[GB] DGL TKL keyboard | Closed

[chanmin kang]

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DGL TKL
by Chanmin Kang

Thanks to many people who helped me to get this to GB, starting with IC.

Interest Check post


Features
 - Luxurious and original design keyboard
 - Sandwich-mount
 - Indicator LEDs
 - Centered USB Type-C Port
 - Pointed plate or Brass weight
 - RGB point strip located at the bottom of the front
 - 4T (4mm) plate for quiet and uniform typing feels
 - QMK supported PCB
 - 20mm height from the front
 - Supports both ANSI and ISO layouts

Included
Case
 - CNC machining 606X aluminum case
 - Approx. 3 kg weight
 - Sandwich-mount
 - 7-degree typing angle
 - Plates, PCBs and point plates can be purchased additionally
 - Top and bottom can be ordered in two-tone colors differently.

Plate
 - Cherry MX switch support (Alps compatible plates will be released later)
 - The 4mm thick plate provides a more stable switch holding and uniform typing experience.
 - There are three plates. Brass, FR4, aluminum
 - The FR4 plate includes a 2.4mm gasket to match the thickness.
 - The brass plate is made of a precision CO2 laser and has a deburring finish.

Weight / Point Plate
 - Add color points at the bottom of the keyboard.
 - If you want, you can choose brass weight option

PC Diffuser
 - sandblasted Polycarbonate diffuser makes the RGB strip located in front of the keyboard look more natural.
 - If you don't like RGB light, you can use brass bar instead of PC diffuser.

PCB
 - QMK firmware Support
 - Cherry MX / Alps SKCM compatible
 - All SMD components are pre-soldered in the factory.
 - Switch, indicator LED, switch LED (Optional) soldering required

Spring
 - For buyers only, we offer 90 compatible springs for Cherry MX for free.
 - You can choose between 50g, 57g, 64g, and 71g.
 - This spring, which we have produced, has passed the Vertical Profile Test, Lubricative Test, Surface Roughness Test.
 - We put a lot of effort into this spring, and it's made very precisely. The spring has an error rate of ±0.5 g. It is glossy and upright when compared to other springs.


Support layout


Options
Top Case type
 - Standard (ANSI / ISO)
 - Winkeyless (ANSI / ISO)


Top color / Bottom color / Point plate color
 - Anodizing: Black, Gray, Silver, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green, Rose gold, Champagne gold
 - Cerakote™: White, Beige, Gray, Pink, Navy, Yellow

Plate color / material
 - Aluminium: Black, Gray, Silver, Red, Orange gold, Metal Green, Rose gold, Champagne gold
 - Brass
 - FR4 (with Gasket)

Pricing

 - Base kit - $450 (Anodizing, Cerakoat™ charges additional cost depending on the option)
 - Extra PCB - $40
 - Extra Plate - $45

Includes in Basekit (Anodizing Option)
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Top Case (Standard or WKL)
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Bottom Case
 - 1x 606X Aluminium 4T Cherry MX Plate
 - 1x 606X Aluminium Back connector guide Part (black)
 - 1x Sandblasted clear acrylic diffuser
 - 1x DGL-80 PCB
 - 1x DGL Spring pack (for Cherry mx, 90pcs)
※Can be modified as desired in the above configuration (additional cost incurred)
※Shipping charges are not included and the price varies depending on the destination.

Where Can I Order?
https://forms.gle/pavD31V1FnqeJPxF6
Order Closed


Timeline
Group Buy will be open 2020.05.15 - 2020.05.31 ( 16 days )
It will be manufactured and packaged from June 1 to September 30, and shipped worldwide from October 1.

If you place an order, You will receive it at the end of September.
We will do our best to meet the schedule.
But we don't know exactly what will happen in the future.
If there is a delay in the delivery schedule due to unavoidable reasons, we will notify you quickly.


Gallery

holypanda + DGL custom spring
GMK white on black

Click here to see more photos

This is a picture of DGL TKL's 4T plate. It's thick, making the switch more stable.

This is the picture sent by the users who purchased our product before.

UPDATE

01-June-2020

The order period is over.
We are organizing order history, address, options selected, etc.
The actual production will begin on June 4th. If anyone hasn't paid yet, please complete all payments by June 3rd.
Whenever there is a new update, the will be added here.

[HoffmanMyster]

Approved

[aslanxdeft]

The form seems to be closed 

[logo4poop]

The form seems to be closed 

Its running on the 15th.

[DukeEsquire]

The form seems to be closed 

Look at what date it opens.

[ephemeral25]

Do I need another TKL?

Me: No

Will this be added to my collection?

