[IC] GMK First Love - Final Updates (8/23/19)

[Acereconkeys]

Some quick suggestions I'd like to make that I hope you can consider!

- Adding a Stepped, 1.75u R3 Control key
- Changing the R2 Backspace legend to the <---- arrow, like on GMK Taro
- Adding 00 1u key for the numpad section for when 0 key is split.
- Consider a uniform F-row color -- purple with lilac legends (see GMK Space Cadet, GMK Taro, GMK Hydro)
- Consider using R5 bottom row for the set, instead of R4. [112345]

- Spacebar kit should have alpha-colored 6u spacebars -- perhaps consider replacing the accent colored ones for these so that the kit isn't too big.
- Consider adding alpha-colored 2x 1.00uC to the spacebar/keys kit.
- Consider taking 1.5u keys off from spacebar/keys kit as it is much less likely to be used.

I agree with everything here.

I'd especially love it if this set did R5 that'd cool.

[leexy]

purple eclipse

[otanishock]

Some quick suggestions I'd like to make that I hope you can consider!

- Adding a Stepped, 1.75u R3 Control key
- Changing the R2 Backspace legend to the <---- arrow, like on GMK Taro
- Adding 00 1u key for the numpad section for when 0 key is split.
- Consider a uniform F-row color -- purple with lilac legends (see GMK Space Cadet, GMK Taro, GMK Hydro)
- Consider using R5 bottom row for the set, instead of R4. [112345]

- Spacebar kit should have alpha-colored 6u spacebars -- perhaps consider replacing the accent colored ones for these so that the kit isn't too big.
- Consider adding alpha-colored 2x 1.00uC to the spacebar/keys kit.
- Consider taking 1.5u keys off from spacebar/keys kit as it is much less likely to be used.

Thanks for the input.

1) Will consider.
2) I might keep it the way it looks for now. I am not thoroughly a big fan of the R2 backspace key from Taro.
3) I don't think 00 is much needed.
4) Will consider.
5) Will consider. R0/5 might be too niche for a non-massdrop set. We'll see.
6) Will consider.
7) Probably won't happen.
8 ) Agree. Will take those off.


The vote seems to be pretty even between stock CR black and custom black alphas, with a slight edger over to custom black alphas. Please let me know your input guys, as this is probably the most important turning point of the set. Kit tweaking/coverage issue is minor compared to this.

[Aphidsc]

Looks good , perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.

[bobdenard]

R0/R5 would be great, or at least R5

[otanishock]

Looks good , perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.

I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.

[LordDaFuq]

I wish it had 1U and 2U shifts included in the base kit. Or at least included in a separate mod kit.

Would most likely buy it. It's so nice!!

[dk4one]

This keycap set is so sad. It's really one of those set that brings out the emotion in you. Like I can actually feel that heartbroken feeling from OP's with his first love. So sad....

[mrpetrov]

Looks good , perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.

I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.

I think that will be fabulous. Slightly crazy thought too, but that would allow people to mix and match from Red Sam mods and this - and the gold-ish legends on the Red Sam mods might work wonderfully well with the purple legends here. Mmmm.

[Jaxxstatic]

Looks good , perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.

I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.

Red Samurai black is perfect black to me

[InvidiousIgnoramus]

Those purples look remarkably similar to GMK Taro.

[dallman5]

Those purples look remarkably similar to GMK Taro.

This was my impression as well; this set looks like a mashup of GMK Taro and Q:01. It looks nice don't get me wrong, just my first impression!

+1 for R5 bottom row, not R0 though.  Also, why use return over enter? There's nothing wrong with it obviously, but it looks funny to me since nearly every other set I've seen has used enter only. 

Edit: One easy way to make this stand out from Taro, Q:01, and Eclipse would be to use icon mods, IMO.

[Vadurr]

Good ol icon mods plss

[dk4one]

Icon mods plz

[otanishock]

Those purples look remarkably similar to GMK Taro.

This was my impression as well; this set looks like a mashup of GMK Taro and Q:01. It looks nice don't get me wrong, just my first impression!

+1 for R5 bottom row, not R0 though.  Also, why use return over enter? There's nothing wrong with it obviously, but it looks funny to me since nearly every other set I've seen has used enter only. 

Edit: One easy way to make this stand out from Taro, Q:01, and Eclipse would be to use icon mods, IMO.

Icon mods plz

Good ol icon mods plss

I don't feel the vibe of icon mods on this set to be honest. This set supposed to have a classic vibe, so I think icon+text mods would be best.

Edit: I also would like to point out that the rule of thumb for icon mods is that they only work well against highly contrast alphas/mods set (like beige/carbon gray on Bone, sky blue/dark navy on Mizu, etc.). Dark purple and black does not have that strong of a contrast to throw in icon mods, if that makes sense.

[nu_types]

I like it, instantly thought of a GMK Eclipse, but purple. Which isn't a bad thing imo.

