Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 01:06:52
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Southpaw Extended 65%. Fully programmable Alps and MX compatible 65% with a numberpad on the right. Supports ISO enter, split backspace, split left shift, left arrow cluster, 4x5 macropad, and 6u spacebar. Presoldered PCB running on a kimera core, programmable with TMK. Aluminum Case supports a 4 degree riser, 9 degree riser, and cone feet.
Reddit Link - https://redd.it/75djfk
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Southpaw 65+
- 65% with a number pad on the left.
- Left or right dedicated arrow cluster
- Full Alps support.
- CNC Aluminum Case with interchangeable risers at 4 and 9 degrees.
- PCB is being designed by the Xiudi, you probably know him for the XD60 and XD84. This means it’ll share flexible layouts and programmability with their other boards.
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- 12 to 18 weeks from opening to completing shipping
- Case options include CNC aluminum, bent plate, and integrated steel case.
- Separate plates for Alps and MX
- $100-200 for kits. depending on case (based on estimate from vendor)
- MOQ of 100 total orders
- Bent plate, integrated plate and aluminum plates have an MOQ of 30 for each variant, MX and Alps.
- Each anodization color has an MOQ of 8 units.
- Each kit will contain a PCB, Plate and Case as well as hardware needed to complete the board.
Timeline - These dates have a pretty significant buffer. Production, sorting and shipping might be faster than this if nothing runs amiss.
- GB opens sometime between 21st and 28th of October
- GB Closes December 1st
- 8 to 16 weeks for production, sorting, and shipping. This takes into account holidays and such.
- Boards will be sent out at the earliest, late January and latest late February.
June Update:
- Things are taking a little longer than expected. I've revised the aluminum case and have just sent it to the factory for prototyping.
- 1st iteration of the PCB is being made at the factory right now. I'll have it on hand after I get back from vacation mid july... Or maybe I'll have it shipped to my hotel.
- Aluminum case is on CNC risers that will be at 4 and 9 degrees. It will also support the CNC cone feet that are available everywhere.
- I will run another IC when I have the samples on hand so I can determine which colors to run for the case. There will be a 5 unit MOQ for each color.
July Update
- We now have a PCB sample and the layout looks to be everything that was expected. the ALPS and MX switch holes are really close together for some switch so I will be really looking at that closely when prototypes arrive in my hands.
- There will most likely be four kits. CNC aluminum with alps, CNC aluminum MX, Bent ALPS plate, and an Bent MX plate. Prices at the moment are still the same.
August Update
- My contact in China just received the first case sample and design-wise, it looks alright. I might change the 9 degree riser a little and slim it down to match the overall look of the board.
- After looking it over, he wasn't quite satisfied with the quality of the case and might go to a different factory for this. Prototypes are around a week or two to make so I'm thinking that we maybe try out one or two more and take the best out of those.
- The PCB is being revised to take the SP ALPS ISO enter thats oriented the same way as the other switches. As for the bottom arrow cluster area, the pcb will only take two sizes. i.e. 1u/1.25u/1.5u. Looking at it, I am inclined towards 1u and 1.5u compatability since those will be used in a lot of the common layouts. See the discussion towards the end of page 3 for this.
- Once the PCB is finalized, the steel bent plate as well as the normal plate need to be cut and the samples will be sent over then for me to look over a final time. I'll then most likely do another IC for a quantity estimate which should give me pretty rough prices.
- Production time will be the normal 30-40 days with 7 days of transit between china and here. Depending on what will be offered. Sorting and shipping everything will take around a month or so since I'm back at school now.
- The 9 degree riser seems to fit fine. Just need to test the other 6 degree one now.
Imgur Link for layouts and basic case+plate renders - http://imgur.com/a/urzpe
Keyboard Layout Editor Link - http://www.keyboard-layout-editor.com/#/gists/0229aa11114e8886c646df177ad5e4f2
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NEW INTEREST CHECK FORM- https://goo.gl/forms/n8f4pTOmRB61RoS72
Post by: neralo on Mon, 17 April 2017, 01:14:06
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 01:27:08
definitely interested, especially if we can get a high profile alu case. Any chance for alps support?
There's chance for alps support since this PCB is being custom built. I'll definetly talk to design about it. The high profile case will be the one that's crudely rendered at the top. I designed it with 5 degree rise if that matters much. The IC form shows a fair ammount of interest for the alu case so if it doesn't reach 50, I might look into buying the rest.
Post by: neralo on Mon, 17 April 2017, 01:37:45
definitely interested, especially if we can get a high profile alu case. Any chance for alps support?
There's chance for alps support since this PCB is being custom built. I'll definetly talk to design about it. The high profile case will be the one that's crudely rendered at the top. I designed it with 5 degree rise if that matters much. The IC form shows a fair ammount of interest for the alu case so if it doesn't reach 50, I might look into buying the rest.
Hope alps support works out. I've always wanted a monarch, and with this maybe a faux-narch isn't impossible.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 13:13:47
definitely interested, especially if we can get a high profile alu case. Any chance for alps support?
There's chance for alps support since this PCB is being custom built. I'll definetly talk to design about it. The high profile case will be the one that's crudely rendered at the top. I designed it with 5 degree rise if that matters much. The IC form shows a fair ammount of interest for the alu case so if it doesn't reach 50, I might look into buying the rest.
Hope alps support works out. I've always wanted a monarch, and with this maybe a faux-narch isn't impossible.
Alright, shot an email to the vendor and it looks like there could possibly be alps support. Might take a little more time and require a few more funds, but it should be viable if I reach the 50 unit MOQ in the IC form.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 17 April 2017, 13:34:36
will consider getting one for the right price
$100-200 is definitely in the range i'd like to see
Post by: romevi on Mon, 17 April 2017, 13:35:51
Post by: Sent on Mon, 17 April 2017, 17:46:29
Post by: Harms on Mon, 17 April 2017, 19:22:33
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 19:23:12
****in weird
will consider getting one for the right price
$100-200 is definitely in the range i'd like to see
Did some calculations and was able to get the price down a little. Price range starts at $80 for the bent plate and goes all the way to $180 for the CNC alu case.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 19:26:38
Interested in High profile Case or CNC like the RS68.
If you can, fill out an interest check form. Helps me keep track of what you guys want. The rendered case+plate is what the high profile case will come to look like. 5 degree rise on it. The Case will have edges that come all the way to the bottom of the keycaps like a tada68 or a va68m
Post by: Harms on Mon, 17 April 2017, 19:34:23
Interested in High profile Case or CNC like the RS68.
If you can, fill out an interest check form. Helps me keep track of what you guys want. The rendered case+plate is what the high profile case will come to look like. 5 degree rise on it. The Case will have edges that come all the way to the bottom of the keycaps like a tada68 or a va68m
Yeah cool thank you :).
Post by: neralo on Mon, 17 April 2017, 21:48:05
definitely interested, especially if we can get a high profile alu case. Any chance for alps support?
There's chance for alps support since this PCB is being custom built. I'll definetly talk to design about it. The high profile case will be the one that's crudely rendered at the top. I designed it with 5 degree rise if that matters much. The IC form shows a fair ammount of interest for the alu case so if it doesn't reach 50, I might look into buying the rest.
Hope alps support works out. I've always wanted a monarch, and with this maybe a faux-narch isn't impossible.
Alright, shot an email to the vendor and it looks like there could possibly be alps support. Might take a little more time and require a few more funds, but it should be viable if I reach the 50 unit MOQ in the IC form.
edited my submission to show my support for ALPS compatibility. I assume the PCB can be mx/alps compatible, just that you need to get the numbers for people interested in an alps compatible plate?
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 17 April 2017, 21:50:06
definitely interested, especially if we can get a high profile alu case. Any chance for alps support?
There's chance for alps support since this PCB is being custom built. I'll definetly talk to design about it. The high profile case will be the one that's crudely rendered at the top. I designed it with 5 degree rise if that matters much. The IC form shows a fair ammount of interest for the alu case so if it doesn't reach 50, I might look into buying the rest.
Hope alps support works out. I've always wanted a monarch, and with this maybe a faux-narch isn't impossible.
Alright, shot an email to the vendor and it looks like there could possibly be alps support. Might take a little more time and require a few more funds, but it should be viable if I reach the 50 unit MOQ in the IC form.
Should I refill out the IC form to show my support for an ALPS version? I assume the PCB can be mx/alps compatible, just that you need to get the numbers for people interested in an alps compatible plate?
Ok, just added it as an option at the very end of the form. You should be able to edit your form for it. Just tack it on at the end.
Post by: reggalicious on Wed, 19 April 2017, 10:42:30
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 19 April 2017, 18:04:34
Any possibility of splitting the 2u keys on the keypad into all 1u? It'd be pretty cool to have a 65% board with a 5x4 "macro pad" connected on the left.
Yeah, will most likely get that too since there shouldn't be anything keeping us from doing that.
Also, alps support is confirmed on the PCB. Just need to figure out what to do with the plate now. Anyone have any experience with alps switches on universal plates? They don't seem to have any support on any sides on universal plates so they seem to just be resting on the solder joints. Not sure how good that would be for the solder joints themselves.
Post by: neralo on Thu, 20 April 2017, 01:12:54
Any possibility of splitting the 2u keys on the keypad into all 1u? It'd be pretty cool to have a 65% board with a 5x4 "macro pad" connected on the left.
Also, alps support is confirmed on the PCB.
You beautiful human being! Time to start looking for an applicable alps set, 80% chance I'm in for it with alps. Hope you can find someone to help with the plate.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 20 April 2017, 01:31:31
Any possibility of splitting the 2u keys on the keypad into all 1u? It'd be pretty cool to have a 65% board with a 5x4 "macro pad" connected on the left.
Also, alps support is confirmed on the PCB.
You beautiful human being! Time to start looking for an applicable alps set, 80% chance I'm in for it with alps. Hope you can find someone to help with the plate.
You seem a little more knowledgeable with alps than I am and I was wondering if there's a way to mount alps switches directly to the PCB since I can't seem to find any alps that are PCB mount specific. The thing is that the alps plate should be completely fine everywhere save for the portions of the plates that are completely open horizontally like at the right arrow cluster and where the 2u "+", "enter" and "0" on the numberpad would mount. At those points, the plate would not provide any support at all for alps since the cherry/alps cutouts are cut so that they brace cherry switches top and bottom while the alps switches are braced left and right.
Post by: rozakiin on Thu, 20 April 2017, 05:33:10
You seem a little more knowledgeable with alps than I am and I was wondering if there's a way to mount alps switches directly to the PCB since I can't seem to find any alps that are PCB mount specific. The thing is that the alps plate should be completely fine everywhere save for the portions of the plates that are completely open horizontally like at the right arrow cluster and where the 2u "+", "enter" and "0" on the numberpad would mount. At those points, the plate would not provide any support at all for alps since the cherry/alps cutouts are cut so that they brace cherry switches top and bottom while the alps switches are braced left and right.
I ran into the same issue with the UK78, the best solution is to have a separate Alps plate as Alps don't have any pcb support like Cherry switches.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 20 April 2017, 20:30:04
You seem a little more knowledgeable with alps than I am and I was wondering if there's a way to mount alps switches directly to the PCB since I can't seem to find any alps that are PCB mount specific. The thing is that the alps plate should be completely fine everywhere save for the portions of the plates that are completely open horizontally like at the right arrow cluster and where the 2u "+", "enter" and "0" on the numberpad would mount. At those points, the plate would not provide any support at all for alps since the cherry/alps cutouts are cut so that they brace cherry switches top and bottom while the alps switches are braced left and right.
