I am the first. :DYup you are. :-*
Looking very good. Just to make sure, it's top mounted, right?Yes, it's top mounted
Looking very good. Just to make sure, it's top mounted, right?Yes, it's top mounted
Looking very good. Just to make sure, it's top mounted, right?Yes, it's top mounted
Thanks for the reply.. just one more question, does the plate accept tsangan layout: split BS and split right shift?
Board looks neat, but with the 2 nameplates, is there an option to have one of them as a blank?
What's an LDN PCB and how does one program it? Is it support on windows and Mac? or just windows?
What's an LDN PCB and how does one program it? Is it support on windows and Mac? or just windows?
I found a setup guide for the LDN PCB here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eikoug6omp82xe/C³-LDNrgb80pcb%20Quick%20Guide.pdf?dl=0
I think Mac is not supported.
What's an LDN PCB and how does one program it? Is it support on windows and Mac? or just windows?
I found a setup guide for the LDN PCB here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eikoug6omp82xe/C³-LDNrgb80pcb%20Quick%20Guide.pdf?dl=0
I think Mac is not supported.
I'm also dependent on being able to configure the board on macOSWhat's an LDN PCB and how does one program it? Is it support on windows and Mac? or just windows?
I found a setup guide for the LDN PCB here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/7eikoug6omp82xe/C³-LDNrgb80pcb%20Quick%20Guide.pdf?dl=0
I think Mac is not supported.
Would be good to know this first before ordering, since this would be a deal-breaker for me.
welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
Sadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
Just commented on the IC thread but figured it would be better to comment it here.
Is the case compatible with other pcbs for example the h87a, from hiney?
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Sadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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"Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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"Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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Just commented on the IC thread but figured it would be better to comment it here.
Is the case compatible with other pcbs for example the h87a, from hiney?
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I would assume so. I used the LDN V1 PCB in my Mech27 and it was fine!
I will say the auditable code portion is something to consider and is a very good point I had overlooked. Multi platform support is a :shrug: for me. The install base of macOS and Linux is quite low worldwide. I can think of very very few people I know who *only* have macOS with zero access to a windows install or machine. How often are you reconfiguring your board that you need this anyway. It's a TKL not a 40 percent."Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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If you open up the code I can guarantee that people will port it macOS/linux/whatever platform without anyone else having to lift a finger or even ask for itI will say the auditable code portion is something to consider and is a very good point I had overlooked. Multi platform support is a :shrug: for me. The install base of macOS and Linux is quite low worldwide. I can think of very very few people I know who *only* have macOS with zero access to a windows install or machine. How often are you reconfiguring your board that you need this anyway. It's a TKL not a 40 percent."Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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Agreed. Hopefully it happens in the future.If you open up the code I can guarantee that people will port it macOS/linux/whatever platform without anyone else having to lift a finger or even ask for itI will say the auditable code portion is something to consider and is a very good point I had overlooked. Multi platform support is a :shrug: for me. The install base of macOS and Linux is quite low worldwide. I can think of very very few people I know who *only* have macOS with zero access to a windows install or machine. How often are you reconfiguring your board that you need this anyway. It's a TKL not a 40 percent."Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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Open source is loveIf you open up the code I can guarantee that people will port it macOS/linux/whatever platform without anyone else having to lift a finger or even ask for itI will say the auditable code portion is something to consider and is a very good point I had overlooked. Multi platform support is a :shrug: for me. The install base of macOS and Linux is quite low worldwide. I can think of very very few people I know who *only* have macOS with zero access to a windows install or machine. How often are you reconfiguring your board that you need this anyway. It's a TKL not a 40 percent."Have supported them well in the past... unless you use anything besides windows." is what I think you met to say. I'm not saying QMK is not the end all be all of everything, but let's not brush the strengths of audit-able code and platform agnostic software under the rug. Not having that IS sadSadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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what does the three chinese characters say? :DZero Point Nine supposedly
Just commented on the IC thread but figured it would be better to comment it here.Probably not. This PCB is little different with B87. A small change with USB type-c port. Plus, dont know if there any type-c pcb out there. I am not doing type-c pcbs because there aren't many cases fit it.
