[IC] AKI-S 65% | Renovated #1 | New info much amazing, so wow [21/4/21]

[shinz0]

really interesting design. i like it but i'm having trouble with the side view

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is the red flush with the top case?

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looks flush on this angle too

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but exploded view makes it look like it's recessed? lul what am i missing here.

I'm assuming you're asking the middle piece
It's a middle brass weight that holds the plate and PCB tgt in between top and bottom case.

yes, i'm talking about the middle brass weight. is it flush on the sides with the top case?

[Zylkan]

Before I fill in that IC form. Is there any idea on the price range yet?
Just to know if I'm losing my time

Thanks

Looking at around 350, we will try to push it sub 350
currently we are still unknown of this because the blueprint has not locked down and finalized yet
there are still some changes need to be made here and there, which will affect the price eventually

Thank you very much!

Cheers

[AnomalousFox]

Absolutely Beautiful. Hoping this makes it to production.a

[senryo]

really interesting design. i like it but i'm having trouble with the side view

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is the red flush with the top case?

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looks flush on this angle too

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but exploded view makes it look like it's recessed? lul what am i missing here.

I'm assuming you're asking the middle piece
It's a middle brass weight that holds the plate and PCB tgt in between top and bottom case.

yes, i'm talking about the middle brass weight. is it flush on the sides with the top case?

Nope, the top case will protrude a bit

[Moridin]

This is a very nice design, however the non-standard bottom row is a deal-breaker for me.

I'd need a 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 bottom row at the least (with arrows to the right of course).

[delrn]

This is a very nice design, however the non-standard bottom row is a deal-breaker for me.

I'd need a 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 bottom row at the least (with arrows to the right of course).

This is a very standard Tsangan layout bottom row, most GMK sets will have compatibility OOTB with it.


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[Vadurr]

Def in for one of these. Any chance we can get a working Bluetooth pcb for this? o.o

[Moridin]

This is a very nice design, however the non-standard bottom row is a deal-breaker for me.

I'd need a 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 bottom row at the least (with arrows to the right of course).

This is a very standard Tsangan layout bottom row, most GMK sets will have compatibility OOTB with it.


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Sorry, meant non-standard for me. And that's a WK layout AFAIK. Traditional tsangan is 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5, right?

[ElKapitain]

That looks awesome, I really like the matte black/red version. Hope to get on this Gb as my first one 

[delrn]

This is a very nice design, however the non-standard bottom row is a deal-breaker for me.

I'd need a 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 bottom row at the least (with arrows to the right of course).

This is a very standard Tsangan layout bottom row, most GMK sets will have compatibility OOTB with it.


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Sorry, meant non-standard for me. And that's a WK layout AFAIK. Traditional tsangan is 1.5 - 1 - 1.5 - 7 - 1.5 - 1 - 1.5, right?

Yes that’s the traditional Tsangan bottom row, it’s not possible to have a full-width one as well as arrow keys on a 65% like this though, so the two rightmost keys are left out. WKL is pure preference though, gotta agree with that - I prefer the symmetry you get with the WKL blocker but that’s always up to the designer.


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[jonckr]

This is a really clean design. I'm in

[senryo]

Update Summary:
28-2-2020
- sticker vs engraving, 50/50; I'm more of a sticker guy because engraving is like either you're all for it or against it, its permanent and it may not appeal to those who opt for clean top view

sales style
- will probably just have a button on the google form since the battle is probably fierce
(which means you'll just have to submit the form without filling any info to fight for the spot)
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20 spots]
(2) trivia quiz, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots]
for (2) to work, I must be sure that there will be enough entries and the battle for the spots is fierce, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and complicate the matter for no good reason; which is why I will be releasing 2nd IC check before the GB starts so I could gather a more accurate sample size on how many interested parties are involved on the plate.
- I will communicate with factory first and see how it goes, if it goes well, then optional case combo + accent; otherwise, set case combo + optional accent bar

edit: for clarification

[noodleman]

i suggest doing a raffle instead to be fair for everyone.

[senryo]

i suggest doing a raffle instead to be fair for everyone.

I am contemplating on a thought - allocating 10 spots for other kind of sales type that is not determined by internet speed
it will not be vickrey, probably a trivia quiz. But for this to work, I must be sure that there are A LOT of entries; otherwise it'd be a waste of time and complicating matters for no good reason.

[noodleman]

would likely be less work for you if you just keep it simple an open a time limit for entry forms, and you run a raffle and have it over with.

This way it's fair for people all around the world depending on when you have the entry forms open.

