12 from alphas and 12 from TKL, you will now have 1-4 and 9-12 from Alphas and 5-8 from Modifiers, so only the Sandwich mode as I call it is possible now in the functions row.
I didn't see an update on the function row after this:QuoteTKL kit has been removed and merged into each modifier kit. Simultaneously I removed duplicate function row keys, so instead of having 12 from alphas and 12 from TKL, you will now have 1-4 and 9-12 from Alphas and 5-8 from Modifiers, so only the Sandwich mode as I call it is possible now in the functions row.
But https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/ now shows the alphas with all 12 f-keys so that solid is possible again- is that the current plan? If its not, and theres no way to get a non-striped function row, would it at least be possible to get some R3 blanks?
Also- count me in for a DSA run first. This is an awesome colorway, and it'd be great to have in more than one profile. DSA could be over and done before MD will run SA, and I think it'll only increase interest.
I've been on the lookout for a sculpted SA keycap set for a long time now. I have held off buying caps ever since I bought my first mechanical keyboard a few years back. I'm still on the stock DSA's that came with the board.
I think you've done a great job on the standard Hagoromo + Primary Modifiers. There is a nice balance between contrast, and a little splash of color (not too much like Granite and others, where it starts looking like a childrens toy).
Honestly I haven't seen anything as classy since I first came across a Penumbra set. And honestly, this is an improvement. I will definatley be buying a set if I can afford to.
Thanks for your hard work!
I've been on the lookout for a sculpted SA keycap set for a long time now. I have held off buying caps ever since I bought my first mechanical keyboard a few years back. I'm still on the stock DSA's that came with the board.
I think you've done a great job on the standard Hagoromo + Primary Modifiers. There is a nice balance between contrast, and a little splash of color (not too much like Granite and others, where it starts looking like a childrens toy).
Honestly I haven't seen anything as classy since I first came across a Penumbra set. And honestly, this is an improvement. I will definatley be buying a set if I can afford to.
Thanks for your hard work!
Glad you like it!
In today's news, I posted an update to reddit > https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/5z8ybu/back_to_the_drawing_board_a_postmortem_for_sa/
This will be mine (someday).Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_keyboards_rama_boards_wqhd.jpg)
This will be mine (someday).Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_keyboards_rama_boards_wqhd.jpg)
This will be mine (someday).Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_keyboards_rama_boards_wqhd.jpg)
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
ITS A GOOD DAY
This will be mine (someday).Show Image(https://oblotzky.github.io/Oblivion/images/sa_oblivion_keyboards_rama_boards_wqhd.jpg)
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
which vendor?
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/hkpPgFw.jpg)
Nothing to see here, move along
Edit: Of course I'm curious if the coverage will be the same between the child sets on GMK, but I figure that will be revealed in due time xD
Oh my. This is super exciting, totally up for GMK as opposed to SA.Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
Oh my. This is super exciting, totally up for GMK as opposed to SA.Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
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I know. I just personally am more interested in buying GMK rather than SAOh my. This is super exciting, totally up for GMK as opposed to SA.Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
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If I'm not mistaken, it seems as if GMK will be an additional run to SA, not a replacement.
TBH I don't think the kits look nearly as nice in GMK, not sure what it is but they just lose something in translation for me. Had the same thought with Penumbra GMK, just something about the transition makes the sets look a bit standard I guess. I think others sets have made the transition just fine like Carbon, but for whatever reason Penumbra/Oblivion don't grab me in GMK form so I'll just wait the year or however long.
I know. I just personally am more interested in buying GMK rather than SAOh my. This is super exciting, totally up for GMK as opposed to SA.Hey guys, i know this properly has been propose but why not running it in a different profile before the q3 drop at Massdelays + 8 months wait etc... a trial run in a different profile wouldn't hurt nobody ;D
Chinese groupbuy vendor revealed that Oblivion is going to run in Cherry Profile and made by GMK in April.
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If I'm not mistaken, it seems as if GMK will be an additional run to SA, not a replacement.
I don't like this colorway for GMK, but others do, so go for it :)
I think I might be a GMK-conservative... :cool:
I don't like this colorway for GMK, but others do, so go for it :)
I think I might be a GMK-conservative... :cool:
I love certain sets in GMK, Hydro, Honeywell, Carbon, Muted etc. all scream GMK to me, this one however does not and neither does Penumbra - the white alphas will probably look great and though I have my doubts with the grey ones, I think it'll still look good. Just not as good a fit as SA, in my personal opinion!
Also, the focal length on this camera is killing me inside.
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GMK Penumbra looks like garbage. Felt like a money-grab to me.
Also, the focal length on this camera is killing me inside.
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I feel it suits Rama's designs
And regarding GMK legends, I have plans, don't worry :rolleyes:
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I feel it suits Rama's designs
And regarding GMK legends, I have plans, don't worry :rolleyes:
It's not orthogonal. I think you meant isometric—but it's not isometric either. It's distorted and looks like the keyboard has been twisted.
So aside from waiting on the drop to happen, is there anything else you're planning on changing about the set?
To my eyes, the bottom row on a TKL having a majority of keys with blue legends might look colour-wise asymmetrical in an unpleasant way? The way you have the ergodox set colours laid out so no two of the same colour are near each other should apply elsewhere as well.
I'm sorry, I know I'm late with this kind of commentary, but I only decided recently I'd be going in on this buy.
Given how low SP's MOQ, how about providing Assembly, 40bit, and Ergodox a monochrome alternatives too? I know it contradict the concept where on the monochrome it always real legend not novelty text. I just wanna speak my mind here ;D
Sure will get both monochrome and colored if happened, so I can have full control over the color placement ;D
Any chance of including a couple R1 caps with the ortho kit? It'd be nice if you could have fully dark gray sides on a Preonic.
Good idea, I will look into that. Would you want ~ and + keys in mod color or additional Assembly mods for their place? I'd say the first option makes more sense.
Given how low SP's MOQ, how about providing Assembly, 40bit, and Ergodox a monochrome alternatives too? I know it contradict the concept where on the monochrome it always real legend not novelty text. I just wanna speak my mind here ;D
Sure will get both monochrome and colored if happened, so I can have full control over the color placement ;D
I have thought about that too some time ago, Assembly in Monochrome would look dope for sure, but idk man. 25 kits already! I think it could hit MOQ on those too though...Any chance of including a couple R1 caps with the ortho kit? It'd be nice if you could have fully dark gray sides on a Preonic.
Good idea, I will look into that. Would you want ~ and + keys in mod color or additional Assembly mods for their place? I'd say the first option makes more sense.
Personally, assembly mods would be more desirable. I wouldn't want those keys bound to ~/+, and most Preonic owners on r/mk don't seem to be using that combination either.
About the R1 for preonic, I vote for another assembly mods instead of ~ and + because it didn't make sense in a way—if you use ~ on the top left there won't be + because it stop at - and if you do that, well that will be a weird looking layout.
Btw, if you use standard legend on Assembly I bet it will be cheaper because SP already has the mold for it (just use Godspeed formation), so why not? >:)(http://i.imgur.com/ti6kiSR.jpg)
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
Well that doesn't make much sense, because if I already do colored Assembly legends, then using standard legends for a monochrome kit won't make any difference price wise as the molds are finished for the colored kit already. :rolleyes:
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
Well that doesn't make much sense, because if I already do colored Assembly legends, then using standard legends for a monochrome kit won't make any difference price wise as the molds are finished for the colored kit already. :rolleyes:
My thought is: new doubleshot legend require new mould > new mould require additional cost. If we use godspeed configuration it means we aren't using new mold (just changing colors) > there won't be additional cost > cheaper. No?
I take it GMK is planned to drop before SA , if so is there anyone planning on getting both?
I take it GMK is planned to drop before SA , if so is there anyone planning on getting both?
#1 Correct, GMK will have it's group buy in a week or so, SA in Q3 2017. GMK will not be through Massdrop.
#2 Me
Will you be handling the GMK GB yourself or using a facilitator (if so, whom)?I take it GMK is planned to drop before SA , if so is there anyone planning on getting both?
#1 Correct, GMK will have it's group buy in a week or so, SA in Q3 2017. GMK will not be through Massdrop.
#2 Me
Will you be handling the GMK GB yourself or using a facilitator (if so, whom)?I take it GMK is planned to drop before SA , if so is there anyone planning on getting both?
#1 Correct, GMK will have it's group buy in a week or so, SA in Q3 2017. GMK will not be through Massdrop.
#2 Me
I'm not too sure about that first part, but I just got done reading the GMK Oblivion thread and saw that you already mentioned the second part a couple of times. My apologies. ;DWill you be handling the GMK GB yourself or using a facilitator (if so, whom)?I take it GMK is planned to drop before SA , if so is there anyone planning on getting both?
#1 Correct, GMK will have it's group buy in a week or so, SA in Q3 2017. GMK will not be through Massdrop.
#2 Me
I'm not insane, someone with a good reputation will be doing it who will announce the GB in a weeks time.
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
Well that doesn't make much sense, because if I already do colored Assembly legends, then using standard legends for a monochrome kit won't make any difference price wise as the molds are finished for the colored kit already. :rolleyes:
My thought is: new doubleshot legend require new mould > new mould require additional cost. If we use godspeed configuration it means we aren't using new mold (just changing colors) > there won't be additional cost > cheaper. No?