Is the case compatible with other pcbs for example the h87a, from hiney?
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I PMed you regarding payment.Just commented on the IC thread but figured it would be better to comment it here.Probably not. This PCB is little different with B87. A small change with USB type-c port. Plus, dont know if there any type-c pcb out there. I am not doing type-c pcbs because there aren't many cases fit it.
Is the case compatible with other pcbs for example the h87a, from hiney?
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PMed. sorry too many messages.I PMed you regarding payment.Just commented on the IC thread but figured it would be better to comment it here.Probably not. This PCB is little different with B87. A small change with USB type-c port. Plus, dont know if there any type-c pcb out there. I am not doing type-c pcbs because there aren't many cases fit it.
Is the case compatible with other pcbs for example the h87a, from hiney?
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Why do people care about QMK so much? It's a keyboard, the look and the feel are much needed on it not the software. You only need to program it once then use it forever.
Corsair, Razer or Logitech have very good software for their keyboards, then go for it.
Why do people care about QMK so much? It's a keyboard, the look and the feel are much needed on it not the software. You only need to program it once then use it forever.Who wants to spend time learning new software when you could just use the well documented tried and true software that actually works for everyone...
Corsair, Razer or Logitech have very good software for their keyboards, then go for it.
Why do people care about QMK so much? It's a keyboard, the look and the feel are much needed on it not the software. You only need to program it once then use it forever.
Corsair, Razer or Logitech have very good software for their keyboards, then go for it.
Mostly because I'm a mac user, and I won't be able to program it using their software. There are workarounds- but it's a PITA. I could get it done regardless, but it'd be nice to have a mac supported software.
Pm'd in regards to shippingPm'd Shipping to Australia is 35USD for anyone is wondering
It's seems people are talking about QMK every time i post a keyboard GB.A website based programming would already be great!
When we first enter this community,it's the time B.fake is the largest used PCB.People are saying Chinese only make fake PCBs to me.This hurts. So me and my friends decide to make our own PCBs. That's when LDN have joined us and share this dream.He have learned how to make a PCB from nothing. With around a years work,we got our own PCBs the LDN series RGB pcb. We have all the functions QMK/TMK have and more. Along with fully RGB,faster chips,own developed software,etc. I know it's not perfect,software not supporting MAC/Linux etc.But we have come a long way and perfecting it as we speak. Right now LDN is working on a website-based programming system like QMK. We will release a new sound control LED effect before this ship out. So play a music on your computer and see how RGB led dance!
As for this buy,like someone said in this thread. This is a TKL, how often do you need to program it. And as far as i know there's more window than mac in the world now.
Why do people care about QMK so much? It's a keyboard, the look and the feel are much needed on it not the software. You only need to program it once then use it forever.Who wants to spend time learning new software when you could just use the well documented tried and true software that actually works for everyone...
Corsair, Razer or Logitech have very good software for their keyboards, then go for it.
Why do people care about QMK so much? It's a keyboard, the look and the feel are much needed on it not the software. You only need to program it once then use it forever.The main reason people care about QMK is that it is open source, and then of course all of the benefits that come from that. It wouldn't be voiced so much if the fact of the matter is that ANY software could be open sourced. It's one thing to say X software is better than Y, but why not prove it by showing the code?
Corsair, Razer or Logitech have very good software for their keyboards, then go for it.
The main reason people care about QMK is that it is open source, and then of course all of the benefits that come from that. It wouldn't be voiced so much if the fact of the matter is that ANY software could be open sourced. It's one thing to say X software is better than Y, but why not prove it by showing the code?I can't tell if there's a language barrier thing happening here or not, but I'm consistently confused at the notion that the LDN series boards are not QMK-compatible because they do not want to open-source the PCB; as best I understand, there is absolutely no requirement that the PCB be open-sourced for it to run QMK. Indeed, the QMK repo contains configurations and mappings for what seems like a significant number of PCBs that are decidedly not open-source.
