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« Reply #150 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 04:53:34 »
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This is exactly my point. But I think they basically just want a Red Alert copy, so we probably need to look elsewhere for something more original.


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« Reply #151 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 05:01:31 »
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« Reply #152 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 07:00:04 »
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Once again keyboard story will have red and white done in August joint project with kbdmania, so i dont know why you guys are asking to do something that is getting done already

http://geekhack.org/showthread.php?30708-Updates-on-all-products
they 3 sets, red/white blue/white and green/white

Because:

1. Those are Cream Cheese & RGB, not White.

1a. Why would Keyboard Story and KBDmania do CC&G again? KBD did the first one, and then you yourself made a round of it available to us (I am looking forward to my sets).

2. Pricing. Maybe we can get these cheaper if we do them ourselves, and get SP tier pricing? I don't know about this one. What price will KS/KBD be charging for their sets? Anyone know? Will it be SP tier pricing, or a set price? I'm not saying they are trying to rip anyone off, we just don't have any idea at this point.

3. Availability. How easy is it to order a CC&G, CC&Blue, or Graphite set right now?

Edit: Almost forgot. 4. Options. We could do the red modifiers as standard but have an option for white modifiers, if people want those. And/or a red number row. Also, add-ons for tsangan kits, 10-key kits, ISO kits, etc.
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« Reply #153 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 07:31:20 »
The white on red set is super sexy.

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« Reply #154 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 09:24:25 »
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Because:

1. Those are Cream Cheese & RGB, not White.

1a. Why would Keyboard Story and KBDmania do CC&G again? KBD did the first one, and then you yourself made a round of it available to us (I am looking forward to my sets).

2. Pricing. Maybe we can get these cheaper if we do them ourselves, and get SP tier pricing? I don't know about this one. What price will KS/KBD be charging for their sets? Anyone know? Will it be SP tier pricing, or a set price? I'm not saying they are trying to rip anyone off, we just don't have any idea at this point.

3. Availability. How easy is it to order a CC&G, CC&Blue, or Graphite set right now?

Edit: Almost forgot. 4. Options. We could do the red modifiers as standard but have an option for white modifiers, if people want those. And/or a red number row. Also, add-ons for tsangan kits, 10-key kits, ISO kits, etc.
1. They are making 3 DIFFERENT versions one is with red

2. Not my call as I do not know

3. It will be available because that's what Keyboardstory wants to do.

4. We as in who? I still see a mix amount of grey/white/red modifiers with grey and white leading, I for one do not want to see red modifiers as a standard set, part of that is because I KNOW a set is coming out with red as modifiers.
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« Reply #155 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:13:37 »
I guess Bavman could run a GB for the doubleshot set with red modifiers, and Ragnorock could run the GB for the PBT dyesubs. Or we could take a poll?
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« Reply #156 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:17:13 »
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I guess Bavman could run a GB for the doubleshot set with red modifiers, and Ragnorock could run the GB for the PBT dyesubs. Or we could take a poll?


Problem with that is that it'll split up orders, so the sets will be more expensive.
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« Reply #157 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:35:53 »
Or we could just wait a month or so to free peoples pockets up lol

But its probably not a good idea. Its better to find a middle ground for everyone

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« Reply #158 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:36:55 »
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No ISO if no JRET.



Crappy ABS spacebar.

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easier to replace than to fix a warped PBT spacebar. but hey, if that does it for you...

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« Reply #159 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:40:25 »
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Or we could just wait a month or so to free peoples pockets up lol

But its probably not a good idea. Its better to find a middle ground for everyone


As long as Round 4 is on, people will not have much money. The ideal time for this group buy will be between Round 4 and Round 5. So get your stuff prepared and take orders once Round 4 is shipped.

The Koreans want to start their group buy in August => perfect time!

Well ahead of Round 5 and some gap to Round 4, so pockets will be filled up again.

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« Reply #160 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 10:41:21 »
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Well ahead of Round 5 and some gap to Round 4, so pockets will be filled up again.

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« Reply #161 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:03:38 »
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Just wait for Round 5, then.


As I stated before, the world will end before that time comes.