Okay I'm a bit confused now. We might be talking about different things because of my genius naming of the kits here. the 'Assembly' kit (lets call it Ortho for a moment because: ) uses so called Assembly legends, Assembly is a very low level programming language for computers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assembly_language
When you said to use regular legends on the MONOCHROME ASEEMBLY, I assumed you ment the original Ortho kit with XOR, ADD, SUB legends etc should be kept that way, but the Monochrome version should use SHIFT, LOWER, RAISE etc. And that is what made very little sense to me because the first kit would already have the new legends made, so the second one could use them as well at no extra charge.
But in any case. the >Assembly< legends (XOR, ADD, SUB) are here to stay 100%, if I'm not mistaken, there are a total of 19 new legends to be made for all three kits that use them (the Ortho set, 40bit and Ergodox), and I think that is fine. So that only leaves the question: Do I want to go all 7bit on this set and add Monochrome Assembly, Monochrome 40bit and Monochrome Ergodox :rolleyes:
Hi,
I'm a pleb so I don't know how these work. This is the first keyset I've seen that I really like the colors of, but I wonder would it be possible to order it all dark and with the green text on all mods? I have a very green theme going on
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Hi,
I'm a pleb so I don't know how these work. This is the first keyset I've seen that I really like the colors of, but I wonder would it be possible to order it all dark and with the green text on all mods? I have a very green theme going on
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Hey, welcome! Sadly this is not possible because the legends are not printed on the keys (known as pad printing) but done via double shot injection molding. This means they would need to fill the machine with green plastic, and then cycle through all the molds for the modifier legends and pop out one of each. This would cost them a lot of time and thus money, so unless you wave at them with a fat wallet, you are out of luck I'm afraid.
Another SA project, Green Screen, is your best bet https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75607.0 though #1 the alphas are green not the modifiers, and #2 the person running the set hasn't logged in for half a year so it might be dead I'm afraid.
And because I was bored, here is what you proposed would have looked like.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nVViL2k.jpg)
Hi,
I'm a pleb so I don't know how these work. This is the first keyset I've seen that I really like the colors of, but I wonder would it be possible to order it all dark and with the green text on all mods? I have a very green theme going on
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Hey, welcome! Sadly this is not possible because the legends are not printed on the keys (known as pad printing) but done via double shot injection molding. This means they would need to fill the machine with green plastic, and then cycle through all the molds for the modifier legends and pop out one of each. This would cost them a lot of time and thus money, so unless you wave at them with a fat wallet, you are out of luck I'm afraid.
Another SA project, Green Screen, is your best bet https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75607.0 though #1 the alphas are green not the modifiers, and #2 the person running the set hasn't logged in for half a year so it might be dead I'm afraid.
And because I was bored, here is what you proposed would have looked like.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nVViL2k.jpg)
Hi,
I'm a pleb so I don't know how these work. This is the first keyset I've seen that I really like the colors of, but I wonder would it be possible to order it all dark and with the green text on all mods? I have a very green theme going on
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Hey, welcome! Sadly this is not possible because the legends are not printed on the keys (known as pad printing) but done via double shot injection molding. This means they would need to fill the machine with green plastic, and then cycle through all the molds for the modifier legends and pop out one of each. This would cost them a lot of time and thus money, so unless you wave at them with a fat wallet, you are out of luck I'm afraid.
Another SA project, Green Screen, is your best bet https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75607.0 though #1 the alphas are green not the modifiers, and #2 the person running the set hasn't logged in for half a year so it might be dead I'm afraid.
And because I was bored, here is what you proposed would have looked like.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nVViL2k.jpg)
Hi,
I'm a pleb so I don't know how these work. This is the first keyset I've seen that I really like the colors of, but I wonder would it be possible to order it all dark and with the green text on all mods? I have a very green theme going on
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Hey, welcome! Sadly this is not possible because the legends are not printed on the keys (known as pad printing) but done via double shot injection molding. This means they would need to fill the machine with green plastic, and then cycle through all the molds for the modifier legends and pop out one of each. This would cost them a lot of time and thus money, so unless you wave at them with a fat wallet, you are out of luck I'm afraid.
Another SA project, Green Screen, is your best bet https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=75607.0 though #1 the alphas are green not the modifiers, and #2 the person running the set hasn't logged in for half a year so it might be dead I'm afraid.
And because I was bored, here is what you proposed would have looked like.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nVViL2k.jpg)
Doesn't look half bad, but clearly the original is better...
You could also consider GMK Terminal, though it is again with all of the keys that color, and of course, it's GMK.
https://thekey.company/collections/frontpage/products/gb-gmk-terminal_-preorder
Any chance of seeing this in Hi-Profile? Or is it way too early to even consider that?
Any chance of seeing this in Hi-Profile? Or is it way too early to even consider that?
Do you mean matt3o's MT3? That profile supports PBT only, which this set can not be done with.
Any chance of seeing this in Hi-Profile? Or is it way too early to even consider that?
Do you mean matt3o's MT3? That profile supports PBT only, which this set can not be done with.
SA profile?
Any chance of seeing this in Hi-Profile? Or is it way too early to even consider that?
Do you mean matt3o's MT3? That profile supports PBT only, which this set can not be done with.
SA profile?
I'm not sure what you are asking me
Any chance of seeing this in Hi-Profile? Or is it way too early to even consider that?
Do you mean matt3o's MT3? That profile supports PBT only, which this set can not be done with.
SA profile?
I'm not sure what you are asking me
GMK Oblivion is on. What about SA Oblivion?
Am I blind or is there no R4 End key? Will there be any changes between now and when the GB goes live to include this seeing as it's in the GMK set that's up now?
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
Well that doesn't make much sense, because if I already do colored Assembly legends, then using standard legends for a monochrome kit won't make any difference price wise as the molds are finished for the colored kit already. :rolleyes:
My thought is: new doubleshot legend require new mould > new mould require additional cost. If we use godspeed configuration it means we aren't using new mold (just changing colors) > there won't be additional cost > cheaper. No?
LOL SORRY! What I mean is you use the normal legend on MONOCHROME ASSEMBLY, I forgot to mention the monochrome :p
PS I too will murder you if you remove them colored mod.
Well that doesn't make much sense, because if I already do colored Assembly legends, then using standard legends for a monochrome kit won't make any difference price wise as the molds are finished for the colored kit already. :rolleyes:
My thought is: new doubleshot legend require new mould > new mould require additional cost. If we use godspeed configuration it means we aren't using new mold (just changing colors) > there won't be additional cost > cheaper. No?
I remember someone said SP molds have removable tops so they can make the legends without making a new mold, that's why they can make so many texts and novelties, I think no one could afford this set otherwise with so many custom stuff.
Is that why GMK charges 4x as much for a custom legend as SP does?
Many people are under the impression that new graphics require a new ‘mold’. New graphics are engraved in a brass plate. These legend plate are interchangeable inserts used in the first shot molds.
Is that why GMK charges 4x as much for a custom legend as SP does?
It's more like 10x as far as I know, and yes. Same goes for maxkeys.
Given the recent delay with Godspeed I suppose then Oblivion is more likely to run in 2018 rather than remaining Q3 this year?
Given the recent delay with Godspeed I suppose then Oblivion is more likely to run in 2018 rather than remaining Q3 this year?
Yeah, would be nice to have the GB closer to potential production date rather than a huge gap. As much as I want to buy into SA Oblivion, I also don't want a 7bit-style delay.
Yes I agree, and I have told Massdrop that I would rather wait with the drop for a shorter production schedule, even if that means we have to wait longer overall. But ultimately it is up to Massdrop, and I don't know yet how this affects the Q3 estimate we have had so far for this drop.Given that I just received an email that Godspeed still hasn't even begun production seven months after the drop ended, that's probably not a bad idea. Hell, I think SP needs to be sued for the interest on the funds that they're holding. I may just start avoiding SA sets in general. :(
Yes I agree, and I have told Massdrop that I would rather wait with the drop for a shorter production schedule, even if that means we have to wait longer overall. But ultimately it is up to Massdrop, and I don't know yet how this affects the Q3 estimate we have had so far for this drop.Given that I just received an email that Godspeed still hasn't even begun production seven months after the drop ended, that's probably not a bad idea. Hell, I think SP needs to be sued for the interest on the funds that they're holding. I may just start avoiding SA sets in general. :(
Oh, my bad... I wasn't serious. I should have used a tongue-in-cheek emoticon or something.Yes I agree, and I have told Massdrop that I would rather wait with the drop for a shorter production schedule, even if that means we have to wait longer overall. But ultimately it is up to Massdrop, and I don't know yet how this affects the Q3 estimate we have had so far for this drop.Given that I just received an email that Godspeed still hasn't even begun production seven months after the drop ended, that's probably not a bad idea. Hell, I think SP needs to be sued for the interest on the funds that they're holding. I may just start avoiding SA sets in general. :(
I don't think a lawsuit is warranted. They haven't refused production while keeping the funds and I have no doubt they will deliver. We all know what we're signing up for when we join a group buy for an SA set these days.
Oh, my bad... I wasn't serious. I should have used a tongue-in-cheek emoticon or something.Yes I agree, and I have told Massdrop that I would rather wait with the drop for a shorter production schedule, even if that means we have to wait longer overall. But ultimately it is up to Massdrop, and I don't know yet how this affects the Q3 estimate we have had so far for this drop.Given that I just received an email that Godspeed still hasn't even begun production seven months after the drop ended, that's probably not a bad idea. Hell, I think SP needs to be sued for the interest on the funds that they're holding. I may just start avoiding SA sets in general. :(
I don't think a lawsuit is warranted. They haven't refused production while keeping the funds and I have no doubt they will deliver. We all know what we're signing up for when we join a group buy for an SA set these days.
