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Offline xsphat

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Giving the SMK88 another try
« on: Sun, 30 December 2007, 23:08:52 »
I am giving the black stemmed linear switches another day in court, as I mentioned I intended to do a couple weeks ago on some lost thread. I did say they were pretty crappy before but I am wondering if I gave them a fair shake. I'm still unsure, but I can see that Cherry switches  are actually quite different from my Alps, capacitives and buckling springs I have.

So I'm trying not to bottom out all the time and the switches feel pretty nice. I can't say for sure I like them yet, because they do hurt my arms after a bit, but I don't make many errors for getting used to a new 'board. Ultimately, I don't think this will be my perfect switch because I like to bottom out and be loud and the switches are too stiff for that to be anything but work.

I'll give this 'board a few more days and see if I get used to it. You see, if these switches grow on me, my options for keyboards open up significantly.

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« Reply #1 on: Mon, 31 December 2007, 00:24:31 »
I am back on an SMK-88 but this time with blue switches.  I know I am "wierd" in this group but I think I like black switches better.  A lot of force (by my standards) to actuate a key and this SMK is the new layout with eject-vol up-vol down-mute-Fn keys down the left side.  I think I home my left pinky to the left side of the keyboard and that extra row of keys throws me off.  I don't mind the noise as much as the layout and pressure required.

The good:  I am starting to get used to the layout and I konw I am bottoming the keys out far less than I would on black.  Giving it a few more days before I go back to the Matias Tactile Pro 2.  I've mentioned before that the amount of side to side play in the matias keys are a bit crazy, and speculated that it could be the lineage of the keyswitches (Alps derived).  By comparison, this SKM-88 is TIGHT.  almost no side-to-side on the keys at all.
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« Reply #2 on: Mon, 31 December 2007, 00:33:25 »
The blue cherries are my favorite keyswitches...but as I've mentioned before, the key layout and portability of the HHKB Pro trumps my keyswitch preference as the capacitive switches are still quite good.

I had an email conversation with the Das keyboard folks...proposing a Das III keyboard idea.  Going with a form factor and layout similar to the HHKB with the blue Cherries they currently use in the Das II.  They liked the idea...but I have no idea if they are tooled for such a thing.

If I was to create a keyboard to put out to the masses, that is exactly what I'd do.  The current Das II caters to the clicky and blank keytop fan...and the HHKB is a geek cult classic.  I think it would sell quite well.

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« Reply #3 on: Mon, 31 December 2007, 10:07:29 »
I am with ashort on this one, the layout of the SMK88 is great and the mac keys are nearly all there. But I also have to go with iMav about the HHKB - it has all the Mac keys including the power button, which is something the SMK88 lacks.

I want to try out some new Cherry switches after this, too bad none of them are made anymore :P

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« Reply #4 on: Mon, 31 December 2007, 10:09:48 »
If I want to try out the blues, I am stuck with either the M10 or Das II,or I could order that one from DataCal and hope Justin was right ....

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« Reply #5 on: Mon, 31 December 2007, 23:14:44 »
Quote from: xsphat;2198
If I want to try out the blues, I am stuck with either the M10 or Das II,or I could order that one from DataCal and hope Justin was right ....


Das II is a fine keyboard, but not a small one....
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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 01 January 2008, 00:58:28 »
I might consider picking up a DAS II, but I'm not sure on that one.

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 01 January 2008, 14:25:57 »
I don’t know about these Cherry linear switches. The keys are too heavy and don’t give the authoritative crack when I type each letter, and that is something I surely would miss. Even the Happy Hacking Keyboard Professional 2 gives me some satisfaction while being by far the quietest mechanical keyboard I own. So in the end, I still don’t like this key switch,
   But, the SMK 88 is a nice keyboard. The quality of mine is good, I like the button layout a lot, but I don’t like the Cherry linear switch, and that kills it for me.

   The SMK85 is still my favorite keyboard for writing. I stow it when I’m not doing anything serious and bust it out when the mood hits. The thing is it feels heavy and well-made. The sound of the clicks and the springs is unmatched even by the Model M, it takes less than half the pressure of the Cherrys to bottom out and it just feels like this is the way I’m supposed to write. This is just a really nice ‘board coupled with a great key switch.
   And the wobble in Alps switches you guys are talking about, I have a feeling that’s built into the switch intentionally. I have 3 Alps boards and all of them have it. I actually like it, but I’ve had Alps ‘boards from the start of this little keyboard adventure. I didn’t even notice it when you guys were talking about it at first because I’m so accustomed to it, but after my short stint on the Cherry blacks, I understand your point of view. The Cherry switches are even tighter than the HHKB’s.
   The only switch I even want to try right now is the clicky Cherry. I think I’ll like it.

   Can you hear the springs on the Cherry blues? I really like hearing them when I type.