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Title: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 30 June 2016, 05:56:52
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Thu, 30 June 2016, 09:56:08
I asked, but no dice yet. I actually kinda want those caps, and hope they're a bit better and cheaper than Datamancer's.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: xtrafrood on Thu, 30 June 2016, 13:46:15
I like how the Magicforce logo looks with those 'typewriter' keycaps. Seems to blend in a little better with all the excitement.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: Moistgun on Thu, 30 June 2016, 14:44:10
I like how the Magicforce logo looks with those 'typewriter' keycaps. Seems to blend in a little better with all the excitement.

Definitely looks better than the magicforce stock caps  ^-^
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 30 June 2016, 15:16:06
I like how the Magicforce logo looks with those 'typewriter' keycaps. Seems to blend in a little better with all the excitement.

Exactly!

Although I have a feeling those keycaps do look better on a metal case.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: chuckdee on Thu, 30 June 2016, 15:19:13
Is it bad that I'm considering getting the board just to get the caps?  :-[
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: eksuen on Thu, 30 June 2016, 15:36:44
Is it bad that I'm considering getting the board just to get the caps?  :-[

Not at all.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: SKD on Thu, 30 June 2016, 16:08:32
Can't decide if I want to buy that board, always wanted a magicforce. But I have a second 60% in the mail already...
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Thu, 30 June 2016, 16:52:00
I asked, but no dice yet. I actually kinda want those caps, and hope they're a bit better and cheaper than Datamancer's.

+1, they look really cool.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 30 June 2016, 21:42:37
Is it bad that I'm considering getting the board just to get the caps?  :-[

Yes, 'cause it's not a full ANSI set on that board and you'd have gaps if you tried to use the keycaps on other boards.

Even a 60% would be missing one of the modifiers, and using a standard keycap in its place would be sacrilege!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: timerwin63 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 21:44:23
IMO the best "typewriter"-styled keycaps are the ones on the QWERKYWRITER:

(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0557/2745/t/9/assets/slide-2-image.jpg)

I don't know where to source them, though. As for the caps on the Magicforce, I remember seeing something like them on Taobao in a 104-key set a couple months ago. I'll see if I can't dig them back up.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 30 June 2016, 21:46:35
IMO the best "typewriter"-styled keycaps are the ones on the QWERKYWRITER:

Show Image
(http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0557/2745/t/9/assets/slide-2-image.jpg)


I don't know where to source them, though. As for the caps on the Magicforce, I remember seeing something like them on Taobao in a 104-key set a couple months ago. I'll see if I can't dig them back up.

I think I prefer the Massdrop one - 1x keycaps on the modifiers don't quite look right.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: timerwin63 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 22:05:06
I think I prefer the Massdrop one - 1x keycaps on the modifiers don't quite look right.

I agree with you about the modifiers. I was speaking more of the general aesthetic, though.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Thu, 30 June 2016, 22:05:17
Is there a transparent layer over the Massdrop ones? It seems like the legends are printed on the black plastic.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: timerwin63 on Thu, 30 June 2016, 22:11:39
Is there a transparent layer over the Massdrop ones? It seems like the legends are printed on the black plastic.

This picture makes it look like really thin pads or maybe infilled laser etching. Doesn't look like there's any kind of protective layer on it, though:

(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard/MD-21938_20160622124549_bc41b1d6a2f11eaf.jpg)

I guess I was wrong about the Taobao typewriter caps, too. The only ones I can seem to find are the ones on this board (https://world.taobao.com/item/523188598023.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.RNca0L).
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Thu, 30 June 2016, 22:28:04
Is there a transparent layer over the Massdrop ones? It seems like the legends are printed on the black plastic.

This picture makes it look like really thin pads or maybe infilled laser etching. Doesn't look like there's any kind of protective layer on it, though:

Show Image
(https://massdrop-s3.imgix.net/product-images/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard/MD-21938_20160622124549_bc41b1d6a2f11eaf.jpg)


I guess I was wrong about the Taobao typewriter caps, too. The only ones I can seem to find are the ones on this board (https://world.taobao.com/item/523188598023.htm?spm=a312a.7700714.0.0.RNca0L).

If it's in the actual plastic (whether laser or otherwise) I don't mind much. I actually prefer that over the layered shell, and I really, really hope these come in a 104 kit.  :p
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 01 July 2016, 00:02:51
These (Massdrop) would be custom-made, do you think?