Again... I'm not saying port this to QMK or default to QMK. Hell, I'm not even suggesting allowing or maintaining pull requests. Its more about just open sourcing the code that is going to be building the firmware that I'm using for my keyboard. QMK just so happens to be the main firmware that has open code.The main reason people care about QMK is that it is open source, and then of course all of the benefits that come from that. It wouldn't be voiced so much if the fact of the matter is that ANY software could be open sourced. It's one thing to say X software is better than Y, but why not prove it by showing the code?I can't tell if there's a language barrier thing happening here or not, but I'm consistently confused at the notion that the LDN series boards are not QMK-compatible because they do not want to open-source the PCB; as best I understand, there is absolutely no requirement that the PCB be open-sourced for it to run QMK. Indeed, the QMK repo contains configurations and mappings for what seems like a significant number of PCBs that are decidedly not open-source.
The firmware itself is open-source, sure, and porting a board to QMK absolutely involves mapping lots of pinouts that could, I guess, be used to recreate a PCB in an incredibly rough way, but it's not like kicad or eagle or whatever files are in there; I don't know that what is contained in QMK would make a board any easier to reproduce than any number of widely-available photos taken and renders produced of that PCB (and certainly it would be less useful than having a board itself and inspecting it).
Anyway I have said too much already and I've already made my stance fairly clear: I spend too much time working on a mac, too much time writing custom lighting modes/options for my boards, and too much time fiddling around with my keymaps to give myself all kinds of little nice-to-haves for my development process to get a board that runs a firmware whose source I can't modify. I have no hard feelings with this team: they do great work, and I'm sure it's plenty/enough for lots and lots of the folks on this forum, but their work just doesn't support what I do and I can choose to either get over it and stop complaining about them doing their own thing or be a jerk on the internet. I'm gonna not be a jerk, let them do their own thing, and wish them the best with this and all future work.
Just throw an H87A in it and call it good lolThe main reason people care about QMK is that it is open source, and then of course all of the benefits that come from that. It wouldn't be voiced so much if the fact of the matter is that ANY software could be open sourced. It's one thing to say X software is better than Y, but why not prove it by showing the code?I can't tell if there's a language barrier thing happening here or not, but I'm consistently confused at the notion that the LDN series boards are not QMK-compatible because they do not want to open-source the PCB; as best I understand, there is absolutely no requirement that the PCB be open-sourced for it to run QMK. Indeed, the QMK repo contains configurations and mappings for what seems like a significant number of PCBs that are decidedly not open-source.
The firmware itself is open-source, sure, and porting a board to QMK absolutely involves mapping lots of pinouts that could, I guess, be used to recreate a PCB in an incredibly rough way, but it's not like kicad or eagle or whatever files are in there; I don't know that what is contained in QMK would make a board any easier to reproduce than any number of widely-available photos taken and renders produced of that PCB (and certainly it would be less useful than having a board itself and inspecting it).
Anyway I have said too much already and I've already made my stance fairly clear: I spend too much time working on a mac, too much time writing custom lighting modes/options for my boards, and too much time fiddling around with my keymaps to give myself all kinds of little nice-to-haves for my development process to get a board that runs a firmware whose source I can't modify. I have no hard feelings with this team: they do great work, and I'm sure it's plenty/enough for lots and lots of the folks on this forum, but their work just doesn't support what I do and I can choose to either get over it and stop complaining about them doing their own thing or be a jerk on the internet. I'm gonna not be a jerk, let them do their own thing, and wish them the best with this and all future work.
