Edit: ne icon mods availI will look into icon mods + text mods bottom row. Thought about it briefly but will give a serious consideration now.
Damn, ủng hộ all the way;)
Not sure if this was brought up, but it looks strikingly similar to GMK Black Lotus...
+1 fan of darker black and +1 fan for icon mods.I like the less contrasty base colour, it makes the overall look "muted" which I like very much.
Not sure if this was brought up, but it looks strikingly similar to GMK Black Lotus...
Not sure if this was brought up, but it looks strikingly similar to GMK Black Lotus...
It reminds of GMK Black Lotus as well, but I checked both renders, and the purples are different shades. This is more lilac, while lotus is more violet. I think the colorway is different enough
I'm a sucker for purple so count me in!
Some quick suggestions I'd like to make that I hope you can consider!
- Adding a Stepped, 1.75u R3 Control key
- Changing the R2 Backspace legend to the <---- arrow, like on GMK Taro
- Adding 00 1u key for the numpad section for when 0 key is split.
- Consider a uniform F-row color -- purple with lilac legends (see GMK Space Cadet, GMK Taro, GMK Hydro)
- Consider using R5 bottom row for the set, instead of R4. [112345]
- Spacebar kit should have alpha-colored 6u spacebars -- perhaps consider replacing the accent colored ones for these so that the kit isn't too big.
- Consider adding alpha-colored 2x 1.00uC to the spacebar/keys kit.
- Consider taking 1.5u keys off from spacebar/keys kit as it is much less likely to be used.
Some quick suggestions I'd like to make that I hope you can consider!Thanks for the input.
- Adding a Stepped, 1.75u R3 Control key
- Changing the R2 Backspace legend to the <---- arrow, like on GMK Taro
- Adding 00 1u key for the numpad section for when 0 key is split.
- Consider a uniform F-row color -- purple with lilac legends (see GMK Space Cadet, GMK Taro, GMK Hydro)
- Consider using R5 bottom row for the set, instead of R4. [112345]
- Spacebar kit should have alpha-colored 6u spacebars -- perhaps consider replacing the accent colored ones for these so that the kit isn't too big.
- Consider adding alpha-colored 2x 1.00uC to the spacebar/keys kit.
- Consider taking 1.5u keys off from spacebar/keys kit as it is much less likely to be used.
Looks good :), perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.
Looks good :), perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.
Red Samurai black is perfect black to meLooks good :), perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.
Those purples look remarkably similar to GMK Taro.
Those purples look remarkably similar to GMK Taro.
This was my impression as well; this set looks like a mashup of GMK Taro and Q:01. It looks nice don't get me wrong, just my first impression! :)
+1 for R5 bottom row, not R0 though. Also, why use return over enter? There's nothing wrong with it obviously, but it looks funny to me since nearly every other set I've seen has used enter only.
Edit: One easy way to make this stand out from Taro, Q:01, and Eclipse would be to use icon mods, IMO.
Icon mods plz
Good ol icon mods plss :)
Good ol icon mods plss :)
2u Shift is a must for me too, even in a separate kit.
I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.
https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)
It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.
I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.
Hi everyone!
We have successfully secured a spot on TKC for a group buy.
Confirmed kits as of this posting:
Monochrome base
Hiragana alphas
Purple modifiers
Novelties
40% kit
Spacebar
I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.
https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)
It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.
I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.
Seems like Black Lotus is happening now:Hi everyone!
We have successfully secured a spot on TKC for a group buy.
Confirmed kits as of this posting:
Monochrome base
Hiragana alphas
Purple modifiers
Novelties
40% kit
Spacebar
Reading the album, then reading the "inspiration" for the set... Weird lol.
If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.
Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.
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If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.
Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.
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+1, also pretty clearly an alt.
Whatever the inspirations, in my opinion this set and black lotus are distinct. In different shades of purple, different base (this is purple on black/black gray while BL is wob), and different theme.
If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.
Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.
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Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.
