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[IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate [PROJECT CANCELLED]
« on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 01:50:22 »
Gauging interest on this,
Leeku made pcb to fit on viper/eagle case, with the approbation of Duck. As much as Duck designs are fantastic, his pcb software are subpar compared to other makers. Leeku jigon is one of the best I worked with.
The same way that viper pcb was an eagle pcb on which you break the corner, it will be, it will be 2 different pcbs


Stainless steel plate with cutouts to remove switches.
The price of plate + pcb should be around 80$ before being send to you. Both viper and eagle plate offered.

MOQ of 25 for pcb, plate moq is lower, so PCB orders only will be a possibility.

2-3months to design pcb and produce.

No case will be offered.

Why you want this:
- a pcb easier to work on for your Eagle/Viper,
- ISO viper/eagle,
- replacement pcb for your Eagle/Viper,
- more bottom row possibility



Show me your interest in here, but it is very likely I'll make it happens on my own.

PCB color TBD (I'll take your input).

Bottomside RGB avalaible for extra $$
Same goes for presoldering (resistor and leds).

Layout possibility (remove the keys in the bottom corners for Viper  :thumb: )
« Last Edit: Sat, 23 April 2016, 03:23:16 by azhdar »
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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #1 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 02:18:38 »
If you're getting the Viper ones made, can an Eagle one also be made too?

This would be super easy to accomplish, as Duck also made a single PCB for the Eagle, and then broke off two corners to convert it into a Viper PCB.
« Last Edit: Wed, 02 September 2015, 02:38:59 by Karura »

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #2 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:08:15 »
If you're getting the Viper ones made, can an Eagle one also be made too?

This would be super easy to accomplish, as Duck also made a single PCB for the Eagle, and then broke off two corners to convert it into a Viper PCB.

This is looked into, it might affect the plate MOQ as 2 different plates will be necessary.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #3 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:23:54 »
It 's support ANSI?

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #4 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:26:22 »
It 's support ANSI?

Yes both ANSI and ISO.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #5 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:35:11 »
Oh good. What material of plates? SS/Aluminum or others?

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #6 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 03:42:53 »
If you're getting the Viper ones made, can an Eagle one also be made too?

This would be super easy to accomplish, as Duck also made a single PCB for the Eagle, and then broke off two corners to convert it into a Viper PCB.

This is looked into, it might affect the plate MOQ as 2 different plates will be necessary.

Regardless of the plate, have the PCB designed to support both the Eagle and Viper.

Most likely, someone can re-use their original Duck plate, or have a new one made. ;)

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #7 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:18:31 »
Will the side LED be supported? I'm curious if Leeku PCB can support RGB led, that would be awesome.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #8 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:20:49 »
Will this support all possible layouts on the Viper? Split backspace, short right shift, etc.

A black pcb would be awesome.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:32:30 »
Oh good. What material of plates? SS/Aluminum or others?
Will the side LED be supported? I'm curious if Leeku PCB can support RGB led, that would be awesome.

I'll get you the answers to that asap.




Will this support all possible layouts on the Viper? Split backspace, short right shift, etc.

A black pcb would be awesome.

Using Sethk_ image showing the layout possible on a mx3000:


All the layouts possible on eagle/viper :



should be possible on a leeku pcb and even more, 6u spacebar and split spacebar. I'll get more precise info asap.



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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 12:59:56 »
You are right, I want this. Possibly Alp/MX compatible?

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 02 September 2015, 22:57:09 »
Is there any chance of buying just a PCB?  If I'm buying it as a secondary PCB, I wouldn't mind having one plate mount and one PCB mount; this would also cut down on costs for the second PCB.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plates
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 00:38:22 »
Will the side LED be supported? I'm curious if Leeku PCB can support RGB led, that would be awesome.

I will be for additional money, but I don't really see the point on a duck case.


I'm updating the OP right now with the possible layouts, I just edited the finger L3 layout possibility to a 60% because that's what it will be :)

I'm looking into the plate situation, not too sure how the MOQ works on this, especially with 2 different plates (eagle/viper).

The pcb will be a breakable combo like on Eagle/Viper.

