Opinion about a New model m

[Giorgio]

Would  you  buy  this ibm  keyboard, or  is  it  considered  inferior because  it has bene made  by  Lexmark?
They  seem similar  except for the layout, and for small esthetic differences  like  the IBM  logo...

http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1392015
http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/product/1369294

What  adapter  would  you  use  to  connect  it  to  a USB port?

Thanks  in  advance.

[fohat.digs]

Many people would consider a 1993 Lexmark-made Model M to be more desirable than a contemporary Unicomp Model M.

Bought new, presumably with a full warranty, it is hard to go wrong, although you could probably buy a used IBM-made Model M for 1/2-2/3 that price.

[Giorgio]

Many people would consider a 1993 Lexmark-made Model M to be more desirable than a contemporary Unicomp Model M.

Bought new, presumably with a full warranty, it is hard to go wrong, although you could probably buy a used IBM-made Model M for 1/2-2/3 that price.

Thanks, now I'll look for a cable.

[dgneo]

Many people would consider a 1993 Lexmark-made Model M to be more desirable than a contemporary Unicomp Model M.

Bought new, presumably with a full warranty, it is hard to go wrong, although you could probably buy a used IBM-made Model M for 1/2-2/3 that price.

Thanks, now I'll look for a cable.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-to-SDL-6-Pin-6ft-IBM-Lexmark-Unicomp-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-Cable-NEW-/271367683396

It won't be quite as nice as the OEM IBM Cables, but still works like a charm

[chyros]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

[Giorgio]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

[chyros]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

[Giorgio]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too. 

[chyros]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too.

Trivial isn't the word I'd use xD .

[Giorgio]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too.

Trivial isn't the word I'd use xD .

I've seen a thread on deskthority about it, they had the 3d file. I'm sorry but I didn't save the thread since I'm not subscribed to the site, anyway it was the project about replacing the model m internals (not the one about the model f).

[chyros]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too.

Trivial isn't the word I'd use xD .

I've seen a thread on deskthority about it, they had the 3d file. I'm sorry but I didn't save the thread since I'm not subscribed to the site, anyway it was the project about replacing the model m internals (not the one about the model f).

Unicomp would need to have completely different moulds machined for the sliders, retool their keycap machine, get a completely different dyesub machine.... It would probably easier for them to make SSKs .

Moreover, why would you want MX caps? What's wrong with the massive PBT dyesubs on Ms?

[fanpeople]

It would probably easier for them to make SSKs .

Oi, some of us still have stong feelings about...

Never forget.

[invariance]

That was cruel 

[Giorgio]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too.

Trivial isn't the word I'd use xD .

I've seen a thread on deskthority about it, they had the 3d file. I'm sorry but I didn't save the thread since I'm not subscribed to the site, anyway it was the project about replacing the model m internals (not the one about the model f).

Unicomp would need to have completely different moulds machined for the sliders, retool their keycap machine, get a completely different dyesub machine.... It would probably easier for them to make SSKs .

Moreover, why would you want MX caps? What's wrong with the massive PBT dyesubs on Ms?

One standard to rule them all.





https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/remodeling-the-model-m-t13796.html

[chyros]

Basically, the older, the better.

IBM > Lexmark > Unicomp

So sad that things get worse and cheaper at each new iteration. Now at least there's the model f project, and another project, currently on hiatus, that will transform the model m into a model f.

I was linked to an interesting comment on Reddit recently where someone assumed the Model F was not NKRO but 2KRO because "even" the Model M had 2KRO. I was so surprised to see a comment from someone who had assumed that keyboards would be getting BETTER over time rather than worse. Quite an interesting expectation.

I wonder why it's taking so long to do Mx mount stems for buckling spring keyboards. It should be trivial. And about silencing them, at least for the spring impacting the stem, that should be easy too.

Trivial isn't the word I'd use xD .

I've seen a thread on deskthority about it, they had the 3d file. I'm sorry but I didn't save the thread since I'm not subscribed to the site, anyway it was the project about replacing the model m internals (not the one about the model f).

Unicomp would need to have completely different moulds machined for the sliders, retool their keycap machine, get a completely different dyesub machine.... It would probably easier for them to make SSKs .

Moreover, why would you want MX caps? What's wrong with the massive PBT dyesubs on Ms?

One standard to rule them all.

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https://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/remodeling-the-model-m-t13796.html

That's just stupid. How would you use Cherry caps on that? You'd get double-profile caps .

[Kavik]

I bought a new old stock ANSI Model M (1995 manufactured) from Unicomp last year. Beware that they will ship it to you in its original box with no extra padding, so it will likely break rivets in transportation. Expect to do a bolt mod when you get it.

I have two 1989 Model Ms, and the 1995 specimen was definitely inferior. I ended up partially bolt modding it and giving it to my brother. Something about the click of the springs just didn't feel as strong or full as the 1989s. Not really sure how to describe it; it just felt cheaper.

I'm not sure how it would compare to a new Unicomp board. I've typed on two of them: one was absolute garbage, and the other one is pretty decent. I will say that the new old stock Model M will have a sturdier case. The Unicomp cases flip and flop because they have no rigidity.

My two cents.

[Giorgio]

I bought a new old stock ANSI Model M (1995 manufactured) from Unicomp last year. Beware that they will ship it to you in its original box with no extra padding, so it will likely break rivets in transportation. Expect to do a bolt mod when you get it.

I have two 1989 Model Ms, and the 1995 specimen was definitely inferior. I ended up partially bolt modding it and giving it to my brother. Something about the click of the springs just didn't feel as strong or full as the 1989s. Not really sure how to describe it; it just felt cheaper.

I'm not sure how it would compare to a new Unicomp board. I've typed on two of them: one was absolute garbage, and the other one is pretty decent. I will say that the new old stock Model M will have a sturdier case. The Unicomp cases flip and flop because they have no rigidity.

My two cents.

Thank you very much, I appreciate your considerations. If I buy it from them, I'll surely ask them to pack it better.

[fohat.digs]

I have a Unicomp from about 2001-2003 that is a very nice, solid, well-built keyboard.

The only really bad Model Ms that I have ever gotten were late-1990s Greenock 42* specimens.