Given the recent delay with Godspeed I suppose then Oblivion is more likely to run in 2018 rather than remaining Q3 this year?
Yeah, would be nice to have the GB closer to potential production date rather than a huge gap. As much as I want to buy into SA Oblivion, I also don't want a 7bit-style delay.
Yes I agree, and I have told Massdrop that I would rather wait with the drop for a shorter production schedule, even if that means we have to wait longer overall. But ultimately it is up to Massdrop, and I don't know yet how this affects the Q3 estimate we have had so far for this drop.
Massdrop has been grooming a manufacturer for matt3o's new MT3 profile that is quite similar to SA. See http://matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/ for more detail than you probably care about.
Massdrop has been grooming a manufacturer for matt3o's new MT3 profile that is quite similar to SA. See http://matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/ for more detail than you probably care about.
MT3 is PBT dye-sub only, which this set cannot utilize due to the color restrictions for that process.
Massdrop has been grooming a manufacturer for matt3o's new MT3 profile that is quite similar to SA. See http://matt3o.com/about-mt3-profile-and-devtty-set/ for more detail than you probably care about.
MT3 is PBT dye-sub only, which this set cannot utilize due to the color restrictions for that process.
You can always reverse dye-sub :P
Pioneering that method for them will probably be helpful in the long run too.
About the R1 for preonic, I vote for another assembly mods instead of ~ and + because it didn't make sense in a way—if you use ~ on the top left there won't be + because it stop at - and if you do that, well that will be a weird looking layout.
Okay makes sense, R1 assembly mods it is. I'll need to check how it works out with the color distribution tho.
You could change the order of colors to match the Ergodox kit or the left side of the Oblivion modifiers.
About the R1 for preonic, I vote for another assembly mods instead of ~ and + because it didn't make sense in a way—if you use ~ on the top left there won't be + because it stop at - and if you do that, well that will be a weird looking layout.
Okay makes sense, R1 assembly mods it is. I'll need to check how it works out with the color distribution tho.
Guys, I'm stuck on this one. Since yellow is used in the bottom row for the ortholinear kit, I am not sure how I can fill 4 rows of modifier keys with the remaining 3 colors (orange, purple, green). Anyone have an idea?
reference of the current color distribution:Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/90rkEIg.jpg)
is it going to be on Massdrop soon ?
Beautiful keyset outside of its functionality and then just sublime when factoring function. I wasn't able to get in on the GMK Oblivion GB, will the SA Oblivion be the only set offered on Massdrop? Thanks so much!
If you're not joining the SA Carbon drop, you might want to snatch up its alphas anyways ;)
will eta still be a year ? i wanna join carbon but the eta is killing me
If you're not joining the SA Carbon drop, you might want to snatch up its alphas anyways ;)
Note that Carbon is R4 bottom row while Oblivion is R3 bottom row, so Numpad is not perfect for 0 and . keysShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ZZGq37S.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/nQLzNlY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/UDYixsy.jpg)
You always have the best renders. You know what set-up I'm most excited for? Penumbra R2 alphas with SA Oblivion mods. To me that's like a strictly better Penumbra. :))
The caffeinated chain smoker Yellow of the default Penumbra alphas is what turned me away from it indefinitely, whereas the clean white alphas of SA Oblivion are the tits. These cream colored WBO alphas from SA Carbon look so nice with oblivion, probably because the color reminds me of a timeworn sheet of paper. I might even like it more than the Hagoromo alphas. And only $35.99 right now...soon to be $34.99 once the 1000 drop point is hit...
You always have the best renders. You know what set-up I'm most excited for? Penumbra R2 alphas with SA Oblivion mods. To me that's like a strictly better Penumbra. :))
Penumbra R2 is 1-2-3-3-4-4 and Oblivion is 1-1-2-3-4-3, so profiles won't match up sadly.
Possible to update in one or two weeks time about the red and blue accents?Beautiful keyset outside of its functionality and then just sublime when factoring function. I wasn't able to get in on the GMK Oblivion GB, will the SA Oblivion be the only set offered on Massdrop? Thanks so much!
Thank you! Yes it will be on Massdrop later this year, the current ETA is Q3 but it's been a few months since I received that info myself, I'll try to get an update on that matter soon.
I'm also working on an update for the kits, maybe going to post them this weekend.
Gonna leave this here for now :rolleyes:Show Image(http://abload.de/img/untitled-1czub7.jpg)
Any chance that a R2 1.5u Delete can be included along with the current Backspace?
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Thanks for the super fast reply!Any chance that a R2 1.5u Delete can be included along with the current Backspace?
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Hey, I'm afraid no. There are a couple other keys I'd love to include in the specialties kits (e.g. 2u shift and 1u shift for those hip new 60% with arrows) but I have to draw a line somewhere so the kit ends up at a reasonable price (Carbon started off at 79,99$ for the extension kit due to the high amount of non-1u keys). Please keep in mind that this set has not been run before, the reception is certainly way above average, but I must not allow that to blind me and go balls deep and throw every conceivable key that someone might find useful at the kits. Specialty kits are very difficult in this regard. I hope you can understand!
Thanks for the super fast reply!Any chance that a R2 1.5u Delete can be included along with the current Backspace?
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Hey, I'm afraid no. There are a couple other keys I'd love to include in the specialties kits (e.g. 2u shift and 1u shift for those hip new 60% with arrows) but I have to draw a line somewhere so the kit ends up at a reasonable price (Carbon started off at 79,99$ for the extension kit due to the high amount of non-1u keys). Please keep in mind that this set has not been run before, the reception is certainly way above average, but I must not allow that to blind me and go balls deep and throw every conceivable key that someone might find useful at the kits. Specialty kits are very difficult in this regard. I hope you can understand!
Are the Carbon bone modifiers and the Oblivion monochrome modifiers of the same colour codes?
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Possible to update in one or two weeks time about the red and blue accents?Beautiful keyset outside of its functionality and then just sublime when factoring function. I wasn't able to get in on the GMK Oblivion GB, will the SA Oblivion be the only set offered on Massdrop? Thanks so much!
Thank you! Yes it will be on Massdrop later this year, the current ETA is Q3 but it's been a few months since I received that info myself, I'll try to get an update on that matter soon.
I'm also working on an update for the kits, maybe going to post them this weekend.
Gonna leave this here for now :rolleyes:Show Image(http://abload.de/img/untitled-1czub7.jpg)
Deciding whether to get orange mods...
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Edit: Ergodox and Planck seem pretty forward with the Presets provided in keyboard-layout-editor.com,
Edit: Ergodox and Planck seem pretty forward with the Presets provided in keyboard-layout-editor.com,
I would suggest blanks be an option for the planck. Many (most?) of us planck users are doing something custom with our keys. I, for example, use the middle 6 thumb keys on my grid planck inverted so they're easier on the thumbs, and have things like an enter key to the right of my space, and a backspace to the left of A.
So far I think Nantucket Selectric was the best for Planck so far. It was a standalone set with some novelties (Anchors and wheels) and some colour coordinated blanks to fill out the edges and bottom row.
I suspect it worked well. I know it's the only set which has tempted me to move away from the SA blanks I used previously. (I bought 2 planck sets, and some extra colemak and homing keys)
Usually I look at the $100+ to get the keys I need for a planck that won't even match my layout (I would need a few additional blanks to knock out the differences), and I just can't justify it.
I am a bit sad that there are no ISO Enter keys with HoneyCadet accents.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
I am a bit sad that there are no ISO Enter keys with HoneyCadet accents.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
And again, no 1.75u R4 for R-SHIFT :'(
WOW :eek:
Those monochrome modifier honeycadet accents are beautiful. I didn't see them the last time I checked in on this thread.
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
And again, no 1.75u R4 for R-SHIFT :'(
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
And again, no 1.75u R4 for R-SHIFT :'(
Makes sense to me. It's just weird to have R1 delete, end, and page down there when layouts that use them still need stuff from a specialties kit. Maybe I'm missing something though.
Seems like a rare layout to support with one of the main kits. I almost never see 96-key boards without arrows. Isn't it more common for someone to only need a nonstandard Rshift than only the top row delete and stuff? I guess it's not a big deal though, three caps probably won't affect the modifiers' price much.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
And again, no 1.75u R4 for R-SHIFT :'(
Makes sense to me. It's just weird to have R1 delete, end, and page down there when layouts that use them still need stuff from a specialties kit. Maybe I'm missing something though.
You can build a 96key that utilizes them with just Alphas, Modifiers and Numpad. I didn't want to put them into the specialties kit because of that, but also not into the numpad kit because then they'd be inaccessible for those building a 65%/75% (I like to use R1 Delete next to Backspace on 65%, and 75% has room in the top row for them)
Seems like a rare layout to support with one of the main kits. I almost never see 96-key boards without arrows. Isn't it more common for someone to only need a nonstandard Rshift than only the top row delete and stuff? I guess it's not a big deal though, three caps probably won't affect the modifiers' price much.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ycxL9U0.png)
And again, no 1.75u R4 for R-SHIFT :'(
Makes sense to me. It's just weird to have R1 delete, end, and page down there when layouts that use them still need stuff from a specialties kit. Maybe I'm missing something though.
You can build a 96key that utilizes them with just Alphas, Modifiers and Numpad. I didn't want to put them into the specialties kit because of that, but also not into the numpad kit because then they'd be inaccessible for those building a 65%/75% (I like to use R1 Delete next to Backspace on 65%, and 75% has room in the top row for them)
You'll find it in the specialties kit
Any thought on adding the GQM color set to spacekeys? I guess if you want split spacebar in that color you need the whole 40bit kit?
