[IC] Red on white sp double-shots?

[Acanthophis]

Maybe someone could illustrate isotherm on a full set? I think that could look quite good.

[thegunner100]

I'm working on this set right now. Order thread goes up tomorrow if Melissa replies to my emails.

Font choice?

Helvetica or Futura.

[Acanthophis]

Yeah, that's the font I meant, ripster.

[Ragnorock]

I'm just going to use comic sans and troll all of you.

Also I'm holding off on announcing exactly what it is going to be until I put the thread up, since I'm not sure what Melissa is willing to do and isn't, but it'll be fairly similar to the original set:
http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?31627-Red-Alert-base-set-170keys

But most likely on PBT and structured just like the Ragnarok GB in terms of base set + add ons. I'm also changing the way I price things out so there should be less complaints of profit mongering. >.>

[Choi Young Gyoo]

i want white-blue color more

[Acanthophis]

Because you already have an original RA set?


Is the contrast of SP's dyesubs the same as their doubleshot?

[Zehkul]

But most likely on PBT and structured just like the Ragnarok GB in terms of base set + add ons.

Great! I’m really interested in what the low quantity prices will look like. Maybe you can mention to her that China doesn’t have MOQs and still nice prices? xD

Is the contrast of SP's dyesubs the same as their doubleshot?

Dye sublimation never has the same contrast. The colors are great, but it’s a bit fuzzy at the edges. It still feels way better and is more durable.

[yearn4]

Heres one with slightly darker mods then:

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I still like the pure white keys...they look sooooo nice :bounce:

yess i love grey modifiers

[Ragnorock]

Dunno about you guys, but the contrast on my dye subs is just as good as that on my doubleshots... but that's my opinion. If we do DS we have to pay a bunch in sorting fees that we didn't have to near as much in the Ragnarok GB because we got lucky.

Also this is going to have 200-300 sets ordered. Its going to be huge.

[tsangan]

Definitely dyesubs

[demik]

enough doubleshots, about time a good pbt set comes around.

also, double check with melissa if they can do better on the spacebar.

[Ragnorock]

Do better how? It won't be PBT because it bows too much and doesn't work. If you're talking about color matching I'm obviously going to ask for the closest match to it. Also the white is the same white from Nyancat, Portal etc that we've been using.

[Acanthophis]

Yes, a flat PBT spacebar is a must. Or at least matching ABS.
This set should be close perfection (at least that's the dream)

[demik]

color matching.

if their pbt white is similar/exactly like their abs white.

don't want the same thing that happened to kl's set to happen to this one. even thought it is just white.. better to double check, no?

[tsangan]

Just ABS is fine, since it's white it should be easy match

[demik]

i blame SP.

they told kl what color to use that they could match to the PBT set.

[thegunner100]

Yes, a flat PBT spacebar is a must. Or at least matching ABS.
This set should be close perfection (at least that's the dream)

Seriously, no more sharp spacebars please...

[tsangan]

Seriously, no more sharp spacebars please...

This probably can't be helped, but I know exactly what you mean

[tjweir]

I'm in for a set if either Helvetica or the Cherry replica font is used.

[jdcarpe]

I really want this set. Red modifiers. Colors should be RA on WFK. Standard WYSE font. Ragnorock, make it happen!

[Ragnorock]

Well until this thread I had no intention of doing red modifiers AND grey modifiers- I had only planned on doing red on grey. Depending on the counts, we may do more add ons than I originally intended (red num row and/or modifiers.)

[MMB]

Red modifiers.

This, please.

[MMB]

Well until this thread I had no intention of doing red modifiers AND grey modifiers- I had only planned on doing red on grey. Depending on the counts, we may do more add ons than I originally intended (red num row and/or modifiers.)

Please do red. This just looks amazing, and we don't have to copy verbatim, the RA set.

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[tsangan]

Well until this thread I had no intention of doing red modifiers AND grey modifiers- I had only planned on doing red on grey. Depending on the counts, we may do more add ons than I originally intended (red num row and/or modifiers.)

red on white and red on grey will work
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white on red will not, you cannot dyesub white onto red

My suggestion keep it with grey and do it dyesub

Also if you're looking for white/red that is coming out soon via keyboardstory/kbdmania for us to buy, so why make something that we KNOW is coming out

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products

[hashbaz]

I love the red modifiers.  Though I think I would rather have PBT.

[thegunner100]

I love the red modifiers.  Though I think I would rather have PBT.

Agreed... pbt's the way to go!

[MMB]

Also if you're looking for white/red that is coming out soon via keyboardstory/kbdmania for us to buy, so why make something that we KNOW is coming out

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products

Where do you see this? Where are the sample pieces?