I ran into the same issue with the UK78, the best solution is to have a separate Alps plate as Alps don't have any pcb support like Cherry switches.
Don't you run into the issue of being stuck with a single layout if you opt for support on the alps swtiches? With a plate that supports more than one switch position, you simply widen the swtich opening on the plate, right? If you do that with alps swtiches (because of how they are supported by the plate from the side) you end up with support on a single side (gives a really odd feel?) or with no support at all, right?
The same exact issue applies with alps switches on a cherry+alps plate, right? Is there any other reason why an alps only plate would have an advantage other than switch alignment?
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Thu, 20 April 2017, 20:33:49
I'm interested in this PCB if it support split-spacebar. (IMO, split-spacebar is a must for 60%/65%)
I think I can self-supply acrylic case, so I only need PCB.
I will keep my eyes on high profile alu case though.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 20 April 2017, 20:45:03
I have been trying to... squeeze "numpad" in 60% / 65% board but it's not working at all.
I'm interested in this PCB if it support split-spacebar. (IMO, split-spacebar is a must for 60%/65%)
I think I can self-supply acrylic case, so I only need PCB.
I will keep my eyes on high profile alu case though.
So after a number of possible designs and looking over dimensions, the Vendor, Designer and I weren't able to fit a split space in because of the lack of space. The controller is basically a slimmed down teensy and is positioned horizontally along the bottom where the empty space between the spacebar switch and the stabilizer is. This means that it takes up the space of where a swtich for a split space is.
Post by: neralo on Thu, 20 April 2017, 21:36:37
Any possibility of splitting the 2u keys on the keypad into all 1u? It'd be pretty cool to have a 65% board with a 5x4 "macro pad" connected on the left.
Also, alps support is confirmed on the PCB.
You beautiful human being! Time to start looking for an applicable alps set, 80% chance I'm in for it with alps. Hope you can find someone to help with the plate.
You seem a little more knowledgeable with alps than I am and I was wondering if there's a way to mount alps switches directly to the PCB since I can't seem to find any alps that are PCB mount specific. The thing is that the alps plate should be completely fine everywhere save for the portions of the plates that are completely open horizontally like at the right arrow cluster and where the 2u "+", "enter" and "0" on the numberpad would mount. At those points, the plate would not provide any support at all for alps since the cherry/alps cutouts are cut so that they brace cherry switches top and bottom while the alps switches are braced left and right.
I'm no real expert, I just really enjoy alps switches, but I've been asking around, and I think the most secure option would be to include an option for an ALPS only plate, instead of doing the mx/alps compatibility, so that you don't make too many compromises and we end up with a non-enjoyable experience regardless which switch you use.
Alternatively, I noticed that the swillKB builder has an option to output an MX + ALPS compatible plate. Maybe that might be able to help some? Haven't had the time to play with it myself unfortunately. Link found here: http://builder.swillkb.com/
Post by: rozakiin on Fri, 21 April 2017, 06:48:32
You seem a little more knowledgeable with alps than I am and I was wondering if there's a way to mount alps switches directly to the PCB since I can't seem to find any alps that are PCB mount specific. The thing is that the alps plate should be completely fine everywhere save for the portions of the plates that are completely open horizontally like at the right arrow cluster and where the 2u "+", "enter" and "0" on the numberpad would mount. At those points, the plate would not provide any support at all for alps since the cherry/alps cutouts are cut so that they brace cherry switches top and bottom while the alps switches are braced left and right.
I ran into the same issue with the UK78, the best solution is to have a separate Alps plate as Alps don't have any pcb support like Cherry switches.
Don't you run into the issue of being stuck with a single layout if you opt for support on the alps swtiches? With a plate that supports more than one switch position, you simply widen the swtich opening on the plate, right? If you do that with alps swtiches (because of how they are supported by the plate from the side) you end up with support on a single side (gives a really odd feel?) or with no support at all, right?
The same exact issue applies with alps switches on a cherry+alps plate, right? Is there any other reason why an alps only plate would have an advantage other than switch alignment?
Yes the plate would act as a switch alignment plate rather than support. It is that or have separate switchplates for different Alps layouts.
Post by: B1G_B1RD on Fri, 21 April 2017, 09:39:47
Post by: Findecanor on Fri, 21 April 2017, 13:18:19
Post by: cynviloq on Fri, 21 April 2017, 20:12:40
I like the ability to have a numpad (I don't mind using a numpad left or right-handed) while maintaining mouse ergonomics on the right side.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 23 April 2017, 23:42:57
How about making the numpad in an option that is left-handed? In other words, with + and Enter on the left side.
So there won't be an option for a 2u plus and enter on the left side of the numberpad for clearance reasons on the PCB and the plate, but the numberpad can be configured as a 4x5 sorta macropad which would give you the ability to throw the plus and the enter on the 1u keys on the left.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 27 April 2017, 13:21:44
Post by: a_ak57 on Thu, 27 April 2017, 21:49:20
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 27 April 2017, 22:01:01
Man, even though I'm a topre nerd I'm actually considering this since the ergonomics and functionality of a left-hand numpad would be rather useful for work (would want split backspace). Right-hand numpads must only exist because of legacy, being on the left just makes more sense.Exactly what I had thought. I have been doing some CAD work lately and have really wondered how much nicer it would be with the same mouse placement as a 60 or 65% and to be able to have a numberpad on the side.
Also, the number pad should also be able to be built up as a 4x5 macropad, so for those that want something were they can switch between a macropad (for playing games) and a numberpad (for being productive?), this might be it.
Post by: TypicalOranges on Fri, 28 April 2017, 00:31:02
Super interested in this. Excited to see it move another step beyond the reddit thread. =]
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 28 April 2017, 02:28:54
I would be really interested in the + and enter on the numpad being on the left side; I think it might feel more natural actuating them with the left pinky, opposed to the index. I feel like the three dominant fingers would like to use the numbers more than the pinky.
Super interested in this. Excited to see it move another step beyond the reddit thread. =]
With the left side Plus and Enter, I talked to the designer about it and it seems that there isn't enough room on that side to accomadate all the numberpad layouts (2u zero, 2u enter, 2u plus, 4x5 1u numberpad) which means that it would require a different pcb to accommodate the layouts.
I'm thinking that I could really use the 2u enter and plus keys on the side closer to the alphas though. They would be accessable with your pinky when typing and with your thumb when working on the numberpad. The neat thing is that if you wanted, you could map a macro or some other key onto the 2u keys for games and such for quick access keys that you can mash in an instant. Another thing is that I'm trying to keep too many holes in the PCB from overlapping because as it stands, the PCB should be holtite compatable since it uses the same specs as the xd60 / EEPW PCBs. There are some places I know that there won't be complete coverage on the holtite sockets (RH arrow cluster area) because of overlapping switch placement, but it seems that a lot of people still have been able to run holtites with the overlapping holes. The crucial difference here is that the PCB will also be set up for alps switches and from looking at the left side of the numberpad, will have some pretty unusable solder points if its set up for all the layouts.
It is something that I am interested in though since it might be a little more natural for some people to have the 2u keys on the left so if I can somehow fit it in, I definetly will :D
Post by: TypicalOranges on Fri, 28 April 2017, 09:34:25
I would be really interested in the + and enter on the numpad being on the left side; I think it might feel more natural actuating them with the left pinky, opposed to the index. I feel like the three dominant fingers would like to use the numbers more than the pinky.
Super interested in this. Excited to see it move another step beyond the reddit thread. =]
With the left side Plus and Enter, I talked to the designer about it and it seems that there isn't enough room on that side to accomadate all the numberpad layouts (2u zero, 2u enter, 2u plus, 4x5 1u numberpad) which means that it would require a different pcb to accommodate the layouts.
I'm thinking that I could really use the 2u enter and plus keys on the side closer to the alphas though. They would be accessable with your pinky when typing and with your thumb when working on the numberpad. The neat thing is that if you wanted, you could map a macro or some other key onto the 2u keys for games and such for quick access keys that you can mash in an instant. Another thing is that I'm trying to keep too many holes in the PCB from overlapping because as it stands, the PCB should be holtite compatable since it uses the same specs as the xd60 / EEPW PCBs. There are some places I know that there won't be complete coverage on the holtite sockets (RH arrow cluster area) because of overlapping switch placement, but it seems that a lot of people still have been able to run holtites with the overlapping holes. The crucial difference here is that the PCB will also be set up for alps switches and from looking at the left side of the numberpad, will have some pretty unusable solder points if its set up for all the layouts.
It is something that I am interested in though since it might be a little more natural for some people to have the 2u keys on the left so if I can somehow fit it in, I definetly will :D
I'm not super familiar with Custom Keebs or Keebs in general (I jumped down the rabbit hole earlier this month with an Ergodox Infinity Kit); I know in that case the Alps capability is what kept it from being able to hold the holtites. (Much to my chagrin. I'm sure there are people worse at soldering than me, but there aren't very many).
I tried doing some mock spread sheeting with my left hand on the Numpad and it seemed to be much more comfortable than I imagined. So, if it helps the keyboard be much more structurally sound, I rescind my previous suggestion. :)
Super excited to get 1 or 2 of these kits :D
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 01 May 2017, 03:08:36
I would be really interested in the + and enter on the numpad being on the left side; I think it might feel more natural actuating them with the left pinky, opposed to the index. I feel like the three dominant fingers would like to use the numbers more than the pinky.
Super interested in this. Excited to see it move another step beyond the reddit thread. =]
With the left side Plus and Enter, I talked to the designer about it and it seems that there isn't enough room on that side to accomadate all the numberpad layouts (2u zero, 2u enter, 2u plus, 4x5 1u numberpad) which means that it would require a different pcb to accommodate the layouts.
I'm thinking that I could really use the 2u enter and plus keys on the side closer to the alphas though. They would be accessable with your pinky when typing and with your thumb when working on the numberpad. The neat thing is that if you wanted, you could map a macro or some other key onto the 2u keys for games and such for quick access keys that you can mash in an instant. Another thing is that I'm trying to keep too many holes in the PCB from overlapping because as it stands, the PCB should be holtite compatable since it uses the same specs as the xd60 / EEPW PCBs. There are some places I know that there won't be complete coverage on the holtite sockets (RH arrow cluster area) because of overlapping switch placement, but it seems that a lot of people still have been able to run holtites with the overlapping holes. The crucial difference here is that the PCB will also be set up for alps switches and from looking at the left side of the numberpad, will have some pretty unusable solder points if its set up for all the layouts.
It is something that I am interested in though since it might be a little more natural for some people to have the 2u keys on the left so if I can somehow fit it in, I definetly will :D
I'm not super familiar with Custom Keebs or Keebs in general (I jumped down the rabbit hole earlier this month with an Ergodox Infinity Kit); I know in that case the Alps capability is what kept it from being able to hold the holtites. (Much to my chagrin. I'm sure there are people worse at soldering than me, but there aren't very many).
I tried doing some mock spread sheeting with my left hand on the Numpad and it seemed to be much more comfortable than I imagined. So, if it helps the keyboard be much more structurally sound, I rescind my previous suggestion. :)
Super excited to get 1 or 2 of these kits :D
That sounds fantastic. Just wondering, but with the alps+MX pcb and holtites, how bad is the hole overlap? I've seen a few that are pretty bad, but I was wondering how much they hinder the usefulness of the holtites.