Can't make sure it will fit. Plus if you really want to try. Buy a B87sizeJust throw an H87A in it and call it good lolThe main reason people care about QMK is that it is open source, and then of course all of the benefits that come from that. It wouldn't be voiced so much if the fact of the matter is that ANY software could be open sourced. It's one thing to say X software is better than Y, but why not prove it by showing the code?I can't tell if there's a language barrier thing happening here or not, but I'm consistently confused at the notion that the LDN series boards are not QMK-compatible because they do not want to open-source the PCB; as best I understand, there is absolutely no requirement that the PCB be open-sourced for it to run QMK. Indeed, the QMK repo contains configurations and mappings for what seems like a significant number of PCBs that are decidedly not open-source.
The firmware itself is open-source, sure, and porting a board to QMK absolutely involves mapping lots of pinouts that could, I guess, be used to recreate a PCB in an incredibly rough way, but it's not like kicad or eagle or whatever files are in there; I don't know that what is contained in QMK would make a board any easier to reproduce than any number of widely-available photos taken and renders produced of that PCB (and certainly it would be less useful than having a board itself and inspecting it).
Anyway I have said too much already and I've already made my stance fairly clear: I spend too much time working on a mac, too much time writing custom lighting modes/options for my boards, and too much time fiddling around with my keymaps to give myself all kinds of little nice-to-haves for my development process to get a board that runs a firmware whose source I can't modify. I have no hard feelings with this team: they do great work, and I'm sure it's plenty/enough for lots and lots of the folks on this forum, but their work just doesn't support what I do and I can choose to either get over it and stop complaining about them doing their own thing or be a jerk on the internet. I'm gonna not be a jerk, let them do their own thing, and wish them the best with this and all future work.
Could we get a picture of the usb port/ back side of the keyboard?
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Just to be clear, there is no Blue PC option, that is just how those images came through, correct?
The second set of renders definitely gives the PC a very blue cast with its lighting; my partner had the same question when looking at the images. I just sampled #8cbfde from one of them, which I think most folks would agree is pretty blue. Just a quirk of renders/lighting, I think; nothing I wouldn't expect, but I can see how one would get confused.Just to be clear, there is no Blue PC option, that is just how those images came through, correct?
I think your monitor is in need of adjustment.
The second set of renders definitely gives the PC a very blue cast with its lighting; my partner had the same question when looking at the images. I just sampled #8cbfde from one of them, which I think most folks would agree is pretty blue. Just a quirk of renders/lighting, I think; nothing I wouldn't expect, but I can see how one would get confused.Just to be clear, there is no Blue PC option, that is just how those images came through, correct?
I think your monitor is in need of adjustment.
It might have something to do with the blue background and the translucent polycarbonate.Yeah, I very well understand why it looks that way. I'm just pointing out that it's not a totally absurd or idiotic question regardless of what somebody's monitor calibrations might be.
It might have something to do with the blue background and the translucent polycarbonate.Yeah, I very well understand why it looks that way. I'm just pointing out that it's not a totally absurd or idiotic question regardless of what somebody's monitor calibrations might be.
Could we get a picture of the usb port/ back side of the keyboard?It's just plain. Please don't ask me to take more photos,i am not good at it.
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Just to be clear, there is no Blue PC option, that is just how those images came through, correct?I just take these photo on my office carpet. The carpet is blue so there may some color issues. Also with different monitor it could look much different.
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I filled out the form and didn't receive a invoice.
is the rgb only per key or is there underglowIt's per key+underglow
Haven't see your form. Can you fill them againAll invoices sent. If you have any problem regarding invoices,please let me know.
I filled out the form and didn't receive a invoice.
No invoice here either.
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I filled out the form and didn't receive a invoice.
same here
No invoice here either.All invoices sent. If you have any problem regarding invoices,please let me know.
I filled out the form and didn't receive a invoice.
same here
You guys invoice will be send today.
No invoice here either.All invoices sent. If you have any problem regarding invoices,please let me know.
I filled out the form and didn't receive a invoice.
same here
You guys invoice will be send today.
I haven't received mine either
At what timezone will the deadline be?Form closed on 19th.
Sorry, I meant timezone. I was guessing you're in China, so maybe UTC +8?Oh,sorry my bad. It's UTC+8. ;D ;D ;D
I haven't received an invoice either.Well,i should send your invoice. Invoice number 0235. Please check it. If you still haven't seen it i can invoice you again.