Me: Yes
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What the the grammage of the spring refers to? Bottom out or actuation?
Is it possible to get more of those springs like as an extra?
Do you have any other videos of the keyboards ?

[brohothepirate]

Where can we check the colors?

[chanmin kang]

Do I need another TKL?

Me: No

Will this be added to my collection?

Me: Yes
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What the the grammage of the spring refers to? Bottom out or actuation?
Is it possible to get more of those springs like as an extra?
Do you have any other videos of the keyboards ?

 - This is the pressure notation when the spring is pressed all the way down.

 - This precision spring has high production price. So We didn't make this spring for sale all the time. we won't always be selling it.
You can order additional springs only with your keyboard order.

Look at the comparison picture of our spring.


 - We want to post more videos, but we are moving our office. Soon after the move is complete, I will post a video with the environment.

[chanmin kang]

Where can we check the colors?

Since the number of keyboards we make varies, and the number of available colors continues to increase, we cannot show samples for all colors.

I'll post some photos. but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are new colors, so please understand that there are no samples yet.


 - The case in the photo above is anodized. The weight is made of cerakote



- -This is an example of a pink cerakote color.


 - Here is an example of a gray anodizing top.


 - It is an example of navy and beige.



 - Color example of orange gold anodizing

[brohothepirate]

Where can we check the colors?

Since the number of keyboards we make varies, and the number of available colors continues to increase, we cannot show samples for all colors.

I'll post some photos. but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are new colors, so please understand that there are no samples yet.

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 - The case in the photo above is anodized. The weight is made of cerakote

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- -This is an example of a pink cerakote color.

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 - Here is an example of a gray anodizing top.

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 - It is an example of navy and beige.

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 - Color example of orange gold anodizing

Great, but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are the colors I'm mainly interested in (and Pink) so would you have any way I can see the colors (even if not samples) before you close the GB?

[chanmin kang]

Where can we check the colors?

Since the number of keyboards we make varies, and the number of available colors continues to increase, we cannot show samples for all colors.

I'll post some photos. but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are new colors, so please understand that there are no samples yet.

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 - The case in the photo above is anodized. The weight is made of cerakote

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- -This is an example of a pink cerakote color.

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 - Here is an example of a gray anodizing top.

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 - It is an example of navy and beige.

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 - Color example of orange gold anodizing

Great, but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are the colors I'm mainly interested in (and Pink) so would you have any way I can see the colors (even if not samples) before you close the GB?

These three colors were not planned, but were added due to suggestions from IC. If we have a chance, we will try to show you the sample.

[TieuNgu]

Where can we check the colors?

Since the number of keyboards we make varies, and the number of available colors continues to increase, we cannot show samples for all colors.

I'll post some photos. but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are new colors, so please understand that there are no samples yet.

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 - The case in the photo above is anodized. The weight is made of cerakote

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- -This is an example of a pink cerakote color.

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 - Here is an example of a gray anodizing top.

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 - It is an example of navy and beige.

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 - Color example of orange gold anodizing

Great, but Champagne Gold, Rose Gold, and Cerakoat Yellow are the colors I'm mainly interested in (and Pink) so would you have any way I can see the colors (even if not samples) before you close the GB?

These three colors were not planned, but were added due to suggestions from IC. If we have a chance, we will try to show you the sample.

If you know the name of those particular cerakote colors, you can find sample pictures on the official website: https://www.cerakote.com/

[cosign_input]

Can we get photos of the PCB and also more explicit information of the two-tone cases? Also, please show us some photos of the assembly of the TKL.

[chanmin kang]

Can we get photos of the PCB and also more explicit information of the two-tone cases? Also, please show us some photos of the assembly of the TKL.

This keyboard is a TKL keyboard from the beginning.
And you can make two-tone by combining different colors of top and bottom. Many photos are like this.

For PCB, we will upload detailed photos soon. We don't have a lot of PCBs in stock, so we're going to show you a picture of the existing inventory. New PCBs for GB may have some changes.

[chanmin kang]

The GB Order page has opened!

You can participate in the following links: https://forms.gle/3zkVpRaiQ2fykpBu6

[cosign_input]

Can you explain these two videos with these two individuals having DGL TKL's already? Are these prototypes?

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[Captain Shwah]

Can you explain these two videos with these two individuals having DGL TKL's already? Are these prototypes?

It seems to have been run in Korea already, this is the western GB.

[IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES]

Dumb question: is shipping added at this step (ie 450+ship), or do we get invoiced later when the boards are ready to ship?

[neon_tom]

You mention Alps plates will be released later. Any additional details on that? Specifics around the plate materials/thickness (assume not 4mm) or timeframe?

