[IC] GMK METROPOLIS 2 - Coming April 02 - 40% Update

[nephlock]

Welcome to Metro R2!

It's been long requested, and it's ABOUT DAMN TIME we did it already. Let's GO!

KITS!

same same, but different!
While this is most definitely a round two of this colorway, it doesn't come without some reductions (and ENHANCEMENTS!) of the kits you've come to know and love. I wanted to take a determined step towards evolving this set further, and offering more options to customize and truly make it your own. My hope is that in doing so there is plenty that is new for even those that got in on round 1.

I've done my best to outline the differences in kits below:



BASE
The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller, and it is with a heavy heart that I must bid it adieu and offer a paired down 'coverage' kit.

Other notable adjustments are a reworking of the modifier legends to be uniformly single-line. Minus the "Neph Lock" key, which is... precious to me.

R1 Extras: In round 1, we were able to add a small (but appreciated) extras kit into the main kit. Unfortunately this is not available this round, but most of the caps that were offered can be found in the subsequent kits below




BLOCKS
Fairly straightforward but with some modernization! Two 3.00 spacebars have been added, and the 1.75 and 1.50 R4 blanks have been removed. 6.00 off center spacebar has also been removed.



SIGNS
The first of the big adjustments! In R1, the signs served dual purpose as novelties for both the standard kit AND the midnight kit. This left it sort of jumbled, and in an awkward spot. Because the kits have all been reworked, we can have the Signs kit stand proud as the icon accent pack it should have always been. You'll also notice some new faces in here!

This kit is meant to accent certain keys on different layouts, and in fitting with the accents in the base, was never intended to provide direct symmetry. With the update, this kit pairs exceptionally well with the signs pack from round 1



COMPACT
We talked about it in R1, I should have done it in R1, I didn't do it in R1, and it could have made it in R1... I'm sorry R1... But HEY! 40's and compact layout kit is HERE!

Had the great pleasure to step into the 40% discord to bring this kit up to this point.

This should hopefully be an answer to a lot of the feedback that has been posted here, and falls within the same cap count as what was provided previously.

My hope is that this kit redeems this set for those that felt put off by the original one, as well as makes strides to change 40s kits to be more in line with what those users actually use.

OLD KIT

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TURNPIKE
It wouldn't be metro without a modifier kit! Many MANY of you wanted to see Metro realized as a full custom icon-mod set, and now you can! While this is not exhaustive, this kit provides the coverage needed to give most standard layouts the glow up they deserve.



MIDNIGHT
Midnight, you are not forgotten! A precious few were able to experience this colorway due to the modifier add-on kit required, and I received LOTS of feedback on it. Available now as a standalone kit, this reworked midnight offering brings in the mono novelties that cramped the R1 signs kit, and the accent arrows from the R1 extras.

All sounds a bit too good to be true doesn't it? And you'd be right... so much fun has to come at a cost.You'll have to give up your numpad to do it.


DESKMATS



STANDARD
If it aint broke don't fix it. Back again for all those that missed out!



MIDNIGHT
Pairing alongside the updated Midnight kit, the new Midnight deskmat!


RENDERS

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PHOTOS
This time around, we already did a round! This means you can easily see what this set looks like in physical form. I've attached a few photos below, but all you really have to do is browse on r/mk or instagram and you'll be able to see SO MANY of the great photos your fellow keyboardists have taken showing off every side of Metropolis.

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GROUP BUY DETAILS

Vendors
NA - NovelKeys
CA - Desk Hero
UK - proto[Typist]
EU - Oblotzky Industries
AUS - Daily Clack
Asia - zFrontier
Sea - Monokei.co

Dates
Mark your calendars! April 2–30, 2021

Pricing
TBD

Surprises?
On the way!

[nephlock]

reserved?

[DuellM]

Pure awesome
 


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[singabore]

esketit

[frostykoala]

ne f13 avail

[hali]

two r4 1u zero keys in base? enjoying the rerun though, glwic nonetheless

[FishyKeebs]

looking forward to it

[paulgali]

Yes! I have r1 and its my favorite set so far. It shined to hell in 2 weeks and i love it. Finally, novelties

[limeocean]

"Alright no more keycaps you've gotten enough" - this happens
Well count me in.

[MrMar]

I am also a R1 owner and plan on going in for this full tilt. so excited.

[darthcapn]

Oh hell yes! Gimme more

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[prizeS]

already have R1 but will be grabbing both compact and turnpike kits provided the kits stay the way they are more or less. lookin' good!

[KuroTheCrazy]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

[NovaRMK]

**** YEAH BABY

[paulgali]

Wait i cant get neph lock unless i get r2 base? Or 2nd b. Sadge

[3yatt]

Ooooooo yea

[iinko_mk]

pog

[asciisii]

The set that got me into the hobby is back! Definitely have to hop on, base kit inclusion of more accents and B is appreciated. Is there plans for a RAMA cap this time around?

[maceofspades]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

I second this.

[productkun]

The midnight kit would look great on a teal iron165!

[nvh2092]

I believe all kits were quoted, so adding a teal novelty iso enter is out of request, right?

[Kokaloo]

1.75u r2 backspace in the compact kit please!

[matthewdias]

Finally! Super excited for this to return and am stoked that there's a forties kit this time. Have some recommendations on that point:

- Please add R2 1.75u backspace and R3 1.5u return for minivan support (I'm assuming the enters already there are mislabeled and are really 1.75u) This is the most popular staggered 40% layout.
- Remove the 2u shift, this is not used on any 40s
- Consider adding support for ut.47/whimsy via R3 1.25u return

To get the kit back down to size after making these additions I would recommend
- Remove non-accent return keys, Control can be used instead to retain the non-accent color
- Change the second 1u shift legend to "Send" to act as a generic for either shift or non-accent return on ortho boards.

Additionally, it would be awesome to see basic 40s support added to the midnight kit! You would just need to add the 3 following keys to that kit.
- R2 1.75u backspace
- R3 1.25u tab
- R3 1.5u enter

Thanks for your consideration!