Will we know how many people ordered a board?Right now, 62 paid orders.We can expect 70-80 orders on GH.
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I am at work and can't see the images for some reason. But since i am looking for TKL kits, does this have custom colors offered or select colors? Sorry if it was answered elsewhere in this post just can't see a lot of it for some reasonIt's PC, so just one color. Besides, the GB is closed but maybe you can still order if u pm the runner.
I am at work and can't see the images for some reason. But since i am looking for TKL kits, does this have custom colors offered or select colors? Sorry if it was answered elsewhere in this post just can't see a lot of it for some reasonIt's PC, so just one color. Besides, the GB is closed but maybe you can still order if u pm the runner.
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Paid factory, They are buying material now and will start CNCing once the material arrived. Will keep updating in this thread. Hype
Paid factory, They are buying material now and will start CNCing once the material arrived. Will keep updating in this thread. Hype
Hello i know i am very late to this but is there any chance i can still get in on itI have put down the orders to factory,it's just too late for that.
4,PCB is our LDN series with 16.77M color RGB,fully-programmable,TYPE-C port,pre-soldered everything. Just need put stabs and solder the switches.
Please don't ask for QMK,we have our own developed LDN PCB. We don't Use QMK. Thank you
when you say everything comes pre-soldered, does that include RGB LEDS?
Whats the weight of the board with everything installed?
Also would you be able to order the plate as poly carbonate instead of the brass?
The weight include Case,weight,badge,brass plate,Tangerines switches(84) is 1175.9 Gram.
Whats the weight of the keyboard with the weights?
Whats the weight of the board with everything installed?
Also would you be able to order the plate as poly carbonate instead of the brass?
The weight include Case,weight,badge,brass plate,Tangerines switches(84) is 1175.9 Gram.Whats the weight of the keyboard with the weights?
Thanks for answering all the questions for me :thumb: :thumb:My pleasure!
Wonder if there are anything on update?
What discord server is that? Do you have a link?Wonder if there are anything on update?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfH6gf7.png)
What discord server is that? Do you have a link?Wonder if there are anything on update?Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfH6gf7.png)
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Wonder if there are anything on update?Nice, thanks!Show Image(https://i.imgur.com/EfH6gf7.png)
Updates: We just waiting for the Polycarbonate case for this. Everything else is here. So if everything goes well, we can ship these out early November. So everything is on schedule
This has nothing to do with the GB but would it be possible to kinda join the current GB only for the C³-LDN RGB80% PCB? ;)
Yes, we are doing a hotswap 80%PCB for R2 now and the 60% maybe coming soon on TKC.This has nothing to do with the GB but would it be possible to kinda join the current GB only for the C³-LDN RGB80% PCB? ;)
There will be a R2 of their PCB including the 60% version, though we haven't gotten any updates about either happening just yet, only that they'll be working with TKC and a few other proxies. I'd imagine we'll get more information on them soon though! :thumb:
Yes, we are doing a hotswap 80%PCB for R2 now and the 60% maybe coming soon on TKC.This has nothing to do with the GB but would it be possible to kinda join the current GB only for the C³-LDN RGB80% PCB? ;)
There will be a R2 of their PCB including the 60% version, though we haven't gotten any updates about either happening just yet, only that they'll be working with TKC and a few other proxies. I'd imagine we'll get more information on them soon though! :thumb:
Yes, we are doing a hotswap 80%PCB for R2 now and the 60% maybe coming soon on TKC.This has nothing to do with the GB but would it be possible to kinda join the current GB only for the C³-LDN RGB80% PCB? ;)
There will be a R2 of their PCB including the 60% version, though we haven't gotten any updates about either happening just yet, only that they'll be working with TKC and a few other proxies. I'd imagine we'll get more information on them soon though! :thumb:
The GB is up for hotswap 80% PCB :eek: ?