Quote from: otanishock link=topic=100436.msg2756081#msg2756081
Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.
Please considet icon mods please. Icon mods just look so modern... I need this set!!
Quote from: otanishock link=topic=100436.msg2756081#msg2756081
Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.
Please considet icon mods please. Icon mods just look so modern... I need this set!!
Maybe start a poll for icon mods ?! :) Icon mods + text bottom row at the very least please!
Also, for those still uneasy about the new account, poof I've been having password problems. https://imgur.com/a/sHZvGhr . I get wanting to know where info is, I'm not intentionally hiding anything. Just riding a strugglebus rn. Apologies to the mod for sharing pms, p sure this one is harmless though. If not ill remove it.
Looks good :), perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.
I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.(Attachment Link)
https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)
It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.
I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.
edit: I've had some people trying to hunt me down, this isnt meant to be an alt, I just got locked out of my account due to password issues. I'm gasp
I think this is a valid concern to have and one probably more than just 'help' is having (I personally wouldn't mind an actual answer either), they even went as far as compiling an album of sources... responding to it with a meme is at the very least disrespectful.
I think this is a valid concern to have and one probably more than just 'help' is having (I personally wouldn't mind an actual answer either), they even went as far as compiling an album of sources... responding to it with a meme is at the very least disrespectful.
Because I simply don't need to answer you or him about that question. That's all. I don't have to answer you this, but I'll be a nice guy and type it out so we can just end the discussion right here without going off-topic. I got hooked iton Black Lotus because purple has a personal meaning to me. Fyi, nobody is entitled to any colorway. Even patents have an expiration date. Just because there was a purple set from three years ago does not mean a purple/black theme is reserved forever. Also in case you haven't noticed, I and my friends work on this set from start to finish. Credits have already been given to those who participated in this project. I don't understand why do you feel the need to raise that issue when its not even your set? Show me some respect on my thread, and I'll show you mine. Thanks.
Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? :pI'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
...Nope.Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail?I'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
I must say I prefer icon mods just for consistency - I'm not a huge fan of mixing text mods with text + icon mods, just looks weird to me, I'd prefer all-icons or all-text - but whatever otanishock decides to do is fine by me :DMan I want to. Supporting a layout is easy, but finding the other 99 people to make the kit hits MOQ is .... :'(
(Colemak compat plzzzz?)
Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? :pI'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
Yeah high MOQs for GMK child kits are a killer. One can dream though!I'll try to make a poll later and see if I can gather enough interest for all those niche layouts (40s/ortho/dc/colevrak/etc.) As a responsible designer I can't just offer kits and put the burden on vendors to buy out to hit MOQs. I will try my best to make it happen but I can't promise anything. I hope you understand.
Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? :pI'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? :pI'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? :pI'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...
They're not completely icon mods tho, bottom row remains text. And that looks a bit weird tbqh. Have you considered going full icon mods, even for Ctrl/Alt/...?
long live gmk goth gfyes
really unfortunate to see the original mods go any way to get those back in a separate kit?
really unfortunate to see the original mods go any way to get those back in a separate kit?That was definitely the hardest decision I had to make. At the end of the day, I think icon mods just go nicer with the icon novelties while not making anything to look out of place. I'm trying to keep the kit sizing as small as possible, so I'm afraid there will be no separate mod kits. My apologies. I know this will be the toughest decision I had to make at that moment when I decided to pull it off. I wish there was something else I could've done to please everyone, but I've looked at all the possibility and couldn't think of any that would help me to keep the sizing of the set (and eventually cost) down while still pleasing everyone. I personally think all the changes I've made will benefit the majority of the people who were interested in the set given the circumstance, and I take full responsibility for it. Really sorry man. I really am.
really unfortunate to see the original mods go any way to get those back in a separate kit?That was definitely the hardest decision I had to make. At the end of the day, I think icon mods just go nicer with the icon novelties while not making anything to look out of place. I'm trying to keep the kit sizing as small as possible, so I'm afraid there will be no separate mod kits. My apologies. I know this will be the toughest decision I had to make at that moment when I decided to pull it off. I wish there was something else I could've done to please everyone, but I've looked at all the possibility and couldn't think of any that would help me to keep the sizing of the set (and eventually cost) down while still pleasing everyone. I personally think all the changes I've made will benefit the majority of the people who were interested in the set given the circumstance, and I take full responsibility for it. Really sorry man. I really am.