[mvkb]

Alright, *this* is the last GMK set I'll ever buy.

[nephlock]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

[Eddyhhh]

Oh my days...I came in to this hobby quite late so i missed this group buy a while ago and the midnight colourway was the first set that pretty much brought my interest into this hobby. So glad this is a thing again, definitely reserved.


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[dothedishesdude]

I'm so hyped for this I might buy 3 sets just to appease myself. WOOHOO!

[Karni]

R1 owner, favorite keyset ever. Would greatly appreciate it if there could be a few major 40s keys for the midnight version in the extension kit.

[KuroTheCrazy]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

I can definitely understand wanting to avoid support creep. If you want to thin out the 40s kit to fit in those two in order to support more boards, it might be worth dropping some of the accent keys (and the 2u shift that almost no 40s use).

[YoungTerror]

It's been amazing seeing some of these previously run sets making more rounds for people like me not in the hobby at the time. Interest checked and instant buy!

[directheatedtriode]

Also requesting Rama cap please 

[Upstart5]

Finally! Super excited for this to return and am stoked that there's a forties kit this time. Have some recommendations on that point:

- Please add R2 1.75u backspace and R3 1.5u return for minivan support (I'm assuming the enters already there are mislabeled and are really 1.75u) This is the most popular staggered 40% layout.
- Remove the 2u shift, this is not used on any 40s
- Consider adding support for ut.47/whimsy via R3 1.25u return and R4 1.5u shift

To get the kit back down to size after making these additions I would recommend
- Remove non-accent return keys, Control can be used instead to retain the non-accent color
- Change the second 1u shift legend to "Send" to act as a generic for either shift or non-accent return on ortho boards.

Additionally, it would be awesome to see basic 40s support added to the midnight kit! You would just need to add the 3 following keys to that kit.
- R2 1.75u backspace
- R3 1.25u tab
- R3 1.5u enter

Thanks for your consideration!

You hit the nail on the head here! For minivan support it really is two keys needing to be added (1.75u R2 backspace and 1.5u R3 enter) and the removal of the 2u shift, non accented enters, and consolidating a couple of keys MatthewDias recommends would mean the kit would stay around the same size as it is now. Hopefully that would mean not too much of a pricing change! One thing to consider as well is that TheKey.Company is planning to soon start selling in stock Minivan kits, so we will likely see a large influx of people trying the layout.

Excited for this set Nephlock! Hopefully we can see some further fleshing out of the 40s kitting to include Minivan support.

[foundpeasantry]

LETS GOOOOOOOO!!

Inject this into my veins. I ain't missing on the novelties like I did for R1. Imma buy everything this time

[Bregoli]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

+1 for the 1.75u backspace compat kit, its not "just a few more caps". Those are THE 2 (3 but you already have 1 of them) caps a 40s kit has to have.

[jamst149]

Ergodox?  Maybe 40's for midnight?

[NoPunIn10Did]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

If you're worried about the added cost of including R2 1.75u Backspace and R3 1.5u Enter, I'd suggest removing some of the accent copies from that kit as a compromise.  Those two keys are the most commonly used righthand mods for 40% staggered boards, currently.

Also, if you remove all the accented Return keys from that kit, I think it reduces the color count of the kit as well, which may additionally optimize the cost:value ratio of the kit.

[HappyB0T]

Interested. Midnight looks really really good. Nice changes to the kitting globally - I'm sure there will be individual requests for key and board support.

[Ciantha]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

I know other's have already responded to this but:

To support maximum 40s for minimum keys r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter and r3 1.25 tab is the way to go. There's recently been a push for base kit 40s and that's accomplished by adding these three keys.

The 1.75 enter that you already have, whilst nice, is nowhere near as essential since caps lock or control (same row and size) could be used in it's place.

[cadrev]

oh man, this was one of the set that got my attention when I first came into this hobby but sadly I came in a bit late. My wallet is gonna cry with striker and this but my heart is happy 

[KucherenkoZZZ]

Wallet has left the chat

[sneekypoo]

Ahhhhh I've been looking for a set for AGES!!! Thank you for bringing this back!

[T.Rex]

Oh boy, all board the hype train.

[Bub]

Surprises?
On the way!

Hmmm... 

Please consider F13 in base

[tominabox1]

1.75u r2 backspace and 1.5u r3 return in 40s?

[Tyson]

The full Midnight kit with the Midnight mat reminds me so much of Tron Legacy, I can't wait for the GB to start! I need this set!!!

[Owl]

YEEEEEEEES! Looking forward to getting the turnpike kit to compliment my R1 kits! STOKED!

[ImBakinBacon]

This is not meant as criticism but I was just curious what the reason/design decision was (if any) for the split mod style (red for bottom two rows and yellow for all the others). I really like the color scheme and overall feel of the design but that aspect felt a bit random to me. I know it's probably too late at this point since it's already R2 and it would add so many keycaps but personally I would love for the option to have either full yellow and full red mods, maybe even as an extension kit.

Either way I am excited for the Midnight set and I'll join for novelties as well so I can get those extra accent colors!

[lecorsair]

Yes! Thanks Nephlock for the amazing working.

[Adqam64]

The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller, and it is with a heavy heart that I must bid it adieu and offer a paired down 'coverage' kit.

Metropolis was probably the first keycap set I saw and wanted to buy, but unfortunately I joined the hobby too late.  Now it seems I will still not be buying it, as the lack of ISO-UK support kills the kit for me.  I understand that I am in a minority, and am glad this set is being run again and hope it is successful.  But it is disappointing to see a set that previously supported ISO-UK drop that support.

[nephlock]

This is not meant as criticism but I was just curious what the reason/design decision was (if any) for the split mod style (red for bottom two rows and yellow for all the others). I really like the color scheme and overall feel of the design but that aspect felt a bit random to me. I know it's probably too late at this point since it's already R2 and it would add so many keycaps but personally I would love for the option to have either full yellow and full red mods, maybe even as an extension kit.