Post by: K.Mak on Mon, 01 May 2017, 22:05:38
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 01 May 2017, 23:08:13
I noticed it supports a 6u spacebar but with 1 1.5 1.5 spacing to the left of it, would it also support 1.5 1 1.5?
Didn't consider that since I had focused on the left arrow cluster, but I'll make sure to add that.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:41:30
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
Post by: keebcat on Fri, 05 May 2017, 21:58:45
Ok, so after talking to the vendor, there will be a number of kits available. MX and alps plates and bent plates will be seperate, which is pretty nice. MOQ for the PCBs will remain at 50 units, but there won't be an MOQ for the plates so it doesn't matter how many are ordered of each. Kits will be most likely be priced accordingly. Pictures of actual samples are coming soon.
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
Ooh, cant wait.
Post by: neralo on Sat, 06 May 2017, 03:09:48
Ok, so after talking to the vendor, there will be a number of kits available. MX and alps plates and bent plates will be seperate, which is pretty nice. MOQ for the PCBs will remain at 50 units, but there won't be an MOQ for the plates so it doesn't matter how many are ordered of each. Kits will be most likely be priced accordingly. Pictures of actual samples are coming soon.
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
looking forwards to the sale. Do you have an estimate for when you want to do the GB. Need to plan my finances haha :))
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 06 May 2017, 03:23:10
Ok, so after talking to the vendor, there will be a number of kits available. MX and alps plates and bent plates will be seperate, which is pretty nice. MOQ for the PCBs will remain at 50 units, but there won't be an MOQ for the plates so it doesn't matter how many are ordered of each. Kits will be most likely be priced accordingly. Pictures of actual samples are coming soon.
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
looking forwards to the sale. Do you have an estimate for when you want to do the GB. Need to plan my finances haha :))
Might run the GB for a few weeks from late june to early july. Optimally, I will somehow recieve the boards right when I get back from vacation early july which would be if I have an internet wherever in Thailand I'm going... If I can communicate with the vendor and everything runs smoothly, the GB will be run for 3-4 weeks and I'll have the boards ready to ship on the 24th of july if not slightly earlier.
I'm planning on getting samples of the final product before I leave though and I'm looking to get the first round of prototypes sometime hopefully this month.
Post by: neralo on Sat, 06 May 2017, 03:53:14
Ok, so after talking to the vendor, there will be a number of kits available. MX and alps plates and bent plates will be seperate, which is pretty nice. MOQ for the PCBs will remain at 50 units, but there won't be an MOQ for the plates so it doesn't matter how many are ordered of each. Kits will be most likely be priced accordingly. Pictures of actual samples are coming soon.
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
looking forwards to the sale. Do you have an estimate for when you want to do the GB. Need to plan my finances haha :))
Might run the GB for a few weeks from late june to early july. Optimally, I will somehow recieve the boards right when I get back from vacation early july which would be if I have an internet wherever in Thailand I'm going... If I can communicate with the vendor and everything runs smoothly, the GB will be run for 3-4 weeks and I'll have the boards ready to ship on the 24th of july if not slightly earlier.
I'm planning on getting samples of the final product before I leave though and I'm looking to get the first round of prototypes sometime hopefully this month.
Perfect timing! Gives the poor wallet some time to recuperate haha :)) enjoy Thailand btw, beautiful country beautiful people, though with the kings passing it might be tad bit subdued
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Post by: ktrezzi on Sat, 06 May 2017, 06:41:49
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 06 May 2017, 14:33:25
Ok, so after talking to the vendor, there will be a number of kits available. MX and alps plates and bent plates will be seperate, which is pretty nice. MOQ for the PCBs will remain at 50 units, but there won't be an MOQ for the plates so it doesn't matter how many are ordered of each. Kits will be most likely be priced accordingly. Pictures of actual samples are coming soon.
High Profile Aluminum Case + MX Stainless Plate
High Profile Aluminum Case + Alps Stainless Plate
Bent Steel MX Compatable Plate
Bent Steel Alps Plate
looking forwards to the sale. Do you have an estimate for when you want to do the GB. Need to plan my finances haha :))
Might run the GB for a few weeks from late june to early july. Optimally, I will somehow recieve the boards right when I get back from vacation early july which would be if I have an internet wherever in Thailand I'm going... If I can communicate with the vendor and everything runs smoothly, the GB will be run for 3-4 weeks and I'll have the boards ready to ship on the 24th of july if not slightly earlier.
I'm planning on getting samples of the final product before I leave though and I'm looking to get the first round of prototypes sometime hopefully this month.
Perfect timing! Gives the poor wallet some time to recuperate haha :)) enjoy Thailand btw, beautiful country beautiful people, though with the kings passing it might be tad bit subdued
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Haha, thanks. Might be getting a few kits for myself too, so my wallet might suffer... Gonna go back to visit family in Thailand and haven't gone in a few years so hopefully everything is well over there
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 06 May 2017, 14:34:12
I´m definetly in for one! :) As we are having a keyboard meetup in Vienna I got to know a guy from Vienna so we split the shipping cost :) Can´t wait for it!
That should make shipping and logistics easier for me. I'll be shipping out late July if that makes a difference.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 06 May 2017, 14:38:12
(http://i.imgur.com/5UgFTvO.jpg)
Post by: neralo on Sun, 07 May 2017, 02:28:31
So I just took a closer look at the aluminum case for the XD84 and realized that it came with some pretty neat aluminum risers instead of the two feet that most flat bottomed cases come with. How many people would be interested in doing this for the southpaw aluminum case? I was thinking of a set of 5 and 9 degree risers to go with each case which would leave the option of 0,5, and 9 degrees for the aluminum case. I'm thinking that this would bump the price for the aluminum case up a little (maybe 10-20 bucks) but it would give 3 options rather than one. Reference image below.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/5UgFTvO.jpg)
do want! Never been a fan of the cone feet tbh.
Post by: a_ak57 on Sun, 07 May 2017, 21:12:49
Post by: Hydra04 on Mon, 08 May 2017, 23:37:14
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 09 May 2017, 01:24:02
Post by: ktrezzi on Wed, 10 May 2017, 13:40:08
I´m definetly in for one! :) As we are having a keyboard meetup in Vienna I got to know a guy from Vienna so we split the shipping cost :) Can´t wait for it!
That should make shipping and logistics easier for me. I'll be shipping out late July if that makes a difference.
For me as well :) USD 30 would maybe have been a dealbreaker (no offense) but to split it would is really acceptable.
Nah, not at all. I´m planing to take this baby to my workplace and I guess I have to work for a couple of years ;)
Post by: stand.geek on Tue, 16 May 2017, 01:01:41
I have been trying to... squeeze "numpad" in 60% / 65% board but it's not working at all.
I'm interested in this PCB if it support split-spacebar. (IMO, split-spacebar is a must for 60%/65%)
I think I can self-supply acrylic case, so I only need PCB.
I will keep my eyes on high profile alu case though.
So after a number of possible designs and looking over dimensions, the Vendor, Designer and I weren't able to fit a split space in because of the lack of space. The controller is basically a slimmed down teensy and is positioned horizontally along the bottom where the empty space between the spacebar switch and the stabilizer is. This means that it takes up the space of where a swtich for a split space is.
So sad that it won't support split spacebar :-[
Actually I was really interested in this set.
Can't live without the split spacebar tbh.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Tue, 23 May 2017, 01:21:17
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 23 May 2017, 01:45:10
Is underglow rgb capable on the alum case? I'm assuming only bent SS
The aluminum case will be a solid aluminum case. No cutouts, no acrylic or anything. Keeping it simple for this first round.
Post by: senter on Tue, 23 May 2017, 02:11:15
Post by: rioc on Tue, 23 May 2017, 02:38:13
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 23 May 2017, 03:20:59
if this gets done I need to know before I jump on the UK78
This one might not be done for a while. I'm still working on the revised case and the PCB is still being designed so that we can have alps and MX support without any issues whatsoever. I'm hoping to get the prototypes around mid June to July.
Post by: rioc on Tue, 23 May 2017, 03:22:09
if this gets done I need to know before I jump on the UK78
This one might not be done for a while. I'm still working on the revised case and the PCB is still being designed so that we can have alps and MX support without any issues whatsoever. I'm hoping to get the prototypes around mid June to July.
alright, but prototypes sounds like a good sign that it'll be made some time in the future... enough for me to save some money and wait for this to happen ;)
Post by: KorbenDallas on Tue, 23 May 2017, 13:35:41
Is underglow rgb capable on the alum case? I'm assuming only bent SS
The aluminum case will be a solid aluminum case. No cutouts, no acrylic or anything. Keeping it simple for this first round.
That's quite fine. Judging by the response results I can see the reasoning. Definitely won't be a deal breaker for me, I'm still very interested in this layout.
Are you considering(😎) anodizing the aluminum in multiple colors or rather bare a aluminum color? Again def not a deal breaker.
Post by: Vibex on Tue, 23 May 2017, 15:50:17
(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).
(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 23 May 2017, 22:48:04
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
I think that that bottom row would be doable, but reversing the numberpad is a little of an issue since the 2u "0" and enter as well as minus interfere with the 1u keys because of alps+MX compatability and how stabilizer cutouts on the PCB will most likely overlap the switch solder pads. I might need some time to figure that one out, but I think I might give that a go if round two happens. Have one left and one right compatable numberpad PCB.
Post by: Vibex on Wed, 24 May 2017, 09:14:05
I think that that bottom row would be doable, but reversing the numberpad is a little of an issue since the 2u "0" and enter as well as minus interfere with the 1u keys because of alps+MX compatability and how stabilizer cutouts on the PCB will most likely overlap the switch solder pads. I might need some time to figure that one out, but I think I might give that a go if round two happens. Have one left and one right compatable numberpad PCB.
Yeah the bottom row didn't look to difficult to do, but I thought the numpad mirroring could be hard. If it can't be done it can't be done. :blank: Since the numpad can be all 1u keys though people can do a kind of "pseudo" mirrored numpad.
One last change that I think would be pretty nice would be to allow the left shift to be either 1.25u + 1u OR 1u + 1.25u. If this and the option for all the bottom row modifiers being 1u keys, people could tuck the left set of arrow keys farther into the keyboard. This would stop it from interacting as much with the numpad enter key, and people wouldn't have to learn a new Enter key placement to use it.
(https://i.imgur.com/1xHpC5J.png)
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 25 May 2017, 00:05:37
I think that that bottom row would be doable, but reversing the numberpad is a little of an issue since the 2u "0" and enter as well as minus interfere with the 1u keys because of alps+MX compatability and how stabilizer cutouts on the PCB will most likely overlap the switch solder pads. I might need some time to figure that one out, but I think I might give that a go if round two happens. Have one left and one right compatable numberpad PCB.
Yeah the bottom row didn't look to difficult to do, but I thought the numpad mirroring could be hard. If it can't be done it can't be done. :blank: Since the numpad can be all 1u keys though people can do a kind of "pseudo" mirrored numpad.