Icon mods!!! Def in for a base + novelties now :)Awesome! Thanks for the support. As this set is a remembrance of a good memory of mine, I plan to not release any second run of the set. Will only drop once and for good this September, so I'm glad you are in for something special :)
ne colemak avail ;_;Really sorry, but I'm afraid not. I think the size of the drop is just too small to offer support to all layouts. That was a hard decision too, but as a responsible designer I just don't want to force my vendors to buyout all the extra kits to meet MOQ that would probably still not going to move post groupbuy. I did put your concern into consideration, and I really hope you
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I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.
Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.
What a disappointment. I am happy for the people who are getting what they want but I am no longer interested.
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I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.
Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.
What happened to this? What happened to the classic vibe and the point about contrast (both completely true).
What a disappointment. I am happy for the people who are getting what they want but I am no longer interested.
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I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.
Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.
What happened to this? What happened to the classic vibe and the point about contrast (both completely true).
What a disappointment. I am happy for the people who are getting what they want but I am no longer interested.
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I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.
Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.
What happened to this? What happened to the classic vibe and the point about contrast (both completely true).
What a disappointment. I am happy for the people who are getting what they want but I am no longer interested.
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I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.
Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.
What happened to this? What happened to the classic vibe and the point about contrast (both completely true).
Yeah I mean there is clear demand for the origin style. So I really don't understand not even trying to offer a separate kit. But again I'm not the designer but I can vote with my wallet so I'll save some money in this situation.
Would it be possible to add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn? They're used in some 65% layouts (Massdrop Alt, Tada68, Whitefox, Uniqey C70).
Sorry might have missed your request earlier. I think the kit is locked as of right now. Can you do R2 Pg Up, R3 Pg Dn and R4 Fn instead? That's more in line with the standard 65% layout.Would it be possible to add R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn? They're used in some 65% layouts (Massdrop Alt, Tada68, Whitefox, Uniqey C70).
Otanishock,
Asking again since I saw replies to other questions, just in case this request was overlooked. Would it be possible to add an R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn?
Icon mod <3
Icon mod <3You <3
It looks good. But I want Lilac legend on white base alphas (or dark purple on white). Can you do it for me?
I'd like to chime in to point out a minor problem in the base kit regarding ISO support (which, some may be surprised by this, was NOT my first love).
As the kit stands now, you've got neither full UK ISO support nor full US ISO support, but are instead falling "in the middle of the pond", producing something called "Atlantis ISO". To fix this in the base kit, you have two (ok, three) options:
1) Complete the US ISO support. To do this, replace the R3 #~ key with an R3 \| key instead. The R4 \| key has to remain.
2) Complete the UK ISO support. To do this, do not remove anything, add the three missing keys in R1: `¬, 2" and 3£, and add the missing key in R3: '@.
3) Offer full UK+US ISO support. To do this, do not remove anything, add the three missing keys in R1: `¬, 2" and 3£, and add the two missing keys in R3: '@ and \|.
Hope this helps!
I'd like to chime in to point out a minor problem in the base kit regarding ISO support (which, some may be surprised by this, was NOT my first love).
As the kit stands now, you've got neither full UK ISO support nor full US ISO support, but are instead falling "in the middle of the pond", producing something called "Atlantis ISO". To fix this in the base kit, you have two (ok, three) options:
1) Complete the US ISO support. To do this, replace the R3 #~ key with an R3 \| key instead. The R4 \| key has to remain.
2) Complete the UK ISO support. To do this, do not remove anything, add the three missing keys in R1: `¬, 2" and 3£, and add the missing key in R3: '@.