Either way I am excited for the Midnight set and I'll join for novelties as well so I can get those extra accent colors!

Totally happy to answer this as many might not know. I wanted this set to break from the traditional "alphas one color, mods another" and feature a uniform base color. Which posed a bit of a problem when it came to incorporating the 3 legend colors i wanted. The early Symbolics keyboards featured split mod legends on the two bottom rows, and it felt like the perfect way to give a nod to those early keyboards, as well as further help this set come into its own.

[yukitoki]

teal gang where you at

[XiXora]

Sad to see UK ISO gone. I look forward to seeing the coverage kit.

Is there a chance to see 2x 1.5u Super/Code and 2x 1u Alt for those of non-Windows persuasion?

🙂

[Space_Case88]

I'm in for the Midnight kit. Please and thank you.

[Vigrith]

MIDNIGHT
Midnight, you are not forgotten! A precious few were able to experience this colorway due to the modifier add-on kit required, and I received LOTS of feedback on it. Available now as a standalone kit, this reworked midnight offering brings in the mono novelties that cramped the R1 signs kit, and the accent arrows from the R1 extras.

All sounds a bit too good to be true doesn't it? And you'd be right... so much fun has to come at a cost.You'll have to give up your numpad to do it.

Good ****. I remember asking you for this on KC at the very beginning and you were optimistic about offering it with R2 - glad to see you managed to make it happen. Appreciate it. Will be buying.

Best of luck!

[Retne]

I do wish this was running in a different profile but I will likely buy in once this goes live.  Metropolis is such an iconic set I feel like I have to pick it up even if GMK isn't my favorite.

[ImBakinBacon]

This is not meant as criticism but I was just curious what the reason/design decision was (if any) for the split mod style (red for bottom two rows and yellow for all the others). I really like the color scheme and overall feel of the design but that aspect felt a bit random to me. I know it's probably too late at this point since it's already R2 and it would add so many keycaps but personally I would love for the option to have either full yellow and full red mods, maybe even as an extension kit.

Either way I am excited for the Midnight set and I'll join for novelties as well so I can get those extra accent colors!

Totally happy to answer this as many might not know. I wanted this set to break from the traditional "alphas one color, mods another" and feature a uniform base color. Which posed a bit of a problem when it came to incorporating the 3 legend colors i wanted. The early Symbolics keyboards featured split mod legends on the two bottom rows, and it felt like the perfect way to give a nod to those early keyboards, as well as further help this set come into its own.

Thanks for the background!

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

I asked for neph lock caps lock about 2 years ago but I'll settle for r1 nov

Metal caps? Rama or otherwise?

[stealthymangos]

Can't wait for the Nephlock Rama keycap  . The original run was my first GB and I got extra cool keycaps? You have a fan for life. Can't wait for the next new keyboard set from you.

[nkd_oh]

Missed this set the first time, ain't missing it again!!

[kapowaz]

The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller

This feels like a self-fulfilling prophecy. Despite the hobby continuing to grow, it seems like fewer and fewer designers are willing to support ISO-UK, which further supports the position that it’s not worth supporting. Could you at least support it in a child kit?

[sup3r170va]

Nice set. I’m in. Is there a way to get the full turnpike mods in midnight?

[Ponker]

This is Poggers. Ponker bless.

[the_onlyhope]

My favorite set. Thank you for running this!

[LethalMcv]

The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller, and it is with a heavy heart that I must bid it adieu and offer a paired down 'coverage' kit.

Metropolis is my dream kit for the my teal iron165 so I'm saddened to hear r2 is not supporting all UK ISO.
I hope you get enough feedback to add the support even if we have to buy it additionally.

[sup3r170va]

Oh. Can u also consider adding an SEA vendor? Either ILumkb or Monokei. Thanks.

[Szei]

Been waiting for R2 for a long time! That said, I hate how useless the CAPSLOCK key is so I have it rebound to BACKSPACE.
I know it's a high ask to get an actual R3 1.75u Backspace to replace Capslock, but based on R1 Metropolis I thought I could at least replace Capslock with the yellow R3 1.75u Signs keycap. Unfortunately that keycap has been cut from R2...

Any chance we can get a 1.75u R3 keycap back in the Signs pack? I don't want to be stuck with a Capslock key

Everything else looks great!

[nkd_oh]

Will there be a coiled cable with this one like you did with r1???

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Been waiting for R2 for a long time! That said, I hate how useless the CAPSLOCK key is so I have it rebound to BACKSPACE.
I know it's a high ask to get an actual R3 1.75u Backspace to replace Capslock, but based on R1 Metropolis I thought I could at least replace Capslock with the yellow R3 1.75u Signs keycap. Unfortunately that keycap has been cut from R2...

Any chance we can get a 1.75u R3 keycap back in the Signs pack? I don't want to be stuck with a Capslock key

Everything else looks great!

I mean, if there's no Neph Lock caps lock key (mostly joking) I'd like to put a sign there too?

[paperassgasket]

Hey your "compact" kit is missing a few keys.
Also there's some **** in there that nobody really needs.

Row 2 1.75u backspace, row 3 1.5u Enter and row 3 1.25u Tab will get you the physical compat you need for most 40's.

[Chippy]

love that midnight kit...

[J_C___]

I need this so badly

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Hey your "compact" kit is missing a few keys.
Also there's some **** in there that nobody really needs.

Row 2 1.75u backspace, row 3 1.5u Enter and row 3 1.25u Tab will get you the physical compat you need for most 40's.

The keys you mention for physical compatibility even I as a non forties user know. Which ones would you cut?

[iinko_mk]

have you asked for quotes yet?

[Virex]

Oh. Can u also consider adding an SEA vendor? Either ILumkb or Monokei. Thanks.