One last change that I think would be pretty nice would be to allow the left shift to be either 1.25u + 1u OR 1u + 1.25u. If this and the option for all the bottom row modifiers being 1u keys, people could tuck the left set of arrow keys farther into the keyboard. This would stop it from interacting as much with the numpad enter key, and people wouldn't have to learn a new Enter key placement to use it.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/1xHpC5J.png)
This also makes it so that people can use a 7u space instead of the 6u space with the left arrow keys, and a 7u spacebar is far easier to get than a 6u.
That is actually super genius. I never thought of the enter key when working with the numberpad, but yeah, it does seem more difficult to have to relearn the enter keys. It seems like a great layout for work though since your arrows are right next to your numberpad and you can throw keys like a backspace or macro Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v onto the 4 keys right above the numberpad.
On another note, split left shift is normally 1.25/1, not 1/1.25, right?
Post by: Vibex on Thu, 25 May 2017, 09:03:05
Haha, I really enjoy designing this kind of stuff, so I spend way to much time thinking about all the possibilities.
That is actually super genius. I never thought of the enter key when working with the numberpad, but yeah, it does seem more difficult to have to relearn the enter keys. It seems like a great layout for work though since your arrows are right next to your numberpad and you can throw keys like a backspace or macro Ctrl+c and Ctrl+v onto the 4 keys right above the numberpad.
On another note, split left shift is normally 1.25/1, not 1/1.25, right?
Yeah the left shift is normally 1.25/1 but I'm pretty sure you can allow for both (and a full size shift). I'm 99% sure that I have seen boards that allow for all three.
Post by: Vibex on Wed, 07 June 2017, 13:00:53
Post by: romevi on Wed, 07 June 2017, 15:49:36
Any idea when/if this board will get produced?
When you stop touching yourself.
Post by: ideus on Thu, 08 June 2017, 08:25:05
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 09 June 2017, 00:18:11
Any idea when/if this board will get produced?
I have the first batch of samples on the way. PCB and case are being produced at the moment and depending on how many revisions it needs, production time will start late august or maybe late September.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 09 June 2017, 00:20:48
Any idea when/if this board will get produced?
I have the first batch of samples on the way. PCB and case are being produced at the moment and depending on how many revisions it needs, production time will start late august or maybe late September.
Aiming to get kits that are starting at 80-100 bucks with a PCB and bent steel case/plate and go all the way up to $180-200 with an aluminum case, steel plate, and PCB.
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 09 June 2017, 02:39:39
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 09 June 2017, 03:54:47
Keeping my fingers crossed for a nice looking case. Even singing simple like the one on the Monarch would be nice.
Just finished up the quick renders for the aluminum case. Nothing too fancy. The case in the render has the 4 degree risers installed. There will also be a 9 degree riser included with the case and it will also be compatible with the cone feet that are widely available.
(http://i.imgur.com/AUgQ6iR.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/f5pc249.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/7rBFGGX.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/oIqYkoa.png)
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 June 2017, 07:10:37
Post by: stoic-lemon on Fri, 09 June 2017, 07:35:31
Post by: ideus on Fri, 09 June 2017, 10:03:39
(http://i.imgur.com/VzYwGdG.gif)
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 10 June 2017, 04:37:13
What about the bended case and the ABS one? If they are similar to the pictures in your r/MK reference they might be an outstanding affordable option for this extended 60% layout.
I will definitely be running a bent steel case since its a great looking option and starts the kit at a price point of around 100 bucks. As for an ABS case, after looking at costs for molds and pricing for the factory, I'd have to sell like a billion of them to get them to a reasonable cost.
The bent steel case will be just like the one for the XD60 and XD84. I am finishing up a GB for the XD84 and got the samples in a few weeks back and it looks wonderful. I'll probably have the case at a 6 or 7 degree angle. Something in between really shallow and really steep since realistically, the bent steel plate is there as a lower cost option and doing that would drive up the costs and give me a headache.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 June 2017, 08:54:09
Would this bent case be notched for top switch removal?
Edit: This might be my target layout for this, if I'd join the GB.
(http://i.imgur.com/C1ynlXe.png)
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 10 June 2017, 10:35:55
When you stop touching yourself.
So never :'(
Keeping my fingers crossed for a nice looking case. Even singing simple like the one on the Monarch would be nice.
Just finished up the quick renders for the aluminum case. Nothing too fancy. The case in the render has the 4 degree risers installed. There will also be a 9 degree riser included with the case and it will also be compatible with the cone feet that are widely available.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/AUgQ6iR.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/f5pc249.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/7rBFGGX.png)Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/oIqYkoa.png)
Oh wow, loving the look of that. Really clean, and I like that it comes with multiple riser options.
I have the first batch of samples on the way. PCB and case are being produced at the moment and depending on how many revisions it needs, production time will start late august or maybe late September.
Seems reasonable
This might be my target layout for this, if I'd join the GB.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/C1ynlXe.png)
This is what I'd be going for.
Top is if we can get the indented left arrow keys.
Bottom is if we can't.
(https://i.imgur.com/MfT4lf8.png)
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 June 2017, 14:15:53
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 10 June 2017, 17:28:12
Why do you want to get two arrow clusters?They are for different use cases.
The one on the right is used for when I'm gaming without a mouse, when I'm flipping through digital comics, etc.
The one on the left is used for when I'm navigating web pages, and other tasks that I want access to the arrow keys and my mouse at the same time.
Right now I do this by just moving my mouse to the other side of my keyboard, but I feel like having two sets of arrow keys is a more elegant solution. Plus I like the way it looks.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 10 June 2017, 18:02:18
Why do you want to get two arrow clusters?They are for different use cases.
The one on the right is used for when I'm gaming without a mouse, when I'm flipping through digital comics, etc.
The one on the left is used for when I'm navigating web pages, and other tasks that I want access to the arrow keys and my mouse at the same time.
Right now I do this by just moving my mouse to the other side of my keyboard, but I feel like having two sets of arrow keys is a more elegant solution. Plus I like the way it looks.
I see. Well, this PCB will allow you to get the space even for two sets of arrows; so, that's awesome too.
Edit: One more thing: Is the backspace on the left an error, or a feature you want?
Post by: Vibex on Sat, 10 June 2017, 22:38:18
I see. Well, this PCB will allow you to get the space even for two sets of arrows; so, that's awesome too.
Edit: One more thing: Is the backspace on the left an error, or a feature you want?
Yeah I use a really weird layout. I've talked about it before (especially at Keycon), but I never did a full write up on why I use it though. I should get on that.
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 11 June 2017, 01:25:32
What about the bended case and the ABS one? If they are similar to the pictures in your r/MK reference they might be an outstanding affordable option for this extended 60% layout.
Ok, im on my computer now and here's what the bent case will look like. There's also a acrylic diffuser on the bottom for the LEDs but I didn't have the board programmed in the picture.
(https://i.redd.it/mk4mwb20nexy.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 June 2017, 15:50:28
What about the bended case and the ABS one? If they are similar to the pictures in your r/MK reference they might be an outstanding affordable option for this extended 60% layout.
Ok, im on my computer now and here's what the bent case will look like. There's also a acrylic diffuser on the bottom for the LEDs but I didn't have the board programmed in the picture.Show Image(https://i.redd.it/mk4mwb20nexy.jpg)
Looks great thank you. As you stated previously, it may allow a great starting point in price for this kit.
Post by: Vibex on Sun, 11 June 2017, 16:51:08
Ok, im on my computer now and here's what the bent case will look like. There's also a acrylic diffuser on the bottom for the LEDs but I didn't have the board programmed in the picture.Definitely gonna get the full case myself, but having this as an option will definitely pull in some more people. :thumb:Show Image(https://i.redd.it/mk4mwb20nexy.jpg)
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 June 2017, 17:23:16
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 11 June 2017, 22:56:42
Will the plates for this kit allow top switch removal?
Yeah, most definetly. Gonna have seperate plates for alps and MX so the fit will be pretty much optimized for them.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 11 June 2017, 23:53:59
Will the plates for this kit allow top switch removal?
Yeah, most definetly. Gonna have seperate plates for alps and MX so the fit will be pretty much optimized for them.
Awesome! Thank you for the confirmation.
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 12 June 2017, 08:55:26
Post by: ideus on Mon, 12 June 2017, 09:12:22
That bent plate case looks nicer than I expected, though I'm not fond of open sides so I'll stick to the traditional. Also glad to hear about switch top removal, this project is looking really nice so hopefully people will be open to the left-hand numpad and support it.
Neither I do like the open sides; but, it would be an awesome option cost-wise. The Al case is just too expensive for the wallet.
Post by: ideus on Fri, 16 June 2017, 18:40:02
Will the plates for this kit allow top switch removal?
Yeah, most definetly. Gonna have seperate plates for alps and MX so the fit will be pretty much optimized for them.
Will the bent cases allow top switch removal, as well?
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 17 June 2017, 05:17:19
Will the plates for this kit allow top switch removal?
Yeah, most definetly. Gonna have seperate plates for alps and MX so the fit will be pretty much optimized for them.
Will the bent cases allow top switch removal, as well?
Yeah, the bent cases will be cut exactly like the normal plates, just with the bent part to support the whole thing.
Wondering what angle you guys like your keyboards at? Something shallow like 4 degrees or soemthing a little more like 10 degrees. There will only be one version each of the alps and MX bent plates so I need to decide on an angle or figure something else out.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 17 June 2017, 09:52:13
Will the plates for this kit allow top switch removal?
Yeah, most definetly. Gonna have seperate plates for alps and MX so the fit will be pretty much optimized for them.
Will the bent cases allow top switch removal, as well?
Yeah, the bent cases will be cut exactly like the normal plates, just with the bent part to support the whole thing.
Wondering what angle you guys like your keyboards at? Something shallow like 4 degrees or soemthing a little more like 10 degrees. There will only be one version each of the alps and MX bent plates so I need to decide on an angle or figure something else out.
I'd say 4 degrees. It is known that the safest position for the wrists to prevent injuries should be neutral or even with a negative tilt. Of course, you can always float your hands over your keyboard. but a high angle makes it a bit difficult, so a shallow one would make a more ergonomic typing surface.
(http://i.imgur.com/2ZWQcXH.png)
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 14 July 2017, 11:54:20
(http://i.imgur.com/6T9iuyg.png)
Post by: romevi on Fri, 14 July 2017, 12:16:11
Alright, so its been a little while since the last update, but I've gotten the layout confirmation for the PCB which will be alps and MX compatable. Most of the layouts and key positions were able to be put onto the PCB. The first batch of samples for the cases, plates, and PCBs are looking to be delivered to my partner in CN by the end of this month and I'm hoping that I'll have them in my hands by the second week of august. If all goes well and no revisions are needed, GB should start at the end of August.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/6T9iuyg.png)
Great!
Post by: lecorsair on Fri, 14 July 2017, 12:50:37
I'm not familiar with the XD60 vendor, but a cursory search shows that it uses TKG as the keymapper, is this also the case with your Southpaw?
Post by: ktrezzi on Sat, 15 July 2017, 08:30:44
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 15 July 2017, 09:47:58
recon,
I'm not familiar with the XD60 vendor, but a cursory search shows that it uses TKG as the keymapper, is this also the case with your Southpaw?
Yep, this will have the same kimera core soldered onto the PCB and use the same TKG keymapper as XD60 and XD84. There should be an available kimera preset for it once everything is finished for it.
Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 18 July 2017, 01:53:16
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 18 July 2017, 02:51:21
Is it by any chance possible to get a already programmed PCB? So that I only have to solder and plug&play?