[sirieous]

If this hits a 350 or less price point I'm going to drool for this board

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[Adan4Real]

This is absolutely beautiful to me. Love the design, especially the bottom row. WKL 65% is like the perfect layout to me. Can't wait for this to run, the pc version is my favorite though with a different accent bar would be awesome. Looking forward to any updates!

[Vox_PT]

This keyboard is looking good! 
If you can make the polycarb happen, then I'm all over this. I love the layout and the split backspace support / WKL bottom row.

[Ramzh]

I need this.

Anyway to get notified when GB is live?

[kaisn]

I need this.

Anyway to get notified when GB is live?

Join Discord

[SpaceIncorporated]

Love this design, right up my alley. I'll definitely be in on this.

[dbeats824]

Is there any way this gets expanded to more than a super limited run?

[senryo]

I need this.

Anyway to get notified when GB is live?

You could subscribe to the newsletter on our site, join our Discord server for constant and latest updates or tune in to our Instagram where it will provide instant updates when GB is close. Thank you for your support and interest!

This keyboard is looking good! 
If you can make the polycarb happen, then I'm all over this. I love the layout and the split backspace support / WKL bottom row.

Yep, Poly is now an option

Is there any way this gets expanded to more than a super limited run?

If the reception of this turns out to be widely praised and the demand is still very high after the GB, we will consider a R2

[senryo]

Update Summary:
28-2-2020
- sticker vs engraving, 50/50; I'm more of a sticker guy because engraving is like either you're all for it or against it, its permanent and it may not appeal to those who opt for clean top view

sales style
- will probably just have a button on the google form since the battle is probably fierce
(which means you'll just have to submit the form without filling any info to fight for the spot)
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20 spots]
(2) trivia quiz, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots]
for (2) to work, I must be sure that there will be enough entries and the battle for the spots is fierce, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and complicate the matter for no good reason; which is why I will be releasing 2nd IC check before the GB starts so I could gather a more accurate sample size on how many interested parties are involved on the plate.
- I will communicate with factory first and see how it goes, if it goes well, then optional case combo + accent; otherwise, set case combo + optional accent bar

edit: for clarification

in regard to the above, I've made some adjustments.

Sales Style
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20-25 spots]
(2) trivia quiz / raffle, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots] <<< this will be decided in 2nd IC by you all

(i) trivia quiz reading materials will be accessible to all before the quiz starts. The idea is to make you feel you're fighting/earning the spot instead of praying for RNGod
(ii) raffle will be pure luck.

[sirieous]

Update Summary:
28-2-2020
- sticker vs engraving, 50/50; I'm more of a sticker guy because engraving is like either you're all for it or against it, its permanent and it may not appeal to those who opt for clean top view

sales style
- will probably just have a button on the google form since the battle is probably fierce
(which means you'll just have to submit the form without filling any info to fight for the spot)
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20 spots]
(2) trivia quiz, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots]
for (2) to work, I must be sure that there will be enough entries and the battle for the spots is fierce, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and complicate the matter for no good reason; which is why I will be releasing 2nd IC check before the GB starts so I could gather a more accurate sample size on how many interested parties are involved on the plate.
- I will communicate with factory first and see how it goes, if it goes well, then optional case combo + accent; otherwise, set case combo + optional accent bar

edit: for clarification

in regard to the above, I've made some adjustments.

Sales Style
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20-25 spots]
(2) trivia quiz / raffle, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots] <<< this will be decided in 2nd IC by you all

(i) trivia quiz reading materials will be accessible to all before the quiz starts. The idea is to make you feel you're fighting/earning the spot instead of praying for RNGod
(ii) raffle will be pure luck.

Will both of these go live at the same time which means that we have to choose?

[senryo]

Update Summary:
28-2-2020
- sticker vs engraving, 50/50; I'm more of a sticker guy because engraving is like either you're all for it or against it, its permanent and it may not appeal to those who opt for clean top view

sales style
- will probably just have a button on the google form since the battle is probably fierce
(which means you'll just have to submit the form without filling any info to fight for the spot)
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20 spots]
(2) trivia quiz, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots]
for (2) to work, I must be sure that there will be enough entries and the battle for the spots is fierce, otherwise it would just be a waste of time and complicate the matter for no good reason; which is why I will be releasing 2nd IC check before the GB starts so I could gather a more accurate sample size on how many interested parties are involved on the plate.
- I will communicate with factory first and see how it goes, if it goes well, then optional case combo + accent; otherwise, set case combo + optional accent bar

edit: for clarification

in regard to the above, I've made some adjustments.