I second this. SEA vendor please! Thanks in advance

[nasp]

Are the enters in the 40s kit supposed to be 1.5 or 1.75?

Assuming they're 1.75, please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

Thank you for the catch, yes the enters should be 1.75 and have been updated.
As for the other caps, 40s kits are always "just a few more caps" away from capability for something and at some point a line needs to be drawn. That said, if enough feedback presents itself to warrant the addition I'll consider it.

Speaking of trimming the fat, I suggest removing both r3 returns - accent and non - since that is not the default Planck layout. Also, you could easily remove the second r4 1u shift.


Thanks Nephlock! Nice renders too, esp. that expanded 65% 

[Stev!e]

yes, Yes, YES! I have waited a long time for this!

[falzm]

I'm in! This is the last "grail" level keycap set missing to my collection, can't wait to have it!

[luke2fr]

Really excited !
I wish there is more than one stepped caps lock. only choice is legends . No sign or novelties for it :/

[bball2]

I think the base kit looks pretty great! Definitely in for a base kit + spacebars

[sirieous]

Glad to see it back!

[KucherenkoZZZ]

Would be nice to see RA MA collab with this set

[mr_fro2000]

I agree w/ others about adding a 1.75 backspace and 1.50 enter in the Compact kit... gotta have that minivan compatibility!

On a side note, a bit disappointed that the Midnight set is a full different base kit... since i already have R1 (it's one of my favorite sets of all time!), I've been looking forward to picking up the midnight modifiers... now it looks like i need to buy an entire base kit =(

In any case, excited that you are running this set again!

[Rob27shred]

The midnight tho!

[arunto]

Glad to see a round 2.  100% joining

[nephlock]

Hey your "compact" kit is missing a few keys.
Also there's some **** in there that nobody really needs.

Row 2 1.75u backspace, row 3 1.5u Enter and row 3 1.25u Tab will get you the physical compat you need for most 40's.

1.75u r2 backspace and 1.5u r3 return in 40s?

To support maximum 40s for minimum keys r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter and r3 1.25 tab is the way to go. There's recently been a push for base kit 40s and that's accomplished by adding these three keys.

The 1.75 enter that you already have, whilst nice, is nowhere near as essential since caps lock or control (same row and size) could be used in it's place.

please add r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter.

I agree w/ others about adding a 1.75 backspace and 1.50 enter in the Compact kit... gotta have that minivan compatibility!

Dear Users,
This hobby and industry was born as a community centered around joining projects you believe in, and feel you have a part in. You have more than showed up on that first part, and definitely exercised your voice on the second. Now it's time for me to do my part... You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

I wont waste time with fancy renders, so look past the crude mockups to the gold at the end of the rainbow. This is still an interest check after all, right?

Consider me humbled, and stay tuned.
-Neph

[mr_fro2000]

Dear Users,
This hobby and industry was born as a community centered around joining projects you believe in, and feel you have a part in. You have more than showed up on that first part, and definitely exercised your voice on the second. Now it's time for me to do my part... You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

I wont waste time with fancy renders, so look past the crude mockups to the gold at the end of the rainbow. This is still an interest check after all, right?

Consider me humbled, and stay tuned.
-Neph

That's great to hear!  Glad you are willing to take another crack at it.  While I'm no expert, I do know that Ttom was in the 40s discord picking their brain about 40s compatibility for the upcoming GMK Fuji set... I think their convo resulted in changes to the set.  Maybe that might be worth your time as well.

[cadrev]

I failed to ask this on my previous comment but is there a chance that the yellow icon enter key will be included?

[bobgr8]

high MoQ low cost set please 

[v1ntage]

I might buy an GMK kit again for this

[Hell-es]

+1 for F13

Glad this had a comeback

[XiXora]

 I think I may have misread the base kit wrt ISO and "coverage" kit.

Do these ISO keys in base provide sort of provide a half-half of UK and US?
Perhaps a NorDeUK kit would suffice so we can have all the accents available too (missing yellow)?

[matthewdias]

Dear Users,
This hobby and industry was born as a community centered around joining projects you believe in, and feel you have a part in. You have more than showed up on that first part, and definitely exercised your voice on the second. Now it's time for me to do my part... You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

I wont waste time with fancy renders, so look past the crude mockups to the gold at the end of the rainbow. This is still an interest check after all, right?

Consider me humbled, and stay tuned.
-Neph

Glad to hear it! I realized I suggested an unnecessary key in my post on page 1, so have edited. But I think the feedback is solid now.

[hottrout]

I always loved these colours, I bought all the sets in the original run. I am sad to see UK ISO support go for those people that waited all this time for round 2. I also love the new midnight set and will buy that. Do you think you could offer UK ISO in a separate kit and do you think the new run will match the old sets colours?

[Zaprey]

while i love this colourway sadly i cannot consider it due to the lack of uk iso.

as UK iso is 4 keys is it possible to move accented arrows to an accent kit or just remove them entirely?

[misswaffle]

Loving the Midnight base kit and deskmat! I will definitely be purchasing them.

I'm glad to see you're taking feedback from the community and are planning to revise the compact kit accordingly.

[kapowaz]

You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

It’s great that you’re taking on feedback in this manner, but I have to ask: are 40% users such a significant portion of customers that this is worth doing, but supporting the 3 additional keys for ISO-UK isn’t?

[paperassgasket]

Dear Users,
This hobby and industry was born as a community centered around joining projects you believe in, and feel you have a part in. You have more than showed up on that first part, and definitely exercised your voice on the second. Now it's time for me to do my part... You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

I wont waste time with fancy renders, so look past the crude mockups to the gold at the end of the rainbow. This is still an interest check after all, right?

Consider me humbled, and stay tuned.
-Neph

This is great news and I'm very happy to hear that you are approaching this situation with such modesty and openness. I'm impressed.
Is there a particular discord that you would like to discuss kitting options in or would you prefer feedback right here in this thread?

[nephlock]

Had the great pleasure today to step into the 40% discord to bring this kit up to this point.