The plate will we Stainless steel with the cutouts for removable switches.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 02:45:25 »
Everythings is on good way like I think. Count me in.
Waiting to hear more details about bottomside RGB  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 15:11:57 »
I'm in!  I have a bum pcb for a viper and haven't been able to get a new one yet so this is perfect  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 15:54:28 »
Interested, would love a white pcb.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 16:30:24 »
Have an eagle coming in, so a second PCB would be sweet.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 16:55:30 »
Is this going to be compatible with Alps mount switches as well?  I seem to remember the Eagle being Alps compatible...
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 17:43:43 »
You are right, I want this. Possibly Alp/MX compatible?

Is this going to be compatible with Alps mount switches as well?  I seem to remember the Eagle being Alps compatible...

Forgot to answer that, it will be mx only.

There's quite a lot of interest, I'll try to finalize the details and pricing asap.

Still taking your input on the color of the PCB :D
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 18:36:04 »
Is there such a thing as aftermarket cases for the eagle/viper?
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 18:39:46 »
I love my Eagle so much, but I hate the pcb.

Definitely interested in this  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 18:57:10 »
I'll take a viper PCB.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 19:55:29 »
Hi azhdar, can you add the Leeku ALPhaS L3 PCB for the Orion V1 to the insetting also? Have been looking for one.  :(
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 20:25:33 »
You are right, I want this. Possibly Alp/MX compatible?

Is this going to be compatible with Alps mount switches as well?  I seem to remember the Eagle being Alps compatible...

Forgot to answer that, it will be mx only.

There's quite a lot of interest, I'll try to finalize the details and pricing asap.

Still taking your input on the color of the PCB :D

Oh great options. Should have red color. Almost people like this color :D

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 03 September 2015, 21:05:01 »
yes please
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:18:13 »
Hi azhdar, can you add the Leeku ALPhaS L3 PCB for the Orion V1 to the insetting also? Have been looking for one.  :(
http://kbdlab.co.kr/index.php?document_srl=2393818&mid=board_Lsno50

Sry no, I'll focus on Eagle&Viper pcb and plates only.

I asked the moderation team to add a poll to determine what people are interested in the most(pcb only or added plates). pls vote when it appears ;)

I think the pcb color will be choose by the buyers, you'll get to vote for you favorite color when you order, most popular color will be selected.

I'll add this blue color to the candidate because I find it quite sexy.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:22:02 »
Thanks for news.
Look your pcb pic like Sprit 60% PCB  :p

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:27:02 »
Thanks for news.
Look your pcb pic like Sprit 60% PCB  :p

This is a sprit pcb :p
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #28 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:46:32 »
I asked the moderation team to add a poll to determine what people are interested in the most(pcb only or added plates). pls vote when it appears ;)

Poll is up.  :thumb:  If you need anything changed, just let myself or another mod know.  :)

Also, voted!  :))

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #29 on: Fri, 04 September 2015, 07:49:08 »
I asked the moderation team to add a poll to determine what people are interested in the most(pcb only or added plates). pls vote when it appears ;)

Poll is up.  :thumb:  If you need anything changed, just let myself or another mod know.  :)

Also, voted!  :))

That was quick! Thanks !
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #30 on: Sat, 05 September 2015, 02:25:05 »
Voted.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 05 September 2015, 02:45:33 »
Guess having a backup can't hurt. Voted.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 05 September 2015, 21:35:38 »
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 05 September 2015, 23:13:07 »
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.

Should fit. It have more holes than but positions is same. I am not sure. Need times to check.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 06 September 2015, 16:46:38 »
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.

If you compare this (the standoffs will show you the regular 60% position):




to this (a duck eagle):



You'll see that the positions aren't the same. I have no intention to make it compatible for regular 60%, this will be stricly for Eagle/viper.

Few things have been cleared:
- possibility of SMD (resistor+diodes ) soldering will be offered for extra 15$
- both Eagle & Viper plate will be made
- leeku has been given all informations necessary by Duck.

Only pricing need to be finalized on few points (shipping, precise plate & pcb prices). Plus I need to finish other keyboard related projects before starting this.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 06 September 2015, 19:52:04 »
I checked with my Viper PCB with FMJ housing.
This is some pics:





You can just mount 4 holes, no more. I think it's enough reliable to use.
This is only personal idea. You should thinking to give decision.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 06 September 2015, 19:55:26 »
Does the Eagle PCB/plate combo fit the many Poker/GH60 cases out there? I missed out on the original buy, and although I've been digging into the old threads, I can't seem to find this info.