That they exactly fit a (more or less) TKL keyboard seems suspicious, given the lengths that some steam punk players go to to make actual archaic typewriter keys fit a modern keyboard.

If so, perhaps there will be a drop or something for the keycap sets.

They'll need up to 397 sets of the keycaps as it is, just for this drop!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: G.C.W. on Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:26:35
https://world.taobao.com/search/search.htm?_ksTS=1467382559319_20&spm=a21bp.7806943.20151106.1&search_type=0&_input_charset=utf-8&navigator=all&json=on&q=打字机%20键帽打字&cna=AVWhDwBO6B4CAVQs8V5%2FP164&callback=__jsonp_cb&abtest=_AB-LR517-LR854-LR895-PR517-PR854-PV895_2462

What is it with the chinese picturing a steam punk keyboard with a book, a pen, scissors?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Fri, 01 July 2016, 12:50:22
https://world.taobao.com/search/search.htm?_ksTS=1467382559319_20&spm=a21bp.7806943.20151106.1&search_type=0&_input_charset=utf-8&navigator=all&json=on&q=打字机%20键帽打字&cna=AVWhDwBO6B4CAVQs8V5%2FP164&callback=__jsonp_cb&abtest=_AB-LR517-LR854-LR895-PR517-PR854-PV895_2462

What is it with the chinese picturing a steam punk keyboard with a book, a pen, scissors?

Hey, thanks for that search link!  ;)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 02 July 2016, 19:31:15
https://world.taobao.com/search/search.htm?_ksTS=1467382559319_20&spm=a21bp.7806943.20151106.1&search_type=0&_input_charset=utf-8&navigator=all&json=on&q=打字机%20键帽打字&cna=AVWhDwBO6B4CAVQs8V5%2FP164&callback=__jsonp_cb&abtest=_AB-LR517-LR854-LR895-PR517-PR854-PV895_2462

What is it with the chinese picturing a steam punk keyboard with a book, a pen, scissors?

By the look of the shapes and colours of keycaps in those pics, looks like there are a few places making them.

Hopefully they will appear in the western world so as to be a bit more accessible at some stage.

Thanks :)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: duhhey on Mon, 04 July 2016, 20:06:45
OOOOOoooooo
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 04 July 2016, 20:38:19
OOOOOoooooo

Yeeeeeeee
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: vivalarevolución on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:34:56
I can't imagine these actually are efficient to type on.  Look cool, though.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Thu, 07 July 2016, 10:36:47
I can't imagine these actually are efficient to type on.  Look cool, though.

The only caps I'd get just so they can look pretty on my board.
Besides my one SA set, of course.  :))
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: dustigroove on Thu, 07 July 2016, 11:23:02
Blitwin posted the below link in the discussion on Massdrop. It has photos of a "Lexking" badged version of the MF board (in black) with Typewriter keycaps:

https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205 (https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205)

Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 07 July 2016, 15:18:25
Blitwin posted the below link in the discussion on Massdrop. It has photos of a "Lexking" badged version of the MF board (in black) with Typewriter keycaps:

https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205 (https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205)

That one has 1x modifiers on the bottom row and a 1x Tab. That kinda irks me a bit, especially the Tab.

The Massdrop one has 1.25x bottom row modifiers, and a proper sized Tab.  Looks much better to me :)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: dustigroove on Thu, 07 July 2016, 15:38:51


Blitwin posted the below link in the discussion on Massdrop. It has photos of a "Lexking" badged version of the MF board (in black) with Typewriter keycaps:

https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205 (https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205)

That one has 1x modifiers on the bottom row and a 1x Tab. That kinda irks me a bit, especially the Tab.

The Massdrop one has 1.25x bottom row modifiers, and a proper sized Tab.  Looks much better to me :)

I unfortunately don't read Chinese, and that page was way tl;dr it all... but from what I gathered through Google Translate, they have been working with the manufacturer (Lester?) of that typewriter set and the photos were of their agreed upon specifications for an "early bird" purchase.

I mainly reposted the link in the event that it's relevant to finding the set on it's own (and to give folks an idea of what the black case with typewriter keycaps looks like).

Agreed that the Massdrop version looks cleaner with the larger modifiers!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Thu, 07 July 2016, 21:47:50


Blitwin posted the below link in the discussion on Massdrop. It has photos of a "Lexking" badged version of the MF board (in black) with Typewriter keycaps:

https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205 (https://uccu.cool3c.com/projects/205)

That one has 1x modifiers on the bottom row and a 1x Tab. That kinda irks me a bit, especially the Tab.