Any updates on shipping times? Still on schedule?According to my factory this one is still on schedule. But i am not sure if we will face delay. Will keep update
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
Just as a disclaimer, I am in this gb and planning to stay just purely based on C3 being a known person in the community and having delivered many projects. So personally, regardless of which approach he picks, I believe he will deliver the product eventually. That said I agree with wholypantalones here. Say that this gb had 200 boards and now he sells 200 more, and during production something goes south again, is he going to sell a new batch to fix that 400? It is proven time and time that approach usually doesn't work.
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
Just as a disclaimer, I am in this gb and planning to stay just purely based on C3 being a known person in the community and having delivered many projects. So personally, regardless of which approach he picks, I believe he will deliver the product eventually. That said I agree with wholypantalones here. Say that this gb had 200 boards and now he sells 200 more, and during production something goes south again, is he going to sell a new batch to fix that 400? It is proven time and time that approach usually doesn't work.
Not to mention that more orders means longer fulfillment time and less involved QC.
Honestly, as someone who participated in this gb and was expecting a short lead time only to find out that there is no product after three months, none of this makes me confident to continue any further.
Sadly nothing, they designed their own pcbs and have supported them well in the past. While qmk is nice and easy it's not the end all be all of anything.welp i'm ready, but NO QMK = NO LUBESadly, its pretty standard for Chinese manu'd pcb's
this one is gonna hurt bois
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4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
Just as a disclaimer, I am in this gb and planning to stay just purely based on C3 being a known person in the community and having delivered many projects. So personally, regardless of which approach he picks, I believe he will deliver the product eventually. That said I agree with wholypantalones here. Say that this gb had 200 boards and now he sells 200 more, and during production something goes south again, is he going to sell a new batch to fix that 400? It is proven time and time that approach usually doesn't work.
Not to mention that more orders means longer fulfillment time and less involved QC.
Honestly, as someone who participated in this gb and was expecting a short lead time only to find out that there is no product after three months, none of this makes me confident to continue any further.
I too was a part of this GB and being my first with the community, I don't have a lot of faith a future product will be managed well with the next manufacturer.
Aren't key milestones set from the outset of the project being worked on with the manu, PRIOR to any money changing hands?
I feel for c3's current situation, but at the end of the day, the community has entrusted him with their hard earned money, to only be left in the dark for 3 months with nothing to show for it.
Update for Zer0.9EE/PolycarbonateHow do I place a new order?
I am sad to tell everyone this bad news, my CNC factory have escape with my money and they haven’t deliver anything.They are not answer our calls,email,instant message and we have go to their place and find out it’s all empty. So today we can be sure that my CNC guy have run off. I am really sorry about this and we couldn’t let you guys be response for all of this,so here is how we want to deal with this situation.
1, We are making the case with another CNC shop with same quality. We will re-new the leadtime. That means another 3 month for now and we will deliver this keyboard. All other stuff(PCBs,packing,etc）is already in our warehouse now and this project is too good to be wasted so we still want to make it happen. For compensation,we will give everyone a set of stabs(random color) and our newly made tangerines switches(90PCS).
2, We understand some people are not willing to take the risk again. We will give full refund to you and a set of stabs(random color, free shipping)for compensation.
Refund please email to erduo.ear@gmail.com with a form like this:
Invoice number:
GH ID:
We will give refund next Friday.
3, This thing affect both Zer0.9EE(alu) and Zer0.9 polycarbonate.
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
In the end, i just want to say that we value our brand so much and we will take all the responsibility for this kind of thing. We are prepared to refund everyone.
Sorry again for this,I promise we will learn from this and be more responsible in the future.
4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
Just as a disclaimer, I am in this gb and planning to stay just purely based on C3 being a known person in the community and having delivered many projects. So personally, regardless of which approach he picks, I believe he will deliver the product eventually. That said I agree with wholypantalones here. Say that this gb had 200 boards and now he sells 200 more, and during production something goes south again, is he going to sell a new batch to fix that 400? It is proven time and time that approach usually doesn't work.