This should hopefully be an answer to a lot of the feedback that has been posted here, and falls within the same cap count as what was provided previously.

My hope is that this kit redeems this set for those that felt put off by the original one, as well as makes strides to change 40s kits to be more in line with what those users actually use.

[nasp]

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Had the great pleasure today to step into the 40% discord to bring this kit up to this point.

This should hopefully be an answer to a lot of the feedback that has been posted here, and falls within the same cap count as what was provided previously.

My hope is that this kit redeems this set for those that felt put off by the original one, as well as makes strides to change 40s kits to be more in line with what those users actually use.

Looks good. I only have one suggestion.

As an ortho user, I feel a bit left out without a 1u enter accent. However, I would put it in the place of the default Planck layout, which is r4.

i.e. please remove the non-accent r4 'Send' and replace it with an accented version.  :thumb:

[Swishy]

You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

It’s great that you’re taking on feedback in this manner, but I have to ask: are 40% users such a significant portion of customers that this is worth doing, but supporting the 3 additional keys for ISO-UK isn’t?

ok, for this iso gets coverage in general physically unless this kit is made there are very many 40s boards that literally can't have the proper physical coverage.

Hey your "compact" kit is missing a few keys.
Also there's some **** in there that nobody really needs.

Row 2 1.75u backspace, row 3 1.5u Enter and row 3 1.25u Tab will get you the physical compat you need for most 40's.

To support maximum 40s for minimum keys r2 1.75u backspace and r3 1.5u enter and r3 1.25 tab is the way to go. There's recently been a push for base kit 40s and that's accomplished by adding these three keys.

The 1.75 enter that you already have, whilst nice, is nowhere near as essential since caps lock or control (same row and size) could be used in it's place.

Dear Users,
This hobby and industry was born as a community centered around joining projects you believe in, and feel you have a part in. You have more than showed up on that first part, and definitely exercised your voice on the second. Now it's time for me to do my part... You asked and asked for a Metro 40s kit and, based on the above, what I provided for R2 clearly isn't it. The flop on the Compact kit is on me, and I fully admit my ignorance when it comes to 40%. I am officially taking another pass at this kit, and would ask you to keep taking an active role in providing feedback on it.

I wont waste time with fancy renders, so look past the crude mockups to the gold at the end of the rainbow. This is still an interest check after all, right?

Consider me humbled, and stay tuned.
-Neph

Just gonna sound like a broken record here but I definitely think you should go the 3 key route



so you definitely have some choices, can't wait to see what you do!

[TheMetalDog]

I'm stupid excited for this set. Don't need the extra Blocks, but I am in for everything else. Looking forward to some of the surprises. I am sure they will be a big temptation as well.

Ready to redo my home office area to match this set! Going big on this one. 

[LordOwen]

This is such a beautiful set, and it's clearly where most of my stimulus money is going.

The only thing I would hope to see added would be a stepped R3 caps in either Signs or Turnpike, but the lack of one isn't going to be stopping me from getting both.

[nephlock]

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so you definitely have some choices, can't wait to see what you do!

Think you might have missed the update. My post a couple back has a new proposed kit that covers these  :thumb:

[paperassgasket]

I think Swishy means that you might be best off including the 3 keys in the base kit rather than a whole separate 40's kit.
Ease correct me if I'm wrong, but that is def a smart move. There's a not insignificant number of people to whom this set is useless unless they have 40's keys. If it happens to run in a crowded month it might be tough to make MOQ on a 40's kit ESPECIALLY if there's other sets that went with the 3 keys in base.

[kidpid]

I think Swishy means that you might be best off including the 3 keys in the base kit rather than a whole separate 40's kit.
Ease correct me if I'm wrong, but that is def a smart move. There's a not insignificant number of people to whom this set is useless unless they have 40's keys. If it happens to run in a crowded month it might be tough to make MOQ on a 40's kit ESPECIALLY if there's other sets that went with the 3 keys in base.

I don't think Merto 2 is going to have any troubles hitting MOQ. A lot of people missed out on this one in R1, which didn't have a large 40s kit in the first place, and I'm guessing it's going to sell quite a bit.

[kapowaz]

It’s great that you’re taking on feedback in this manner, but I have to ask: are 40% users such a significant portion of customers that this is worth doing, but supporting the 3 additional keys for ISO-UK isn’t?

ok, for this iso gets coverage in general physically unless this kit is made there are very many 40s boards that literally can't have the proper physical coverage.

If the lack of ISO-UK support means a customer walks away, the fact physical ISO support exists is meaningless. From anecdotal conversations on this topic I know of several interested parties who will refuse to buy a GMK set without ISO-UK support; these sets are not cheap, so for it to not even support your chosen layout (when other sets do) it’s completely understandable if people choose to spend their money elsewhere. Ultimately the only thing that matters for a GB runner is whether a customer will buy it or not, not whether there’s some hypothetical way of supporting them but which the customer is dissatisfied with. Not being able to even physically cover a 40% board might have different implications, but if it has the same end result (no sale) they are the same problem.

Ultimately it’s a complex problem to support less popular layouts like ISO-UK or 40% for manufacturers with higher MOQs like GMK, but I’m not convinced that the market size for 40% is so big that it warrants specific kitting if ISO-UK doesn’t.

[LightningXI]

Any consideration for icon plus text modifiers? 

[pleasega]

any consideration for more yellow accents? yellow accented arrow keys? i love the yellow!

[jrox]

What are the chances of a simple NORDE Kit? Would it hurt to put up a kit to see if it reaches MOQ?

[Bub]

I think Swishy means that you might be best off including the 3 keys in the base kit rather than a whole separate 40's kit.
Ease correct me if I'm wrong, but that is def a smart move. There's a not insignificant number of people to whom this set is useless unless they have 40's keys. If it happens to run in a crowded month it might be tough to make MOQ on a 40's kit ESPECIALLY if there's other sets that went with the 3 keys in base.