The Massdrop one has 1.25x bottom row modifiers, and a proper sized Tab.  Looks much better to me :)

I unfortunately don't read Chinese, and that page was way tl;dr it all... but from what I gathered through Google Translate, they have been working with the manufacturer (Lester?) of that typewriter set and the photos were of their agreed upon specifications for an "early bird" purchase.

I mainly reposted the link in the event that it's relevant to finding the set on it's own (and to give folks an idea of what the black case with typewriter keycaps looks like).

Agreed that the Massdrop version looks cleaner with the larger modifiers!

Thanks for the link and info, much appreciated :)

Given that Massdrop is currently nearly 850 orders, and probably a good few of those might have been mainly for the keycaps, there has to be someone out there making these sets in bulk.

Hopefully one day they will be available separately.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: Parzival on Fri, 15 July 2016, 22:36:25
Datamancer sells typewriter keys
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Fri, 15 July 2016, 23:24:59
Datamancer sells typewriter keys

Yes, but we're looking at alternatives.  ;)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 16 July 2016, 05:36:27
Datamancer sells typewriter keys

Yes, but we're looking at alternatives.  ;)

Cheap, mass-produced alternatives ;)
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: bloorocket on Wed, 27 July 2016, 21:53:41
Check out Datamancers keycaps, its pretty similar
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Wed, 27 July 2016, 22:00:47
Check out Datamancers keycaps, its pretty similar

Those are pretty expensive, instead, I'd buy a GMK set, but if they were cheaper, I'd try them anytime.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: bloorocket on Wed, 27 July 2016, 22:16:37
Check out Datamancers keycaps, its pretty similar

Those are pretty expensive, instead, I'd buy a GMK set, but if they were cheaper, I'd try them anytime.

GMK fans are really hyped abt Carbon, didnt expect 2k orders lol. But yeah Datamancers are overpriced
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 26 September 2016, 17:45:45
Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Mon, 26 September 2016, 18:36:46
Pad printed? LOL.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 26 September 2016, 20:46:46
Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?

I got 'em on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens. No issues with the wide stems interfering during the downstroke. I think the keys are kind of neat. I doubt they are chrome-plated, though. If they are anything like the ones that came with the Magicforce, it's definitely just shiny plastic on the edges.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:02:57
Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?

I got 'em on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens. No issues with the wide stems interfering during the downstroke. I think the keys are kind of neat. I doubt they are chrome-plated, though. If they are anything like the ones that came with the Magicforce, it's definitely just shiny plastic on the edges.

How do they feel? Not bad?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: eksuen on Mon, 26 September 2016, 21:15:04
Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?

I got 'em on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens. No issues with the wide stems interfering during the downstroke. I think the keys are kind of neat. I doubt they are chrome-plated, though. If they are anything like the ones that came with the Magicforce, it's definitely just shiny plastic on the edges.

How do they feel? Not bad?

Not bad at all. Probably have to spend some time to get used to them since they have less surface area than what I'm used to. I find myself missing some keystrokes simply because I'm not fully hitting the key where I usually get away with hitting a key offcenter. I cannot see myself using these keycaps as daily drivers, but that was never the intention anyway. They're just kind of cool.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: nemui on Tue, 27 September 2016, 03:07:28
I just received my Magicforce drop too (Gateron Browns) and I agree with eksuen. The typewriter caps are different, but I haven't had any problem with sticky keys yet (most of the complaints seem to be about that).
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: keyladding on Tue, 27 September 2016, 09:21:48
/r/MechanicalKeyboards user doesn't like them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/54kig6/buying_typewriter_abs_keycap_set_on_massdrop/d835w9h

Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Tue, 27 September 2016, 09:39:26
Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?

I got 'em on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens. No issues with the wide stems interfering during the downstroke. I think the keys are kind of neat. I doubt they are chrome-plated, though. If they are anything like the ones that came with the Magicforce, it's definitely just shiny plastic on the edges.

How do they feel? Not bad?

Not bad at all. Probably have to spend some time to get used to them since they have less surface area than what I'm used to. I find myself missing some keystrokes simply because I'm not fully hitting the key where I usually get away with hitting a key offcenter. I cannot see myself using these keycaps as daily drivers, but that was never the intention anyway. They're just kind of cool.