Also, for the arrows, you could add 2 more keys for full R3/R4 set, like one of these colors:Show Image(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/carbon/arrows_kit_20170530151140.jpg?auto=format&fm=jpg&fit=crop&w=473&dpr=1)
I know it's not status quo currently to have the 1.75u Shift in the standard modifiers, but I think it's an interesting idea. It's is becoming increasingly more common to split the right shift, and this might be an opportunity to lead the way in future base modifier design.
The more I look at these kits, the happier I am with SA Oblivion and how it has come together over the months. The legend colors and the monochrome accents and the macro.asm kit and ugh! Everything is just so good; I'm probably going to spend way more than I originally anticipated. Can't wait to see the new-and-improved renders!Holding back from Carbon for this! A pity this will arrive quite a fair bit later...
Holding back from Carbon for this! A pity this will arrive quite a fair bit later...
Is it too late to add 3u spacebar for Filco Minila?
Plugins.
Excited about the stepped and windowed "Push" caps lock. Do all those caps lock keys have stems in the center?
Only regular ones are centered, the stepped ones are off center to the left, basically in the center of the touch-surface.
When you let RAMA work his magicShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YqETJUO.jpg)
When you let RAMA work his magicShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/YqETJUO.jpg)
A 1.25 CapsLock for us old-school UNIX layout typists would make this set completely endgame. I'm still probably buying sets to cover three boards :))
In a bigger size, that could make for a very cool desktop wallpaper.
Belated note, but super-pleased to see the macros.asm kit.
A 1.25 CapsLock for us old-school UNIX layout typists would make this set completely endgame. I'm still probably buying sets to cover three boards :))
I'm afraid that's too exotic to be part of the Extension kits :/
A compilation I made yesterday showing off the various ways of combining alphas and modifiersShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/ygmzskZ.jpg)
Would getting a R3 "up" cap be possible? There's one for the arrows but not a text version.
changed the R2 comfort arrow for the standard modifier kits to R3, makes more sense IMO, R2 is too much uphill this early in the layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Dqq8uc1.png)
In a bigger size, that could make for a very cool desktop wallpaper.
Belated note, but super-pleased to see the macros.asm kit.
You mean wider? Cuz the image is 4096 by 4096 ;) You could crop it top and bottom to achieve 16:9 aspect ratio.
Edit: here u goShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/H8Vap0N.jpg)
A 1.25 CapsLock for us old-school UNIX layout typists would make this set completely endgame. I'm still probably buying sets to cover three boards :))
Is it too late to add 3u spacebar for Filco Minila?
Even better. While I didn't want to put any more burden on the specialty kits (from here on out to be called Extension kits, more in line with the programming theme), I do not see a problem in supporting it properly with its own kit. Alphas + Mods + This will cover youShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Ji7a1Yi.png)
also added a label to the 2u key in macros.asm (and thus a second 2u key for monochrome)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/01is8bX.png)
changed the R2 comfort arrow for the standard modifier kits to R3, makes more sense IMO, R2 is too much uphill this early in the layoutShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/Dqq8uc1.png)
and just got confirmation in, so here's the fifth community key, it's the KP logo from the distributer of pretty much all sets that MD runs lately for the asian market. they have also build a growing community around it so it seems appropriateShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/5xRkdTv.png)
also here are the first renders showing off the new honeycadet accents for monochrome!Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/LjG93HL.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/0UCC9QR.jpg)
A 1.25 CapsLock for us old-school UNIX layout typists would make this set completely endgame. I'm still probably buying sets to cover three boards :))
I know exactly where you're coming from. I believe SA Oblivion and SA Carbon are both using GQM for their grey modifiers. I assume you're looking to put the caps lock in the bottom row on the far left, under the left shift. SA Oblivion is using R3 for the bottom row. Take a look at the "Exotic Kit" for the SA Carbon drop on Massdrop right now. It has a 1.25 SA R3 Caps Lock in GQM grey, with the legend in orange. If you use the SA Oblivion colored modifiers instead of the monochrome modifiers, it'll fit right in (even if you wouldn't otherwise have any orange in SA Oblivion).
What is the minimum of order of each kit? I wonder can the minila kit will have enough order to make it through to production. :-[
You got the right idea. one of the twenty-five Asian's here. :DWhat is the minimum of order of each kit? I wonder can the minila kit will have enough order to make it through to production. :-[
25, I'm putting my faith in the Asian community for that kit. If it doesn't tip, then its no real loss as that would not affect other layouts.
- New kit, for those among you that get hard on LED's. Might not make it into the GB, I noticed on Carbon that the LED keys account for noticeable price differences between kits, so I have a bad feeling about this one. Going by the differences on Carbon kits, I would guesstimate this kit at 50+ dollars, but maybe I am wrong and not seeing some other factors, will get it priced and then decide.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/Zc5A5go.png)
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
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But seriously, I would be interested in a LED window kit. Not sure if $50+ would be worth it personally, especially if it is for a max of 3 keys to be used. (Don't wanna start another Scroll Lock flame war)
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
WhyNotBoth.gif
But seriously, I would be interested in a LED window kit. Not sure if $50+ would be worth it personally, especially if it is for a max of 3 keys to be used. (Don't wanna start another Scroll Lock flame war)
I'd be willing to dish out money on it. LED-windowed keys are so few and far between that I'd look into using the spares for other future layouts.
(There was a Scroll Lock flame war? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to MKs.)
But I would really be interested in a HJKL VIM pack, if that could be a thing.
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
WhyNotBoth.gif
But seriously, I would be interested in a LED window kit. Not sure if $50+ would be worth it personally, especially if it is for a max of 3 keys to be used. (Don't wanna start another Scroll Lock flame war)
I'd be willing to dish out money on it. LED-windowed keys are so few and far between that I'd look into using the spares for other future layouts.
(There was a Scroll Lock flame war? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to MKs.)
There's just an ongoing idea of Scroll Lock and Caps Lock (and sometimes Num Lock for boards without numpad) being completely unneeded, and boards that are programmable should never have those keys. I personally use both, and have no issues with them or other people that use or don't use them. That's why the boards are programmable, you can make them whatever you want.
But I would really be interested in a HJKL VIM pack, if that could be a thing.
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
WhyNotBoth.gif
But seriously, I would be interested in a LED window kit. Not sure if $50+ would be worth it personally, especially if it is for a max of 3 keys to be used. (Don't wanna start another Scroll Lock flame war)
I'd be willing to dish out money on it. LED-windowed keys are so few and far between that I'd look into using the spares for other future layouts.
(There was a Scroll Lock flame war? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to MKs.)
There's just an ongoing idea of Scroll Lock and Caps Lock (and sometimes Num Lock for boards without numpad) being completely unneeded, and boards that are programmable should never have those keys. I personally use both, and have no issues with them or other people that use or don't use them. That's why the boards are programmable, you can make them whatever you want.
But I would really be interested in a HJKL VIM pack, if that could be a thing.
I see. And I agree with you. I'd like to squeeze all of them into a 60% for locking function layers etc. and pair them with MX lock switches.
+1 VIM kit! Feels like it could be relevant for this set.
I don't get hard on underglow and backlight, but I do get hard on LED-windowed keys! ;D
That's a yes to the LED keys kit!
I wanted to join the SA Carbon drop partly because of the LED-windowed keys. Now I feel like maybe I should hold off until the SA Oblivion drops. My poor, poor wallet...
WhyNotBoth.gif
But seriously, I would be interested in a LED window kit. Not sure if $50+ would be worth it personally, especially if it is for a max of 3 keys to be used. (Don't wanna start another Scroll Lock flame war)
I'd be willing to dish out money on it. LED-windowed keys are so few and far between that I'd look into using the spares for other future layouts.
(There was a Scroll Lock flame war? Excuse my ignorance, I'm new to MKs.)
There's just an ongoing idea of Scroll Lock and Caps Lock (and sometimes Num Lock for boards without numpad) being completely unneeded, and boards that are programmable should never have those keys. I personally use both, and have no issues with them or other people that use or don't use them. That's why the boards are programmable, you can make them whatever you want.
But I would really be interested in a HJKL VIM pack, if that could be a thing.
I see. And I agree with you. I'd like to squeeze all of them into a 60% for locking function layers etc. and pair them with MX lock switches.
+1 VIM kit! Feels like it could be relevant for this set.
I will see what I can do!
He did beige and orange for Carbon: https://vimcaps.com/
He did beige and orange for Carbon: https://vimcaps.com/
Yeah I know, I would be okay with those, just not GAL legends on VAT base or so (except for the use on Monochrome sets)
What's the chances of the manila kit actually being produced?
What's the chances of the manila kit actually being produced?
I think 25 is doable. The main problem here is that most sales will come from Asia, so the numbers won't show up on MD until the last day. I'll try to get those numbers and communicate them to the MD talk page or so.
He did beige and orange for Carbon: https://vimcaps.com/
Yeah I know, I would be okay with those, just not GAL legends on VAT base or so (except for the use on Monochrome sets)
My Vimcaps piece of this would hinge completely on your creator approval (colors and the rest), but I figured it would be separate from the Drop. You have enough to worry about.