Being from the same factory and vendor as the XD64 and the XD84, they should be preprogrammed to a certain layout right out of the factory. I'll probably send them a standard layout to flash onto the board when it comes time for production, or at least after I get the first prototype.
Post by: Jimmyjams on Mon, 24 July 2017, 20:13:57
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:04:53
(http://i.imgur.com/phvxAfg.jpg)
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Wed, 26 July 2017, 04:10:27
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Post by: UTEster750 on Wed, 26 July 2017, 06:09:07
Post by: rozakiin on Thu, 03 August 2017, 07:45:31
Alright. We're really moving now. Just got a layout confirmation and the PCB prototype pictures from the factory. Looks so good so far. There was a little delay in the factory not being able to open the file for the case that I sent them so the bent case might take a little longer than the other things. Shouldn't be long though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/phvxAfg.jpg)
Noticed that the PCB does not support Signature Plastics Alps ISO keycap, theirs is rotated so that the switch is the same orientation as the rest of the switches.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 03 August 2017, 22:30:00
Alright. We're really moving now. Just got a layout confirmation and the PCB prototype pictures from the factory. Looks so good so far. There was a little delay in the factory not being able to open the file for the case that I sent them so the bent case might take a little longer than the other things. Shouldn't be long though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/phvxAfg.jpg)
Noticed that the PCB does not support Signature Plastics Alps ISO keycap, theirs is rotated so that the switch is the same orientation as the rest of the switches.
I completely forgot about that... It looks though that if I added another set of thru holes for the alps switches oriented as the other switches, there would be quite a bit of interference with the LEDs. I was thinking though, if you could bend those pins or somehow jump the swtiches over the surface of the PCB onto the pads, something could work.
Post by: rozakiin on Fri, 04 August 2017, 06:03:43
Alright. We're really moving now. Just got a layout confirmation and the PCB prototype pictures from the factory. Looks so good so far. There was a little delay in the factory not being able to open the file for the case that I sent them so the bent case might take a little longer than the other things. Shouldn't be long though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/phvxAfg.jpg)
Noticed that the PCB does not support Signature Plastics Alps ISO keycap, theirs is rotated so that the switch is the same orientation as the rest of the switches.
I completely forgot about that... It looks though that if I added another set of thru holes for the alps switches oriented as the other switches, there would be quite a bit of interference with the LEDs. I was thinking though, if you could bend those pins or somehow jump the swtiches over the surface of the PCB onto the pads, something could work.
I am away from my pc currently so can't show a picture but I was able to fit the rotated switch by not having leds for it since alps don't have led holes.
Post by: reconsiderit on Fri, 04 August 2017, 21:06:45
Alright. We're really moving now. Just got a layout confirmation and the PCB prototype pictures from the factory. Looks so good so far. There was a little delay in the factory not being able to open the file for the case that I sent them so the bent case might take a little longer than the other things. Shouldn't be long though.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/phvxAfg.jpg)
Noticed that the PCB does not support Signature Plastics Alps ISO keycap, theirs is rotated so that the switch is the same orientation as the rest of the switches.
I completely forgot about that... It looks though that if I added another set of thru holes for the alps switches oriented as the other switches, there would be quite a bit of interference with the LEDs. I was thinking though, if you could bend those pins or somehow jump the swtiches over the surface of the PCB onto the pads, something could work.
I am away from my pc currently so can't show a picture but I was able to fit the rotated switch by not having leds for it since alps don't have led holes.
If I recall correctly. you can mount the switches upside down and forgo the LEDs alltoghter, but something that I just noticed is that theres a set of solder pads for a key that would make up a sort of split ANSI enter. Don't know why thats there and didn't notice it at the beginning, but I'm thinking of getting rid of that altogether which would make space for the solder pads that would make for an inline ALPS mount.
Post by: menuhin on Sat, 05 August 2017, 14:01:31
It is a tight competitor in terms of Alps, just that Varmillo's VA86M Magnesium alloy cases (with 4 color options) are out there at $80+ to have, plus the kit and plate cost another $130+
But with this one I can use more keys and caps and I can have a Numpad on the left, and arrows on the right.
Even better than the Alps "Monarch".
Post by: ideus on Sat, 05 August 2017, 23:32:35
(http://i.imgur.com/F0XPLdE.png)
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 14 August 2017, 22:16:34
Also, an update on the layout.
Right now, this is what we have. ISO enter is compatable with the SP ALPS ISO enter as well as the original ALPS ISO enter; both with LEDs installed.
(http://i.imgur.com/e0dl4S7.jpg)
The bottom right corner, highlighted in a dark green can only take complete rows of two key sizes. I've decided that its best to change the layout to a 1u and a 1.5u compatable cluster. a complete 1u layout will still be compatable, as well as a complete 1.5u and the 1.5/1.5/1/1/1 layout. Does anyone have any more suggestions for layouts?
Post by: KorbenDallas on Mon, 14 August 2017, 23:19:37
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xaNe7UI.jpg)
Also, an update on the layout.
Right now, this is what we have. ISO enter is compatable with the SP ALPS ISO enter as well as the original ALPS ISO enter; both with LEDs installed.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e0dl4S7.jpg)
The bottom right corner, highlighted in a dark green can only take complete rows of two key sizes. I've decided that its best to change the layout to a 1u and a 1.5u compatable cluster. a complete 1u layout will still be compatable, as well as a complete 1.5u and the 1.5/1.5/1/1/1 layout. Does anyone have any more suggestions for layouts?
Sorry looking for a little clarification, the bottom right row can as of now be configured to
1/1/1/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/ only?
Or can it now do both those and the 1.25u row configs show in this photo?
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 15 August 2017, 00:19:19
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xaNe7UI.jpg)
Also, an update on the layout.
Right now, this is what we have. ISO enter is compatable with the SP ALPS ISO enter as well as the original ALPS ISO enter; both with LEDs installed.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e0dl4S7.jpg)
The bottom right corner, highlighted in a dark green can only take complete rows of two key sizes. I've decided that its best to change the layout to a 1u and a 1.5u compatable cluster. a complete 1u layout will still be compatable, as well as a complete 1.5u and the 1.5/1.5/1/1/1 layout. Does anyone have any more suggestions for layouts?
Sorry looking for a little clarification, the bottom right row can as of now be configured to
1/1/1/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/ only?
Or can it now do both those and the 1.25u row configs show in this photo?
Here's where I'm looking for some community input. The issue is that we can either have the right side bottom row be as posted above (any combo without 1.5u cap compatability) or have it as compatable with any combo without 1.25u compatability. So to answer your question, pretty much yes, but since we're still at a point in time where we can redesign, I'm thinking of getting some more input.
Although, how I see it is that most people who are gonna want the right hand arrow cluster will be able to go with the traditional 1/1/1 alt, fn and ctrl or the 1.5/1.5 alt, ctrl. If they are running a left handed arrow cluster, they can opt for a uniform row of 1/1/1/1/1/1 or 1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5 and utilize a full 2.75u right shift while they're at it if they want a single left arrow cluster.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Tue, 15 August 2017, 01:19:31
Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/xaNe7UI.jpg)
Also, an update on the layout.
Right now, this is what we have. ISO enter is compatable with the SP ALPS ISO enter as well as the original ALPS ISO enter; both with LEDs installed.Show Image(http://i.imgur.com/e0dl4S7.jpg)
The bottom right corner, highlighted in a dark green can only take complete rows of two key sizes. I've decided that its best to change the layout to a 1u and a 1.5u compatable cluster. a complete 1u layout will still be compatable, as well as a complete 1.5u and the 1.5/1.5/1/1/1 layout. Does anyone have any more suggestions for layouts?
Sorry looking for a little clarification, the bottom right row can as of now be configured to
1/1/1/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1/1/1/
1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5/ only?
Or can it now do both those and the 1.25u row configs show in this photo?
Here's where I'm looking for some community input. The issue is that we can either have the right side bottom row be as posted above (any combo without 1.5u cap compatability) or have it as compatable with any combo without 1.25u compatability. So to answer your question, pretty much yes, but since we're still at a point in time where we can redesign, I'm thinking of getting some more input.
Although, how I see it is that most people who are gonna want the right hand arrow cluster will be able to go with the traditional 1/1/1 alt, fn and ctrl or the 1.5/1.5 alt, ctrl. If they are running a left handed arrow cluster, they can opt for a uniform row of 1/1/1/1/1/1 or 1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5 and utilize a full 2.75u right shift while they're at it if they want a single left arrow cluster.
Well hmm that is a good question. those who want a right hand cluster are covered either way. I personally would prefer the new 1.5 compatabilty because I will most likely run 1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5 with 2.75 rshift (going to run right arrow cluster on my XD84 I just received 😉 Thanks btw). So count me down for 1.5 but definitely can see that being a split decision
Post by: menuhin on Tue, 15 August 2017, 02:15:37
1.5 1.5 1 1 1
Post by: ideus on Tue, 15 August 2017, 09:29:34
If I can choose, I want the dark green to be:
1.5 1.5 1 1 1
+1 for this as well.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:40:46
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
Post by: ideus on Tue, 15 August 2017, 12:48:15
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 15 August 2017, 13:36:28
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
It's quite similar in purpose, so I figured some might be interested. It's also not Alps. But that doesn't mean it might not be of interest to some looking at this project.
Post by: ideus on Tue, 15 August 2017, 18:01:27
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
It's quite similar in purpose, so I figured some might be interested. It's also not Alps. But that doesn't mean it might not be of interest to some looking at this project.
You wrote very similar, which it is not true. There is a thread to post on interesting findings, this is not it.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 15 August 2017, 18:48:02
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
It's quite similar in purpose, so I figured some might be interested. It's also not Alps. But that doesn't mean it might not be of interest to some looking at this project.
You wrote very similar, which it is not true. There is a thread to post on interesting findings, this is not it.
You don't think it's similar. Cool. I do. I don't see what the problem is to post this in case someone who wants a numpad on the left on a board wants it. Why are you so stressed over semantics?
Post by: ideus on Tue, 15 August 2017, 18:55:15
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
It's quite similar in purpose, so I figured some might be interested. It's also not Alps. But that doesn't mean it might not be of interest to some looking at this project.
You wrote very similar, which it is not true. There is a thread to post on interesting findings, this is not it.
You don't think it's similar. Cool. I do. I don't see what the problem is to post this in case someone who wants a numpad on the left on a board wants it. Why are you so stressed over semantics?
A post referring to other product is off topic in an IC thread, no matter how similar you consider that it is. If you are interested in the Southpaw please stay in topic, you can refer the other keyboard somewhere else.
Post by: chuckdee on Tue, 15 August 2017, 19:03:58
FYI: There's a very similar kb to this that just released and is available for shipping.
https://www.primekb.com/products/prime_l
That keyboard is totally different, it is close to a sixty footprint but with a number pad squeezed in that makes the sixty alpha area and mods incomplete, nothing to do with the Southpaw that is a full size sixty plus a number pad.
It's quite similar in purpose, so I figured some might be interested. It's also not Alps. But that doesn't mean it might not be of interest to some looking at this project.
You wrote very similar, which it is not true. There is a thread to post on interesting findings, this is not it.
You don't think it's similar. Cool. I do. I don't see what the problem is to post this in case someone who wants a numpad on the left on a board wants it. Why are you so stressed over semantics?
