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[GB] GMK Chocolatier - Shipping Soon
« on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 10:54:40 »
GMK Chocolatier


Current status: Orders closed.


Current orders
  • Core (MOQ 250): 315
  • Novelties (MOQ 250): 256
  • Spacebars (MOQ 150): 118
  • Rama x Chocolatier (MOQ 50): 108

Last updated on November 6th



Greetings to you, the lucky finder of this keyset. After more than two years, we finally meet again
(I shake you warmly by the hand). Once again, my factory is open for visitors, so please go ahead and
come to taste the new flavours produced in our German facilities!


Released almost two years ago, SA Chocolatier was the first keycap set that I’ve ever made. Inspired by the
chocolate wrappers of the 2005 motion picture adaptation of Roald Dahl’s masterpiece, Charlie and the
Chocolate Factory, GMK Chocolatier is the second iteration of this set.




Available kits








Pricing

- North America: Novelkeys
  - Core: $145
  - Novelties: $35
  - Spacebars: $30


- Europe: MykeyboardEU (prices including VAT)
  - Core: 141.99€
  - Novelties: 39€
  - Spacebars: 32€


- China: ZFrontier
  - Core: ¥1048
  - Novelties: ¥248
  - Spacebars: ¥210


- Asia (Korea, Japan, SEA...), Australia, and New Zealand: ZFrontier
  - Core: $165
  - Novelties: $38
  - Spacebars: $32
 *Note: ZFrontier has free shipping via DHL Express for orders over $100.





Estimated Timeline

- Oct 5th - Nov 5th: Pre-order window
- Nov 6th - Nov 13th: Submit order to GMK
- March 2019: Shipping to customers.





RAMA x Chocolatier Brass Keycaps

The RAMA works team is making a Collab with chocolatier and we're offering chocolatier themed brass keycaps with pvd finish in blue and gold.




Where to buy

- Novelkeys: $56
- ZFrontier - China: ¥392
- ZFrontier - Rest of Asia: $56
- MykeyboardEU (prices including VAT): 64€
  - Golden Ticket
  - Blue X
  - Blue O







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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 15:17:13 »
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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 15:35:07 »
Updated current numbers.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 19:41:10 »
I'm confused. One of the pictures shows icon mods on the mod keys but the base kit only has text + icon. which one is it gonna be??
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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 21:48:46 »
Do any of the kits have an MOQ?  Or will a certain quantities be made no matter what, to be sold after the pre-order window closes?

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 04:07:44 »
I'm confused. One of the pictures shows icon mods on the mod keys but the base kit only has text + icon. which one is it gonna be??

Text + Icon, the icon only mods were done by RAMA, to demonstrate how the brass keycaps would look like with the set.



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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 04:08:41 »
Do any of the kits have an MOQ?  Or will a certain quantities be made no matter what, to be sold after the pre-order window closes?

MOQ for each kit added.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 09:17:35 »
2u left shift is not offered?

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 11:30:43 »
2u left shift is not offered?

No. If I had to offer a 2.00U Shift, I'd also have to offer 1.00U shifts and include the split spacebars on the base kit.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 14:45:36 »
Updated numbers for GMK Chocolatier.

Current orders
  • Core (MOQ 250): 54
  • Novelties (MOQ 250): 47
  • Spacebars (MOQ 150): 26

Last updated on October 7th (no data from ZFrontier)

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 14:51:29 »
May i ask why you use "Available for pre-order!" instead of groupbuy?

edit: didn't like my wording ^^ sounded to conspiracy theorist to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 10:25:28 »
May i ask why you use "Available for pre-order!" instead of groupbuy?

edit: didn't like my wording ^^ sounded to conspiracy theorist to me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I didn't like to use "order now!" for a product that is yet to be made.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 15:49:17 »
Current numbers updated. Added orders from ZFrontier.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 20:22:22 »
Just wondering what the reasoning behind including two R2 1.5 Tabs and two R4 2.25 Shifts is? Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper to drop the wonka keys, 1 tab, and 1 shift and include all keys in one set instead of these high MOQ small sets? Was really hoping the blue/gold keys were included in the base set, wouldn't really consider those novelties. Also, what happened to the blue arrow keys?
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« Reply #14 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 21:55:43 »
Just wondering what the reasoning behind including two R2 1.5 Tabs and two R4 2.25 Shifts is? Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper to drop the wonka keys, 1 tab, and 1 shift and include all keys in one set instead of these high MOQ small sets? Was really hoping the blue/gold keys were included in the base set, wouldn't really consider those novelties. Also, what happened to the blue arrow keys?