If anything, I'd get them for the aspect of novelty.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 27 September 2016, 10:29:46
/r/MechanicalKeyboards user doesn't like them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/54kig6/buying_typewriter_abs_keycap_set_on_massdrop/d835w9h



Can't say I share his experience and sentiments. I don't have any issues with sticking or rubbing keys. I don't know if the sticky keys issue happens with Cherry or Gateron switches.

Yay!

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/typewriter-abs-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Any thoughts (apart from ABS, pad-printed and weird stems)?

I got 'em on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens. No issues with the wide stems interfering during the downstroke. I think the keys are kind of neat. I doubt they are chrome-plated, though. If they are anything like the ones that came with the Magicforce, it's definitely just shiny plastic on the edges.

How do they feel? Not bad?

Not bad at all. Probably have to spend some time to get used to them since they have less surface area than what I'm used to. I find myself missing some keystrokes simply because I'm not fully hitting the key where I usually get away with hitting a key offcenter. I cannot see myself using these keycaps as daily drivers, but that was never the intention anyway. They're just kind of cool.

If anything, I'd get them for the aspect of novelty.

Yeah, pretty much why I got them.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:39:03
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:45:59
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

The keyboard would sound the same with most key caps, no need to get these cheap pad printed ones, while you can have a high quality OG Cherry or GMK set on your board.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:48:55
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

The keyboard would sound the same with most key caps, no need to get these cheap pad printed ones, while you can have a high quality OG Cherry or GMK set on your board.

Yes, but it wouldn't look like a typewriter with those keycaps.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Tue, 27 September 2016, 12:58:25
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

The keyboard would sound the same with most key caps, no need to get these cheap pad printed ones, while you can have a high quality OG Cherry or GMK set on your board.

Yes, but it wouldn't look like a typewriter with those keycaps.

Of course, if what you want is to stare at your keyboard; but most, want it to type on, those type writer style key caps are not made for modern keyboards for a reason, your modern board does not have levelers anymore, but switches that can be activated with contoured and ergonomic key caps, not by flat circles better adapted as a leveler's ends. But be my guess, if you want to put your money on this, who am I to tell you otherwise, get your retro style key caps they may look very cute on your desk.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:13:30
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

The keyboard would sound the same with most key caps, no need to get these cheap pad printed ones, while you can have a high quality OG Cherry or GMK set on your board.

Yes, but it wouldn't look like a typewriter with those keycaps.

Of course, if what you want is to stare at your keyboard; but most, want it to type on, those type writer style key caps are not made for modern keyboards for a reason, your modern board does not have levelers anymore, but switches that can be activated with contoured and ergonomic key caps, not by flat circles better adapted as a leveler's ends. But be my guess, if you want to put your money on this, who am I to tell you otherwise, get your retro style key caps they may look very cute on your desk.

I think it goes without saying that the whole point of keycaps like these is to look cute on a desk. And they are probably no less usable than the keys on a Corona 3. If that was good enough for Hemingway, it is good enough for the likes of us.  :p
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: eksuen on Tue, 27 September 2016, 13:25:24
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

Yeah, I got them on a Magicforce with Gateron Greens for this very reason. It doesn't quite compare to a typewriter (I have a portable one), but I suppose it's the closest you can get with modern mechanical keyboards. Definitely makes for an interesting conversation piece.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Tue, 27 September 2016, 14:16:24
With the right switch, you could get a nice manual typewriter simulation. How fun would it be to put these on a Pok3r with MX Blues and get kicked out of every coffee shop in L.A.!

The keyboard would sound the same with most key caps, no need to get these cheap pad printed ones, while you can have a high quality OG Cherry or GMK set on your board.

Yes, but it wouldn't look like a typewriter with those keycaps.

Of course, if what you want is to stare at your keyboard; but most, want it to type on, those type writer style key caps are not made for modern keyboards for a reason, your modern board does not have levelers anymore, but switches that can be activated with contoured and ergonomic key caps, not by flat circles better adapted as a leveler's ends. But be my guess, if you want to put your money on this, who am I to tell you otherwise, get your retro style key caps they may look very cute on your desk.

