[IC] GMK Plum | GB is OVER | New colour samples are in, and they are stunning.

[jessica]

I wanted to repost this from the massdrop comments to maybe get more attention and traction, granted it might be too late at this point.

Someone asked for 1u alt and ctrl keys to cover plank, which in turn made me think I will run into the same problem running this on my sentraq 65% that I'll be building.

Tldr: is it too late to ask for 1u r4 alt+ctrl keys?

TL;DR: Yes. R2 of Plum, should I decide to run it, will include this though!

[Theconejo]

I wanted to repost this from the massdrop comments to maybe get more attention and traction, granted it might be too late at this point.

Someone asked for 1u alt and ctrl keys to cover plank, which in turn made me think I will run into the same problem running this on my sentraq 65% that I'll be building.

Tldr: is it too late to ask for 1u r4 alt+ctrl keys?

TL;DR: Yes. R2 of Plum, should I decide to run it, will include this though!

Honestly I'm not too beat up about it. There are plenty of keys to fit the bill not to mention most 65% are programmable and it doesn't matter as I can set it to whatever I want.

Also nice job making this come together. It's the first set I've seen from pretty early inception to production and am humbled by your work and dedication to making sure the colors are just right. As someone who bought it based on the renders, thanks for not compromising.

[jessica]

I wanted to repost this from the massdrop comments to maybe get more attention and traction, granted it might be too late at this point.

Someone asked for 1u alt and ctrl keys to cover plank, which in turn made me think I will run into the same problem running this on my sentraq 65% that I'll be building.

Tldr: is it too late to ask for 1u r4 alt+ctrl keys?

TL;DR: Yes. R2 of Plum, should I decide to run it, will include this though!

Honestly I'm not too beat up about it. There are plenty of keys to fit the bill not to mention most 65% are programmable and it doesn't matter as I can set it to whatever I want.

Also nice job making this come together. It's the first set I've seen from pretty early inception to production and am humbled by your work and dedication to making sure the colors are just right. As someone who bought it based on the renders, thanks for not compromising.

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of. I would happily delay this set 4 months if it meant that the colours were just perfect.

[romevi]

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of.

But what about for all the people buying your keyset and making it a reality?

[chuckdee]

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of.

But what about for all the people buying your keyset and making it a reality?

They decide to support or not support given the full information provided, IMO.  If they support, and then things change and they don't have the chance to back out- that's a different story.  But that's not what happened here.

[romevi]

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of.

But what about for all the people buying your keyset and making it a reality?

They decide to support or not support given the full information provided, IMO.  If they support, and then things change and they don't have the chance to back out- that's a different story.  But that's not what happened here.

[chuckdee]

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of.

But what about for all the people buying your keyset and making it a reality?

They decide to support or not support given the full information provided, IMO.  If they support, and then things change and they don't have the chance to back out- that's a different story.  But that's not what happened here.

Just to be sure... I'm not advocating that people don't ask.  But in the end, there has to be one voice- and that's the designer, IMO.  People speak to the designers choices with their money- either supporting it as the designers vision lays out in the final estimation, or not.

[romevi]

Get to know me and you'll find that "compromise" isn't exactly a word I use too often; when I do, it's to mock people who believe in it.
I have incredibly strong convictions about things, and it's very very unlikely they'll change.
I use one keyboard layout (HHKB), I use one of two kinds of caps (GMK/OG Cherry and stock Topre. That's it), and I refuse to produce something I'm not proud of.

But what about for all the people buying your keyset and making it a reality?

They decide to support or not support given the full information provided, IMO.  If they support, and then things change and they don't have the chance to back out- that's a different story.  But that's not what happened here.

Just to be sure... I'm not advocating that people don't ask.  But in the end, there has to be one voice- and that's the designer, IMO.  People speak to the designers choices with their money- either supporting it as the designers vision lays out in the final estimation, or not.

[mniels]

Definitely V2 purple for me.


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[tofgerl]

Lighting is SO important when judging colors. Fact is that the light we use on our desks is probably going to count more towards your satisfaction with the final color than the actual color selected in any case.

That said, totes #2. Creamier!

[pomk]

As above, if you are asking for comments on the colors, please take pictures that are color correct. X-rite color checker (or similar) in the picture and lighting either outside, preferably on a cloudy day, or using cri 95+ light sources. Then either upload the raw files here from the camera, or use a professional editing tool chain for color correction before flattening the picture to 8bit sRGB. A potato pic from a cellphone is not very good for accurately assessing color nuances, and makes comparing the color of the caps to other items impossible for others. For example if I'd like to color match a paint to the caps, the above method would allow me to do that.

[mintyfruits]

Wow... that's one hell of a request!