[bobdenard]

2u Shift is a must for me too, even in a separate kit.

[megaforce]

hiragana alphas options pls

[Telstar]

I wanna!

Voted for grey, didn't see iso enter already in base set so i asked that.
I would like symbols only for mods such as enter, backspace, tab etc.

[Telstar]

Good ol icon mods plss

this

[LordDaFuq]

2u Shift is a must for me too, even in a separate kit.

For me too. And also need a 1U shift key.

[help]

I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.

https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)

It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.

I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.


edit: I've had some people trying to hunt me down, this isnt meant to be an alt, I just got locked out of my account due to password issues. I'm gasp

[xondat]

I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.

https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)

It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.

I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.

Seems like Black Lotus is happening now:

Hi everyone!

We have successfully secured a spot on TKC for a group buy.


Confirmed kits as of this posting:
Monochrome base
Hiragana alphas
Purple modifiers
Novelties
40% kit
Spacebar

Reading the album, then reading the "inspiration" for the set... Weird lol.

[help]

I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.

https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)

It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.

I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.

Seems like Black Lotus is happening now:

Hi everyone!

We have successfully secured a spot on TKC for a group buy.


Confirmed kits as of this posting:
Monochrome base
Hiragana alphas
Purple modifiers
Novelties
40% kit
Spacebar

Reading the album, then reading the "inspiration" for the set... Weird lol.

yeah, in the album it shows someone linking him to that to show him it was happening. He clearly knew about it. I don't like it.

[Capsy]

If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.

Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.

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[otanishock]

Edited.

[Acereconkeys]

If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.

Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.

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+1, also pretty clearly an alt.

Whatever the inspirations, in my opinion this set and black lotus are distinct. In different shades of purple, different base (this is purple on black/black gray while BL is wob), and different theme.

[otanishock]

♥

If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.

Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.

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♥

+1, also pretty clearly an alt.

Whatever the inspirations, in my opinion this set and black lotus are distinct. In different shades of purple, different base (this is purple on black/black gray while BL is wob), and different theme.

Update: Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.

[help]

If you had bothered to read through the black lotus thread, you'd figure out that otani was going to pick it up as that IC was dead for a long time. The runner is now running it again so in all probability, him and otani have spoken.

Anyways, let the designer speak if he has a problem with the set instead of babyraging for two paragraphs and then putting in a disclaimer at the end about disregarding the post. Get your facts straight and then point fingers to a regular old timer of this community like otani.

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If you had read through the album you'd see i included stuff from there (the black lotus thread) as well. I also tried to include where he said he attempted to contact him about doing so. I wanted to make sure as much context was there as possible. Furthermore, I put the disclaimer at the beginning. Its really my only issue/ the only thing that makes me a little uneasy, is him having not contacted the og gb runner. And I even said idk if hes even doing anything wrong, very much just looking for reassurance or clarification. Which I'm not really getting here.

Also, for those still uneasy about the new account, poof I've been having password problems. https://imgur.com/a/sHZvGhr . I get wanting to know where info is, I'm not intentionally hiding anything. Just riding a strugglebus rn. Apologies to the mod for sharing pms, p sure this one is harmless though. If not ill remove it.

[dk4one]

Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.

Please considet icon mods please. Icon mods just look so modern... I need this set!!

[Vadurr]

Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.

Please considet icon mods please. Icon mods just look so modern... I need this set!!

Maybe start a poll for icon mods ?! Icon mods + text bottom row at the very least please!

[Acereconkeys]

Note aside, most likely we will be moving forward with a custom black alphas, as I believe that would give the best contrast to the set while still retaining the muted character. I do prefer text mods a bit over icon mods + text mod bottom row, but I will look into this. Will include an extra "B" and an extra R1 key for TGR-Alice and TGR-Jane V2 CE. I'm still deciding whether or not I should include four 1.5U R5 for those who want R5 mods.

Please considet icon mods please. Icon mods just look so modern... I need this set!!

Maybe start a poll for icon mods ?! Icon mods + text bottom row at the very least please!

Typical icon mod user not even reading the OP and realizing that poll already exists!  /s

[Photoelectric]

Also, for those still uneasy about the new account, poof I've been having password problems. https://imgur.com/a/sHZvGhr . I get wanting to know where info is, I'm not intentionally hiding anything. Just riding a strugglebus rn. Apologies to the mod for sharing pms, p sure this one is harmless though. If not ill remove it.

help has now been helped!  Access to the original account has been restored.

[tomu]

That gray looks noice 

[OracleKev]

Looks good , perfect set for my partner. Hard to decide between the black and dark gray.

I think I will go with the custom black. Stock CR is too much in your face. I think I should have worded it differently to make people less confusing. Its not dark gray like Oblivion. Its a custom black same as the black from Red Samurai.