Monochrome Assembly plssss :confused: to top it off, with honeywell accent too :p
Monochrome Assembly plssss :confused: to top it off, with honeywell accent too :p
I feel like if I add any more Monochrome stuff, I might as well just split it off from Oblivion alltogether and wait half a year to drop it seperately...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ASaDIHU.jpg)
Monochrome Assembly plssss :confused: to top it off, with honeywell accent too :p
I wish, I really wish I could just do all the kits in all the variations. I've been eyeing to do it for Ergodox because of how good it sells in SA drops, but Planck kits are about half of Ergodox and 40% even less. I'm still waiting on pricing for now, I have no idea what the current Ergodox kit will even sell at. I feel like if I add any more Monochrome stuff, I might as well just split it off from Oblivion alltogether and wait half a year to drop it seperately...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ASaDIHU.jpg)
Monochrome Assembly plssss :confused: to top it off, with honeywell accent too :p
I've been eyeing to do it for Ergodox ...Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/ASaDIHU.jpg)
I've picked up a Manila based on nothing but the hopes the oblivion manila set actually happens. I could have bought it after this drops but where would be the fun in that ?
Edit: I can't find any evidence the Manila kit was ever planned... I checked the official project page and it's not there. Now I'm wondering where I even saw it to begin with???
I know kits are locked but is there any chance to add another 2u to Ergodox like the Carbon SA ?
I'm asking for my custom keyboard MKPedalion I'm building :D , but might work for regular Ergodoxes just to have more options like the Carbon SA, maybe the third one in WFK or GD. I understand you can't do that just for me but maybe if more people are interested in such option.
Absolutely gutted at all the international kits getting bundled together, I understand the reasoning for doing it though. Would it not be possible to include left shift, iso enter and two blanks in the correct profile in the alphas and mod kits? Or possibly a simple iso kit for people that don't need all the exact perfect legends? I just find it a bit annoying having to pay a lot of money for a kit that I only want 5 or so keys from and the rest are useless to me?
Absolutely gutted at all the international kits getting bundled together, I understand the reasoning for doing it though. Would it not be possible to include left shift, iso enter and two blanks in the correct profile in the alphas and mod kits? Or possibly a simple iso kit for people that don't need all the exact perfect legends? I just find it a bit annoying having to pay a lot of money for a kit that I only want 5 or so keys from and the rest are useless to me?
I'll wait for pricing of the current kits before I make any more decisions in that regard. I have a date with Yanbo on thursday
I'm asking for my custom keyboard MKPedalion I'm building :D , but might work for regular Ergodoxes just to have more options like the Carbon SA, maybe the third one in WFK or GD. I understand you can't do that just for me but maybe if more people are interested in such option.
I'd add a blank GQM (modifier color) at most to represent the spacebar, but GD or WFK won't happen since by design only GQM keys have colored legends.
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
PS: We're very close ;)
PS: We're very close ;)
Aww man I hope its after the middle of the month :)) Wallets empty after paying the bills :))
MD doesn't do two sets simultaneously [...]
MD doesn't do two sets simultaneously [...]
...anymore ;)
Awesome! Thanks for giving us more clues about the GB date. Gives me time to prepare :DPS: We're very close ;)
Aww man I hope its after the middle of the month :)) Wallets empty after paying the bills :))
MD doesn't do two sets simultaneously, and XDA Godspeed just launched with 3 weeks of GB ;)
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
The Extension kits
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion is currently up to date in regards to kits, and is locked in once I've cleared up the FN vs META issue or non-issue
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
The Extension kits
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion is currently up to date in regards to kits, and is locked in once I've cleared up the FN vs META issue or non-issue
:(
So no way to remove ONE of the extra 1.75u r3 and add it in r4? (since surely is more popular a r4 1.75 than an extra function or control 1.75 r3)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/46mHBgd.jpg)
Is there any chance we'll know pricing info before XDA Godspeed ends?PS: We're very close ;)
Aww man I hope its after the middle of the month :)) Wallets empty after paying the bills :))
MD doesn't do two sets simultaneously, and XDA Godspeed just launched with 3 weeks of GB ;)
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
The Extension kits
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion is currently up to date in regards to kits, and is locked in once I've cleared up the FN vs META issue or non-issue
:(
So no way to remove ONE of the extra 1.75u r3 and add it in r4? (since surely is more popular a r4 1.75 than an extra function or control 1.75 r3)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/46mHBgd.jpg)
Only additionally, if at all.
Control is used by HHKB layout and also by some on TKL. Function for anyone who lives in the 21st century and has abandoned CapsLock
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
The Extension kits
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion is currently up to date in regards to kits, and is locked in once I've cleared up the FN vs META issue or non-issue
:(
So no way to remove ONE of the extra 1.75u r3 and add it in r4? (since surely is more popular a r4 1.75 than an extra function or control 1.75 r3)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/46mHBgd.jpg)
Only additionally, if at all.
Control is used by HHKB layout and also by some on TKL. Function for anyone who lives in the 21st century and has abandoned CapsLock
Well additionally would be really good, i believe there are more people looking for that keycap Than people with a hhkb layout or modified hkkb sliders (to fit mx)
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Hey, what kit will have the 1.75 R4 R-shift at the end?
The Extension kits
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion is currently up to date in regards to kits, and is locked in once I've cleared up the FN vs META issue or non-issue
:(
So no way to remove ONE of the extra 1.75u r3 and add it in r4? (since surely is more popular a r4 1.75 than an extra function or control 1.75 r3)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/46mHBgd.jpg)
Only additionally, if at all.
Control is used by HHKB layout and also by some on TKL. Function for anyone who lives in the 21st century and has abandoned CapsLock
Well additionally would be really good, i believe there are more people looking for that keycap Than people with a hhkb layout or modified hkkb sliders (to fit mx)
Oh, I kinda misunderstood your request there because I was initially speaking about 1.25u FN key for R3. The key you're looking for, R4 1.75u Shift, will remain available through the Extension kit.
Is there any chance we'll know pricing info before XDA Godspeed ends?PS: We're very close ;)
Aww man I hope its after the middle of the month :)) Wallets empty after paying the bills :))
MD doesn't do two sets simultaneously, and XDA Godspeed just launched with 3 weeks of GB ;)
Hmm, is META a valid substitute for FN keys? It's currently in place of the bottom row MENU key, and people would be using it in the same spot still if they used it for a function layer. And the Minila kit has a second META key to cover the two FN keys the Minila has. Thoughts?Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/qwAfIsC.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AfW2yxh.png)
Reason is, I've abandoned FUNC, just makes me think of a 80s disco set with FUNKY keys or so. So R4 1u in Extension and stepped capslock replacement have been changed to FN, while bottom row (R3) 1u in extension and 1.25u in modifiers has been changed to META, chosen for better aesthetics when in line with the other 3-4 lettered legends.
PS: We're very close ;)
Found a solution, will update github page in the morning while stuff renders over night.
Any idea on delivery date? Just curious...l
Since NorDeUK was split off into the NorDe and UK kits, I moved the AltGraph keys back to their appropriate UK kit. Earlier I had them in the Modifier/Extension kits because they made up an additional 6 keys per NorDeUK kit but now it's much more balanced. The Modifier and Extension kits now have FN and META keys in 1.25u and 1u, and Minila now features the correctly labeled second FN key. That should now make everyone happy.
Since NorDeUK was split off into the NorDe and UK kits, I moved the AltGraph keys back to their appropriate UK kit. Earlier I had them in the Modifier/Extension kits because they made up an additional 6 keys per NorDeUK kit but now it's much more balanced. The Modifier and Extension kits now have FN and META keys in 1.25u and 1u, and Minila now features the correctly labeled second FN key. That should now make everyone happy.
Ooh! This makes me very happy to hear! What sizes?
What happened to the LED-windowed keys? Are they going to be included?
Since NorDeUK was split off into the NorDe and UK kits, I moved the AltGraph keys back to their appropriate UK kit. Earlier I had them in the Modifier/Extension kits because they made up an additional 6 keys per NorDeUK kit but now it's much more balanced. The Modifier and Extension kits now have FN and META keys in 1.25u and 1u, and Minila now features the correctly labeled second FN key. That should now make everyone happy.
Ooh! This makes me very happy to hear! What sizes?
What happened to the LED-windowed keys? Are they going to be included?
oblotzky.github.com/sa-oblivion
Looking at the spacekeys kit. Would it be possible to add a blank 1.25u to it as well?
Looking at the spacekeys kit. Would it be possible to add a blank 1.25u to it as well?
Done
Also fixed UK kit (one key was still in the NorDe kit) and added the missing 5 key for Swedish support.
I noticed there's no "RUN" key...
you know:Show Image(http://img07.deviantart.net/9e9c/i/2015/364/2/e/commit_push_run_by_porkite-d9m2jvc.png)
why not? ;) (you already got 66.67% of it)
I noticed there's no "RUN" key...
you know:Show Image(http://img07.deviantart.net/9e9c/i/2015/364/2/e/commit_push_run_by_porkite-d9m2jvc.png)
why not? ;) (you already got 66.67% of it)
It's not actually a git command ;) don't feel like the joke would fit in the set anyways
Would it be possible to update either the first post of this thread or the github.io page with all the changes that have been made to the various kits in this set? It's a bit difficult to keep up with the cumulative effect of all the changes that have been made over the course of this thread, and I'd like to see what all the kits look like in their current form.
tenkeyless.asm is one of the greatest ideas I've ever seen. I've never been actually impatient for a keyset to drop. I hope you feel like what you've achieved here with your design/decisions is a success, because many people do!