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« Reply #162 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:04:32 »
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once Round 4 is shipped.

When is that? :P

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« Reply #163 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:48:04 »
Ok, so far the IC breaks down like this, as far as I can tell from reading every post:

Interested in DOUBLESHOT with RED modifiers. Options: Possibly RED number row, WHITE modifiers, tsangan kit, 10-keypad, ISO kit:
1. bavman
2. jdcarpe
3. MagicMeatball
4. Wraul
5. Greg Dron
6. boost
7. ripster?
8. jcrouse

Interested in PBT DYESUBS with GREY modifiers. Options: WHITE modifiers, tsangan kit, 10-keypad, (ISO not possible, no JRET):
1. Ragnorock
2. thegunner100
3. tsangan
4. Demik
5. DeathAdder
6. mkawa
7. nntnam
8. snowboarder3
9. 4en?
10. 1391401?
11. hashbaz
12. jcrouse

Interested, no preference:
1. Funxion
2. Zehkul
3. longweight
4. tjweir
5. Nask
6. WorldExclusive
7. tobr1an
8. i3oilermaker
9. ekw808

Did I miss anyone? Get your preference wrong?
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« Reply #164 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:50:43 »
hashbaz for PBT DYESUBS with GREY modifiers by me just glancing at the list
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« Reply #165 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:53:05 »
I will be in for one of each.

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« Reply #166 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:55:40 »
Well, if you list it like that, I rather would put me in the DS section as I don't like greyish modifiers...

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« Reply #167 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 11:59:36 »
count me out if it's anything but pbt dye sub with grey mods.

red mods look dumb, and it's about time we move away from doubleshot to dye sub pbt.

here's hoping the koreans get it right.
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« Reply #168 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:00:39 »
Put options for white modifiers, etc.
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« Reply #169 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:03:23 »
Quote from: demik;602909
count me out if it's anything but pbt dye sub with grey mods.

I feel the same way, but about doubleshots with red modifiers.

That's why I think this should be two separate GB's. I don't think it will split orders, since some people just want one or the other. You wouldn't buy the DS's, and I wouldn't buy the dyesubs.
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« Reply #170 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:03:58 »
I never said I was interested, I only joined the conversation xD

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« Reply #171 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:16:23 »
Quote from: MagicMeatball;602843
When is that? :P


Ripster? Is that you?

Quote from: demik;602909
count me out if it's anything but pbt dye sub with grey mods.

red mods look dumb, and it's about time we move away from doubleshot to dye sub pbt.

here's hoping the koreans get it right.



I'm for doubleshots because the look of the labels is much better (sharper edges). Dye subs are fuzzy.
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« Reply #172 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:24:23 »
In if the sets are grey modifiers.

Red modifiers looks too bright.

May you wanna use windows 8 logo instead of the current one?

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« Reply #173 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:27:12 »
So in. 3rd design is the bomb!

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« Reply #174 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:29:47 »
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May you wanna use windows 8 logo instead of the current one?

Windows 8 is teh suck. Wait for Windows 9. See also: Windows ME, Windows Vista
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« Reply #175 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:32:34 »
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In if the sets are grey modifiers.

Red modifiers looks too bright.

May you wanna use windows 8 logo instead of the current one?

=D

FINALLY somebody understands. red mods = TOO bright.

maybe if the red was a little darker it would look less ugly. but as it stands.. bleh.
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« Reply #176 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:38:53 »
I’m not really interested (in this GB, highly interested in dye sub PBTs in general though), I’ll most likely have China do my sets. Alternative layouts, you know ;P

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« Reply #177 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:39:27 »
Quote from: demik;602933
FINALLY somebody understands. red mods = TOO bright.

maybe if the red was a little darker it would look less ugly. but as it stands.. bleh.


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« Reply #178 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:40:17 »
How much do you think you'll have to pay if you order only one set?

Also, can't you touch type? Or is it to show off that you are using neo? :P.

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« Reply #179 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 12:44:40 »
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Says a mod with a red frame and 2 white on red keys in his avatar!

^.^

i dont own that keyboard anymore tho!
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« Reply #180 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:02:58 »
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^.^

i dont own that keyboard anymore tho!