Not to mention that more orders means longer fulfillment time and less involved QC.
Honestly, as someone who participated in this gb and was expecting a short lead time only to find out that there is no product after three months, none of this makes me confident to continue any further.
I too was a part of this GB and being my first with the community, I don't have a lot of faith a future product will be managed well with the next manufacturer.
Aren't key milestones set from the outset of the project being worked on with the manu, PRIOR to any money changing hands?
I feel for c3's current situation, but at the end of the day, the community has entrusted him with their hard earned money, to only be left in the dark for 3 months with nothing to show for it.
in fairness to c3, being left in the dark is the story for most gbs, there's not a lot of updates going around these days. there's also not a lot he can do if he's being lied to.
also be a little bit thankful, everyone has the ability to get a full refund with compensation. that is not going to be the case with many gbs. if i was trying to run a gb and this happened, you'd all be ****ed.
he's making things right. if you don't have confidence then take your refund and find another gb ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why we taking new orders? There's a lot of refunds and before we ordered like 100 keyboards and now we just have 50. I have to make up to 100 again to remain our orders.You've got my faith!
I believe there aren't any groupbuy runners willing to do refund like i do.Most of the groupbuy's money is already gone. Now i have to pay the new factory and give refund from my own pocket.
In the end of the day, i have take all the lost. Please give us some faith. I am not running off like my factory. We have been working hard for our brand and we cherish our brand too much.
Thank you for all your kind words. I am really touched. You have much better words than i ever did. It's like speaking from the bottom of my heart.4, Since we are re-making all of this, we will take new orders if anyone still trusting us.I doubt there is but we will rebuilt the trust.
Shouldn't focusing on fulfilling the original GB orders that were supposed to ship today take precedence over taking new orders? Why would you throw more orders on top of this mess?
How do you figure that it isn't? More orders will help them recoup some of the loss they're about to take from giving out refunds and spending double to fulfill the non-refunded orders.
Just as a disclaimer, I am in this gb and planning to stay just purely based on C3 being a known person in the community and having delivered many projects. So personally, regardless of which approach he picks, I believe he will deliver the product eventually. That said I agree with wholypantalones here. Say that this gb had 200 boards and now he sells 200 more, and during production something goes south again, is he going to sell a new batch to fix that 400? It is proven time and time that approach usually doesn't work.
Not to mention that more orders means longer fulfillment time and less involved QC.
Honestly, as someone who participated in this gb and was expecting a short lead time only to find out that there is no product after three months, none of this makes me confident to continue any further.
I too was a part of this GB and being my first with the community, I don't have a lot of faith a future product will be managed well with the next manufacturer.
Aren't key milestones set from the outset of the project being worked on with the manu, PRIOR to any money changing hands?
I feel for c3's current situation, but at the end of the day, the community has entrusted him with their hard earned money, to only be left in the dark for 3 months with nothing to show for it.
in fairness to c3, being left in the dark is the story for most gbs, there's not a lot of updates going around these days. there's also not a lot he can do if he's being lied to.
also be a little bit thankful, everyone has the ability to get a full refund with compensation. that is not going to be the case with many gbs. if i was trying to run a gb and this happened, you'd all be ****ed.
he's making things right. if you don't have confidence then take your refund and find another gb ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
That's very true, in all fairness, the willingness from the gb runner to embrace the full loss and issue full refund + compensation is just appalling. Being a customer who has been willing to wait for 3 months for the product and ends up not getting one is a disappointment, but at least you have nothing to lose - and thats mainly because the gb runner would rather take the fall for all of you, even though the incident was not entirely his fault. Guys, please don't take this for granted. I'm not justifying that the gb runner should just act like other failed gb runners whom just let the gb die quietly, but at least you can see the sincerity from C3.
He could have just said sorry guys, bad luck.
He could have just splitted the loss with you all, by probably issuing partial refund or delivering B or below stock item
There were not a lot of options, but he chose the toughest one, at least for his position. Be respectful and don't take this for granted. It's a bummer that the GB cannot go as planned, but **** happens. And what matters is how we proceed to make things better.