Couple of questions:
Oblivion LED - are the legends doubleshot or pad printed?
Any option for all the Honeycadet accent keys to make it into their own kit? Or be combined with a kit that'll be cheaper than the monochrome modifiers?
I have no plans to make HoneyCadet accent keys their own kit as I believe they only fit with Monochrome anyways. Mixing them with colored legends is quite bleh
I guess this will drop soon :eek:
been awhile since i looked at the set. REALLY looking forward to press Join :) Thanks for making the norde kit Oblivion style! :-*
Any last chance to add a LED windowed control/caps look? :)
I guess this will drop soon :eek:
been awhile since i looked at the set. REALLY looking forward to press Join :) Thanks for making the norde kit Oblivion style! :-*
Any last chance to add a LED windowed control/caps look? :)
?
LED kit is at the bottom of the page https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/
Damn, I'm going to have to buy a whole mod kit just for that 'Hello World!' button. :(
Still psyched.
EDIT: What keyboard do you use Oblotzky?
working on fresh drop renders, first part! the first one is pretty much my dream kit comboShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cPECPID.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U0kTBgp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EKO0iBR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/S2SpbpT.jpg)
working on fresh drop renders, first part! the first one is pretty much my dream kit comboShow Image(http://i.imgur.com/cPECPID.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/U0kTBgp.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/EKO0iBR.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/S2SpbpT.jpg)
Looks beautiful!
Any chance of a 60% render? Perhaps of a split spacebar?
Damn, I'm going to have to buy a whole mod kit just for that 'Hello World!' button. :(
Still psyched.
EDIT: What keyboard do you use Oblotzky?
Looks beautiful!
Any chance of a 60% render? Perhaps of a split spacebar?
No worries, lotta renders coming in the week to ahead :thumb:
Would you consider adding the hello world keycap to the git modifiers kit as well?
I mean, im planning on getting the git modifiers kit just because its programmer-ey and would love to have the hello world keycap as an alternate to the commit keycap.
Hahaha ill hold you to it! Thats if oblotzky thinks its not a good idea to include it in the git modifiers kit :)Would you consider adding the hello world keycap to the git modifiers kit as well?
I mean, im planning on getting the git modifiers kit just because its programmer-ey and would love to have the hello world keycap as an alternate to the commit keycap.
You can have mine for the cost of postage.
Hahaha ill hold you to it! Thats if oblotzky thinks its not a good idea to include it in the git modifiers kit :)Would you consider adding the hello world keycap to the git modifiers kit as well?
I mean, im planning on getting the git modifiers kit just because its programmer-ey and would love to have the hello world keycap as an alternate to the commit keycap.
You can have mine for the cost of postage.
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Well, I'm trying to take pressure off of Oblotzky to make any further kit changes. :-*
I suppose if a couple hundred people all clamor for one key, like the Hello World! key, to be moved into the base kit (or whatever), then it's probably worth doing even if it will raise the kit price by $1 or $2. But it's a slippery slope. A hundred different people could have a hundred different pet keycaps they want without having to buy a whole kit just for that one key, and so they want it in the base kit (or some other kit they are buying). You can't accommodate every single whim of every buyer and keep the kits affordable.
But the reaction to it is positive enough...
[...] and it's more thematically consistent with a mod-set different to the one that it's currently in!
Kits have been sent off to SP, you may only point out errors from now on. (https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/)
Thanks to all for giving feedback! Gonna continue making keyboard renders till the drop drops.
Thanks for tenkeyless.asm, love the kit :thumb:
Kits have been sent off to SP, you may only point out errors from now on. (https://oblotzky.github.io/sa-oblivion/)
Thanks to all for giving feedback! Gonna continue making keyboard renders till the drop drops.
Thanks for tenkeyless.asm, love the kit :thumb:
Agreed, the asm kit is a fantastic idea!
"Hello World!" should be "Hello, World!" no? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%22Hello,_World!%22_program
The comma is very crucial...
I would vote for no comma, personally, and no exclamation point either.
I know the traditional first program string has both, but it feels more industrial and cohesive with other keys like "CAPS LOCK" and "PAGE DOWN" to just have "HELLO WORLD"
I would vote for no comma, personally, and no exclamation point either.
I know the traditional first program string has both, but it feels more industrial and cohesive with other keys like "CAPS LOCK" and "PAGE DOWN" to just have "HELLO WORLD"
I would vote for no comma, personally, and no exclamation point either.
I know the traditional first program string has both, but it feels more industrial and cohesive with other keys like "CAPS LOCK" and "PAGE DOWN" to just have "HELLO WORLD"
German and Swedish ISO boards :)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/bZFdeSw.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6unTSmn.jpg)
Also added the comma to HELLO WORLD novelty keys in Oblivion Modifiers, Git Modifiers and the Git and Oblivion UK kit
Also added the comma to HELLO WORLD novelty keys in Oblivion Modifiers, Git Modifiers and the Git and Oblivion UK kit
Ahhhh, the other guy convinced me "HELLO WORLD" (no punct) will look better than "HELLO, WORLD!" but you're the designer.
Going to end up getting 2-3 sets worth. Love everything about this set, thanks for all the work you put into it.
The exclamation mark is pretty vital for the legend IMO, so that one I wasn't dropping for sure. Thanks for the support!
The exclamation mark is pretty vital for the legend IMO, so that one I wasn't dropping for sure. Thanks for the support!
Can we re-drop the comma at least?
Hey
Is there a price estimate yet?
I am thinking whether I should wait for Oblivion or get the grand budapest.
Hey
Is there a price estimate yet?
I am thinking whether I should wait for Oblivion or get the grand budapest.
The best estimate I can give right now is to go check the pricing on other SA sets run by MD such as Carbon, Godspeed or Chocolatier. Since the drop starts in September and goes on for 3 weeks, I'd say you easily have a month left to gather finances if you really wan't to get both.
Some more stuff to show off ;)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xkkzPeY.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/S0zlHJ4.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xqtgEQ9.jpg)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oEJw0E6.jpg)
Gotta call off the September launch :(
we're launching this month! August 31st yall! https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set
Gotta call off the September launch :(
we're launching this month! August 31st yall! https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set
Gonna checkout so fast. I've literally photoshop mocked up all the possible layouts I'd like and listed all the kits I'd need. It's gonna be expensive. :X
Hype! This set is very nice. I have not yet tested SA profile though but might get this. The difficult choise is white vs grey.
I know SA always split in small kits. Are people doing this just because SA has much lower MOQ or have anyone tried selling SA in GMK-style kits?
I guess most people buy plenty of kits and id assume that would make prices lower.
Gotta call off the September launch :(
we're launching this month! August 31st yall! https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-oblotzky-sa-oblivion-custom-keycap-set
For those interested in calculating your cost easily I put together an open office spreadsheet.At tier 1 price i will be at
Simply enter the quantity you want of each set and the current sold quantity for each set in the appropriate columns and it does the rest.
If there are any errors please let me know. There are two or three sets that didn't have confirmed prices when I made the spreadsheet I will try to update that tonight or in the morning.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4HHzg6Ix6-2ajVWSjJBTzVYTk0/view?usp=sharing
Total $288,94
For those interested in calculating your cost easily I put together an open office spreadsheet.
Simply enter the quantity you want of each set and the current sold quantity for each set in the appropriate columns and it does the rest.
If there are any errors please let me know. There are two or three sets that didn't have confirmed prices when I made the spreadsheet I will try to update that tonight or in the morning.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4HHzg6Ix6-2ajVWSjJBTzVYTk0/view?usp=sharing
Shut up and take my money-Philip J. Fry, 3010
Thank you! Your order is complete.
For those interested in calculating your cost easily I put together an open office spreadsheet.
Simply enter the quantity you want of each set and the current sold quantity for each set in the appropriate columns and it does the rest.
If there are any errors please let me know. There are two or three sets that didn't have confirmed prices when I made the spreadsheet I will try to update that tonight or in the morning.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4HHzg6Ix6-2ajVWSjJBTzVYTk0/view?usp=sharing
Magoromo NodDe ;)
FYI the pricing sheet currently on the drop page was updated, but has a small mixup, especially concering the Monochrome UK price. that one is in fact identical to Oblivion & Git UK. it should be corrected later today@ Mods, this thread can be moved over to the appropriate GB forum now, thank you!Done. GLWGB! :thumb: - infiniti
Ordered! ;D, can't wait for this set to get in! This will be my first SA set, so I'm also excited to check out the profile!
Ordered! ;D, can't wait for this set to get in! This will be my first SA set, so I'm also excited to check out the profile!
Let us know how you like them. In a year :cool:
Ordered! ;D, can't wait for this set to get in! This will be my first SA set, so I'm also excited to check out the profile!
Let us know how you like them. In a year :cool:
WAIT! You think it will be that soon? This is an SA set from SP, I was expecting a 3+ year wait.
They're saying it could possibly be more than 10 months. GB's often have delays. If you expect there to be delays you'll be much happier than if you expect it to arrive in 10 months. Only you can decide if it's worth the wait.Ordered! ;D, can't wait for this set to get in! This will be my first SA set, so I'm also excited to check out the profile!
Let us know how you like them. In a year :cool:
WAIT! You think it will be that soon? This is an SA set from SP, I was expecting a 3+ year wait.
10 months doesn't seem too bad. You guys saying it's not worth a wait?
Ordered! ;D, can't wait for this set to get in! This will be my first SA set, so I'm also excited to check out the profile!
Let us know how you like them. In a year :cool:
WAIT! You think it will be that soon? This is an SA set from SP, I was expecting a 3+ year wait.