3) Offer full UK+US ISO support. To do this, do not remove anything, add the three missing keys in R1: `¬, 2" and 3£, and add the two missing keys in R3: '@ and \|.
Hope this helps!
i offer a rebuttal
just cut the ISO entirely
a good number of users.
a good number of users.
5% of GB entrants tops
although data suggests less
i offer a rebuttal
just cut the ISO entirely
I bet they use ANSI in Atlantis though ;)
I too like to base my estimate of users of iso by calculating percentage of people who buy expensive language kit. Bloody brilliant logic there.
a good number of users.
5% of GB entrants tops
although data suggests less
I too like to base my estimate of users of iso by calculating percentage of people who buy expensive language kit. Bloody brilliant logic there.
Will this bring back my exMaybe a booty call :cool: :))
Something that cannot be atained easily: decent compatability without killing the wallet.a good number of users.
5% of GB entrants tops
although data suggests less
I too like to base my estimate of users of iso by calculating percentage of people who buy expensive language kit. Bloody brilliant logic there.
Jamon has kit with barebones ISO support: "it doesn't have enough keys"
Serika has kit with full international support: it has too many keys"
What do you ISO people want
the renders are quite different, which one is more closed to reality? I want a real dark purple and dark grey one like the new render shows.
the renders are quite different, which one is more closed to reality? I want a real dark purple and dark grey one like the new render shows.Pretty much what Upas said. I will post some pics of the actual color code soon. Probably some minor tweaks to the RAL code to fit into what I think is best for the set. Sorry I have a lot of research deadlines and proposals lining up at work that I haven't been able to keep up to date with responses. Will try to do so this weekend before my flight. We've ordered color samples from GMK, although I would imagine it is going to take a few tries until I'm satisfied (especially with the blue purple mods). Stuffs are still being worked on behind the scene. Will post final render of First Love Keypora soon. It looks lovely!
Final draft of KeyporaShow Image(https://i.imgur.com/vjcDDKe.jpg)
Alsooooooooooo <3 <3 <3
F*Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/MDucyE4.png)
Not sure whether this is the best place to ask, but the renders for First Live on the Chimera match Chimeras accent pretty well, but it seems more on the pale side when compared to the other first love renders. Would you say that render is more or less accurate than the others? And if UPA's sees this, any thoughts on whether the lilac Chimera will be closer to the Chimera render or the other first love renders? Trying to figure out how well they will match essentially.Upas' a bit to pale. The dark gray I have in mind is a little bit lighter. Hopefully I'll get to see the actual color sample from GMK next week. Will report back what I think.
Yes. Ill have the form up pretty soon. Time will be extended a bit past 24 hours - approximately perhaps a little less than a day from now.
PSA:I will forward this directly towards MoesToaster. I've already recorded all the entries for US + Asia. China and EU will be extended for another 24 hours due to delay.
The group-buy page is still missing on CandyKeys, but after some clicking and scrolling around, I've found that the sets are up:
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-base-kit
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-space-kit
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-novelty-kit
I couldn't find the RAMA cap anywhere.Yes. Ill have the form up pretty soon. Time will be extended a bit past 24 hours - approximately perhaps a little less than a day from now.
That would be great. EU customer still don't have any easy way to find the sets.
PSA:
The group-buy page is still missing on CandyKeys, but after some clicking and scrolling around, I've found that the sets are up:
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-base-kit
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-space-kit
https://candykeys.com/product/gmk-first-love-novelty-kit
I couldn't find the RAMA cap anywhere.Yes. Ill have the form up pretty soon. Time will be extended a bit past 24 hours - approximately perhaps a little less than a day from now.
That would be great. EU customer still don't have any easy way to find the sets.
Hey!
RAMA is going up in 20 minutes from this post. The page needs a final touch, the system is having a melt down due to the milkshake page. It is a bit haywire on this dual launch! Will make sure all First Love products are up and the page will be fresh before tomorrow as long as the server lets us.