Still counts!

We could always go for a darker red, I don't mind it as long as the idea is pretty much the same

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« Reply #181 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:06:37 »
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Still counts!

We could always go for a darker red, I don't mind it as long as the idea is pretty much the same

That's what I'm saying. We can always go with WFK and RBV or similar. I don't think anyone is a go/no-go on just the color codes. But red modifiers of any shade are not possible with white legends in dyesub.
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« Reply #182 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:12:30 »
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We can always go with WFK and RBV or similar.
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« Reply #183 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:34:36 »
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^.^

i dont own that keyboard anymore tho!


Is that the one which went to webwit?
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« Reply #184 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:35:00 »
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red mods look dumb


Your opinion.

Anyways, the title of this thread reads "Double-shots", and followed up with a layout with red modifiers. In 'my opinion', the look great. Why do we need to copy the Koreans on everything?

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« Reply #185 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:35:41 »
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Is that the one which went to webwit?

nope, mine was sold to a GHer recently.
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« Reply #186 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:37:55 »
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Why do we need to copy the Koreans on everything?

I am trying to prevent that

red numeric, wyse/isotherm font, double shot
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« Reply #187 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:49:19 »
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Ripster? Is that you?


It was a valid question :)

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« Reply #188 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:50:11 »
should stop argue and just make a poll! so we know which set will have more customers and therefore be cheaper

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« Reply #189 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:51:40 »
I'm pretty sure both options will end up with the same number of customers. But everyone has his preferences.

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« Reply #190 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:54:35 »
I'm just going to say this once more that KBDmania/keyboard story is doing red/white set with the red mods people want, yes no red numeric row but in exchange you get kbdmania's special font ie CCnG and graphite font
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« Reply #191 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 13:57:16 »
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I am trying to prevent that

red numeric, wyse/isotherm font, double shot

I really like it. It indeed doesn't make sense to exactly copy the Red Alert. Also, if both versions are available (red on white and white on red modifiers) there should be something for everybody. Can't see that this should not be successful.

The white on red modifiers could also bring some people in who already have a Red Alert and want some change for the modifiers.

And last but not least: RA/WA is a perfect choice as a complement kit for my Keyboard Runner and Lotus keys!

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« Reply #192 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:04:52 »
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Why do we need to copy the Koreans on everything?


Because they rock. :-D

And it really is pretty dumb to do it while they do the same set, just better. And saying you can’t wait 2 months in pretty strange considering we’re doing group buys here.

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« Reply #193 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:08:15 »


i'll just leave this right here.
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« Reply #194 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:13:18 »
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i'll just leave this right here.

SP's PBT white can be even whiter than that. And that will give  better contrast.
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« Reply #195 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:13:46 »
Can someone with a color set post a pic of WCK/WFK/WA and RA/RBV/RCQ/RR please?
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« Reply #196 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:22:28 »
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SP's PBT white can be even whiter than that. And that will give  better contrast.

i think that white is perfect.
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« Reply #197 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:22:36 »
So long as there are white modifiers, I'll go with either one. I don't want to split demand.
I'm not that into Grey mods because it's not unqiue. Everything looks like an IBM clone at some point. White on red brings something different to the table.
That's also the reason why I went with the Miami set, and I may by a Cream Cheese set when the extra's arrive.

Sometimes being "eccentric" is good. WTF could turn into something awesome, in this case, white on red mods.
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« Reply #198 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:27:12 »
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Because they rock. :-D

And it really is pretty dumb to do it while they do the same set, just better. And saying you can’t wait 2 months in pretty strange considering we’re doing group buys here.


'Because they rock' isn't a reason to copy them. As far as I can tell, the red on white with red on grey modifiers looks exactly like the Imsto set.

Where did I say I can't wait 2 months? I have already been waiting on Round 4, so clearly I don't mind :)

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« Reply #199 on: Tue, 29 May 2012, 14:28:47 »
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Can someone with a color set post a pic of WCK/WFK/WA and RA/RBV/RCQ/RR please?


I have a PBT SP color chain, you need pics of that?