#1 two R4 2.25 Shift is for 660 layout.
#2 two R2 1.5 Tabs let you have two sets of mods, one regular and another HHK

Most GMK sets do #1.  #2 is something new, but really good move IMO.

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« Reply #15 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 00:05:32 »
Ordered! Core, Novelties and Space Bars. Couldn't quite get my ahead around the brass golden key, but dang I was sorely tempted.

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« Reply #16 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 05:01:05 »
Just wondering what the reasoning behind including two R2 1.5 Tabs and two R4 2.25 Shifts is? Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper to drop the wonka keys, 1 tab, and 1 shift and include all keys in one set instead of these high MOQ small sets? Was really hoping the blue/gold keys were included in the base set, wouldn't really consider those novelties. Also, what happened to the blue arrow keys?

#1 two R4 2.25 Shift is for 660 layout.
#2 two R2 1.5 Tabs let you have two sets of mods, one regular and another HHK

Most GMK sets do #1.  #2 is something new, but really good move IMO.

I get that, but aren't both of those cases for a minority set of users? Why not put those and a few other of the non-standard keys being offered into an "Extras" pack and put the blue/gold keys and spacebars into the base kit?

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« Reply #17 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 05:19:18 »
Just wondering what the reasoning behind including two R2 1.5 Tabs and two R4 2.25 Shifts is? Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper to drop the wonka keys, 1 tab, and 1 shift and include all keys in one set instead of these high MOQ small sets? Was really hoping the blue/gold keys were included in the base set, wouldn't really consider those novelties. Also, what happened to the blue arrow keys?

#1 two R4 2.25 Shift is for 660 layout.
#2 two R2 1.5 Tabs let you have two sets of mods, one regular and another HHK

Most GMK sets do #1.  #2 is something new, but really good move IMO.

I get that, but aren't both of those cases for a minority set of users? Why not put those and a few other of the non-standard keys being offered into an "Extras" pack and put the blue/gold keys and spacebars into the base kit?

I don't think the answer is clear cut and I don't speak for Zamb, but here is my stab at it:
Base set provides layout coverage so those keys definitely belong there.
For Novelties being a separate kit from the Base kit, I don't think it's wrong.  Although in retrospect, you make a good point since it looks like most buyers of the Base kit are also getting the Novelties.
Spacebars definitely should be a separate kit.

Personally, I'd probably get 2 x Base + 1 x Novelties, so I'd prefer the current kit breakdown.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 05:22:07 »
Just wondering what the reasoning behind including two R2 1.5 Tabs and two R4 2.25 Shifts is? Also, wouldn't it just be cheaper to drop the wonka keys, 1 tab, and 1 shift and include all keys in one set instead of these high MOQ small sets? Was really hoping the blue/gold keys were included in the base set, wouldn't really consider those novelties. Also, what happened to the blue arrow keys?

#1 two R4 2.25 Shift is for 660 layout.
#2 two R2 1.5 Tabs let you have two sets of mods, one regular and another HHK

Most GMK sets do #1.  #2 is something new, but really good move IMO.

I get that, but aren't both of those cases for a minority set of users? Why not put those and a few other of the non-standard keys being offered into an "Extras" pack and put the blue/gold keys and spacebars into the base kit?

Not a good idea. The Core for this set must provide basic coverage for everyone and the second tab helps a lot with usability. Now, instead of having a second 2.25U shift for just the 660, it can be used with an HHKB (or a fullsize keyboard if the person that bought the set is using it with an HHKB, provided with the novelties kit).

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 06:48:40 »
So sad to see blue arrows cluster gone. Those would look great on a TKL keyboard. Maybe you could've stuff those into novelties kit or something.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 06:52:29 »
So sad to see blue arrows cluster gone. Those would look great on a TKL keyboard. Maybe you could've stuff those into novelties kit or something.

That kit is already quite expensive, had I add them in blue, people would ask for them in yellow for consistency.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:01:08 »


Week one update!

Good day everyone!

First of all, thanks a lot to all of the group buy participants for joining the group buy on week one! With your help, we're close to 100 units on two of the kits. Of course, there's still a long stretch to the MOQ, but with the help of everyone I think we should be able to reach those quantities.
If you were thinking about buying a set, now it's the perfect time to do it!