I think it goes without saying that the whole point of keycaps like these is to look cute on a desk. And they are probably no less usable than the keys on a Corona 3. If that was good enough for Hemingway, it is good enough for the likes of us.  :p

Well. Hemingway argument warrants against any possible answer,  :p
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: captsis on Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:48:32
are they these (https://datamancer.com/product/datamancer-classic-typewriter-keycaps/)? They look like they'd be a ***** to actually type on. :/
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:51:59
are they these (https://datamancer.com/product/datamancer-classic-typewriter-keycaps/)? They look like they'd be a ***** to actually type on. :/

No, they aren't.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: captsis on Tue, 27 September 2016, 20:56:11
are they these (https://datamancer.com/product/datamancer-classic-typewriter-keycaps/)? They look like they'd be a ***** to actually type on. :/

No, they aren't.

Then what, some cheapo taobao set that massdrop bought?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 30 September 2016, 05:17:10
I'm in two minds about these.

Pad printing - probably wear off sooner rather than later.  It's very disappointing when a keycap set shows wear after not too long, regardless of the cost.

Stems - square and apparently less compatible with Cherry switches, but better with Gateron switches.  All my MX-like keyboards have Cherry switches.

Plastic "chrome" - rubs off after a while?  Most plastic "chrome" I've seen tends to wear in places, and once worn stays that way.  These would look terrible with worn patches on the edges.

Still 4 days left, I might talk myself back in to them, but probably not.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Fri, 30 September 2016, 12:04:39
You have to ask yourself, how much would you type on them if you had them on a board? Would they be on your daily driver if they were more high-end?

I think of these as novelty caps, and I doubt I would use them all the time. It would probably take quite a while for the legends to wear off or the faux chrome to wear off. Maybe by the time that happens, someone will have a GB up and running for a high-quality take on this idea.

I too am on the fence as to whether to pick up a set.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 30 September 2016, 16:19:30
That one has 1x modifiers on the bottom row and a 1x Tab. That kinda irks me a bit, especially the Tab.
If you are going to be correct with how typewriters of the era were then all keys should be circular except for the Space Bar.

More over, typewriters were often very stepped. The keys should be slanted forwards to emulate that and to provide a better typing experience, not be flat like a chiclet keyboard.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Fri, 30 September 2016, 16:51:10
Technically true. However, I think the goal is to have a manual typewriter aesthetic without the (awkward) manual typewriter experience. Conforming to the layout of the keyboard these keys would be mounted on makes the most sense to me.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 October 2016, 04:03:17
You have to ask yourself, how much would you type on them if you had them on a board? Would they be on your daily driver if they were more high-end?

I think of these as novelty caps, and I doubt I would use them all the time. It would probably take quite a while for the legends to wear off or the faux chrome to wear off. Maybe by the time that happens, someone will have a GB up and running for a high-quality take on this idea.

I too am on the fence as to whether to pick up a set.

Daily driver at work is now SSK.

Daily driver at home changes, but is sometimes something with MX switches.

So they would be used occasionally at home.

Given how many keycap sets I have, and given the reservations about these, I will leave them for now.  If they are re-run in a few months, I might reconsider.

The old trick - imagine you have the money in one hand and the keycaps in the other.  Which would you rather keep.  For me it is the money this time.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 October 2016, 14:19:17
There are a few keyboards and keycap sets like these on eBay now.  One notes that they are "super rare" - obviously hasn't seen Massdrop.

Also they are available in pink (albeit with a keyboard in this listing), which suggests that they will be more generally available at some stage, and not just a passing thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/68keys-SteamPunk-Retro-vintage-typewriter-mechanical-keyboard-blue-switch-/222268597737

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Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Sun, 02 October 2016, 15:39:50
There are a few keyboards and keycap sets like these on eBay now.  One notes that they are "super rare" - obviously hasn't seen Massdrop.

Also they are available in pink (albeit with a keyboard in this listing), which suggests that they will be more generally available at some stage, and not just a passing thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/68keys-SteamPunk-Retro-vintage-typewriter-mechanical-keyboard-blue-switch-/222268597737

(Attachment Link)

Any blue ones?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Sun, 02 October 2016, 21:05:28
There are a few keyboards and keycap sets like these on eBay now.  One notes that they are "super rare" - obviously hasn't seen Massdrop.

Also they are available in pink (albeit with a keyboard in this listing), which suggests that they will be more generally available at some stage, and not just a passing thing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/68keys-SteamPunk-Retro-vintage-typewriter-mechanical-keyboard-blue-switch-/222268597737

(Attachment Link)

Any blue ones?