[Giorgio]

As above, if you are asking for comments on the colors, please take pictures that are color correct. X-rite color checker (or similar) in the picture and lighting either outside, preferably on a cloudy day, or using cri 95+ light sources. Then either upload the raw files here from the camera, or use a professional editing tool chain for color correction before flattening the picture to 8bit sRGB. A potato pic from a cellphone is not very good for accurately assessing color nuances, and makes comparing the color of the caps to other items impossible for others. For example if I'd like to color match a paint to the caps, the above method would allow me to do that.

Now that I see the colors, I'm sorry that I didn't partecipate in this gb. Anyway, knowing how phography works, this is a very reasonable request.

[Owl-]

As above, if you are asking for comments on the colors, please take pictures that are color correct. X-rite color checker (or similar) in the picture and lighting either outside, preferably on a cloudy day, or using cri 95+ light sources. Then either upload the raw files here from the camera, or use a professional editing tool chain for color correction before flattening the picture to 8bit sRGB. A potato pic from a cellphone is not very good for accurately assessing color nuances, and makes comparing the color of the caps to other items impossible for others. For example if I'd like to color match a paint to the caps, the above method would allow me to do that.

Anyway, knowing how phography works, this is a very reasonable request.

I think it is too, but bare in mind a regular person will have to get some extra steps in with colour calibrating their monitor. A specialist colour calibrator cost money just to show accurate representation to someone. The modern device like a phone can take fairly alright accurate unmodified photos with decent lighting in this current age. If one is keen on colour accuracy, then I'm pretty sure one's screen is already regularly colour calibrated beforehand to view stuff on the web.

[Rayoui]

Not everybody has the kind of equipment and software just laying around to do this. I think the photos are good enough for a generalized idea. You can color match when they arrive so you can be sure everything is perfectly matched.

[jessica]

Figured I'd just end the conversation here:

The colours are good. The pictures convey well enough how the caps will look in the production run.
I'm not gonna spend an entire day just taking pictures and ****ing my way around something I don't really know anything about. The return on time investement is simply not worth it to me.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this one, and that the caps will look as close to the renders as you can get.

[pomk]

Figured I'd just end the conversation here:

The colours are good. The pictures convey well enough how the caps will look in the production run.
I'm not gonna spend an entire day just taking pictures and ****ing my way around something I don't really know anything about. The return on time investement is simply not worth it to me.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this one, and that the caps will look as close to the renders as you can get.

I trust your judgement on this and believe the set will look great, just please refrain from using superlatives if you don't mean them.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610929
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610988

You can't promise complete accuracy without spending a little time figuring out what that means.

[Oblotzky]

Figured I'd just end the conversation here:

The colours are good. The pictures convey well enough how the caps will look in the production run.
I'm not gonna spend an entire day just taking pictures and ****ing my way around something I don't really know anything about. The return on time investement is simply not worth it to me.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this one, and that the caps will look as close to the renders as you can get.

I trust your judgement on this and believe the set will look great, just please refrain from using superlatives if you don't mean them.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610929
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610988

You can't promise complete accuracy without spending a little time figuring out what that means.

She said the set will be accurate, not the photos of the color samples

[pomk]

Figured I'd just end the conversation here:

The colours are good. The pictures convey well enough how the caps will look in the production run.
I'm not gonna spend an entire day just taking pictures and ****ing my way around something I don't really know anything about. The return on time investement is simply not worth it to me.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this one, and that the caps will look as close to the renders as you can get.

I trust your judgement on this and believe the set will look great, just please refrain from using superlatives if you don't mean them.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610929
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610988

You can't promise complete accuracy without spending a little time figuring out what that means.

She said the set will be accurate, not the photos of the color samples

Yeah, true. I wonder how that is going to happen if she does not have the tools for comparing the colors in the same environment.

edit: sorry for the harsh tone on my posts. I was exited to hear her approach/method to the complete color accuracy, as that field is something that I'm interested in, and I'm a little disappointed to hear that the method was just 'eye balling it'.

[jessica]

Figured I'd just end the conversation here:

The colours are good. The pictures convey well enough how the caps will look in the production run.
I'm not gonna spend an entire day just taking pictures and ****ing my way around something I don't really know anything about. The return on time investement is simply not worth it to me.

You're just gonna have to trust me on this one, and that the caps will look as close to the renders as you can get.

I trust your judgement on this and believe the set will look great, just please refrain from using superlatives if you don't mean them.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610929
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-jessica-gmk-plum-custom-keycap-set/talk/1610988

You can't promise complete accuracy without spending a little time figuring out what that means.

She said the set will be accurate, not the photos of the color samples

Yeah, true. I wonder how that is going to happen if she does not have the tools for comparing the colors in the same environment.

edit: sorry for the harsh tone on my posts. I was exited to hear her approach/method to the complete color accuracy, as that field is something that I'm interested in, and I'm a little disappointed to hear that the method was just 'eye balling it'.