If you compare this (the standoffs will show you the regular 60% position):

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to this (a duck eagle):

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You'll see that the positions aren't the same. I have no intention to make it compatible for regular 60%, this will be stricly for Eagle/viper.

Few things have been cleared:
- possibility of SMD (resistor+diodes ) soldering will be offered for extra 15$
- both Eagle & Viper plate will be made
- leeku has been given all informations necessary by Duck.

Only pricing need to be finalized on few points (shipping, precise plate & pcb prices). Plus I need to finish other keyboard related projects before starting this.
Thank you for clearing it up so completely. I'm definitely not asking for Poker compatibility, but I was hoping I could build one of these, since I don't already have a case.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 06 September 2015, 20:02:36 »
I checked with my Viper PCB with FMJ housing.
This is some pics:

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You can just mount 4 holes, no more. I think it's enough reliable to use.
This is only personal idea. You should thinking to give decision.
Thank you for the pictures. At least I know I could make it work if I want to chance it.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 07 September 2015, 17:09:55 »
interested, Leeku's PCBs are a lot nicer than Ducks IMO

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 11 September 2015, 09:36:50 »
How deal breaker would that be for you guys to have non removable switch tops?
This is still in discussion, but we might not be able to do them.

Still a few points to figure out, I hope to launch it before october.

Also we might be heading towards 2 pcb, because a pcb with so much bottom row possibility might get in the way of a breakable version.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 11 September 2015, 16:40:04 »
Great man ! I voted  :thumb: :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 11 September 2015, 19:42:09 »
How deal breaker would that be for you guys to have non removable switch tops?
This is still in discussion, but we might not be able to do them.

Still a few points to figure out, I hope to launch it before october.

Also we might be heading towards 2 pcb, because a pcb with so much bottom row possibility might get in the way of a breakable version.

I love non removable switch tops. I think we should get it like Eagle/Viper plates.
Sure you should do 2 pcb because Eagle/Viper is a batch not 2 piece like other case.

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 11 September 2015, 23:09:01 »
Custom removable switch top plate is much better, but if it isn't possible, I'd take a plate over no plate.

Function over form (not like you can see it anyway, with keycaps on).

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:42:03 »
Finally we will be able to provide removable switch tops.
Working on the render of plate and picture of the multiple layouts available, we will be ready to launch in a very close future.
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« Reply #44 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 06:44:26 »
Finally we will be able to provide removable switch tops.
Working on the render of plate and picture of the multiple layouts available, we will be ready to launch in a very close future.

Good news :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 15 September 2015, 20:16:12 »
great newS to have the Kutouts included ;)

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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:12:17 »
Hi!
Very nice!
Please add Minila bottom line option with 3u (or similar short) space bar for Viper.
Fn keys around short space bar is a dream layout.
I replaced Minila's controller with teensy to do so on my keyboard.
My dream is to have Viper with short space bar!
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:18:46 »
Hi!
Very nice!
Please add Minila bottom line option with 3u (or similar short) space bar for Viper.
Fn keys around short space bar is a dream layout.
I replaced Minila's controller with teensy to do so on my keyboard.
My dream is to have Viper with short space bar!
Thanks.


As you can see in the picture I put in the op, split spacebar should be an option for this :



But know that this is just an exemple of what leeku pcb generally offers, we're still working to see if the mounting positions of the duck/eagle case will get in the way of those possibilities.

This is one of the last points we're working on.

Also I'm not sure if I told it in the thread already but Eagle&Viper will be 2 differents PCB, too many bottom row possibilities to make one unique breakable pcb.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 04:42:40 »
> As you can see in the picture I put in the op, split spacebar should be an option for this

Yes, I see azhdar, thank you.
I only talking about how to split space bar right way. I do not bother much of rest keys in bottom line.
It will be nice if viper mount points allows to split 6.25u space bar with for example 2.25-2.75-1.25 layout.
For me it is much more usable for touch typing then for example 2.25-1.25-2.75 layout because of biggest key in the middle.
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Re: [IC] Leeku Eagle/Viper PCB (ISO+ANSI) + plate
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 16 September 2015, 05:00:30 »
I am very excited by the option for a split spacebar layout.  :-*

If there is an interference issue due to a case stand-off, I would suggest that the problem could be easily resolved with a Dremel.