I wasn't looking, I just saw that linked from something else I was looking for.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: Barndenn on Wed, 05 October 2016, 12:53:32
Does anyone know of or have a picture of the typewriter keycaps with backlighting?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: SpecTP on Wed, 05 October 2016, 15:29:42
I got this with MX cherry black and they are pretty good. Not using them much since the pad printing won't last too long to my abuse.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 05 October 2016, 20:49:28
Does anyone know of or have a picture of the typewriter keycaps with backlighting?

There's a picture or two in the Massdrop comments showing backlighting.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 25 October 2016, 16:03:37
For fans of MX Blue switches, it is worth noting that you won't hear the switch click over the noise of bottoming out with these keycaps. Due to their design, there is no way for silencing rings to have any effect on dampening the downstroke. The combination of bottoming out and upstroke noise will drown out the sound of the switch's internal click leaf.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 25 October 2016, 20:45:39
I wonder what this profile would be called.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: ideus on Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:14:13
The "Flat and Ugly Retro"?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 26 October 2016, 20:49:56
The "Flat and Ugly Retro"?

:))
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: jgodinez302 on Tue, 08 November 2016, 17:40:36
As someone mentioned before Datamancer makes them as well and yes they are quite a bit more.... however the quality is far superior to those on massdrop/ebay. I've visited Datamancer before for the SoCal meet up and got to see how bunch of them are made there. Definitely will last a lot longer and they are much heavier considering they are made out of actual metal and not plastic.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: DestroyerOfIphone on Wed, 16 November 2016, 01:57:43
I found these keycaps ;D https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TYPEWRITER-abs-keycaps-punk-wind-restoring-ancient-ways-TYPEWRITER-style-mechanical-keyboard-keys/32750537875.html?spm=2114.01010208.3.1.sJG3be&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_5_10065_10056_10068_10055_10054_10059_10078_10079_10084_10083_10073_10080_10070_10096_10082_10081_10060_423_10061_10052_10062_10050_424_10051,searchweb201603_2&btsid=9fb86fb3-8085-41e9-96f9-1fa3703924bf
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Wed, 16 November 2016, 12:52:26
Yes, that is the same set that was sold through MassDrop.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: menuhin on Wed, 16 November 2016, 13:37:41
As someone mentioned before Datamancer makes them as well and yes they are quite a bit more.... however the quality is far superior to those on massdrop/ebay. I've visited Datamancer before for the SoCal meet up and got to see how bunch of them are made there. Definitely will last a lot longer and they are much heavier considering they are made out of actual metal and not plastic.

Is 'Datamancer' a factory or a company? Or is that a person?
Didn't some forum member say 'Datamancer' committed suicide a few years ago?

It's becoming more and more mysterious.

I would guess Datamancer's offer would be of much much higher quality. On DT, someone from the UK is offering wooden version with ISO UK layout by the way.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Wed, 16 November 2016, 16:31:13
Datamancer is a company. It used to be led by its founder, who is no longer with us apparently.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 29 November 2016, 19:53:12
A set that is halfway between Datamancer and Massdrop sets would probably be best.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: captsis on Tue, 29 November 2016, 20:07:16
A set that is halfway between Datamancer and Massdrop sets would probably be best.

good or cheap. pick one.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 30 November 2016, 19:59:57
A set that is halfway between Datamancer and Massdrop sets would probably be best.

good or cheap. pick one.

Harder to pick than a broken nose!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: buckyballs on Sun, 11 December 2016, 21:33:55
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)

Standard layout means they have a apps key is it?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Sun, 11 December 2016, 21:47:06
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)

Standard layout means they have a apps key is it?

Yeah, the Menu key.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 12 December 2016, 19:58:50
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)

Standard layout means they have a apps key is it?

Sort of, although it was more in reference to the keycap size i.e. 1.25 1.25 1.25 6.25 1.25 1.25 1.25 1.25
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 19 December 2016, 13:07:19
Square stems seem to be becoming more "popular": https://www.massdrop.com/buy/dot-eh112-bluetooth-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

Also white ones like the original ones are now available: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/retro-white-typewriter-keycap-set?mode=guest_open

Although both are still ABS and have the square stem.  The first set is customised for that particular keyboard, but based on the stem could very well be made by the same manufacturer, unless others are jumping on the square stem bandwagon.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: classiccarguy92 on Tue, 27 December 2016, 02:03:20
I'm actually working on a build using a cm board with cherry blues on it. The plan is to design it to work and look like an old typewriter so that's why I went with the blues because they have a similar sound to an old typewriter. I can't wait until it's finished. 
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 27 December 2016, 04:13:23
I'm actually working on a build using a cm board with cherry blues on it. The plan is to design it to work and look like an old typewriter so that's why I went with the blues because they have a similar sound to an old typewriter. I can't wait until it's finished. 