Sorry to disappoint, but I honestly didn't expect anyone to be pedantic about me making sure that the exact hex values are in line, instead of having it look how I think it should.
The set is gonna look like the renders, full stop.

Also, one thing on the topic: There are exactly zero physical examples of what Plum will look like outside of my colour samples, which only I and my mom have seen in person. It's all in my head, and I'm bringin it to life baby

[pomk]

No problem. I just thought that there was a fixed target for the colors as some of the renders were marked as color accurate. If you don't mind I can take some color accurate pictures (and post them here) once the sets arrive and then we can assess how accurate the renders were to your executed vision. 

[Giorgio]

maybe taking pictures in sunlight along a gray card could be enough

[a_ak57]

I mean realistically it doesn't matter because the sets will look however Jessica feels is best and the set will look different at various times anyway unless you keep it in a  room with 100% consistent lighting.

[tofgerl]

Guys, she's the only one who needs to see the colors correctly, since she's the one who decides them. Yes, it would be nice for us to see them, but what would it matter to us? We'll just have to wait until it's shipped. I'm looking forward to it

[Owl-]

maybe taking pictures in sunlight along a gray card could be enough

She doesn't need to do that, makes no different to her investing money on a colour calibrator, and she already stated she doesn't know any of these stuff/steps. I have a calibrated monitor and going by the photos supplied; she's got a good eye on the colour match from what I can see, the samples are very close to the sheet render.

You can all relax.

[jessica]

maybe taking pictures in sunlight along a gray card could be enough

She doesn't need to do that, makes no different to her investing money on a colour calibrator, and she already stated she doesn't know any of these stuff/steps. I have a calibrated monitor and going by the photos supplied; she's got a good eye on the colour match from what I can see, the samples are very close to the sheet render.

You can all relax.

I may have **** eyesight, and have had to wear glasses from age 3 to now, but colours are my ****in specialty.

[merintil]

Honestly, I think we can trust that the keycaps will match the vision of the creator. I personally won't make any judgments until I have the keycaps in my hands.

I liked the renders, and if Jessica believes that the keycaps are as close as it can possibly be to those renders, then I'll be happy. The sample photos look pretty good (though, I do admit I know nothing about color calibration).

[TheNamesTy45]

This escalated quickly, so here's a picture of my girlfriend's dog making a face at me.



... On a serious note though, fully trust that this set will be gorgeous. Can't wait to have it on my main board, thanks for putting in the work to make this awesome!

[chuckdee]

No problem. I just thought that there was a fixed target for the colors as some of the renders were marked as color accurate. If you don't mind I can take some color accurate pictures (and post them here) once the sets arrive and then we can assess how accurate the renders were to your executed vision. 

I just thought she meant that she made the renders based on the colors that she proposed, while theiscamper didn't have that advantage and took it from the images he saw in the renders, rather than what they should be specifically.  Go figure. 

[Owl-]

You guys heard her

[jessica]

No problem. I just thought that there was a fixed target for the colors as some of the renders were marked as color accurate. If you don't mind I can take some color accurate pictures (and post them here) once the sets arrive and then we can assess how accurate the renders were to your executed vision. 

I just thought she meant that she made the renders based on the colors that she proposed, while theiscamper didn't have that advantage and took it from the images he saw in the renders, rather than what they should be specifically.  Go figure. 

I worked with thesiscamper to make the renders look right, to me. I had no fixed hex codes or anything. Everything is fluid to get the colours right

[tofgerl]

That is the problem with custom mixed colors... That and shipping times between you and Germany, of course...

[jessica]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

[oatmicro]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

It's already 2nd April in my country!!

[Tally810]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

Don't scare me like that!

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[fublamchu]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

should've been WASD custom keycaps smh

[jessica]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

It's already 2nd April in my country!!

It's barely past noon here in America, so my meme stands.

[UsualSuspectXXX]

Update on GMK Plum:

Plum will no longer be produced by GMK, due to their backlog being exceptionally long. They have, however, recommended me to an alternative manufacturer who I think will exceed all expectations!

TaoHao, the brilliant designers of classics like TaiHao Miami, Sunset, and more, introduce TaiHao Plum. Made in brilliant doubleshot PBT with their specialty anti-biosis coating, I'm positive you're all gonna love it.

Thanks for the support, everyone!


_{april fools :^)}

=D I love April's fools

[jessica]

Hey all,

decided to frigg around and try to take better pictures of Plum. I've got some promising results of the purple. The yellow is hard to capture due to my room having tan walls and me having yellow light bulbs, so it either looks too washed out or too pale. I think the pics I posted before do the yellow justice enough.

Focus on literally just the purple, everything else is not accurate.
Lemme know what you all think

Without further ado...