[sctang]

Any renders or pics of the WKL version? Or did I miss it somewhere

[chanmin kang]

Dumb question: is shipping added at this step (ie 450+ship), or do we get invoiced later when the boards are ready to ship?

When you complete the form, we will send you a PayPal invoice with shipping to your country of residence.

[chanmin kang]

Any renders or pics of the WKL version? Or did I miss it somewhere

WKL only received small orders. So we only made a small amount.
we have sent all the inventory we have made, we currently do not have any.
Instead, we are preparing to render a WKL version, so please be patient.

[chanmin kang]

You mention Alps plates will be released later. Any additional details on that? Specifics around the plate materials/thickness (assume not 4mm) or timeframe?

We are currently designing alps plates. If there are no special problems, it will keep the thickness of 4mm. PCBs are available in both Cherry and Alps.

[Chubaka]

Is there any way you can share more pictures of various top and bottom case color combinations, and give descriptions of the colors used?

Also, I just want to make sure, the "point plate" is the weight? I'm not sure what "adding color points" means. Thanks in advance!

[chanmin kang]

Is there any way you can share more pictures of various top and bottom case color combinations, and give descriptions of the colors used?

Also, I just want to make sure, the "point plate" is the weight? I'm not sure what "adding color points" means. Thanks in advance!

The point plate goes under the keyboard.
It's commonly referred to as 'weight', but it's an option for those who don't want the keyboard to get heavier and who want to use aluminum plates made of different colors instead of weight.

In short, it is a weight using aluminum.

[Chubaka]

Is there any way you can share more pictures of various top and bottom case color combinations, and give descriptions of the colors used?

Also, I just want to make sure, the "point plate" is the weight? I'm not sure what "adding color points" means. Thanks in advance!

The point plate goes under the keyboard.
It's commonly referred to as 'weight', but it's an option for those who don't want the keyboard to get heavier and who want to use aluminum plates made of different colors instead of weight.

In short, it is a weight using aluminum.

Understood, thank you!

[neon_tom]

You mention Alps plates will be released later. Any additional details on that? Specifics around the plate materials/thickness (assume not 4mm) or timeframe?

We are currently designing alps plates. If there are no special problems, it will keep the thickness of 4mm. PCBs are available in both Cherry and Alps.

Will the Alps plates be available during the GB period or only after? I’ve been waiting for an Alps TKL kit and this looks perfect, but I don’t want to buy a kit now on the hope that Alps plates will become available at some point.

[Mearaz]

I am looking to make a dasher theme with this keyboard but I am not sure how dark the navy blue is gonna be. Any chance you got a side by side picture of the cerakote navy and white?

[tdris]

This is sooooo nice. I have a quick Q. I plan to be moving addresses in a few months, would it be possible to get my address changed after I order this! Thanks in advanced!

[cjt9000]

I'll take one Diggle Tickle in Wickle please

[chanmin kang]

I am looking to make a dasher theme with this keyboard but I am not sure how dark the navy blue is gonna be. Any chance you got a side by side picture of the cerakote navy and white?

I think our office will be normalized in about two days. I'll upload the picture soon!

[Mearaz]

I am looking to make a dasher theme with this keyboard but I am not sure how dark the navy blue is gonna be. Any chance you got a side by side picture of the cerakote navy and white?

I think our office will be normalized in about two days. I'll upload the picture soon!

Great! Does the "Back connector guide Part" only come in black?

[Dior]

Im interested in this kit as a first TKL. really digging the set

EDIT: i cant read obv/ answered my own question

[chanmin kang]

I am looking to make a dasher theme with this keyboard but I am not sure how dark the navy blue is gonna be. Any chance you got a side by side picture of the cerakote navy and white?

I think our office will be normalized in about two days. I'll upload the picture soon!

Great! Does the "Back connector guide Part" only come in black?

Yes, as of now.

[cosign_input]

I've tried modifying my order. The invoice number is #0012

[瓦布10312]

Whether GMK SCREW-IN STABILISERS can be used？

[chanmin kang]

I've tried modifying my order. The invoice number is #0012

I confirmed your modify.

If it is a minor modification that does not require a change in the invoice, it is okay not to notify us until the end of GB. We will gather all the information at the end of the order. We set Form as modifiable for that.

[need4keeb]

What size is the space bar? And are Durock
Screw in stabilizers compatible with this? Thank you.

[JDMFanatic]

Is there a way that I could order two different colored tops?

[chanmin kang]

Is there a way that I could order two different colored tops?

Yes, it's possible. There will be an additional charge and please leave this information when you order.

