[IC] VE.A

[romevi]

Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

[krisst]

Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

[roostrc0gburn]

Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

i thought zeal abandoned the project because gateron said it was not possible... i dont remember the exact explanation, but i think it had to do with the type of plastic they used for clear switch housings would not work for stabilizers or something

[Data]

Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

Thanks for the link.  Gonna try to order some.

[krisst]

Found these on Taobao. Looks like they will match Zealios perfectly. Might have to get gold-plated bars too.

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Aren't those the knock-off Zealios?

Knock off? Have Zealios version came out yet? I am looking for the ic thread now

Oh, never mind. I totally did not realize those are stabilizers. Those are really cool. Do you have a link?

Link to? Zeal replied on MD about his up coming clear cherry stabilizer with gold plated stabs, thread on GH is here. https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=78155.0

Taobao link is https://world.taobao.com/item/531797261669.htm

Thanks for the link.  Gonna try to order some.

Sure. I bought some to check them out too. Also ordered some gold-plated slabs. https://world.taobao.com/item/523044562115.htm

[zefyr]

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

[FoC_Tow]

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

[Saiph]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

[greycap128]

I don't recall seeing any mention of the type of resistor to use if in-key leds were to be used.  Are they through-hole or surface mount?  I'm guessing the latter.

[FoC_Tow]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.

I don't recall seeing any mention of the type of resistor to use if in-key leds were to be used.  Are they through-hole or surface mount?  I'm guessing the latter.

The PCB looks like surface mount only to me.
Surface mount looks a lot cleaner anyway tho! =)

[alienman82]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

[Saiph]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.

Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

[FoC_Tow]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.

Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

[zefyr]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.

Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

I will.

[Data]

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

Wow.  I am constantly impressed by your diligence and perseverance.  Bravo.

[Saiph]

I will.

Awesome! Thanks!

[FoC_Tow]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Plate looks like it will be required.
It has mounting points to the case, so I doubt the pcb will directly mount to the case. Especially since the inner shell is made from polycarbonate.

Hmm, wonder if I can get an aluminum plate made somewhere.

You definitely could, laser cutting shouldn't be too expensive.
Some people have already announced interest in aluminum plates, so maybe we could arrange to have some plates made together.

I don't mind the stainless tbh, but I might be in for an aluminum plate set aswell.
Maybe zefyr would even supply the files if we ask kindly. =D

I will.

Your the best zefyr! <3
Can't thank you enough brother-brother.

[zefyr]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

VE.A needs plate. it's by design.

[alienman82]

Would I run into any issues with putting the board together plateless? I'm asking because I had a board previously that wouldn't come together without the plate.

Alps need a plate.  Cherry it's optional for switch, but this board probably needs the plate to work

VE.A needs plate. it's by design.

Interesting.  Probably will use steel and black switch though

[TerryMathews]

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

I don't want to put words into Zefyr's mouth, but it read to me like he's still trying to get it done in time for the Massdrop.

[mason]

If anyone is willing to let me hop onto their order please pm me!

[ccc24]

Announcement from oddforge

Improved PCB debugging was successful.
I produced another sample PCB (with express service... which is waaaaaaaaaay pricey... 150USD for 3 PCBs hahaha...)
Here's today's status.
Me and my partner has assembled two Kits
ANSI layout with default VE.A layout, and ISO layout with swapped left Space/FN.
Which means, Vergo type.T-II PCB (VE.A's PCB) now supports
- ISO(short left shift, vertical enter) layout.
- swappable left space/fn layout.

Everything is in function for now.
We have to do long stability test. (It's day one)
As mentioned, time is very short for enough test before GB ends.
So, here's deal.
We will do heavy stability test as possible as we can.
And we will announce once more in two days.

Awesome zefyr!
Thx Soo much for all the effort you put in to this!

So chances are we might be able to get the update pcb after the gb?

It would make the decision that much easy for me tbh. =)

I don't want to put words into Zefyr's mouth, but it read to me like he's still trying to get it done in time for the Massdrop.

ya sounds like hes trying to get the two layouts into the massdrop buy. Still holding off because I do plan on buying an extra PCB just waiting to hear if I should it purchase the extra pcb through massdrop or if zefyr is selling it separately. 

[zefyr]

OP updated

Video review added

[KetchyKech]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

[roostrc0gburn]

is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

[zefyr]

is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

Darkgray is on Massdrop description.
Bare steel plate is pretty general, it's glare, silver, steel plate

You can see difference on oddforge website
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly


Photo on assembly guide is Darkgray.
Thanks.

[roostrc0gburn]

is there a picture anywhere of a dark grey case with a bare steel plate? i think all the ones on massdrop have black plates

Darkgray is on Massdrop description.
Bare steel plate is pretty general, it's glare, silver, steel plate

You can see difference on oddforge website
http://oddforge.com/product/vea_assembly


Photo on assembly guide is Darkgray.
Thanks.

thanks! that looks beautiful

[zefyr]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)

[alienman82]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)

Can I get a time machine?  I want my kit today -.-;;; thanks so much for designing this!!

[chuckdee]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Yeh... I saw that too. Probably he is not familiar with custom keyboard kit
And producing cost of CNC (especially it's made in Korea)

I couldn't let that one go, and had to respond.  I'm stupid that way, but it was just really unfair.

[E3E]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Call me single-minded, but my only concern was if he got to keep it for free. And by free, I mean just from doing a review on it.

Say it isn't so.

[hoggy]

Finally got around to ordering. 