Sales Style
- I am looking at 2 ways -
(1) google form with only one yes & no question for submission [~20-25 spots]
(2) trivia quiz / raffle, for those who do not have internet speed or bot or whatever reason [~10-15 spots] <<< this will be decided in 2nd IC by you all

(i) trivia quiz reading materials will be accessible to all before the quiz starts. The idea is to make you feel you're fighting/earning the spot instead of praying for RNGod
(ii) raffle will be pure luck.

Will both of these go live at the same time which means that we have to choose?

no, not at the same time.
I will also try to block the winners from (1) from winning (2).

[dbeats824]

Maybe do a bigger group buy similar to the Satisfaction 75 but produce the group buy in batches of 40-50 keyboards to make sure the focus on quality stays?

[senryo]

Maybe do a bigger group buy similar to the Satisfaction 75 but produce the group buy in batches of 40-50 keyboards to make sure the focus on quality stays?

The catch of doing a larger group buy is that, not only will I have to be more weary of the board quality, but also that I have to bear more risks as well as deal with more after sales issues. It's uncomfortable enough to make me hesitate.

Besides, taking reference from the interest check form I just released, if I were to say conservatively that there is 20% conversion rate of actual buyer, there will be 100+ entry for this GB already; meaning no matter how many, if I were to, upping the scale of the GB, supply still cannot catch up to the demand. (not to mention I closed the form 2 days after I released it, the number might be bigger)

[Harke]

instead of stickers, why not have the top case laser engraved with an enamel infill?

we'd like to let our customers have an option to choose; by having the top case laser engraved, I fear some, if not a portion of customers would be depressed over an engraving that they find obstructive

we will include this option in the interest check, if majority agrees to include the engrave on the top case instead of a sticker, we would consider making the change.

thank you for your interest and support 

If you are doing a run with such low numbers, there will be much more demand than there is supply, so having 20-25 people who want it with the engraving is pretty much a certainty. In fact, it looks so cool that you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't want a logo. This is further evidenced by the amount of people asking for it to be engraved so its more durable and more premium. I can also imagine a lot of people being really sad that their stickers got scratched when they are transporting their boards. The final decision is up to you as the designer, but I say go premium or go home.

[Reiniidevil]

instead of stickers, why not have the top case laser engraved with an enamel infill?

we'd like to let our customers have an option to choose; by having the top case laser engraved, I fear some, if not a portion of customers would be depressed over an engraving that they find obstructive

we will include this option in the interest check, if majority agrees to include the engrave on the top case instead of a sticker, we would consider making the change.

thank you for your interest and support 

If you are doing a run with such low numbers, there will be much more demand than there is supply, so having 20-25 people who want it with the engraving is pretty much a certainty. In fact, it looks so cool that you would be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't want a logo. This is further evidenced by the amount of people asking for it to be engraved so its more durable and more premium. I can also imagine a lot of people being really sad that their stickers got scratched when they are transporting their boards. The final decision is up to you as the designer, but I say go premium or go home.

I'd love for it to *not* have any kind of engraving, the sticker idea is great because it means I don't have to use it.
You're kinda speaking for everyone on this, but for me the engraving would potentially be a deal breaker. I'm sure there's some others like me, so it's best not to assume so much.

[beekey]

Engraving is a deal breaker for me. Want the clean look without anything. But with such low numbers you will find enough who want it.

[Slayer77]

Engraving is a deal breaker for me. Want the clean look without anything. But with such low numbers you will find enough who want it.

Man why don't people read the interest check. It's a metallic sticker.

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[JSaintS]

Engraving is a deal breaker for me. Want the clean look without anything. But with such low numbers you will find enough who want it.

Man why don't people read the interest check. It's a metallic sticker.

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He was answering Harke, no need to jump at his throat

[Slayer77]

Engraving is a deal breaker for me. Want the clean look without anything. But with such low numbers you will find enough who want it.

Man why don't people read the interest check. It's a metallic sticker.

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He was answering Harke, no need to jump at his throat

He didn't quote anything, so I thought he is just replying to the IC.

I for one would prefer engraving.

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[JSaintS]

I’d prefer the sticker :-)

[Zylkan]

FWIW (coz I'm not even sure I'll be able to join):

Definitely prefer sticker because basically, I would prefer the choice not to put it. And I wouldn't.

Not really happy with the removal of the Silver color as it would be my first choice

[senryo]

Update Summary:
3-3-2020
- considering actively to open an option for buyer to choose engrave or sticker
(this depends on the reply on factory, if the cost is within acceptable and reasonable range, it will be live and probably at cost of freedom on choosing middleweight color)
- I will be ordering prototype within these 2 days, expected to have the prototype done by mid March
- Announcement of FF edition, Panda AKI-S

[sputnikman]

That panda is gorgeous.

