Lube Kit (OG x GH)

[SpAmRaY]

FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

Could someone illustrate this point??

[dustinhxc]

FOR MX SWITCHES:

i would not lube where the spring touches the cap of the stem. there is no wear there. the spring also does not touch the stem in a typical actuation, i wouldn't bother with that either. in fact, the only place i recommend lub is the either the slider or the housing side of the points at which the slider touches the housing. for linear switches, i recommend lubricating the front of the slider as well, the tendrils that actuate the gold crosspoints (they are lubed from the factory but with a silicone lube that just does not last long enough or provide the lubridicity for really smooth actuation), and the arc-face of a linear switch. i do not recommend lube anywhere else in an MX switch.

FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

there is one more place to lube a topre switch, but it must be done BEFORE the previous step. using a very thin lube and a small gauge needle, insert several drops into the slider. the goal is to get the lube to migrate to the PCB and elastomers. the reason to do this is to increase the seal between the elastomer bottom faces and the PCB. in my testing i've seen a slight difference between the elastomer membrane of a 55g topre switch and an unlubricated elastomer. it's very slight, but the tactile bump gets a little bit of a boost from the improved seal between the elastomer edges and the pcb.

the sliders make the most dramatic difference in a topre switch. for those, only thick formula makes any difference at all, and again, it increases the force required to actuate the switch but makes that force curve smoother. if you don't want that, don't lube your topre switches. i haven't found any other way to affect the action of a topre switch with lubricant.

Thank you for the informative post!

[mkawa]

FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

Could someone illustrate this point??

[SpAmRaY]

FOR TOPRE SWITCHES:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

Could someone illustrate this point??

:facepalm:

I meant this part

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces

[frvrngn]

Found this with photos for Topre - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49741.0

[SpAmRaY]

Found this with photos for Topre - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49741.0

Is that what mkawa means?? That's showing just lubing the sides, which is what I did, but with thick lube because that's what was recommended at the time but now it seems like maybe thing is?? I'm so confused.

[keymaster]

Found this with photos for Topre - http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=49741.0

^This is the only place I lubed. I'm also confused about this lubing a circle around the slider.

[frvrngn]

Lets wait for him, that was the only guide I could find and it does sound like mkawa lubes more than just that area.  I cant imagine a smoother Topre but I may have to try this out!

[mkawa]

oooh! that's simpler. sec.

[dustinhxc]

Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choice

[CPTBadAss]

GEEKHACK IS ABOUT UNDERSTANDING SCIENCE DAMNIT.

oooh! that's simpler. sec.

I would like to know how scientific a measurement "a scosh" is Ming . Glad you're sharing the secrets of Topre lubing hehe.

[SpAmRaY]

oooh! that's simpler. sec.

Ok so your basically saying the lube needs to go between the round shaft and the switch housing right?

I believe realforce may come lubed like that on some keys...make sense now.

[keymaster]

Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choice

That's only one part of his lubing process. Apparently, it's supposed to be done after this step:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

[Dubsgalore]

I think i'll be getting a kit when i order some more springs, I like how it's premixed already

let's just hope the packing is a little less sloppy as well, my beta package wasn't the cleanest one

[dorkvader]

I need to get some thick to lube my alphameric. I think the mineral oil I used a while ago has probably worn off.

[SpAmRaY]

I think i'll be getting a kit when i order some more springs, I like how it's premixed already

let's just hope the packing is a little less sloppy as well, my beta package wasn't the cleanest one

These baby's are vacuum sealed!

Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choice

That's only one part of his lubing process. Apparently, it's supposed to be done after this step:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

^^ That is what he is illustrating....I thought....

[jefferai]

Any idea when the thick kit will be back in stock?

(And the 62g limited springs? 

[HPE1000]

Any idea when the thick kit will be back in stock?

(And the 62g limited springs? 

Hopefully soon, I have a board I am putting together soon that is going to need the thick lube and 67g springs(which are still in stock but I am scared they might sell out by the time thick is back in stock) 

[jefferai]

Any idea when the thick kit will be back in stock?

(And the 62g limited springs? 

Hopefully soon, I have a board I am putting together soon that is going to need the thick lube and 67g springs(which are still in stock but I am scared they might sell out by the time thick is back in stock) 

Yeah, I was stupid and didn't place my order, and by the time I went back both the 62g limited and thick lube were our of stock.

[mkawa]

originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday

[Signature]

originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday

Ty for the update!