I don't think Merto 2 is going to have any troubles hitting MOQ. A lot of people missed out on this one in R1, which didn't have a large 40s kit in the first place, and I'm guessing it's going to sell quite a bit.

Oh everyone knows MOQ will hit. It's more of a question of are you reaching the most target audience (in the 40s community) by providing 3 key versus a 40s kit, as there is most likely a ~$40 price difference. The downside to 40s kit is that many 40s users don't want to pay $160 for support on a keyboard with about 40 keys, and those people are going to end of not purchasing this set at all. The downside to 3 key is that it doesn't support every 40s board. Nice to see this conversation on GH though. Most people are figuring out what is best as they go.

[kidpid]

Oh everyone knows MOQ will hit. It's more of a question of are you reaching the most target audience (in the 40s community) by providing 3 key versus a 40s kit, as there is most likely a ~$40 price difference. The downside to 40s kit is that many 40s users don't want to pay $160 for support on a keyboard with about 40 keys, and those people are going to end of not purchasing this set at all. The downside to 3 key is that it doesn't support every 40s board. Nice to see this conversation on GH though. Most people are figuring out what is best as they go.

From my perspective, if I like a set enough to buy it, then I'm going to also pick up the 40s kit. However, I understand that I'm not representative of every 40s user. I think both options are valid, and it depends on the set. Is it something known like Metropolis where it's probably going to sell in large quantities? Then a full 40s kit is probably worth it. Is it something brand new that is generating a standard, or less than standard amount of interest? Well then the 3 keys in base is probably better for everyone. I'm all for the push for the 3 keys in base for sets that would otherwise not have 40s support. I think it's a great step forwards in kitting, and I welcome it.

Let's also not forget that this is a round 2 keyset. Which means there are those that purchased the base kit in round 1 (which didn't have 40s support) who would not need to purchase it again, and who would like to add 40s support to their keyset. So their total cost actually goes down from $130 to $40.

[nephlock]

Any consideration for icon plus text modifiers? 

So sorry! I know its a divisive thing, but i feel like the cherry icons directly conflict with the metro icons and cause a mismatch.

What are the chances of a simple NORDE Kit? Would it hurt to put up a kit to see if it reaches MOQ?

The trouble with "seeing if it reaches MOQ" is that from a vendor perspective, if it doesn't, they either need to refund the amount (and lose money in the process), cancel the order (and cause outrage), or suck up and buy the extras to reach MOQ (which leaves them holding a lot of product thats too niche and doesn't sell after ).

This is also historically been the issue with sole UK kits, and even 40% kits.

Let's also not forget that this is a round 2 keyset. Which means there are those that purchased the base kit in round 1 (which didn't have 40s support) who would not need to purchase it again, and who would like to add 40s support to their keyset. So their total cost actually goes down from $130 to $40.

It has been my intention since the feedback after completion of R1 to offer a true 40s kit for R2. I have received numerous requests for this, so the option of killing this kit completely for a 3-key in base solution is not of interest to me. My hope is that with the changes to the kit, and making it an actually desirable 40s kit, that this will have no problem hitting MOQ between the R1 users picking it up and the new crowd coming in.

This will also serve as a test. If R1 users asking for it, R2 interest, and getting feedback from the 40s community on what exactly they'd want in a kit still doesn't get this kit to MOQ then I will see that as justifiable data towards abandoning 40s kits and consider 3-key moving forward

[Decacentum]

Love this set and have been looking to get it for a while through aftermarket. However, that will not be the case! Excited for GB

sad that midnight doesnt include a numpad though, i was planning on using metro on my southpaw.

[retoid]

What are the PMS colors used for this set? Are they matched to any in particular?

[LightningXI]

Any consideration for icon plus text modifiers? 

So sorry! I know its a divisive thing, but i feel like the cherry icons directly conflict with the metro icons and cause a mismatch.

RIP. Thanks for considering it. I love the colorway but would honestly just love to see it with the classic modifiers.

[jrox]

What are the chances of a simple NORDE Kit? Would it hurt to put up a kit to see if it reaches MOQ?

The trouble with "seeing if it reaches MOQ" is that from a vendor perspective, if it doesn't, they either need to refund the amount (and lose money in the process), cancel the order (and cause outrage), or suck up and buy the extras to reach MOQ (which leaves them holding a lot of product thats too niche and doesn't sell after ).

This is also historically been the issue with sole UK kits, and even 40% kits.

Appreciate the response! Let's hope that vendors can see that there is indeed interest for it, especially for the more popular mainstream GBs. And if it's just a 100, that's also a 100 more base kits sold

[JQ27]

Would of been a insta grab if it had UK ISO, will have to pass otherwise 

[SherlockBunny]

Would you consider adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDw? That would make it a must-buy for me.

[L4ll1g470r]

Would of been a insta grab if it had UK ISO, will have to pass otherwise 

Was really hoping this would support NorDe this time. Unfortunately, looks like I’m going to have to pass, no matter how much I’d want this set with the mat an all.

This set really is crying for an international set with UK, NorDe, PT etc.

[bobdenard]

Would of been a insta grab if it had UK ISO, will have to pass otherwise 

Was really hoping this would support NorDe this time. Unfortunately, looks like I’m going to have to pass, no matter how much I’d want this set with the mat an all.

This set really is crying fir an international set with UK, NorDe, PT etc.

At least you have some GMK Norde kits... I’m using French AZERTY and it’s slim pickings out there. Some KAT sets and that’s it... For the 5th most spoken language that kinda sucks.

[Adqam64]

At least you have some GMK Norde kits... I’m using French AZERTY and it’s slim pickings out there. Some KAT sets and that’s it... For the 5th most spoken language that kinda sucks.

FYI there's an ePBT kit coming out with AZERTY support you can see here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108937.0

[Faehriss]

No proper ISO support, no buy. Unfortunate.