Current orders
- Core (MOQ 250): 93
- Novelties (MOQ 250): 86
- Spacebars (MOQ 150): 45
- Rama x Chocolatier: 40

Last updated on October 15th

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« Reply #22 on: Mon, 15 October 2018, 11:49:34 »
Ordered! Can't wait  :p :p

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 04:45:17 »
Chocolatier is currently over 100 core kits sold! Thanks for the support so far, we are getting closer and closer to the MOQ.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 19 October 2018, 20:15:16 »
Chocolatier is currently over 100 core kits sold! Thanks for the support so far, we are getting closer and closer to the MOQ.

Maybe update the order numbers in your top post?

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 09:36:17 »
Chocolatier is currently over 100 core kits sold! Thanks for the support so far, we are getting closer and closer to the MOQ.

Maybe update the order numbers in your top post?

Oops  :confused:

Current orders
  • Core (MOQ 250): 102
  • Novelties (MOQ 250): 93
  • Spacebars (MOQ 150): 48

Last updated on October 18th

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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 15:31:47 »
Why is the price $165 on the store and $140 on here?  NA

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« Reply #27 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 15:39:04 »
Why is the price $165 on the store and $140 on here?  NA
Maybe try novelkeys for NA. In case of zfrontier, they’ve got free shipping over 100$.
It’s all in the first post and I can see no claim of 140$, just 145...
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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 21 October 2018, 23:03:04 »
This look like a dud tbh, I think brown is people least favorite colors. I've looked back at this over and over again trying to tell myself I like this set but I still don't, any cool theme artisan accessory theme you guys are thinking of to go with this? I wish Zambumon did SB or NN before this. 


Seems like watching the movie Chocolat, yeah the Chocolat, but it loses it's appeal without being to eat it.
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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 21 October 2018, 23:10:13 »
It was pretty popular in SA over at Massdrop. So I guess opinions on the brown vary.
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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 22 October 2018, 11:24:06 »
Good Monday everyone!



It's been a little over two weeks since Chocolatier was launched and we are halfway there! We are getting closer and closer, at a good pace to the halfway point for the MOQ, and both Core and Novelties have over 100 orders!

Thanks again to everyone that has joined the group buy so far, and all the vendors for helping with this project.

Current orders
Core (MOQ 250): 115
Novelties (MOQ 250): 103
Spacebars (MOQ 150): 55
Rama x Chocolatier: 50
Last updated on October 22nd

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 06:03:27 »

Week 3 update

Good day everyone!

It's been three weeks since Chocolatier's GB started and with around a week and a half left to order the set, here is how the numbers look like:

Current orders

- Core: 127
- Novelties: 112
- Spacebars: 59
- Rama x Chocolatier: 55

Last updated on October 25th



Over the course of the last week we've received a good amount of orders, which is impressive since week two and three are usually the ones where orders slow down dramatically and almost freeze. Like I mentioned on my previous update, there's still a long stretch for the MOQs, but I'm confident that we'll reach the goals.

Thanks again to all the vendors, group buy participants and GMK themselves for supporting this project.
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 October 2018, 07:42:09 by Zambumon »

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« Reply #32 on: Wed, 31 October 2018, 23:11:05 »
In for a core set! a little concerned about MOQ but I've seen numbers spike up at the last minute before so still hopeful.

all yall boys on the fence should dive in  ;)

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 31 October 2018, 23:18:07 »
This set is going to go into my kbd setup here, I think it will look fantastic:

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« Reply #34 on: Thu, 01 November 2018, 12:24:18 »


Good day everyone!

Don't miss your chance to join GMK Chocolatier! Order window closes on November 5th (all vendor links in the OP).

The following four days will be the final sprint for this group buy, and if you are thinking about getting the set, this is the moment to do it.

Current orders
Core: 132
Novelties: 114
Spacebars: 58
Rama x Chocolatier: 58

Last updated on October 29th, not accounting for vendor extras
« Last Edit: Thu, 01 November 2018, 12:26:34 by Zambumon »

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« Reply #35 on: Thu, 01 November 2018, 20:28:15 »
I really hope we meet MOQ  :eek: I've already ordered I would hate for this to fall through

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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 08:31:13 »
I honestly don't understand how sets like Susuwatari can easily get 1000 orders, and this is struggling to even reach MOQ. This is not to say Susuwatari looks bad, because it's a nice set (especially in monochrome), but this is way more unique and interesting. And all of the really interesting stuff have been already stripped away (like blue/yellow arrows cluster) to bring the price down even more.

Anyhow, is there a chance to prolong final order day by at least 10 days more (like it was the case with SP Royalty that in the end succeded)?