10 months doesn't seem too bad. You guys saying it's not worth a wait?
Its worth it, if you dont need the money. You can always resell them for more if one doesnt like SA profile. Put in a order, try to forget about it and suddenly it will be delivered.
Its worth it, if you dont need the money. You can always resell them for more if one doesnt like SA profile. Put in a order, try to forget about it and suddenly it will be delivered.
Truer words have never been spoken. Its only when I pay close attention that these GBs become more than just a buy. MD will get it to you. Your money is not at risk like with other GBs. So it gets here when it gets here.
Some of us on the Massdrop forum talked about the possibility to add a handful of keys to support additional layouts like Colemak Mod-DH, Norman, and Workman. I spoke to Oblotzky and told him that I've been waiting on a key set to fully support Mod-DH for a long time and I would be willing to foot the cost to ensure the MOQ was met. After talking about the possibility to add to the existing Colevrak set, he thinks a new add-on might be a better option, rather than increasing the price of the Colevrak set.
Some of us on the Massdrop forum talked about the possibility to add a handful of keys to support additional layouts like Colemak Mod-DH, Norman, and Workman. I spoke to Oblotzky and told him that I've been waiting on a key set to fully support Mod-DH for a long time and I would be willing to foot the cost to ensure the MOQ was met. After talking about the possibility to add to the existing Colevrak set, he thinks a new add-on might be a better option, rather than increasing the price of the Colevrak set.
I'd buy one of the sets (two if you want to run both colours).
Your list looks correct, better than my quick checking last night (given I only checked the Colevrak kit, not the Qwerty kit... it was late, that's my excuse)
I'm not a Dvorak user, so the Programmer's " doesn't bother me, I'd be buying for mod DH support also.
If only there was some way to poll the 31 purchasers of the existing Colevrak kits...
If it's one kit with both colors and not more expensive than the current Colevrak kit than I'll buy it.Some of us on the Massdrop forum talked about the possibility to add a handful of keys to support additional layouts like Colemak Mod-DH, Norman, and Workman. I spoke to Oblotzky and told him that I've been waiting on a key set to fully support Mod-DH for a long time and I would be willing to foot the cost to ensure the MOQ was met. After talking about the possibility to add to the existing Colevrak set, he thinks a new add-on might be a better option, rather than increasing the price of the Colevrak set.
I'd buy one of the sets (two if you want to run both colours).
Your list looks correct, better than my quick checking last night (given I only checked the Colevrak kit, not the Qwerty kit... it was late, that's my excuse)
I'm not a Dvorak user, so the Programmer's " doesn't bother me, I'd be buying for mod DH support also.
If only there was some way to poll the 31 purchasers of the existing Colevrak kits...
Might as well throw in the dvorak programmer key at this point. It would be 1 kit with both colors, so like 19,99$ at 25 units. I'll whip out a render over the weekend once the list of keys has been confirmed and then bring this to Yanbo. Would be very good if we can get a few people vouching to buy it here as it's a hard sell. Thanks for the support!
Some of us on the Massdrop forum talked about the possibility to add a handful of keys to support additional layouts like Colemak Mod-DH, Norman, and Workman.
Some of us on the Massdrop forum talked about the possibility to add a handful of keys to support additional layouts like Colemak Mod-DH, Norman, and Workman. I spoke to Oblotzky and told him that I've been waiting on a key set to fully support Mod-DH for a long time and I would be willing to foot the cost to ensure the MOQ was met. After talking about the possibility to add to the existing Colevrak set, he thinks a new add-on might be a better option, rather than increasing the price of the Colevrak set.
I'd buy one of the sets (two if you want to run both colours).
Your list looks correct, better than my quick checking last night (given I only checked the Colevrak kit, not the Qwerty kit... it was late, that's my excuse)
I'm not a Dvorak user, so the Programmer's " doesn't bother me, I'd be buying for mod DH support also.
If only there was some way to poll the 31 purchasers of the existing Colevrak kits...
Might as well throw in the dvorak programmer key at this point. It would be 1 kit with both colors, so like 19,99$ at 25 units. I'll whip out a render over the weekend once the list of keys has been confirmed and then bring this to Yanbo. Would be very good if we can get a few people vouching to buy it here as it's a hard sell. Thanks for the support!
No update in a few days here.... thinking the extra kit may not be happening after all... sadface
Any chance we could get a GD or GQM 2.5u spacebar in the extra additional missing keys kit?
I bought an 89u JIS and would like one. :O
Any chance we could get a GD or GQM 2.5u spacebar in the extra additional missing keys kit?
I bought an 89u JIS and would like one. :O
No mold for that size
Hmm I'm kinda worried about the monochrome extensions not meeting MOQ. Not sure if we can get another 14 more in 4 days ):
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Sweet! Really hope the kit gets through.Hmm I'm kinda worried about the monochrome extensions not meeting MOQ. Not sure if we can get another 14 more in 4 days ):
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There's 11 orders on Taobao for it, they'll be added on the last 2 days or so
Regarding the ISOs, they might not be produced? I mean there is a split between colored and monochrome so if neither set might not be produced, i think the group of people would rather buy and unite around one iso kit.
FYI MOQ has been lifted for all kits as long as numbers don't go down from where they are now ;)
Total kits sold so far: 3,904
Total amount of sales: $156,852.96
If you were to buy one of each: $1,145.70 :-*
Asian proxy should add about 15% or so as far as I can tell
This GB is shaping up great! Thanks for everyone that has joined or will join soon enough!
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
FYI MOQ has been lifted for all kits as long as numbers don't go down from where they are now ;)
Total kits sold so far: 3,904
Total amount of sales: $156,852.96
If you were to buy one of each: $1,145.70 :-*
Asian proxy should add about 15% or so as far as I can tell
This GB is shaping up great! Thanks for everyone that has joined or will join soon enough!
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
Shaping up great indeed! :thumb:
Regarding possible private add-on kits. Would it be doable to explore the possibility of a monochrome LED-keys kit?
SA Oblivion is a marvelous keyset, but not being able to afford both monochrome and Oblivion modifiers, I opted for the former because damn, that's a fine looking colorway! However, this meant the Oblivion colored LED-keys made little sense to include for me (couldn't have a green Caps breaking up my SpaceCadet). Perhaps there are others going for the monochrome mods that would like this possibility as well?
For me personally, I'd be on it even if it quite naturally means a more expensive kit.
Fantastic news about the MOQ lifting. This will ease a lot of people's concerns and hopefully get more purchases in there!
FYI MOQ has been lifted for all kits as long as numbers don't go down from where they are now ;)
Total kits sold so far: 3,904
Total amount of sales: $156,852.96
If you were to buy one of each: $1,145.70 :-*
Asian proxy should add about 15% or so as far as I can tell
This GB is shaping up great! Thanks for everyone that has joined or will join soon enough!
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
Shaping up great indeed! :thumb:
Regarding possible private add-on kits. Would it be doable to explore the possibility of a monochrome LED-keys kit?
SA Oblivion is a marvelous keyset, but not being able to afford both monochrome and Oblivion modifiers, I opted for the former because damn, that's a fine looking colorway! However, this meant the Oblivion colored LED-keys made little sense to include for me (couldn't have a green Caps breaking up my SpaceCadet). Perhaps there are others going for the monochrome mods that would like this possibility as well?
For me personally, I'd be on it even if it quite naturally means a more expensive kit.
Theoreticall: Probably yes, practically: not really. See how it jumps from 50 to 75 units from 40$ to 24$? Now imagine 25 units, and minus MD wholesale discount. It is unfortunate not to have but I don't really see that being possible I'm afraid.
And done! Thanks so much to everyone that joined, see you next summer! :-*
hello
I am the first to buy a keycap of Signature Plastics.
The gmk keycap is shipped in a tray
How is sp delivered?
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this is dolch set
I want a keycap in the tray.
sp gave me a disappointment
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this is dolch set
I want a keycap in the tray.
sp gave me a disappointment
I understand that you are displeased, but there is little I can do here. SP does not offer trays, so it wasn't even an option we chose to not select. I wish SP would do something like GMK does for kits like the mod pack in your photo for example, but unfortunately they don't.
I see too late, I can buy?
Is this the start of the waiting line?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/S47wcO7.png)
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
I'm totally in for a VIM kit.
I'll tackle these on the weekend, need to finish up the production guide for SP today and stuff.
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
I'm totally in for a VIM kit.
I'll tackle these on the weekend, need to finish up the production guide for SP today and stuff.
Edit: Regarding VIM and extended Colevrak: Let's get on that once this GB has wrapped up. I don't want to burden MD much more as they are already generous with buying out remaining kits. We should be able to get those done privately.
I'm totally in for a VIM kit.
I'll tackle these on the weekend, need to finish up the production guide for SP today and stuff.
I talked to potatowire/vimcaps.com who said he planned on running an Oblivion Vim caps GB, similar to his Carbon Vim caps GB. I don't think he's started the process yet, but may want to chat with him.
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Any complaints? Not sure about an R1 1u key. Going by VIM colors it should also be green but wouldn't fit in with the Oblivion color distribution then, and not sure if people would want it in orange/red.
I added potatowire on Skype so we'll figure stuff out, maybe he can run the Colevrak extension I'm doing now too
These vim caps are a great addition to Oblivion. Any similar plans for GMK Oblivion?
These vim caps are a great addition to Oblivion. Any similar plans for GMK Oblivion?