[bobdenard]

At least you have some GMK Norde kits... I’m using French AZERTY and it’s slim pickings out there. Some KAT sets and that’s it... For the 5th most spoken language that kinda sucks.

FYI there's an ePBT kit coming out with AZERTY support you can see here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=108937.0

Didn’t know about that one, thanks

[jk_pens]

Does anyone know if this will / won't go nicely with Ikki68 Aurora mint? Thx

[xlSantos]

I decided to pass on it last time but now is my chance to grab it! Glad to see this get a R2

[Adqam64]

The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller, and it is with a heavy heart that I must bid it adieu and offer a paired down 'coverage' kit.

Please could you share your source for the reduced usage of ISO-UK?  I'm trying to gather some statistics in this area.

[internet-nico]

wow, the midnight set is so good!!! That's a buy from me

[NoPunIn10Did]

The biggest difference here, is the removal of full UK ISO support. 
Unfortunately the usage on these kits keeps getting smaller, and it is with a heavy heart that I must bid it adieu and offer a paired down 'coverage' kit.

Please could you share your source for the reduced usage of ISO-UK?  I'm trying to gather some statistics in this area.

I don't know what Nephlock was using, but if you look at sets where a variety of localizations are offered for reasonable prices, UK kits don't always perform as well as expected.  They tend to do fine when they're the most cost-effective ISO kit available, and of the non-US locales they are one of the least expensive to provide coverage for, but when it's possible to control for those factors UK tends to be outshined.

This is mostly anecdotal, and it's hard to find sets where a UK addon kit isn't being treated as a catch-all ISO kit, so it's hard to know for sure.

[mymeepo]

Hello sir, just posting to leave one more +1 for a potential NorDe. Would love to get the Midnight Metropolis for the Iron165 in teal with ISO. Your set is beautiful!

[ZyBeR]

Norde would indeed be nice.


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[luke2fr]

Please consider adding a stepped capslock to TURNPIKE kit.
Would love to get that kit too, but if this key is missing... I sadly won’t.

[pockydavid]

Hello sir, just posting to leave one more +1 for a potential NorDe. Would love to get the Midnight Metropolis for the Iron165 in teal with ISO. Your set is beautiful!

Norde would indeed be nice.


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[Mark The Weeb]

METRO GO BRRR

[Shorle]

Hello sir, just posting to leave one more +1 for a potential NorDe. Would love to get the Midnight Metropolis for the Iron165 in teal with ISO. Your set is beautiful!

Norde would indeed be nice.

NorDe is love! Any set in this colorway (like Modern Dolch or pre color change Origami) would be ludicrously supported in EU if it finally gave us decent NorDe ... imo.

[L4ll1g470r]

Hello sir, just posting to leave one more +1 for a potential NorDe. Would love to get the Midnight Metropolis for the Iron165 in teal with ISO. Your set is beautiful!

Norde would indeed be nice.

NorDe is love! Any set in this colorway (like Modern Dolch or pre color change Origami) would be ludicrously supported in EU if it finally gave us decent NorDe ... imo.

Yes, it isn’t just this set (which is amazing), but this TYPE of set that has really poor availability in NorDe space. Pity.

[leexy]

Please consider having R3 PgUp & R4 PgDn in the midnight base kit

[sagarsiddhpura]

Any updates on pricing

[fruitykeeb]

If anything, I'm in for a deskmat. The first one looks amazing

[cloudburst]

Actually quite like the pure Midnight set and mat

[Leviathan]

I'm in, especially with the 40s kit, nice work.

[Shorle]

Any chance for a NorDe kit in r3?
I have looked at many sets with colored legends on dark caps but none featured NorDe. Does GMK not offer this or why is there no NorDe set?

[NoPunIn10Did]

Any chance for a NorDe kit in r3?
I have looked at many sets with colored legends on dark caps but none featured NorDe. Does GMK not offer this or why is there no NorDe set?

NorDe moulds are definitely available, but NorDe kits tend to have a hard time with GMK group buys. Their pricing tends to be high enough (since they have to be bought as an addon to base) that it’s often hard to find the minimum 100 customers willing to buy the kit. NorDeUK kits tend to do even worse.

They are available periodically for GMK, but your best options are probably from other manufacturers.

[Eagle Bearer]

Would you consider adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDw? That would make it a must-buy for me.

+ 1 on this. I really want that midnight kit with R3 PgUp and R4 PgDw

[Auracity]

rama pls

[jagger27]

I wish there was an affordable way to get a B for my R1.

[andreiborisov]

I wish there was an affordable way to get a B for my R1.

There is: sell your old set and buy R2

[Krxde]

I, too, would love an international set (I'd need ISO-DE) ))

[Cylent]

Huge fan of the midnight set and deskmat, count me in!

[suixt]

OMG, this is the best set I've ever seen and it does not have UK ISO....Someone kill me please

nephlock, please reconsider. We NEED this

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

OMG, this is the best set I've ever seen and it does not have UK ISO....Someone kill me please

nephlock, please reconsider. We NEED this

there's 1500 base kits from R1 w UK iso out in the world and I bet many would sell you the compatibility keys we'd never use over here.

anyways how long till surprises?

[mystarcraftsmurf]

Looking forward to the surprises!

[darthcapn]

One very awkward request and totally unnecessary (also totally understand if you don't entertain the request) but can we get a render for teal iron 165 + the midnight set?

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[suixt]

OMG, this is the best set I've ever seen and it does not have UK ISO....Someone kill me please

nephlock, please reconsider. We NEED this

there's 1500 base kits from R1 w UK iso out in the world and I bet many would sell you the compatibility keys we'd never use over here.

anyways how long till surprises?

That could be an ok option as last resort - but nothing really beats getting all these toys brand new. Is R1 a 100% match even (honest question - was not around that time)?

Since I'm kind of new to the whole thing, is this type of resales taking place frequently on geekhack?

Still I cross my fingers for an ISO extension set! Hopefully this will be one of the last minute surprises.