[thatsmrdoctortoyou]

Looks great! It has that perfect 'muted' color, almost pastel. Love it! Thanks for the picture updates 

[Giorgio]

Did you really choose the muted purple? 

[pomk]

Hey all,

decided to frigg around and try to take better pictures of Plum. I've got some promising results of the purple. The yellow is hard to capture due to my room having tan walls and me having yellow light bulbs, so it either looks too washed out or too pale. I think the pics I posted before do the yellow justice enough.

Focus on literally just the purple, everything else is not accurate.
Lemme know what you all think

Without further ado...

You can get rid of the yellow cast easily by just having a piece of white paper in the picture and then instructing lightroom (or similar software) to calibrate ~90% white based on it. Best results would be had in natural light though.

[shower_king]

my preference is the upper pairs, especially the darker purple.
Anyway , appreciate and support your choice.

[Giorgio]

my preference is the upper pairs, especially the darker purple.
Anyway , appreciate and support your choice.

The dark purple is so majestic and sacred. Really a nice vibe.

[johuu]

Hey all,

decided to frigg around and try to take better pictures of Plum. I've got some promising results of the purple. The yellow is hard to capture due to my room having tan walls and me having yellow light bulbs, so it either looks too washed out or too pale. I think the pics I posted before do the yellow justice enough.

Focus on literally just the purple, everything else is not accurate.
Lemme know what you all think

Without further ado...

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I think the end product will look awesome. :thumb:

[nugglets]

my preference is the upper pairs, especially the darker purple.
Anyway , appreciate and support your choice.

The dark purple is so majestic and sacred. Really a nice vibe.

And yet not at all what the renders showed, and so not at all the vision of the creator.

I love the muted purple and it reflects the renders we've been shown from the very beginning.

edit with quick and dirty overlays of the purple in the latest pics with the renders. Using the darker purple would make this a completely different set IMO.

[Owl-]

Hey all,

decided to frigg around and try to take better pictures of Plum. I've got some promising results of the purple. The yellow is hard to capture due to my room having tan walls and me having yellow light bulbs, so it either looks too washed out or too pale. I think the pics I posted before do the yellow justice enough.

Focus on literally just the purple, everything else is not accurate.
Lemme know what you all think

Without further ado...

Show Image

If you take a photo of it on a grey background or some grey card beside it, I can correct it for you.

I like the final results :) Will you be getting any more samples provide from them? Or is this it and GMK will continue focusing on producing everything?

You can get rid of the yellow cast easily by just having a piece of white paper in the picture and then instructing lightroom (or similar software) to calibrate ~90% white based on it. Best results would be had in natural light though.

Not white, it's grey.

my preference is the upper pairs, especially the darker purple.
Anyway , appreciate and support your choice.

The dark purple is so majestic and sacred. Really a nice vibe.

And yet not at all what the renders showed, and so not at all the vision of the creator.

I love the muted purple and it reflects the renders we've been shown from the very beginning.

The renders by thesiscamper are unrealistic, so it's correct that it doesn't match that. His renders are only there to give a rough visual idea what this set looks like laid out on a keyboard. So don't make your comparison to his renders

[nugglets]

my preference is the upper pairs, especially the darker purple.
Anyway , appreciate and support your choice.

The dark purple is so majestic and sacred. Really a nice vibe.

And yet not at all what the renders showed, and so not at all the vision of the creator.

I love the muted purple and it reflects the renders we've been shown from the very beginning.

The renders by thesiscamper are unrealistic, so it's correct that it doesn't match that. His renders are only there to give a rough visual idea what this set looks like laid out on a keyboard. So don't make your comparison to his renders

The renders are listed specifically as "accurate colors" and were there to give buyers an idea of what the set was supposed to look like, according to Jessica. She stated several times that there was no "real" color she was using as a reference, just she knew what she wanted to accomplish and had the renders adjusted to show that.

 So, yes, I will use them as a comparison thank you very much =)

[Owl-]

The renders are listed specifically as "accurate colors" and were there to give buyers an idea of what the set was supposed to look like, according to Jessica. She stated several times that there was no "real" color she was using as a reference, just she knew what she wanted to accomplish and had the renders adjusted to show that.

 So, yes, I will use them as a comparison thank you very much =)

Yeah, they're close to accurate but the renders have been enhanced in unrealistic high dynamic lighting which is not real. Again, it's only there as a close visual.

[TheNamesTy45]

Hey all,

decided to frigg around and try to take better pictures of Plum. I've got some promising results of the purple. The yellow is hard to capture due to my room having tan walls and me having yellow light bulbs, so it either looks too washed out or too pale. I think the pics I posted before do the yellow justice enough.

Focus on literally just the purple, everything else is not accurate.
Lemme know what you all think

Without further ado...

Show Image

I'm a fan of the choice here! Great job!