[chanmin kang]

Whether GMK SCREW-IN STABILISERS can be used？

What size is the space bar? And are Durock
Screw in stabilizers compatible with this? Thank you.

The PCB and casing are designed for standard cherry stabilizer. Third-party products such as screw-in stabilizer are available, but may need to be partially sanded.

[HesterDW]

What color is this?

[appallingpaul]

Any chance we can see photos of the newly added colors? Specifically the anodized ones?

[chanmin kang]

What color is this?

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It is an anodizing gray.

[chanmin kang]

Any chance we can see photos of the newly added colors? Specifically the anodized ones?

We ordered a new color anodizing from the factory. But  their previous work is not finished yet.

We are currently waiting, We will update the anodizing sample as soon as it arrives to us. we also want to show new colors quickly!

[Steelwind]

Good evening chanmin kang. I wanted to ask you something about the invoice you've sent me, will I still be able to pay for it tomorrow or when it says that the due date is may 25th, I have to get a new invoice ?
Thanks in advance. If you need the invoice number, I can give it to you.

[chanmin kang]

Good evening chanmin kang. I wanted to ask you something about the invoice you've sent me, will I still be able to pay for it tomorrow or when it says that the due date is may 25th, I have to get a new invoice ?
Thanks in advance. If you need the invoice number, I can give it to you.

The payment deadline is June 3rd. If it is processed before that, there is no problem.

[M4dn3ss]

You mention Alps plates will be released later. Any additional details on that? Specifics around the plate materials/thickness (assume not 4mm) or timeframe?

We are currently designing alps plates. If there are no special problems, it will keep the thickness of 4mm. PCBs are available in both Cherry and Alps.

Will the Alps plates be available during the GB period or only after? I’ve been waiting for an Alps TKL kit and this looks perfect, but I don’t want to buy a kit now on the hope that Alps plates will become available at some point.

Seconding this. What is the ETA on Alps plates?

[Steelwind]

Hello chanmin kang,

first of all, thank you for your information, I have paid for your invoice since I really love your board

second, I would like to know the width and depth where you insert the USB type C cable please ? I have purchased a cable with 12mm (0.47") of width and 6mm (0.24") of depth, will it fit just fine or not really ?

[chanmin kang]

You mention Alps plates will be released later. Any additional details on that? Specifics around the plate materials/thickness (assume not 4mm) or timeframe?

We are currently designing alps plates. If there are no special problems, it will keep the thickness of 4mm. PCBs are available in both Cherry and Alps.

Will the Alps plates be available during the GB period or only after? I’ve been waiting for an Alps TKL kit and this looks perfect, but I don’t want to buy a kit now on the hope that Alps plates will become available at some point.

Seconding this. What is the ETA on Alps plates?

Samples of the Alps plate are scheduled for about a week later.

[chanmin kang]

The order period ended without any problems. It's all over until just a little grace period.

If you have not paid yet, you will be given a period until June 3.

The payment must be completed before June 4th will be processed normally. Failure to complete before June 4th will result in the cancellation of the invoice and cancellation of the order.

We are organizing the completed order. We will update the new content on June 4th! Please wait!

[Doip]

Is there a way to see my form after submission?

[notverriegod]

Can we get a viewable spreadsheet so we can see what our submissions are?

[chanmin kang]

Is there a way to see my form after submission?

Please send DM or email!

[JDMFanatic]

I have sent PMs and Emails, but my invoice still doesnt have the right amount on it.

[cosign_input]

Will there be updates on the production process on your site in English or through a newsletter?

[chanmin kang]

I have sent PMs and Emails, but my invoice still doesnt have the right amount on it.

Would you please send an email to kkingkkongworks@gmail.com
I think something was wrong.

[chanmin kang]

Will there be updates on the production process on your site in English or through a newsletter?

Yes, the update will be sent to the email you entered when placing your order. Of course, you can also see it in GB threads.

[chanmin kang]

This image is a rendering of the FR4 plate.
We are pleased to announce that FR4 plates are being produced.

Sorry for the delayed update via email. There is a problem with the address book, so I will send it to you soon.

[dangboy]

never been turned on by a plate before

[Steelwind]

Good evening chanmin kang,

Could you please check your PM about my request please ? thank you in advance.

[chanmin kang]

FR4 plate has arrived. Made with black plates, such as rendering. Here is a picture.

[dangboy]

 

[notverriegod]

Hey was wondering if you got my reply for changing the springs and shipping address?

[Steelwind]

Hello chanmin kang, could you check my message as well please ? thanks in advance and have a great day and weekend.

[chanmin kang]

The rear connector part has been machined.
As you know, DGL takes a long time to manufacture because there are many parts.