Thank you so much. It really means a lot to me at this kind of moments.Why we taking new orders? There's a lot of refunds and before we ordered like 100 keyboards and now we just have 50. I have to make up to 100 again to remain our orders.You've got my faith!
I believe there aren't any groupbuy runners willing to do refund like i do.Most of the groupbuy's money is already gone. Now i have to pay the new factory and give refund from my own pocket.
In the end of the day, i have take all the lost. Please give us some faith. I am not running off like my factory. We have been working hard for our brand and we cherish our brand too much.
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Hi guys, Now we are doing re-new orders and filling the open spots.
1, If you want to re-new buyer protection, please email to erduo.ear@gmail with you invoice number(4 digital number). I will send new invoice and refund your old ones.
2, Here's link for new orders. https://forms.gle/kRBe7yKvgT7CA7HR8
For Zer0.9 polycarbonate we will only take maxium 21 oders(to match refunded orders). I wont take anymore than that becasue we have put down this many orders to our new factory.
3, any problems please pm me here or find me on discord.
Thank you everyone for all your support.
Submitted a new order... Super excited for this.I am working on the new lead time, will update here as soon as i know it.
May we know what is the new lead time? Thanks.
Sorry, that howswap PCB is dead now, we have to re-design the plate for hotswap PCBs and that takes a lot of time(desgin+prototyping). Plus we aready super delayed for this so we decided not doing that.
Thank you so much for offering the buyer protection renewal! I'd like to think I speak for most, if not everyone. in the GB when I say we greatly appreciate everything you're doing to keep the GB alive while also thinking about the people in the GB.
Additionally, are there any updates on the hotswap PCB yet, and will you be offering the chance to switch to the hotswap instead of the non-hotswap? :D
Any further updates?
Still on track for March delivery?
Still on track for March delivery?We are facing at least one month delay because coronavirus in China. Factory will be back to work on 2March instead of 1st of Feb. And they cant make thing in full speed because not every worker will be back since there are some lockdown happened here. We are trying our best to make things happen ASAP. Thanks for your understanding.
Thanks for the update! Just stay safe!Still on track for March delivery?We are facing at least one month delay because coronavirus in China. Factory will be back to work on 2March instead of 1st of Feb. And they cant make thing in full speed because not every worker will be back since there are some lockdown happened here. We are trying our best to make things happen ASAP. Thanks for your understanding.
Still on track for March delivery?We are facing at least one month delay because coronavirus in China. Factory will be back to work on 2March instead of 1st of Feb. And they cant make thing in full speed because not every worker will be back since there are some lockdown happened here. We are trying our best to make things happen ASAP. Thanks for your understanding.
How's progress going, very excited for this board :D
will there be extras up for sale? :-XAfter everyone received their boards and nobody needs to replace any parts/damaged board during shipping. I will sell the extras here. Thanks
will there be extras up for sale? :-XAfter everyone received their boards and nobody needs to replace any parts/damaged board during shipping. I will sell the extras here. Thanks
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Got mine. Very nice packaging. Thanks for handling this GB so well despite having the first factory ghosted and ran away with your money.
I have my board, and it looks great. Already starting the build process.
Where can I download the software configurator?
Is there a way without the software--using the default keymap, I guess--to turn the LED brightness down or turn them off?
I tried to test the PCB, but it's burning my retinas to look at it. :)
Any news on extra polycarbonate keyboards? Interested in this one
Has anyone tried to fit a h87 or any other ask compatible pcb?
Has anyone tried to fit a h87 or any other ask compatible pcb?
h87c might work since it did work in EE version
As its christmas time - i really hope for a rerun / evolution soon :thumb: this is too greatHell yeah! I dont see any reason we wont do a second run for this.
As its christmas time - i really hope for a rerun / evolution soon :thumb: this is too greatHell yeah! I dont see any reason we wont do a second run for this.