[jdcarpe]

No, no... No PBT dyesubs. Imsto sells those all day. Red legends on white DS with red modifiers, WYSE font, please! I call it the Klaxon set!!! I was about to post an IC thread for just that set, myself.

[nntnam]

Now, it should be the time for PBT dyesub. My suggestion is:

1/ A base set with grey modifiers.

2/ A add-on kit contains red or white modifiers (and everything else we want?!)

3/ Using helvetica.

P/s: I don't support the idea using white/red color scheme much. Because it may make the set look like red & cream cheese set?!!

[Nask]

Woot, a kind of a new red-alert keycaps, sure I'll be part of this group buy.

[bavman]

Red mods FTW

[jdcarpe]

Here you go for all those wanting red legends on white PBT dyesubs, with grey modifiers:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group

Why would we do a group buy for these? Just to get them for less than $86 plus shipping? Thegunner100 did a mini-GB for these to save on shipping to the US.

I know these would be similar to the Cream Cheese & Whatever color sets, but honestly, there are only so many ways you can change these layouts. Contrasting the alphanum keys with the modifiers is about the only way to do it. And red/white seems to be a popular choice right now.

We have had Dolch replicas, Space Cadet replicas, Miami Vice-inspired sets, etc. We could do a WYSE replica set, but that is for another IC. These would be similar to the RA set, but different enough to be unique. I have some other ideas, but I will wait to share them until some of these GB's calm down. My wallet can't take much more at this point.

[mkawa]

i don't really like red modifiers; too gaudy. but, i also don't see what would distinguish this set with grey modifiers from imsto's. i think this is where we should get creative. maybe a particularly adventurous font and symbol set? targeted use of non-white/grey keys within the layout? mixing in some copacetic key colors? (non-primaries!)

i also vote dye sub PBT for whatever this becomes. there have been enough DS sets lately, and the next major DS set should be the dolch replicas w/ cherry font.

[1391401]

How about this vs red mods?
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I guess it could be darker actually

Would buy

[tobr1an]

Looking really nice!

[Ragnorock]

Here you go for all those wanting red legends on white PBT dyesubs, with grey modifiers:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group

Why would we do a group buy for these? Just to get them for less than $86 plus shipping? Thegunner100 did a mini-GB for these to save on shipping to the US.

I know these would be similar to the Cream Cheese & Whatever color sets, but honestly, there are only so many ways you can change these layouts. Contrasting the alphanum keys with the modifiers is about the only way to do it. And red/white seems to be a popular choice right now.

We have had Dolch replicas, Space Cadet replicas, Miami Vice-inspired sets, etc. We could do a WYSE replica set, but that is for another IC. These would be similar to the RA set, but different enough to be unique. I have some other ideas, but I will wait to share them until some of these GB's calm down. My wallet can't take much more at this point.

Umm, I don't see anywhere in that thread where it confirms that he is selling those. There is a huge demand for this set, so obviously he isn't delivering the goods people want.

[jdcarpe]

images of dyesub 105keys could found here

the price is 86$   only blue and red available.
blank ones 59$
express shipping  25$        arrive in 7 days after shipping
post office shipping 15$        arrive at about 20 days later, maybe more.

Basically saying that those two colors of legends are available on his round 1 style PBT dyesubs. White with grey modifiers. If you follow the link there, and then follow DanGWanG's link in the 2nd post of that thread, you get to imsto's taobao page where it shows images of those sets with red or blue legends.

For reference, imsto is referring to these keycaps: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=14125887532

So just for clarification, these keycaps are a full 104-set and we can get them in blue, red, green, purple and yellow text with the keycap color as classic beige, correct?

[demik]

Here you go for all those wanting red legends on white PBT dyesubs, with grey modifiers:

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30405-round-2-dyesub-105-and-105-rainbow-jelly-keycaps-group

Why would we do a group buy for these? Just to get them for less than $86 plus shipping? Thegunner100 did a mini-GB for these to save on shipping to the US.

I know these would be similar to the Cream Cheese & Whatever color sets, but honestly, there are only so many ways you can change these layouts. Contrasting the alphanum keys with the modifiers is about the only way to do it. And red/white seems to be a popular choice right now.

We have had Dolch replicas, Space Cadet replicas, Miami Vice-inspired sets, etc. We could do a WYSE replica set, but that is for another IC. These would be similar to the RA set, but different enough to be unique. I have some other ideas, but I will wait to share them until some of these GB's calm down. My wallet can't take much more at this point.

reasons to go with sp:

a) we can pick the font we want
b) most of us have SP keycaps that will fit the same profile
c) white capslock..really?
d) iso set, tsangan set etc etc
e) more whites to pick from
f) non crappy PBT spacebar.

i mean, you guys are welcomed to do white on red or w/e sets you want. but this is specifically for a similar to red alert set.