I think that would go better with a R2 of GMK Oblivion since that's happening sooner as a R2 for SA I'm pretty sure. A SA VIM kit would only need like 25-50 buyers or so, and we just wrapped the GB up with over a thousand people joining. For GMK we'd need 250 kits made due to custom color. MOQ for custom colors is only lower if it's a child kit and you're already buying 500+ base kits or so, but that's basically already over now. So lets wait for R1 sets to get out there and rile up demand for R2 ;)
I'll just let you decide if you want the orangered or green 1u cap. Technically green would be actually more in line with the Oblivion color theme since the addition of orangered was done by me personally. And I guess this kit won't be too cheap, but I don't like half-assing things so... but it's a dope kit not many will have!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LJeEr93.jpg)
Also Colevrak Extension kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/V3n9OEh.jpg)
I'll just let you decide if you want the orangered or green 1u cap. Technically green would be actually more in line with the Oblivion color theme since the addition of orangered was done by me personally. And I guess this kit won't be too cheap, but I don't like half-assing things so... but it's a dope kit not many will have!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LJeEr93.jpg)
Also Colevrak Extension kit:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/V3n9OEh.jpg)
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/9qi7JNP.jpg)Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/RKZeWMY.jpg)
Any complaints? Not sure about an R1 1u key. Going by VIM colors it should also be green but wouldn't fit in with the Oblivion color distribution then, and not sure if people would want it in orange/red.
I added potatowire on Skype so we'll figure stuff out, maybe he can run the Colevrak extension I'm doing now too
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Drop closed whilst I was travelling interstate with work and missed emails that my payment didn't go through - I'd selected wrong account on Paypal, but with multiple flights didn't even check emails for a couple days. Sooooo if anyone wants to offload Hagoromo Alphas and either Oblivion or Git Modifiers, well congratulations, you've found your buyer!! :-*
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Thanks for this! I had a few kits close to reaching their next price drop, but noticed my bill showed the same amount as before. I was wondering how things went.
Oh that reminds me, the Hagoromo Numpad reached 200+ units after closing, so it dropped 5$. Yanbo told me that amount should be seen as a refund soonish for those that bought it.
Oh that reminds me, the Hagoromo Numpad reached 200+ units after closing, so it dropped 5$. Yanbo told me that amount should be seen as a refund soonish for those that bought it.
Hi! I'm new to this forum - hell, to mechanical keyboards. (I've used Mac laptops, and Apple-branded low-profile USB keyboards, since the dawn of time; this is a big step for me! :P)
Vimcaps-style keys are one of the primary reasons that I'm interested in mechanical keyboards - but it looks like I arrived too late, and this whole thing is already over? Is this really "massdrop"-only, or is there a way to purchase vimcaps outside of the link in the OP?
Forgive a newbie probably making himself look like an idiot, and thanks for any help! <3
Apologize if this has already been asked (this is a huge thread), but I joined the Massdrop GB, and as of last week ordered a keyboard that requires the Minila modifiers.You might be able to buy the kit off of someone once they have shipped. Until then, happy waiting!
Since this is after the fact, is there a way for me to get this Minila set? I emailed the folks a Massdrop and it was a flat "no", so just trying my luck here.
Thanks!
Any word on the VIM and Colevrak extension kits? :)
Any word on the VIM and Colevrak extension kits? :)
Hey, sorry for the long silence on this. I will try to get this to GB asap, I had to wait for permission from Massdrop (I signed a contract that gives them timed exclusivity for SA Oblivion, about till when it ships out) so I wanted to make sure this is all good, which it is. I've poked potatowire and waiting for him to get back to me. We already have pricing etc from SP.
Any word on the VIM and Colevrak extension kits? :)
Hey, sorry for the long silence on this. I will try to get this to GB asap, I had to wait for permission from Massdrop (I signed a contract that gives them timed exclusivity for SA Oblivion, about till when it ships out) so I wanted to make sure this is all good, which it is. I've poked potatowire and waiting for him to get back to me. We already have pricing etc from SP.
Sweet!Any word on the VIM and Colevrak extension kits? :)
Hey, sorry for the long silence on this. I will try to get this to GB asap, I had to wait for permission from Massdrop (I signed a contract that gives them timed exclusivity for SA Oblivion, about till when it ships out) so I wanted to make sure this is all good, which it is. I've poked potatowire and waiting for him to get back to me. We already have pricing etc from SP.
Awesome to hear! Will definitely be in for a VIM kit!
Any word on the VIM and Colevrak extension kits? :)
Hey, sorry for the long silence on this. I will try to get this to GB asap, I had to wait for permission from Massdrop (I signed a contract that gives them timed exclusivity for SA Oblivion, about till when it ships out) so I wanted to make sure this is all good, which it is. I've poked potatowire and waiting for him to get back to me. We already have pricing etc from SP.
Hello all,
After too long a delay, I would like to open up sales of the Oblivion Vimcaps (http://vimcaps.com/about.html) and the Colevrak expansion pack. Oblotzky set the colorway and options, and I will be fulfilling the orders. These keys will be produced by SP at the end of August 2018, so I will get them sent out to individuals shortly thereafter.
Details are on my site (https://vimcaps.com/oblivion.html), but the Vimcaps set is $39.50 and the Colevrak set is $29.50. Shipping for most people will be $3 within the US and $13 outside the US.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Hello all,
After too long a delay, I would like to open up sales of the Oblivion Vimcaps (http://vimcaps.com/about.html) and the Colevrak expansion pack. Oblotzky set the colorway and options, and I will be fulfilling the orders. These keys will be produced by SP at the end of August 2018, so I will get them sent out to individuals shortly thereafter.
Details are on my site (https://vimcaps.com/oblivion.html), but the Vimcaps set is $39.50 and the Colevrak set is $29.50. Shipping for most people will be $3 within the US and $13 outside the US.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Hello all,
After too long a delay, I would like to open up sales of the Oblivion Vimcaps (http://vimcaps.com/about.html) and the Colevrak expansion pack. Oblotzky set the colorway and options, and I will be fulfilling the orders. These keys will be produced by SP at the end of August 2018, so I will get them sent out to individuals shortly thereafter.
Details are on my site (https://vimcaps.com/oblivion.html), but the Vimcaps set is $39.50 and the Colevrak set is $29.50. Shipping for most people will be $3 within the US and $13 outside the US.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Nice work!
What's the deadline for joining and what's the MOQ?
Hello all,
After too long a delay, I would like to open up sales of the Oblivion Vimcaps (http://vimcaps.com/about.html) and the Colevrak expansion pack. Oblotzky set the colorway and options, and I will be fulfilling the orders. These keys will be produced by SP at the end of August 2018, so I will get them sent out to individuals shortly thereafter.
Details are on my site (https://vimcaps.com/oblivion.html), but the Vimcaps set is $39.50 and the Colevrak set is $29.50. Shipping for most people will be $3 within the US and $13 outside the US.
Let me know if you have any questions.
Nice work!
What's the deadline for joining and what's the MOQ?
50 for VIM, 25 for Colevrak extension. duration unknown, I'd say a month (so ~mid feb), I'll probably buy out remaining units if needed and it's not too many.
I've just been speaking to a guy on /r/mechmarket about buying his spot in this group buy - is that possible? I'd really love to get in but I'm not sure what I'd need to ask for to be sure of taking the slot - would you need my email or deets?
I've just been speaking to a guy on /r/mechmarket about buying his spot in this group buy - is that possible? I'd really love to get in but I'm not sure what I'd need to ask for to be sure of taking the slot - would you need my email or deets?
I've just been speaking to a guy on /r/mechmarket about buying his spot in this group buy - is that possible? I'd really love to get in but I'm not sure what I'd need to ask for to be sure of taking the slot - would you need my email or deets?
Vimcap website is down :(
Still down?Vimcap website is down :(
It's back up. Thank you for letting me know!!!
Still down?Vimcap website is down :(
It's back up. Thank you for letting me know!!!
Can't load the page... :(
Any plans for a GMK version?GMK has already been ran and is done shipping. You can buy leftovers at keyclack.
Still down?Vimcap website is down :(
It's back up. Thank you for letting me know!!!
Can't load the page... :(
I’m not sure what’s going on, but I’ll have to troubleshoot tomorrow. Anyone who would rather not wait is welcome to email me at orders@vimcaps.com with what you’d like to order, and I’ll invoice you. I’m sorry for the hassle.
looking good :thumb:
I'm down for this
looking good :thumb:
I'm down for this
You've missed it mate
Any chance of extras available?
Any chance of a round two in the future? Obviously not right away but at some point down the road.
Got tracking for my personal purchase :)Yes, got my tracking as well!
Got tracking for my personal purchase :)Yes, got my tracking as well!
Mine is shipped as well.
Kicking myself didn't get GD & WFK Spacekeys kit
If anyone wanna sell it, please pm or u/duoshock
Got my set today, finally my dream - paired it with Carbon Alphas, 'Carblivion':Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LxPLnho.jpg)
Got my set today, finally my dream - paired it with Carbon Alphas, 'Carblivion':Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LxPLnho.jpg)
Got my set today, finally my dream - paired it with Carbon Alphas, 'Carblivion':Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LxPLnho.jpg)
Oooooo I was kicking myself for not also getting the Hagoromo alphas, but this is a great idea for an alternative. Is this R1 SA Carbon or R2? Not sure if R2 had a darker tint compared to R1
Got my set today, finally my dream - paired it with Carbon Alphas, 'Carblivion':Fabulous combo :thumb:Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/LxPLnho.jpg)