[bluziff]

Sorry noob question - whats missing for Full ISO support - the base image looks to have all the keys I would need for 60% where are the gaps?

[JQ27]

Sorry noob question - whats missing for Full ISO support - the base image looks to have all the keys I would need for 60% where are the gaps?

The least amount of different keys to make a proper ISO support board would be UK I think.

I think it's 6 keys + short left shift + vertical enter. Those 6 are

R1 - [`¬]  [2 "]  [3 £]
R3 - [' @] [# ~]
R4 - [\ |]

When you get into all the different variants of ISO it expands a lot more though.

End of the day, I'm not sure for how many ISO users I speak for, but having physical ISO support is meaningless if the legend support isn't available to have the correct key caps. Might as well just drop physical ISO to save money for the rest of the ANSI only userbase. Even more so when the price for keycap sets are what they are. It's not worth it getting a product not fit for purpose when one of the main points about the mech hobby is preference, which to some is the ISO layout.

[bluziff]

Sorry noob question - whats missing for Full ISO support - the base image looks to have all the keys I would need for 60% where are the gaps?

The least amount of different keys to make a proper ISO support board would be UK I think.

I think it's 6 keys + short left shift + vertical enter. Those 6 are

R1 - [`¬]  [2 "]  [3 £]
R3 - [' @] [# ~]
R4 - [\ |]
When you get into all the different variants of ISO it expands a lot more though.

End of the day, I'm not sure for how many ISO users I speak for, but having physical ISO support is meaningless if the legend support isn't available to have the correct key caps. Might as well just drop physical ISO to save money for the rest of the ANSI only userbase. Even more so when the price for keycap sets are what they are. It's not worth it getting a product not fit for purpose when one of the main points about the mech hobby is preference, which to some is the ISO layout.

Ah thanks for the help, utter noob here
So the R1 and R3 support is not there on this set.

I get why they are not in the base set, as everyone paying to support fewer users feels unfair and wasteful, but its a shame there's not an additional set to fill in the gaps.

[Faehriss]

End of the day, I'm not sure for how many ISO users I speak for, but having physical ISO support is meaningless if the legend support isn't available to have the correct key caps. Might as well just drop physical ISO to save money for the rest of the ANSI only userbase. Even more so when the price for keycap sets are what they are. It's not worth it getting a product not fit for purpose when one of the main points about the mech hobby is preference, which to some is the ISO layout.

This, really. If anything having physical ISO support and then missing a few 1U keys with existing molds to actually make the layout work is more of a slap in the face than not having ISO at all. When you're paying upwards of £100 for a set of keycaps it really does not feel worth it to buy a set that falls short of actual support.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

That could be an ok option as last resort - but nothing really beats getting all these toys brand new. Is R1 a 100% match even (honest question - was not around that time)?

Since I'm kind of new to the whole thing, is this type of resales taking place frequently on geekhack?

Still I cross my fingers for an ISO extension set! Hopefully this will be one of the last minute surprises.

I’ve had a few sets of both R1 and R2 from GMK and the color match has been great. Have also sold iso keycaps from various sets on mechmarket-they show up in numpad kits sometimes. I sold my R1 for this a few days ago or you could’ve had mine.

[Adqam64]

Sorry noob question - whats missing for Full ISO support - the base image looks to have all the keys I would need for 60% where are the gaps?

End of the day, I'm not sure for how many ISO users I speak for, but having physical ISO support is meaningless if the legend support isn't available to have the correct key caps. Might as well just drop physical ISO to save money for the rest of the ANSI only userbase. Even more so when the price for keycap sets are what they are. It's not worth it getting a product not fit for purpose when one of the main points about the mech hobby is preference, which to some is the ISO layout.

I fully agree that I need full support, not just physical.  I wonder how typical that is though?  Certainly I've seen plenty of images on this and other forums of the physical ISO workaround, so perhaps we are unusual.  I know that many people in the UK have switched to ANSI to get better keycap support anyway.  I'm really curious to learn what the trends are.  I hope nephlock lets us know what lead to the decision to remove it from the base kit.

[ZyBeR]

I was/am an iso user, but almost switched to ansi for keyset convenience and the fact keys I use frequently in prog9are easier to access on ansi.. But back to topic. I would never use iso if it wasn't in my specific dialect, just physical coverage does nothing for me.

Either completely remove it or add a full international kit.


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[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

post that M6c in here!

Instagram link here

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNGA6__Ht8e/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

[Bub]

post that M6c in here!

the m6-c is awesome

[TheMetalDog]

post that M6c in here!

I have a feeling this set is going to break me.

[DrunkSpaniel]

Probably too late but I’d also like to just throw my name in for proper UK ISO support if it’ll help

[Musicmonkay]

Noob question and I don’t know if it’s been answered, but is this going into GB? As the first post mentioned that it’ll start today

[itsmartin]

It’s just crossed midnight in the US, hasn’t it? Most of these run on US time. Expect it to go live later.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Noob question and I don’t know if it’s been answered, but is this going into GB? As the first post mentioned that it’ll start today

https://novelkeys.xyz/collections/frontpage/products/gmk-metropolis-r2-gb

It’s here. There’s Rama novs. This is awesome

[nephlock]

It’s just crossed midnight in the US, hasn’t it? Most of these run on US time. Expect it to go live later.

Correct! The GB thread is currently waiting for approval, but some of the vendors will likely start going live before the approval goes through. There are a few kit updates based on feedback from this IC, and (as some of you have noticed already) some RAMA collab items!

[Musicmonkay]

Thanks for the answers!! I’m stoked for this!

[suixt]

Just ordered this ... I guess it was time to go ANSI and never look back.
Now, I just need a good excuse for my wife about all the UK caps suddenly missing 

[nephlock]

GB Thread is live!

[denncardoso]

OH yeah baby, I was looking for in for R1 in the second market and almost paid 300 Euros. Now I have the opportunity to put my hands on this one! I am on it, for sure!