A post referring to other product is off topic in an IC thread, no matter how similar you consider that it is. If you are interested in the Southpaw please stay in topic, you can refer the other keyboard somewhere else.
Do you realize that if you'd just let it go, there would be no other topic in this? It was a quick PSA. If that offended you, oh well.
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 15 August 2017, 21:26:40
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 16 August 2017, 02:24:22
My vote would be 1.5u support over 1.25u support for that bottom right cluster. I feel like more people would opt to use 1.5/1.5/1/1/1/ over the 1/1.25/1.25/1.25/1.25 layout (if they don't just go with the 6 1u keys).
Well, that looks like the layout that we're going with. Gonna be 1.5u and 1u compatability for the bottom row. Makes a little more sense.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Wed, 16 August 2017, 02:56:45
My vote would be 1.5u support over 1.25u support for that bottom right cluster. I feel like more people would opt to use 1.5/1.5/1/1/1/ over the 1/1.25/1.25/1.25/1.25 layout (if they don't just go with the 6 1u keys).
Well, that looks like the layout that we're going with. Gonna be 1.5u and 1u compatability for the bottom row. Makes a little more sense.
... ;D
Post by: ideus on Wed, 16 August 2017, 08:29:40
My vote would be 1.5u support over 1.25u support for that bottom right cluster. I feel like more people would opt to use 1.5/1.5/1/1/1/ over the 1/1.25/1.25/1.25/1.25 layout (if they don't just go with the 6 1u keys).
Well, that looks like the layout that we're going with. Gonna be 1.5u and 1u compatability for the bottom row. Makes a little more sense.
Great!
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 20 August 2017, 23:25:58
Post by: menuhin on Mon, 21 August 2017, 02:14:20
For "flawless" finish I myself will go with one of those Korean custom designs - their QC is of another level, and their B-stock which drops normally with a < $100-$150 discount looks almost perfect to me and the flaws need some magnifying glass to find out.
One of my TaoBao custom case basically needs just 60€ - that is the actual price they can set and still gain some profit in China.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Mon, 21 August 2017, 04:38:28
Post by: ideus on Mon, 21 August 2017, 07:45:35
As I am planning a needed build, I would greatly appreciate to get some feedback on the availability of the low cost bend plate, if it is not, I would like to know it ASAP to go with my B option.
Post by: rozakiin on Mon, 21 August 2017, 09:59:51
the only other similar option I know about is the ALPS only alternative which name I do not remember.
The Monarch - <25 of those boards exist.
Post by: ipreferpie on Mon, 21 August 2017, 11:36:01
Post by: a_ak57 on Mon, 21 August 2017, 14:44:58
Post by: thad on Thu, 24 August 2017, 13:31:35
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Post by: stoic-lemon on Sun, 27 August 2017, 02:32:59
Post by: bearz42 on Sat, 02 September 2017, 16:22:54
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:46:05
I realized that I still haven't posted pictures of the whole board, so here it is. The first revision of the case and all. Right now I'm working with the vendor to find a different factory to do the case. This one came out with so-so anodizing and for the price, I think I could find something better. Also, I'm working on a redesign of the 9 degree (taller) riser since this one looks really bulky and out of place.
(https://i.imgur.com/kdVVSI1.jpg)
PCB wise, the SP ISO ALPS has been corrected and should be able to take both the normal ALPS ISO enter as well as the SP ALPS ISO enter. Also, the bottom row was revised to take 1u and 1.5u so the layout should be final now. I'll try and update everything to the most recent revisions as soon as I can so as many of you guys can get an idea of where everything is and how everything will come to look like. Once I get the revised PCB and case, I'll go ahead and put up another interest check on here and reddit so that I can get everything around to launching the GB.
Post by: ideus on Sun, 03 September 2017, 14:56:29
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 06 September 2017, 00:28:41
When we can expect the GB launching?
Its TBD at the moment, but we're looking at the next month if everything goes smoothly. Worse case would most likely be sometime around November.
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 06 September 2017, 02:19:05
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 06 September 2017, 02:20:58
Are the prices still reasonably on target?
There has been multiple changes production wise during the course of course of prototyping, but I gave those inital estimates quite a lot of room, so yeah, they should still be pretty close. I'm still waiting on the final prototypes though and still need to discuss a final price with the vendor.
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 06 September 2017, 02:52:09
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 06 September 2017, 03:10:14
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 06 September 2017, 09:11:30
I am not south paw but!! I might be interested in this for MMO gaming!... I could see having my numb pad on the left as being a large boon! cause then I could ditch the MMO mouse. Use my left to cue up skills... while moving with mouse. Special if the price is as reasonable as people are saying! It be really really nice to ditch the mouse and get something nicer. I will have to keep eye on this for sure.
This is one of the things somebody has brought up before and I ended up getting it to work with the board. The number pad on the left can also be built up as a full macro pad with a 4x5 1u grid which gives you a full 20 macros within reach
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Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 06 September 2017, 13:15:14
Post by: Miotch92 on Sat, 09 September 2017, 02:41:43
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Post by: elfick on Tue, 12 September 2017, 11:56:11
I know it would amount to a separate project, but have you considered doing something like this with an extra row on top for the F-keys? Basically a Cooler Master TK with the TK on the left? I would be so in on that? Has something like this been done?I am not south paw but!! I might be interested in this for MMO gaming!... I could see having my numb pad on the left as being a large boon! cause then I could ditch the MMO mouse. Use my left to cue up skills... while moving with mouse. Special if the price is as reasonable as people are saying! It be really really nice to ditch the mouse and get something nicer. I will have to keep eye on this for sure.
This is one of the things somebody has brought up before and I ended up getting it to work with the board. The number pad on the left can also be built up as a full macro pad with a 4x5 1u grid which gives you a full 20 macros within reach
Post by: elfick on Wed, 13 September 2017, 11:15:14
Post by: a_ak57 on Wed, 13 September 2017, 18:22:59
Did a quick mockup of what I was thinking. Blue is unassigned, red is non-standard size, yellow is non-standard location.
Unfortunately that won't work since the PCB doesn't have that 6th/F row. Though that's an idea for an R2 or another buy, a southpaw 96 key layout.
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 13 September 2017, 19:32:15
The case, bent plate, and revised PCB is coming in from the factory to the vendor in China at the moment. I'll update you guys once it arrives.
Post by: ktrezzi on Mon, 18 September 2017, 01:16:45
Post by: reconsiderit on Wed, 20 September 2017, 20:59:42
Raw Revised CNC Case
(https://i.imgur.com/psSBJuR.jpg)
Bent Stainless Steel Plate
(https://i.imgur.com/mSbbeMD.jpg)
Stainless Plate - Satin/Blasted finish
(https://i.imgur.com/YvDrtea.jpg)
(Detail)
(https://i.imgur.com/luM5rtF.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/wW3Bxcb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/N4QHqsR.jpg)
Vendor just got the samples in from the factory this week and they're looking just as expected. There was a little miscommunication and I forgot to add switchtop removability but will have that done once the next round of samples come in. The alps plate will also be done at the same time. The factory that is being used for the steel plates is fufilling a GB at the moment so we are going to have to wait till they're done to get the next round of samples. Shouldn't be an issue though since QC as well as design is pretty much finalized and up to my standards. It's just functionality that we'll be testing for and that can be done without having those shipped here, saving us a considerable amount of time.
Another thing that I wanted to bring up is the interest in CNC case finishes. There's the standard satin/blasted anodized finish that will be available for the cases but I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a raw CNC'd finish or a type 3 hard anodization for the cases. I am really liking the industrial look of the machine marks and the polished sections of the raw case, but I realize that it might not be for everyone. The type 3 hard anodization will cost a considerable amount more since it is a much more durable coating and will most likely need to be done at a different factory or here in the United States. It's the same type of anodization that's found on DLC finished knives, cycling components and gun lowers. It's extremely scratch resistant and yields something between a satin and gloss finish. Something to note though it will probably be done without the bead blast finish and will keep the machine marks, but finish them in a different color and completely remove any of the natural coloring that the aluminum has as a billet.
Edit: I'll most likely be bringing this to the November 11th Bay area mech meetup so if you want to take a look at it, I'll (hopefully) be there.
Post by: KorbenDallas on Wed, 20 September 2017, 23:09:43
I'm down with all options even the raw aluminum, it looks quite nice. If the additional cost isn't to high for the type 3 anodizing id prefer that over all but would be on board either way. thanks for the update!
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 21 September 2017, 01:02:37
So what other colors were you considering?
I'm down with all options even the raw aluminum, it looks quite nice. If the additional cost isn't to high for the type 3 anodizing id prefer that over all but would be on board either way. thanks for the update!
The colors are gonna be pretty standard and probably the same ones as those found on all the aluminum cases out there. The thing is though is that an MOQ of 10 units need to me met for each color. Judging from the current GB that I'm running, those colors are gonna be black, grey, and blue or red. Option wise, we'll have black, grey, silver, blue, red, yellow, and green.
The type 3 anodization will be the same or more than cerakote which is around $50. Not sure how many people would be interested at that price point, but I would certainly like to give it a go.
Post by: theillumedpanda on Thu, 21 September 2017, 02:17:14
Post by: tofgerl on Thu, 21 September 2017, 11:53:19
I'm unable to use anything above six, personally, and prefer 0 angle due to actually using my keyboards instead of looking at them all day :p (It hurts my wrists, is the point...)
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 21 September 2017, 17:19:34
That's a great looking wrap-around-plate. I know you've talked about different angled risers on the case, what will the angle of the plate be?
I'm unable to use anything above six, personally, and prefer 0 angle due to actually using my keyboards instead of looking at them all day :p (It hurts my wrists, is the point...)
I'm aiming for something in between the high and low angles of the aluminum case so it'll most likely be 6 or 8 degrees. The bent plate is being done by the factory themselves and I did tell them that I wanted a 6 degree incline if I recall correctly, but that will have to be looked over when it gets here. It also might change depending on how stiff the plate is. Might need to do some little changes here and there if it isn't stiff enough horizontally because that was an issue that I already had with the XD84. The only remedy that I had found for it would be to build it up with PCB mount switches which gave it a little more stiffness.
I'm trying to see if I can get a really simple wrist rest done in the same style as the bent plate at the moment since, in my head, it seems like something that wouldn't be too expensive and something that would look and work really well with the bent case.
Post by: Ammomruoy on Fri, 22 September 2017, 22:16:47
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Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 23 September 2017, 00:40:49
Looking good. When can i give my monies?
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Soon... (I hope)
Post by: tofgerl on Sat, 23 September 2017, 08:14:41
Great. Worst case scenario, I can put something under the front legs.That's a great looking wrap-around-plate. I know you've talked about different angled risers on the case, what will the angle of the plate be?
I'm unable to use anything above six, personally, and prefer 0 angle due to actually using my keyboards instead of looking at them all day :p (It hurts my wrists, is the point...)
I'm aiming for something in between the high and low angles of the aluminum case so it'll most likely be 6 or 8 degrees. The bent plate is being done by the factory themselves and I did tell them that I wanted a 6 degree incline if I recall correctly, but that will have to be looked over when it gets here. It also might change depending on how stiff the plate is. Might need to do some little changes here and there if it isn't stiff enough horizontally because that was an issue that I already had with the XD84. The only remedy that I had found for it would be to build it up with PCB mount switches which gave it a little more stiffness.