Good call

[PotatoTM]

I thought this set looked like black lotus and taro had a baby. At least I wasn't completely off.

https://imgur.com/a/TzJiMvv (album)

It seems at the very least extraordinarily rude to do this, assuming you still haven't talked to the original gb runner. I myself am not sure if its truly wrong to take someones idea and tweak it, but it seems at least rude considering it was going to gb after all, and you clearly knew this. In my mind, it is one thing to have slightly similar colors but a different thing to base your set on someone else's, esp on that is currently in the works.

I honestly haven't been around in this community to really know what is considered right and wrong here, but this rubs me the wrong way. If you did talk to the Black Lotus GB runner and he gave you his blessing, please disregard everything. And again, I'm not sure how I feel entirely, or how much it matters, but the fact that I'm at all unsure I figured meant I should share and ask for clarification or answers.


edit: I've had some people trying to hunt me down, this isnt meant to be an alt, I just got locked out of my account due to password issues. I'm gasp

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I think this is a valid concern to have and one probably more than just 'help' is having (I personally wouldn't mind an actual answer either), they even went as far as compiling an album of sources... responding to it with a meme is at the very least disrespectful.

[otanishock]

I think this is a valid concern to have and one probably more than just 'help' is having (I personally wouldn't mind an actual answer either), they even went as far as compiling an album of sources... responding to it with a meme is at the very least disrespectful.

Because that is not a question I would like to answer, that's all. I don't have to answer you this, but I'll type it out so we can just end the discussion right here without going off-topic. I got hooked iton Black Lotus because purple has a personal meaning to me. Fyi, nobody is entitled to any colorway. Even patents have an expiration date. Just because there was a purple set from three years ago does not mean a purple/black theme is reserved forever. Also I and my friends, we worked on this set from start to finish. Credits have already been given to those who participated in this project. Please help me not going off-topic and keep everything related to the set please. I would really appreciate that.

[OtherAndrew]

long live gmk goth gf

[OracleKev]

Let this run.  IMO it's distinct enough from Black Lotus.  I'd probably get both. 

[Puddsy]

I think this is a valid concern to have and one probably more than just 'help' is having (I personally wouldn't mind an actual answer either), they even went as far as compiling an album of sources... responding to it with a meme is at the very least disrespectful.

Because I simply don't need to answer you or him about that question. That's all. I don't have to answer you this, but I'll be a nice guy and type it out so we can just end the discussion right here without going off-topic. I got hooked iton Black Lotus because purple has a personal meaning to me. Fyi, nobody is entitled to any colorway. Even patents have an expiration date. Just because there was a purple set from three years ago does not mean a purple/black theme is reserved forever. Also in case you haven't noticed, I and my friends work on this set from start to finish. Credits have already been given to those who participated in this project. I don't understand why do you feel the need to raise that issue when its not even your set? Show me some respect on my thread, and I'll show you mine. Thanks.

this is some spicy pasta

[dk4one]

Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? 

[otanishock]

Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? 

I'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...

[fireworm]

Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? 

I'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...

...Nope.

[potatobot]

Hey everyone,

I think i was being summoned to comment here as my post has been quoted by several people.

Here are my thoughts:

As per the final renders, this came out very different from gmk black lotus.

The purple is much more on the blue side compared to the purple used on black lotus thats leaning towards red.


Anyways, I do not own a colorway or color combination so there is no foul play here. I do appreciate that someone has been inspired with my original design to make a version that would better suit their taste.

I am still a fan of this set, though i do not see any deep connection with the theme towards the colorway. Regardless i would try to get my hands on the base kit coz im a purple weeb.

Hope both keysets would be successful and that would only be possible with the support of this community.



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[sevenseacat]

I must say I prefer icon mods just for consistency - I'm not a huge fan of mixing text mods with text + icon mods, just looks weird to me, I'd prefer all-icons or all-text - but whatever otanishock decides to do is fine by me

(Colemak compat plzzzz?)

[otanishock]

I must say I prefer icon mods just for consistency - I'm not a huge fan of mixing text mods with text + icon mods, just looks weird to me, I'd prefer all-icons or all-text - but whatever otanishock decides to do is fine by me

(Colemak compat plzzzz?)

Man I want to. Supporting a layout is easy, but finding the other 99 people to make the kit hits MOQ is .... 

[Vadurr]

Soo... umm...the real question is... NE Icon mods avail? 

I'll try to see if I can get a render with icon mods. Aren't you guys getting sick of it enough thou? With Wavez, Mizu and 8008 all having icon mods back to back...

I wish for all my sets to be this way 

[click clack jack]

Coming in to drop support, LOVE the theme, lvoe the colors and totally digging the novelties man!

[sevenseacat]

Yeah high MOQs for GMK child kits are a killer. One can dream though!

[otanishock]

Yeah high MOQs for GMK child kits are a killer. One can dream though!

I'll try to make a poll later and see if I can gather enough interest for all those niche layouts (40s/ortho/dc/colevrak/etc.) As a responsible designer I can't just offer kits and put the burden on vendors to buy out to hit MOQs. I will try my best to make it happen but I can't promise anything. I hope you understand.