[Pacifist]

I may have to buy more lube, I think I'm overdoing it. Perfect opportunity

[dorkvader]

Will have to pick up some thick sometime, so I can lube my alphameric.

[pichu23]

originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday

What bout 62g limited springs ? Sorry if this is out of topic.
I'd like to bundle together with the thick lube.

[mkawa]

Hmm mkawas way I wouldn't have to take the keyboard . Tough choice

That's only one part of his lubing process. Apparently, it's supposed to be done after this step:

for a topre spring, you want to lube in a circle around the slider. use a very thick lube (the thick formula works reasonably well). the idea is to attempt to fill the gaps between the slider faces. this will _increase_ the resistance of the slider, but decrease the noise in that resistance w/rt to displacement. it will feel stiffer but smoother.

no, i think there's something misunderstanding here. i would generally do a one step lubing on a 55g topre switch. i would just lube the slider as illustrated and then stop. if you have lighter switches, you FIRST want to get a bit of THIN lube onto the elastomer under the slider. it's a huge pita and i don't think there's really enough tactile difference to make it worth it, but it does feel a bit better for what it's worth. THEN you lube the slider as it was lubed from the factory (circle around the slider). always do that last.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=skosh&defid=568284

a skosh is to be taken as less than measurement tolerance.

[jefferai]

originative will have thick kits in stock late monday. they were shipped saturday

What bout 62g limited springs ? Sorry if this is out of topic.
I'd like to bundle together with the thick lube.

I want that exact set too :-)

[dustinhxc]

I hope you get more thick soon! 

[riotonthebay]

I hope you get more thick soon! 

+1. I've bought some 205 in the meantime, but I'm rather just buy from Originative .

[pichu23]

@Sherry. Any updates on this ?

What bout 62g limited springs ? Sorry if this is out of topic.
I'd like to bundle together with the thick lube.

[sherryton]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

[SpAmRaY]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

I'm subscribed but got no email

[sherryton]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

I'm subscribed but got no email

Odd... I'll go see what is wrong.

[pichu23]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

Any ETA for 62g limited spring ?

[Jrwestcoast]

I'm subscribed also but got no email

[Signature]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

Any ETA for 62g limited spring ?

He told me via Pm that they will not restock them

[Pacifist]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

[SpAmRaY]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

[Pacifist]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

well I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........

descicions descisions desccisons

[SpAmRaY]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

well I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........

descicions descisions desccisons

I've put the note about  the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing...

[Pacifist]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

well I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........

descicions descisions desccisons

I've put the note about  the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing...

the one time I bought stuff from sherry(lube, springs, puller) I forgot to put the GH key note but I did get a hand written thank you note....

[SpAmRaY]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

well I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........

descicions descisions desccisons

I've put the note about  the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing...

the one time I bought stuff from sherry(lube, springs, puller) I forgot to put the GH key note but I did get a hand written thank you note....

what the crap.....I've bought all sorts of stuff I never got a note!! and I've put comments in the comment box every time

[HPE1000]

What GH Key???

[Pacifist]

never ever? 65 g better not sell out, I'm thinking of shifting to something heavier in the far future

better get em while they are hot

well I do need more lube...and I forgot to get a GH key last time...........

descicions descisions desccisons

I've put the note about  the geekhack key a few different orders now and nothing...

the one time I bought stuff from sherry(lube, springs, puller) I forgot to put the GH key note but I did get a hand written thank you note....

what the crap.....I've bought all sorts of stuff I never got a note!! and I've put comments in the comment box every time

It might have been because I spammed sherry about lube for 2 weeks before the lube was released, or sherry was feeling merry. Anyways I still have the note 

[Grendel]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

I'm subscribed but got no email

Ditto.

[pasph]

62g Limited is OOS.

Subscribers got an e-mail last night, but we restocked on the thick stuff 

I'm subscribed but got no email

Ditto.

this

[dustinhxc]

Will you be getting thick soon? Thanks!

[CPTBadAss]

Will you be getting thick soon? Thanks!

That's rude. It's not polite to imply that Sherry is getting fat.

[dustinhxc]

Will you be getting thick soon? Thanks!

That's rude. It's not polite to imply that Sherry is getting fat.

 

[dustinhxc]

When will more thick be in stock pleasssse? 

[mkawa]

i am packing them up today and will run them by originative most likely on monday.

i am very aware of how long people have been waiting and have a special (DOMOOOOO) present for everyone that i will include in the kits