Or, maybe start a new GB with more realistically set MOQ (probably 150 units)?

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« Reply #37 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 08:53:16 »
This set uses custom colors which is why the MOQ is 250.
Stock colors have MOQ of 150 but this set is unworkable under stock tbh

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« Reply #38 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 09:01:48 »
I honestly don't understand how sets like Susuwatari can easily get 1000 orders, and this is struggling to even reach MOQ. This is not to say Susuwatari looks bad, because it's a nice set (especially in monochrome), but this is way more unique and interesting. And all of the really interesting stuff have been already stripped away (like blue/yellow arrows cluster) to bring the price down even more.

Anyhow, is there a chance to prolong final order day by at least 10 days more (like it was the case with SP Royalty that in the end succeded)?

Or, maybe start a new GB with more realistically set MOQ (probably 150 units)?

There are a lot of keycap buys going on right now and more in the pipeline, hard to support every one of them.

This is pretty far from MOQ, will it go through anyway or will it be refunded?

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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 10:22:54 »
There are a lot of keycap buys going on right now and more in the pipeline, hard to support every one of them.

Very much true. I don't know what's happening with all these GB's. Past month was the worst possible time to run a GB. New KAT profile, Norbauer Heavy-6, RAMA Koyu, new generation of Zealios, SP Royalty, Matteo's Susuwatari, and then this. I would love to get all of this simultaneously, but I'm not a millionare (yet  :) ).

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This is pretty far from MOQ, will it go through anyway or will it be refunded?

I honestly hope this will be prolonged for at least ten days. I need more time to get the money.
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« Reply #40 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 12:09:15 »
There are a lot of keycap buys going on right now and more in the pipeline, hard to support every one of them.

Very much true. I don't know what's happening with all these GB's. Past month was the worst possible time to run a GB. New KAT profile, Norbauer Heavy-6, RAMA Koyu, new generation of Zealios, SP Royalty, Matteo's Susuwatari, and then this. I would love to get all of this simultaneously, but I'm not a millionare (yet  :) ).

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This is pretty far from MOQ, will it go through anyway or will it be refunded?

I honestly hope this will be prolonged for at least ten days. I need more time to get the money.

Don't forget Carbon, Royal navy and calm depths and so on and so on.

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« Reply #41 on: Fri, 02 November 2018, 23:23:28 »
I’d suggest reducing cost and MOQ would really help this groupbuy. Is there any possibility of that? Like me there may be others who are on the fence and would help us make the purchase. Will it go through even if the MOQ is not met? Would love to get this set.

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« Reply #42 on: Sat, 03 November 2018, 03:41:27 »
Just ordered my set few hours ago, wondering if we don't hit the MOQ. Will it refund or what?

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« Reply #43 on: Sat, 03 November 2018, 13:14:50 »
If a set doesn't reach MOQ, the GB runner will usually plead with GMK and ask them if they'll still run it.
If they say no then your money will get refunded.
90% sure this set will make it though with the help of proxies helping out :)

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« Reply #44 on: Sat, 03 November 2018, 13:16:18 »
These numbers don’t include the extras that proxies are going to purchase. I know that with just the extras that NovelKeys will purchase we are pretty darn close to MOQ.

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« Reply #45 on: Sat, 03 November 2018, 13:23:36 »
Thanks for answering, hope everything going well.


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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 04 November 2018, 11:56:28 »
Just Joined the GB.
Hopefully will reach the MOQ.
And hopefully the Chocolate outcome is not too dark, cause i like my Chocolate a bit milky.

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 04 November 2018, 12:06:20 »
These numbers don’t include the extras that proxies are going to purchase. I know that with just the extras that NovelKeys will purchase we are pretty darn close to MOQ.


At what time exactly does the order window close on your website? Is it at the end of the day (e.g. 11:59pm on 11/5) of the noted date or at the beginning (12:01am on 11/5)?

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 04 November 2018, 13:44:53 »
Last call to join GMK Chocolatier! Orders close on November 5th

Current orders:

Core: 236
Novelties: 199
Spacebars: 88

Last updated on November 2nd

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Re: [GB] GMK Chocolatier - Available for pre-order!
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 04 November 2018, 14:41:02 »
These numbers don’t include the extras that proxies are going to purchase. I know that with just the extras that NovelKeys will purchase we are pretty darn close to MOQ.


At what time exactly does the order window close on your website? Is it at the end of the day (e.g. 11:59pm on 11/5) of the noted date or at the beginning (12:01am on 11/5)?


It will go to the end of 11/5 on my site.