I'm trying to see if I can get a really simple wrist rest done in the same style as the bent plate at the moment since, in my head, it seems like something that wouldn't be too expensive and something that would look and work really well with the bent case.
Post by: ideus on Sat, 23 September 2017, 10:26:39
(https://i.imgur.com/9W5rKqX.jpg)
Post by: Softkore on Sat, 23 September 2017, 12:57:03
Post by: Tom_Kazansky on Sun, 24 September 2017, 23:31:27
This is absolutely gorgeous, and I know this is almost blasphemy to ask... but is there any chance at all that this will ever exist in a right-hand numpad version? I would buy it in a heartbeat.
numpad on right side?
if so, it did exist and I guess you missed it: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90060.0
Post by: Softkore on Mon, 25 September 2017, 06:59:26
This is absolutely gorgeous, and I know this is almost blasphemy to ask... but is there any chance at all that this will ever exist in a right-hand numpad version? I would buy it in a heartbeat.
numpad on right side?
if so, it did exist and I guess you missed it: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=90060.0
Yeah, the UK78 was the case I wanted. Unfortunately I wasn't even into the hobby at the time. I've been posting mehmarket threads hoping someone wants to sell theirs.
There's a few other cases in the same format, but they all have fatal flaws in my opinion. I wan an aluminum case without a bunch of acrylic light strips. I also want a case without a space/blocker between the numpad and the rest of the keys.
- Redscarf II ver.D - Acrylic case
- Duck Lightsaver - All about the acrylic light strips
- PrimeKB - Weird chamfered corners and nonstandard key sizes
- Vortex ViBE - Looks like possibly a small space between numpad and rest of keys? Not sure on this one
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 09 October 2017, 00:16:10
(https://i.imgur.com/4hKQ51f.jpg)
Complete Album Here: https://imgur.com/a/cpIdF
Aluminum Case
Compared to the stuff I've seen in the past, the quality of the CNC case is pretty good. Tiny little nick from the CNC machine, but the scratches are there from being passed around to a million people. Nice sharp machining lines and clean threads. One of the second set of feet were machined a little hastily though (looks like they weren't secured down tight enough) and the finish was pretty rough but that's something that I'll make sure to note when this goes into production.
The raw cnc texture on the case is pretty awesome. Sorta like a pearlescent finish that becomes a rainbow in bright daylight. The finish seems to be a little more scratch prone than the traditional anodization, but not by much. It is somewhat of a fingerprint magnet though being a semi-mirror finish.
A little change has to be made to the USB port though since it's too narrow. I'll probably go ahead and widen the whole opening instead to stepping it since it looks a little cleaner.
(https://i.imgur.com/6f7Q8pC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MBQhsm2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/iCgkN8P.jpg)
Bent Steel Plate, Steel Case, Steel Plate
These are done by the same factory as that of the XD60 and XD84. Same solid quality. The issue with flex on the bent plate that I had feared earlier isn't there since the front edge of the plate was brought a lot lower than with the 60 and 75 percent keyboards. Acrylic diffuser is a hair narrower than the last and makes fitting it a million times easier. The USB slot is now a rounded cutout instead of the square.
The designer also did an integrated plate/case with this one. I wasn't expecting much but the build is really nice and solid. The surfaces around the sides are layered over twice and it weighs a little less than the aluminum case and plate.
(https://i.imgur.com/XzqerZm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/hqc78UY.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/7mwDq7a.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/FywgjnO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/EvXEGJS.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/qKmwwf9.jpg)
PCB
This is the first revision of the PCB without the SP ALPS ISO enter. Quality wise, everything looks good and all of the layouts look to be there. I'll need to double check 7u and 6u spacebar layouts again though.
(https://i.imgur.com/jYiCNm7.jpg)
Summary
Green light on quality and design. I'll build another updated interest check on price and other technicalities this week when I get a second round of price estimates from the vendor.
Post by: Puddsy on Mon, 09 October 2017, 00:16:51
Post by: tofgerl on Mon, 09 October 2017, 00:33:43
Post by: KorbenDallas on Mon, 09 October 2017, 01:12:42
Post by: ideus on Mon, 09 October 2017, 07:46:59
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 09 October 2017, 22:07:11
https://goo.gl/forms/2SjXkm33ZVYebQOj1
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 09 October 2017, 22:19:42
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 09 October 2017, 23:22:53
Which one is the Integrated Case Kit? I'm interested in the Bent Steel Plate, Steel Case, Steel Plate - the one on 4 an d 5 pictures under "Bent Steel Plate, Steel Case, Steel Plate". Which option is that in the IC form?-
Picture 4, 5, and 6 are the integrated steel case on the IC form.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 09 October 2017, 23:25:02
Which one is the Integrated Case Kit? I'm interested in the Bent Steel Plate, Steel Case, Steel Plate - the one on 4 an d 5 pictures under "Bent Steel Plate, Steel Case, Steel Plate". Which option is that in the IC form?-
Picture 4, 5, and 6 are the integrated steel case on the IC form.
I'm in for one. Thanks.
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 09 October 2017, 23:25:58
Post by: lzlzh035 on Tue, 10 October 2017, 00:18:29
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 10 October 2017, 04:05:03
What's the angle of the integrated steel case?
If my math skills are still sharp, should be around 4.5 degrees
Post by: dead_pixel_design on Tue, 10 October 2017, 05:53:41
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 10 October 2017, 12:38:53
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Post by: ktrezzi on Tue, 10 October 2017, 14:06:59
Post by: tofgerl on Tue, 10 October 2017, 14:28:49
Perfect! That's my choice, then :)What's the angle of the integrated steel case?
If my math skills are still sharp, should be around 4.5 degrees
Post by: senter on Tue, 10 October 2017, 14:59:39
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 10 October 2017, 15:10:50
I have a very hard time trying to guess what's what in the Interest Form. I think it would help everyone a lot!
I for one would really appreciate it.
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Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 10 October 2017, 19:20:12
reconsiderit can you please names on the pictures in OP?
I have a very hard time trying to guess what's what in the Interest Form. I think it would help everyone a lot!
I for one would really appreciate it.
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Cleared up the form earlier and added an album with labeled pictures so it would be easier. Linked below to clear things up here too.
https://imgur.com/a/TbVG0
Post by: ihalatch on Thu, 12 October 2017, 02:03:17
Post by: tigerali on Thu, 12 October 2017, 04:30:48
Post by: ideus on Thu, 12 October 2017, 07:22:55
Total newbie question: would it be possible to do left and right arrow clusters and a left side OS key on any of the layouts?
The layouts with arrow clusters in both sides have two modifier keys at the left only, one can be use for alt, the other can be your OS key and caps lock could be your control key; but, you cannot have alt, control and os keys at the left.
Post by: tigerali on Mon, 16 October 2017, 16:39:48
Post by: HotRoderX on Mon, 16 October 2017, 17:06:29
Thank you! Second dumb question: what kits would I need from the Legacy drop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open) for this keyboard?
you can always wait for another reply but to fill the board looks like you need the following kits
Base
Mods
extras
The kits while not sure cheap have pretty nice coverage ^_^ I am basing this off the photos that where posted by OP
Post by: tigerali on Mon, 16 October 2017, 20:53:13
Thank you! Second dumb question: what kits would I need from the Legacy drop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open) for this keyboard?
you can always wait for another reply but to fill the board looks like you need the following kits
Base
Mods
extras
The kits while not sure cheap have pretty nice coverage ^_^ I am basing this off the photos that where posted by OP
Seems like I'd need the Numpad too?
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 16 October 2017, 21:10:58
Thank you! Second dumb question: what kits would I need from the Legacy drop https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open (https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-mito-dsa-legacy-custom-keycap-set?mode=guest_open) for this keyboard?
you can always wait for another reply but to fill the board looks like you need the following kits
Base
Mods
extras
The kits while not sure cheap have pretty nice coverage ^_^ I am basing this off the photos that where posted by OP
Seems like I'd need the Numpad too?
Looks like the alphas includes everything for the numpad, save for the numlock, /, *, + and enter which are included in the mods.
Post by: tigerali on Mon, 16 October 2017, 21:12:03
Also, you're in Sunnyvale? My office is out there :)
Post by: ihalatch on Mon, 16 October 2017, 21:12:21
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 16 October 2017, 22:03:24
Fantastic.
Also, you're in Sunnyvale? My office is out there :)
Yep, right in the middle of sunnyvale.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 16 October 2017, 22:05:33
When are you planing to start the GB?
I don't want to give any exact dates since I have a lot at school at the moment and want to completely finish my last GB before starting this one so sometime between the 28th of this month and the 4th of next month and will run it to the 1st of december.
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 October 2017, 00:54:14
Post by: Darknight00z on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:26:59
Post by: reconsiderit on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:41:50
Is the purpose of the acrylic defuser for PCB protection, since I don't think there is underglow support?Hmm, I think I completely forgot to mention that, but there is RGB Underglow for this, but yeah, also for PCB support.
Post by: forumusername on Thu, 19 October 2017, 20:49:43
Post by: euphxenos on Fri, 20 October 2017, 16:14:57
So what are you planning on using?
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 21 October 2017, 00:49:22
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/11/Andy-Dwyer-Shock.gif)Is the purpose of the acrylic defuser for PCB protection, since I don't think there is underglow support?Hmm, I think I completely forgot to mention that, but there is RGB Underglow for this, but yeah, also for PCB support.
That is so freaking awesome!
Will the underglow be able to shine though the alu case though?
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 21 October 2017, 00:53:45
This is the Alu case right? Did I read it correctly that it will only support alps?
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Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 21 October 2017, 01:50:27
(http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/11/Andy-Dwyer-Shock.gif)Is the purpose of the acrylic defuser for PCB protection, since I don't think there is underglow support?Hmm, I think I completely forgot to mention that, but there is RGB Underglow for this, but yeah, also for PCB support.
That is so freaking awesome!
Will the underglow be able to shine though the alu case though?
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Underglow will not shine through the Alu case for this one. The case is CNC'd out of a solid block of aluminum with no openings on the bottom of the case. On the raw case that I have pictured, if you max out the brightness in a dim room, the underglow does show through the gap between the plate and case and it looks pretty neat. I'll see if I can grab some photos of that when I have time
Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 21 October 2017, 02:01:09
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BQzYOYf.jpg)
This is the Alu case right? Did I read it correctly that it will only support alps?
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Ok, so this is something that I have to clear up
There are three case options. An aluminum case which is the one pictured, a bent steel and an integrated steel case. The aluminum case has a separate plate whereas the bent case and integrated plate are basically the case and plate in a single structure.
The plates are different for ALPS and MX. I decided to go with separate plates for each switch mount because of the number of keys packed together for different layouts would make the plate basically ineffective for some alps keys and you'll basically be completely supported by the PCB, which in areas withs lots of layouts, is akin to swiss cheese.
So the CNC case itself will be the same for alps and mx mount, just with different plates. If you wanted to, you could purchase a second PCB/plate in a different mount and swap it into the case. The bent plate and integrated case will be cut for differently for MX and alps switches, therefore, if you get an alps compatible bent plate or integrated case, you won't be able to do anything to use it with MX switches.
I feel that this could be a little more clear and would like some feedback on how this should be explained before I start the GB so that nobody is confused.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 21 October 2017, 04:52:10
Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/BQzYOYf.jpg)
This is the Alu case right? Did I read it correctly that it will only support alps?