Blues (and greens) and more a "tick tick tick" sound, whereas typewriters were "clack clack clack".

But they are probably closer than most other MX(-compatible) switches.

If you prefer heavier switches, MX greens are great!
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 27 December 2016, 11:41:09
I did this very same experiment myself and found that MX blues have such a soft "click" sound that it is drowned out by all the bottom-out and upstroke noise. The result is a typing clatter that doesn't resemble the noise of manual typewriters at all, but you probably won't get any closer with any other MX switch, not even a different clicky MX switch.

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Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: superpiya on Fri, 30 December 2016, 00:22:46
These keycaps are beautiful, but are they comfortable to type on?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: majstor on Thu, 05 January 2017, 15:59:09
Wooden version of typewriters keys .[attachimg=1]
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Fri, 06 January 2017, 23:07:19
Wooden version of typewriters keys . (Attachment Link)

Neato! Got a link?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: majstor on Sat, 07 January 2017, 12:36:14
No, I do not have a link but it's my work..
This is of cherry
(http://)
and before is the oak
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Mon, 23 January 2017, 20:01:16
They look really well done!

Does the wood split or wear over time, especially the stem (if removed and reinserted many times)?
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: romevi on Mon, 23 January 2017, 20:13:45
No, I do not have a link but it's my work..
This is of cherry
Show Image
(http://)

and before is the oak

I just saw your response. Very impressive indeed! You should make more.  :p
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: OfTheWild on Tue, 24 January 2017, 01:06:09
They look really well done!

Does the wood split or wear over time, especially the stem (if removed and reinserted many times)?

I would imagine so with seasonal changes in humidity as well. I would want to stabilize the wood before using it.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: bmmcwhirt on Tue, 24 January 2017, 08:36:24
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)

This is an alternative option.
http://www.banggood.com/104-Key-Steampunk-ABS-Retro-Circular-Keycaps-For-Mechanical-Keyboard-p-1112262.html?rmmds=search
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: majstor on Tue, 24 January 2017, 16:52:56
They look really well done!

Does the wood split or wear over time, especially the stem (if removed and reinserted many times)?

They look really well done!

Does the wood split or wear over time, especially the stem (if removed and reinserted many times)?

I would imagine so with seasonal changes in humidity as well. I would want to stabilize the wood before using it.

 Wood naturally must be properly processed but is not affected by moisture, water and alcohol. After 2 years of use ( other keys of course and not those from the above images)  i do not have a need for polishing. Cross is made from ABS  .
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 31 January 2017, 20:04:36
So there's a drop for a Magicforce 68-Key Mini Mechanical Keyboard with special typewriter keycaps:

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/magicforce-68-key-mini-mechanical-keyboard?mode=guest_open

This is not a full TKL ANSI set of keycaps though, although the bottom row is the standard layout.

Anyone know if these keycaps (preferably a full US ANSI TKL set) are available separately?

Thanks :)

This is an alternative option.
http://www.banggood.com/104-Key-Steampunk-ABS-Retro-Circular-Keycaps-For-Mechanical-Keyboard-p-1112262.html?rmmds=search

Still got those rectangular stems though ...
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: rowdy on Tue, 07 March 2017, 13:08:50
There's these now: https://www.massdrop.com/buy/datamancer-typewriter-keys?mode=guest_open

The real deal, however I'm not too keen on the typeface used on the legends, the stems are not shown, and the modifiers are different sizes and shapes and don't line up and that would really bug me each time I saw the keyboard.
Title: Re: "Typewriter" keycaps like on Massdrop
Post by: zslane on Tue, 07 March 2017, 13:20:39
Datamancer only used to have two sizes of keycaps: 1u and 1.25u. That made keyboards look even weirder than what you're seeing in that new drop. Now it looks like they have a third size, something close to 2u, which certainly helps, but is still not quite perfect for standard keyboards today. I'm pretty confident the stems are cylindrical, not rectangular like the cheapo ones that come with the MagicForce "typewriter" board.