Also stay with sticker. I'd prefer choosing the color.

[awstonedp]

How many colors you doing


I need a dark forest green and a brown accent and bottom piece



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[awstonedp]

Too few render photos (especially from the side or the back) and too many unnecessary stuffs (unchecked checkboxes, really?)

Just for you to have something new to whine about.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are 4 new ICs for high-end customs today alone, all fighting for people's interest and money. So yeah, I'd complain when folks try too hard to look cute.

Because of his unchecked check boxes. I can see his plan and vision without evening having to ask him.  Because of his post trying to be “cute” if this goes to group buy I’m definitely in for one.

Great sales pitch OP I throughly enjoyed your post


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[prototype26]

Too few render photos (especially from the side or the back) and too many unnecessary stuffs (unchecked checkboxes, really?)

Just for you to have something new to whine about.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There are 4 new ICs for high-end customs today alone, all fighting for people's interest and money. So yeah, I'd complain when folks try too hard to look cute.

Because of his unchecked check boxes. I can see his plan and vision without evening having to ask him.

Meme material.

[eniigma]

If you're running a friends and family edition, why publicize it if it won't be availible to the public? Unless you're planning on vickrey-ing extras for that or whatever, i dont see any purpose beyond just making the general public jealous

just my 2 cents

[bowen]

Anybody else prefer the sticker design/font from the FF edition?
Also, any idea what shipping will be to the UK?

[badboy731]

If you're running a friends and family edition, why publicize it if it won't be availible to the public? Unless you're planning on vickrey-ing extras for that or whatever, i dont see any purpose beyond just making the general public jealous

just my 2 cents

Came to say this lmao

[senryo]

How many colors you doing


I need a dark forest green and a brown accent and bottom piece



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Sorry sir, we are only doing 2 colors for this run. Ano Black and e-White.

If you're running a friends and family edition, why publicize it if it won't be availible to the public? Unless you're planning on vickrey-ing extras for that or whatever, i dont see any purpose beyond just making the general public jealous

just my 2 cents

If you watch closely, you would see

It is available only to friends & family and ***

It's just something that has yet to be announced yet
I wouldn't tease it for no good reason  )

Anybody else prefer the sticker design/font from the FF edition?
Also, any idea what shipping will be to the UK?

I will have to make the prototype before I could answer this, thanks for the interest!

[awstonedp]

How many colors you doing


I need a dark forest green and a brown accent and bottom piece



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Sorry sir, we are only doing 2 colors for this run. Ano Black and e-White.

If you're running a friends and family edition, why publicize it if it won't be availible to the public? Unless you're planning on vickrey-ing extras for that or whatever, i dont see any purpose beyond just making the general public jealous

just my 2 cents

If you watch closely, you would see

It is available only to friends & family and ***

It's just something that has yet to be announced yet
I wouldn't tease it for no good reason  )

Anybody else prefer the sticker design/font from the FF edition?
Also, any idea what shipping will be to the UK?

I will have to make the prototype before I could answer this, thanks for the interest!

How many colors you doing


I need a dark forest green and a brown accent and bottom piece



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Sorry sir, we are only doing 2 colors for this run. Ano Black and e-White.

Saul good player! I’ll just cerakote  it after I buy it


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[Chozo Ghost]

For SURE going to be looking at this for a potential first custom keeb! It fits just about every need/want I have atm: Hotswap option, RGB lighting, 65% form factor, boom!

I saw one of your replies saying that your Discord was the best place to go for constant updates for this board. Do you have a Discord link that you could provide?

[senryo]

For SURE going to be looking at this for a potential first custom keeb! It fits just about every need/want I have atm: Hotswap option, RGB lighting, 65% form factor, boom!

I saw one of your replies saying that your Discord was the best place to go for constant updates for this board. Do you have a Discord link that you could provide?

Thank you for your interest
it's mentioned under the first picture, I should probably make it more visible  )
here you go! https://discord.gg/5kCVk9q

[senryo]

Update Summary:
20-3-2020

- topped the spots from 40 to 50
- took away hot swap PCB due to technical difficulty
(sorry guys)
- open an option for engrave at cost of liberty of choosing middleweight color
(case combo not set yet, but close to final)
- placed order for prototype
(meanwhile, still amending the blueprint)
- confirmed PCB maker - Xelus
(further details will be announced once all things are settled)
- added Apollo render
- added render courtesy of FaKe_VirTual
- added product page for a concise summary
(this will not be the place for FCFS)

[abellp327]

In for this, love the simplicity Senryo