We decided to make more frequent updates. I will update it if there are any simple changes.

[chanmin kang]

We will inform you about the progress of production so far.

Bottom Case : 30%

Top Case : 50%

Plate : 50%

Point plate (Weight) : 59%

Front Diffuser : 20%

Back Connect Part : 100%

PCB : 100%


In the Bottom case, 10 units have been completed in advance, and the above progress is the rest.

So far, about 15 have been produced and will be shipped in early October.

[cosign_input]

Can we get photos of the PCB?

[chanmin kang]

The DGL Top Case is scheduled to be completed this week.

[chanmin kang]

DGL TKL's WKL Top Case has been completed.
 

[notverriegod]

do we know if we're still on track for an eta of October?

[chanmin kang]

[uberkiwi]

looking good! 

[chanmin kang]

This is a photo of the top case processed. It was filmed at the factory yesterday.

[dangboy]

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Oh wow. What board is the one up front here? That doesn't look like a DGL TKL. Those bezels are thiiiiiccccccc, I love it.

[Tree_]

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Oh wow. What board is the one up front here? That doesn't look like a DGL TKL. Those bezels are thiiiiiccccccc, I love it.

From forum posts on their site, I think it's called 4K87 and they ran it last year.

[Curin Derwin]

Hi there, when can I purchase ALPs plates? Can I modify a CherryMX plate order to an ALPs order? Thank you!

[chanmin kang]

we are currently in the sandblasting process.

[dangboy]

 

[chanmin kang]

Please note that most of the process has gone into finishing.
When the production is finished now, Sandblast and anodizing/cerakoat remain.

[dangboy]

About a week until the original projected finish line, but based on the 660 group buy I'm assuming we can expect some delays.

Any updates?

[chanmin kang]

[lovidore]

So Chanmin,

Are you ever going to respond to the 660 GB thread or are you going to continue posting pictures with no context?

[Steelwind]

seems like we'll never get it before 2021 eh ?

[Steelwind]

asked for a refund. Don't want to gamble my hard earned money to a person that doesn't even answer any pm from here or his other gb, the 660.

[chanmin kang]

This is almost done now.
















Please check your email.

[Curin Derwin]

I want to make mention of something here: it does not sit well that the springs that were sent early to buyers for "early review" were placed in the shipment line for tracking on the invoice. It also does not sit well that the tracking number of my package does not match the tracking number placed inside of the PayPal invoice. I think it's dishonest to mark the invoice shipped days after payment for a minor item in a larger project. It also requires an explanation to case investigators should someone seek to file a dispute claim.

I petition that marking early shipments of minor items on a major order on PayPal invoices is, moving forward, a flag for review. This is not buyer-centric and highly sus'.

[Steelwind]

I just received my refund from paypal, I absolutely recommend you all do the same so you won't have to wait 1 or 2 years before receiving either the keyboard or the refund tbh. I don't like how he handled it tbh, too much red flag from this GB and his other gb.

[hottrout]

Would there still be a way to buy one of these when they are complete?  I really wanted one to remake a DEC VT100 keyboard replica.

[Tree_]

Would there still be a way to buy one of these when they are complete?  I really wanted one to remake a DEC VT100 keyboard replica.

Have you been reading this thread or the thread for his other incomplete GB (Kkingkkong 660)?

Most buyers have either submitted a Paypal dispute and successfully received a refund without any reply from the GB runner or are holding out for updates until as close to the dispute deadline as possible. Chanmin has vanished: Doesn't reply here, doesn't reply on Discord, doesn't reply to emails - I'd be surprised if either of his boards get shipped.

[hottrout]

I had been reading but I did not realize that there was zero communication.  Seems very odd given that he appears to have manufactured a lot of parts at the very least.  I hope he reappears at some point.

[Andriko]

This is almost done now.

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Please check your email.

The discord link I received in my email expired before I could join, after emailing back and pming on geekhack I received no response, please respond to my post, via email, or geekhack pm or I will request a refund from PayPal

[Noveltty]

chanmin kang start new GB on Korean channel

[cosign_input]

yikes

[dangboy]

Still bummed this turned out to be a scam. Was really looking forward to it. Someone steal borrow this design without the prolapse usb port and take my money again plz

[kajahtaa]

was this the person as lsoelxi?

[Andriko]

Still bummed this turned out to be a scam. Was really looking forward to it. Someone steal borrow this design without the prolapse usb port and take my money again plz

Did you get your money back?

[dangboy]

Still bummed this turned out to be a scam. Was really looking forward to it. Someone steal borrow this design without the prolapse usb port and take my money again plz

Did you get your money back?

Every last penny. hopefully everyone disputed before it was too late