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Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: ch_123 on Thu, 17 September 2009, 16:13:50
Here's a random one for you all -

(http://www.wired.com/images/article/full/2008/04/ibm_360_500px.jpg)

In my college, there's a display with the front panel of one of those units in it. A bunch of us were wondering what the red button did on it, so far I have found two closely-related explanations -

a) Pulling the button would drive a large plastic spike through the mainframe's main power line.
b) There was a guillotine over the power cable that chopped the line in two upon someone activating the switch.

I know there's a bunch of people around here who worked with IBM mainframes back in the day. Anyone know for definite what it did? Anyone ever have to use it?
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: timw4mail on Thu, 17 September 2009, 17:12:00
It must be some cold war era device, If all 20 were hit, a nuke would launch.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Rajagra on Thu, 17 September 2009, 17:19:44
Quote from: ch_123;118863
Anyone know for definite what it did?


I'm willing to bet that pushing it out of curiosity got you fired.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Shawn Stanford on Thu, 17 September 2009, 19:42:51
It was an emergency power off button, I couldn't say what the exact mechanism was but I doubt it was as permanent as physically cutting a line. I once broke one off a Series/1 by bumping into it sideways.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: wellington1869 on Thu, 17 September 2009, 19:56:16
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Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Mr.6502 on Thu, 17 September 2009, 21:58:48
Since that's a system 360, that would be the Red Plunger of Death.  If it popped out you had to mail the mainframe back to IBM and wait for a refurb to be mailed back to you.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: rdh on Thu, 17 September 2009, 23:38:41
I was working at my college's computer center when they retired their IBM 360 clone, and managed to get the Big Red Switch as a souvenir:



It uses a simple springy piece of metal to prevent the switch from being reset once it's been pulled:



Perhaps real IBMs had the explosive bolts and guillotines, I don't know.

Our clone was made by Itel, who sold their mainframe division to National Semiconductor, who eventually sold it to Hitachi (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitachi_Data_Systems).
The fun thing about this is that they actually sent someone in to put new name badges on the machine when the division changed hands.  

The black thing behind the switch is the National Advanced Systems name plate:


(Model M provided for scale.)  

Well, when I say plate, I mean really it is half an inch thick.  That's right: the big iron had a five-pound chunk of anodized aluminum just for the name badge.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Hak Foo on Fri, 18 September 2009, 00:38:23
WANT.

I saw a guy once with a whole collection of 360 and 370 badges and nameplates.  How I longed for one to hang on my wall.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: AndrewZorn on Fri, 18 September 2009, 01:35:31
http://jollycandylikebutton.ytmnd.com/

or

(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3006/redbtn1.jpg)
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: lowpoly on Fri, 18 September 2009, 03:15:31
I would like to bolt that front panel to my fridge.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: itlnstln on Fri, 18 September 2009, 08:04:00
Quote from: AndrewZorn;118959
http://jollycandylikebutton.ytmnd.com/
 
or
 
Show Image
(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Theater/3006/redbtn1.jpg)

DAMN YOU!  I was going to post that.
 
I already have a couple of times, though.
 
Ren and Stimpy was my favorite cartoon ever.
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Rajagra on Fri, 18 September 2009, 09:59:30
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: erricrice on Mon, 21 September 2009, 14:30:55
Do Not press the red button

http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=9644
Title: What did the Big Red Button on IBM mainframes do?
Post by: Lenny_Nero on Wed, 23 September 2009, 07:40:56
The IBM's and Honeywells that my dad used to run it was answer A, the BRS was under the tachos that showed the running time, room temp, load ...that sort of thing.

It was more like a red handle that killed the main power feed in, there was not just one computer with a switch on it.

(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/958/mdsl7oaks001.th.png) (http://img12.imageshack.us/i/mdsl7oaks001.png/)