Zefyr - you've done a fantastic job!

[ipreferpie]

Thanks for the constant updates, Zefyr! I'm sure it'll be an amazing board with all the care you're putting in. And I just have some questions on the ALPS plate that you're planning. Can it allow for MX stabilzers in conjuction with ALPS switches? I'm planning on using ALPS to MX  adapters so having either Costar or Cherry MX stabilzers would be a great combo


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[Data]

Lol!! Never thought i'd see a korean custom on randomfrankp's channel!! I'm happy for it though~ but these youtube comments are killing me...

"What a marketing scam. At most this would cost $150-250. Its just one keyboard split in half."  )

Guess thats youtube for ya ~

Was an awesome up close look at the keyboard though! Thank you!

Call me single-minded, but my only concern was if he got to keep it for free. And by free, I mean just from doing a review on it.

Say it isn't so.

Pretty sure that's the Massdrop production sample.  They sent it out last week so it could be reviewed.

[TerryMathews]

I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else is interested in putting one of the more recent popular cap sets on this once it arrives.

The left space key is 2u, the right space key is 2.75u according to the key layout posted by MassDrop. PMK has 2u and 2.75u blanks in stock.

GKK is the light color grey that matches the alphas on Granite and Quartz. GEC is the dark colored grey that matches the space bar of Quartz. Both are currently in stock in the needed sizes. GDE is the dark color on Granite, but it's only in stock on one of the two blanks (Don't recall which).

I really wanted the blue from Quartz (BFV) but the didn't have it in stock. Sad face.

[krisst]

I'm just throwing this out there in case anyone else is interested in putting one of the more recent popular cap sets on this once it arrives.

The left space key is 2u, the right space key is 2.75u according to the key layout posted by MassDrop. PMK has 2u and 2.75u blanks in stock.

GKK is the light color grey that matches the alphas on Granite and Quartz. GEC is the dark colored grey that matches the space bar of Quartz. Both are currently in stock in the needed sizes. GDE is the dark color on Granite, but it's only in stock on one of the two blanks (Don't recall which).

I really wanted the blue from Quartz (BFV) but the didn't have it in stock. Sad face.

Thank you. Too bad PMK do no stock 2.75u SA blanks, unless I missed it. Been thinking on what keycaps to use, hope future keycaps set add those spacebars into kits.

[TerryMathews]

More importantly, it looks like all of the row 3 blanks are out of stock. I'm hoping there will be some after PuLSE ships. Might be wishful thinking.

[zefyr]

Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey

[FoC_Tow]

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

[zefyr]

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

[FoC_Tow]

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

Amazing!
Youre da man zefyr!

Thx so much for everything you did to make this happen in time!

[alienman82]

Very nice silver

[Data]

Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey

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[Floody]

I thought that whole thing was white for a second

[Vypr]

Announcement from oddforge

Stability test was successful for two days.
(I'm writing this with ISO + Space/FN Swapped version of VE.A)
Still there is some chance for failure cause short test period.

And you probably knows already.
If you use VE.A with full LED on, plugged non-powered USB hub can cause malfunction.
LED's Power consumption is very high.

OK, I think this is the time for your final decision.
I'm 99% sure this PCB is stable. Even if this fails, I think I can fix it.
So, improved PCB will be included in Massdrop GB (99% sure)

Thank you for waiting. It was a long journey

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This is amazing, thank you for all your hard work zefyr  :thumb:

[soilheart]

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?

[zefyr]

Woah, so Iso and Space/Fn swap will actually be included on massdrop boards now? Ö_Ö

Yes it is.

But I guess plate is still ANSI only, or universal?

Of course, UNIVERSAL for EVERY supported layouts.

[krisst]

Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

[zefyr]

Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

3-Locks LED resistors will be pre-soldered. but LED itself will no be included.
18 RGB LEDs will be pre-soldered. you don't have to do anything for RGB LEDs it's all-set.
And for in-switch resistors.
Our plan was no-resistors for in-switch LEDs.
It's because somebody might want to customize several sorts of LEDs and resistors.
Then we checked about it with some friends and find out almost everyone prefer pre-soldered resistors than customizing.
So, we already checking stability for that.
Now, our testing sample uses 910 ohm resistors for every LEDs, with red LED(which consume high power).
If this is stable enough, we will check cost for in-switch LED pre-soldering. If cost matches our price goal resistors will be pre-soldered also.

[krisst]

Since the MD groupbuy is ending soon. Would like to understand a few more things.

The SMD rgb led comes with the board. No sure if numlock, scroll lock and capslock LEDs and resistors comes with the drop too.

I would also like to know if we will need to get additional resistors for in-switch LEDs. If so, what type and resistance to get for white 1.8mm 3v LEDs.

Thanks!

3-Locks LED resistors will be pre-soldered. but LED itself will no be included.
18 RGB LEDs will be pre-soldered. you don't have to do anything for RGB LEDs it's all-set.
And for in-switch resistors.
Our plan was no-resistors for in-switch LEDs.
It's because somebody might want to customize several sorts of LEDs and resistors.
Then we checked about it with some friends and find out almost everyone prefer pre-soldered resistors than customizing.
So, we already checking stability for that.
Now, our testing sample uses 910 ohm resistors for every LEDs, with red LED(which consume high power).
If this is stable enough, we will check cost for in-switch LED pre-soldering. If cost matches our price goal resistors will be pre-soldered also.

Okay. Thank you so much for the update.

Please update us if there are any additional info or changes in the future. Thank you!