[jdcarpe]

because

a) we can pick the font we want
b) most of us have SP keycaps that will fit the same profile
c) white capslock..really?
d) iso set, tsangan set etc etc
e) more whites to pick from
f) non crappy PBT spacebar.

Okay. Good points, all. And I agree with most of them. I'm just out if these are dyesubs, and in if doubleshot with red modifiers. My fingers just aren't that picky when it comes to PBT or ABS, especially when you can only get white on red (or any other color) with doubleshots, not dyesubs

i mean, you guys are welcomed to do white on red or w/e sets you want. but this is specifically for a similar to red alert set.

I thought that's what this thread was: Thread: [IC] Red on white sp double-shots?

[WorldExclusive]

Umm, I don't see anywhere in that thread where it confirms that he is selling those. There is a huge demand for this set, so obviously he isn't delivering the goods people want.

I'm just waiting for your pending Red Alert GB.

[bavman]

I feel like we should run these as double-shots just cause they good and we can satisfy everyone who wants different mods/styles

[demik]

Okay. Good points, all. And I agree with most of them. I'm just out if these are dyesubs, and in if doubleshot with red modifiers. My fingers just aren't that picky when it comes to PBT or ABS, especially when you can only get white on red (or any other color) with doubleshots, not dyesubs



I thought that's what this thread was: Thread: [IC] Red on white sp double-shots?

i was talking about the guy that wanted to do an inverse set.. which made no sense o.O

[bavman]

i was talking about the guy that wanted to do an inverse set.. which made no sense o.O

Just for the modifiers cause it gives it more style

[jdcarpe]

i was talking about the guy that wanted to do an inverse set.. which made no sense o.O

Yeah, I don't think there's much interest in a complete white legend on red set. Maybe 1.

[tsangan]

Once again keyboard story will have red and white done in August joint project with kbdmania, so i dont know why you guys are asking to do something that is getting done already

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
they 3 sets, red/white blue/white and green/white

[nntnam]

Once again keyboard story will have red and white done in August joint project with kbdmania, so i dont know why you guys are asking to do something that is getting done already

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
they 3 sets, red/white blue/white and green/white

Agree, we should have sthing differently. I'll vote for PBT dyesbub & helvetica :behindsofa:

[Wraul]

Yeah, I don't think there's much interest in a complete white legend on red set. Maybe 1.

I would definitely be in for such a set.
That would be something unique. Something that's different from how a regular keyboard looks.

I also would like to voice my support for an all red on white set and the white on red modifiers.

We have the possibility to do almost any color combination we could dream about. Yet we keep making these bland sets.
Miami and Cream cheese being the exception and I'm part of both to show my support, even though I don't really like the colors of Miami.

How would a off white and grey whit red dysub letters be that different from the old rubber dome keyboard lying next to me?
The red letters on anything other than pure white would lose intensity as seen by the nyan cat prototypes. My guess is that the letters would look almost like regular black/grey letters to anything but a close inspection.

I hope I haven't offended anyone. If so I would like to apologize.
I'm really grateful for all the hard work that goes into these group buys. I try to take part in as many as I can afford and motivate. Just wish there were a few more inspirational color choices.

[MMB]

I would definitely be in for such a set.
That would be something unique. Something that's different from how a regular keyboard looks.

I also would like to voice my support for an all red on white set and the white on red modifiers.

We have the possibility to do almost any color combination we could dream about. Yet we keep making these bland sets.
Miami and Cream cheese being the exception and I'm part of both to show my support, even though I don't really like the colors of Miami.

How would a off white and grey whit red dysub letters be that different from the old rubber dome keyboard lying next to me?
The red letters on anything other than pure white would lose intensity as seen by the nyan cat prototypes. My guess is that the letters would look almost like regular black/grey letters to anything but a close inspection.

I hope I haven't offended anyone. If so I would like to apologize.
I'm really grateful for all the hard work that goes into these group buys. I try to take part in as many as I can afford and motivate. Just wish there were a few more inspirational color choices.

This is exactly my point. But I think they basically just want a Red Alert copy, so we probably need to look elsewhere for something more original.

[Zehkul]

reasons to go with sp:

d) iso set, tsangan set etc etc

No ISO if no JRET.

f) non crappy PBT spacebar.

Crappy ABS spacebar.

:-)

[snowboarder3]

Definitely interested in PBT with grey modifiers. Definitely a geekhack key. I know it would never happen but a dvorak/colemak kit would be awesome, but that's just me picking something that I specifically want, obviously kits that benefit the greater good would be better.