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Ok, so this is something that I have to clear up
There are three case options. An aluminum case which is the one pictured, a bent steel and an integrated steel case. The aluminum case has a separate plate whereas the bent case and integrated plate are basically the case and plate in a single structure.
The plates are different for ALPS and MX. I decided to go with separate plates for each switch mount because of the number of keys packed together for different layouts would make the plate basically ineffective for some alps keys and you'll basically be completely supported by the PCB, which in areas withs lots of layouts, is akin to swiss cheese.
So the CNC case itself will be the same for alps and mx mount, just with different plates. If you wanted to, you could purchase a second PCB/plate in a different mount and swap it into the case. The bent plate and integrated case will be cut for differently for MX and alps switches, therefore, if you get an alps compatible bent plate or integrated case, you won't be able to do anything to use it with MX switches.
I feel that this could be a little more clear and would like some feedback on how this should be explained before I start the GB so that nobody is confused.
I think a problem people have is figuring out what's what because there are 3 cases, two are pretty similar and they are all metal :) What material are the int. and bent cases?
I think I get it though. Basically there are 3 types of cases in MX or Alps and it can be a little confusing unless it's simplified for people. Here's how I would explain it:
Options
- Thick CNC Alu case + plate MX
- Thick CNC Alu case + plate Alps
- Thin Integrated case MX
- Thin Integrated case Alps
- "Floating" bent plate case MX
- "Floating" bent plate case Alps
Post by: crtexcnndrm99 on Sat, 21 October 2017, 05:00:06
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Post by: reconsiderit on Sat, 21 October 2017, 15:57:33
One last thing to clarify: does it come with the thick, duck style feet or cone feet? I’m hopping it’s the former ;)
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It'll come with two sets of the duck style feet. One in 9 degrees and one in 4 degrees. It's also compatible with cone feet which will give an angle of 7 or 8 degrees iirc.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Sat, 21 October 2017, 16:02:10
Thank you for doing all this work!
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Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 22 October 2017, 20:05:13
Alright, so the XDA keyset that goes with this will looks sorta like this. Not final, but shouldn't really change too much. The 20 blanks on the left are offered as an add-on kit and is an additional 10ish dollars. The base will be $60-80, but just waiting on the quote from the vendor now who will be organizing this with MZ and doing the dye-subbing. The colors should be the same as XDA Milestone and the mods should also be the same, but I'm going with the left-top justified legends with this set.
Also, threw GMK Yuri onto the board last night and it looks gorgeous.
(https://i.imgur.com/mcsGWcr.jpg)
Post by: euphxenos on Sun, 22 October 2017, 22:31:11
Post by: reconsiderit on Sun, 22 October 2017, 23:45:54
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 23 October 2017, 02:10:50
https://switchplate.co/collections/southpaw-extended-65-group-buy
Post by: euphxenos on Mon, 23 October 2017, 02:32:43
Post by: GreyAmbience on Mon, 23 October 2017, 08:24:26
It would be helpful if you added a picture showing the different color options for the cases and anodized plates.I agree
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Post by: crzone on Mon, 23 October 2017, 08:38:41
Assuming that I want to buy a bent plate KB and I already have some switches, I would have to buy at a minimum the PCB, the MX Bent Plate and some stabilizers, right?
In addition, are the feet compatible with the bent steel case or are they just for the aluminum case?
What is the cost of the delivery for Europe?
What payment methods are there?
Thanks!
Post by: Vadurr on Mon, 23 October 2017, 12:03:13
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Is this 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row going to be supported?
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 23 October 2017, 12:22:10
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Is this 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row going to be supported?
The 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row isn't supported iirc, but I'll check when I have the board in front of me. I think it was because we couldn't cram the pads for 1u, 1.25u, and 1.5u all into a single space with the other keys we were trying to fit there.
Post by: reconsiderit on Mon, 23 October 2017, 19:18:41
This KB has me interested but I have a bunch of questions.
Assuming that I want to buy a bent plate KB and I already have some switches, I would have to buy at a minimum the PCB, the MX Bent Plate and some stabilizers, right?
In addition, are the feet compatible with the bent steel case or are they just for the aluminum case?
What is the cost of the delivery for Europe?
What payment methods are there?
Thanks!
Working with candykeys in Germany to organize a sorta last minute EU proxy. It means that the GB will take a little longer (a few days at the most) before it opens, but I think that it'll make it much more accessible to people in the EU.
Post by: tigerali on Mon, 23 October 2017, 20:45:07
Quote
Local pickup is also available.
yas!
Post by: rozakiin on Tue, 24 October 2017, 05:19:38
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Is this 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row going to be supported?
The 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row isn't supported iirc, but I'll check when I have the board in front of me. I think it was because we couldn't cram the pads for 1u, 1.25u, and 1.5u all into a single space with the other keys we were trying to fit there.
It should be possible but it is not that easy, you need to shift the pads around the holes off centre to allow room between the pads, something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90060.0;attach=174426;image
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 24 October 2017, 05:25:52
That would be so amazingThis KB has me interested but I have a bunch of questions.
Assuming that I want to buy a bent plate KB and I already have some switches, I would have to buy at a minimum the PCB, the MX Bent Plate and some stabilizers, right?
In addition, are the feet compatible with the bent steel case or are they just for the aluminum case?
What is the cost of the delivery for Europe?
What payment methods are there?
Thanks!
Working with candykeys in Germany to organize a sorta last minute EU proxy. It means that the GB will take a little longer (a few days at the most) before it opens, but I think that it'll make it much more accessible to people in the EU.
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Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 24 October 2017, 13:44:35
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Is this 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row going to be supported?
The 1.5/1/1.5 bottom row isn't supported iirc, but I'll check when I have the board in front of me. I think it was because we couldn't cram the pads for 1u, 1.25u, and 1.5u all into a single space with the other keys we were trying to fit there.
It should be possible but it is not that easy, you need to shift the pads around the holes off centre to allow room between the pads, something like this https://geekhack.org/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=90060.0;attach=174426;image
The issue that we also ran into was the stabilizer holes since we couldn't do plate mount stabs in most places. This is the issue with the numpad where the enter and 2u 0 would interfere at the pads and stab holes. The UK78 was able to accommodate it because of how it didn't have the 1u at the end where this has the right handed arrow cluster. Basically, it's limited to 2, at most 3 sizes at one location, but since we had offset pads for a 1u, 1.25u and an offset 1.5u closer to the center of the three keys, we couldn't accommodate the standard 1.5u on the end.
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Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 24 October 2017, 15:02:26
Post by: graefeln on Tue, 24 October 2017, 16:03:20
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 24 October 2017, 17:13:11
Would it be possible to add a bottom row like this to the pcb/plate.Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/kypxbSk.png)
It would allow people to use 7u spacebars which some people love.
EDIT: It would also be pretty cool if the numpad could be flipped (so that the enter key and the rest of the symobols are on the left side of the numbers instead of the right).Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/CxMoC8e.png)
Is this 1.5, 1, 1.5 bottom row going to be supported?
+1 for flipped numpad
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Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 24 October 2017, 18:18:27
Not important, just curious; What color will the pcb be?
Most likely black or white, looking at the feedback from the interest check. Leaning towards white as it'll reflect underglow better.
Post by: tofgerl on Wed, 25 October 2017, 00:37:54
Prices also look good.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Wed, 25 October 2017, 00:42:44
Good idea. Underglow is importantNot important, just curious; What color will the pcb be?
Most likely black or white, looking at the feedback from the interest check. Leaning towards white as it'll reflect underglow better.
Post by: HotRoderX on Wed, 25 October 2017, 18:57:02
Post by: ktrezzi on Fri, 27 October 2017, 16:50:15
This KB has me interested but I have a bunch of questions.
Assuming that I want to buy a bent plate KB and I already have some switches, I would have to buy at a minimum the PCB, the MX Bent Plate and some stabilizers, right?
In addition, are the feet compatible with the bent steel case or are they just for the aluminum case?
What is the cost of the delivery for Europe?
What payment methods are there?
Thanks!
Working with candykeys in Germany to organize a sorta last minute EU proxy. It means that the GB will take a little longer (a few days at the most) before it opens, but I think that it'll make it much more accessible to people in the EU.
Big thanks for that buddy! You are the real MVP! It looks like your seriously thought about EVERYTHING!
Cant wait!
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 01:50:45
Up and running now. Locking this thread when the GB post is passed by the mods. Huge thanks to everyone who has helped out and provided input. Really looking forward to getting these boards out to everyone. All the tiny changes and decisions will be posted to the GB thread. Working on an Asia/Oceania dist. at the moment, so stay tuned for that.
North America: www.switchplate.co
EU: www.candykeys.com
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:01:12
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:03:16
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:06:34
GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case - is the PCB included?
Not included. The integrated case is the case and plate as one unit. You'll need the integrated plate and PCB at a minimum.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:09:14
1) GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Bent Plate: MX
2) GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - PCB.
I thought the integrated case includes the bent plate?
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:18:29
I can't seem to click on the banner or find the keyboard on CandyKeys? Anyone has a link to the buy?
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:22:13
https://www.candykeys.com/?s=Southpaw
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:23:06
I can't even seem to search it
https://www.candykeys.com/?s=Southpaw
Forgot to mention, but it hasn't be published yet. Should be done soon.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:27:34
I see :)I can't even seem to search it
https://www.candykeys.com/?s=Southpaw
Forgot to mention, but it hasn't be published yet. Should be done soon.
Thank you so much for getting an EU proxy <3
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 02:30:35
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 03:06:32
For the "GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case" I only need a pcb as minimum?
Yeah, PCB and integrated case.
To complete the board, you would then need stabilizers, switches, and keycaps.
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 04:00:15
For the "GB - Southpaw Extended 65% - Integrated Case" I only need a pcb as minimum?
Yeah, PCB and integrated case.
To complete the board, you would then need stabilizers, switches, and keycaps.
Thanks.
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 04:18:18
North America: www.switchplate.co
EU: www.candykeys.com
Please add this to OP :)
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 05:05:31
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Aluminum CNC Case
PCB
Aluminum CNC Case
Plate (optional, but highly recommended)
Stainless Steel Bent Plate
PCB
Bent Plate
Stainless Steel Integrated Plate
PCB
Integrated Case
Post by: a_ak57 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 09:10:12
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 09:29:10
A bit disappointed that the blue and grey for the cases are so light, but excited this is finally happening nonetheless so I'm in for all black. Also dumb question, but when you say the plate is optional but highly recommended, is that just for protecting the PCB or does it have another effect?It provides stability for the whole thing og protects the switches soldering from loosening up over time. I have a board with out switch plate and it works fine but top plate feels more stable.
Post by: sncbraxsc2 on Tue, 31 October 2017, 10:36:01
Post by: GreyAmbience on Tue, 31 October 2017, 15:36:45
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 19:45:41
When will the EU proxy start?
There's a holiday in Germany right now and it seems that everyone is off work till thursday, so expect it to be open sometime around then. I'll be updating it here and on reddit, as well as on the project page on switchplate.co .
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:03:37
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:18:54
AU and NZ please?
AU and NZ will most likely be run through KP on taobao. I'll put a link up when they have the page finished.
Post by: KeLorean on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:51:45
Post by: reconsiderit on Tue, 31 October 2017, 20:54:22
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92344.0