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Offline csharper19

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Model M ?
« on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 08:59:15 »
Finally, I got IBM Model M with Buckling Spring. (English / Hebrew Layout).
It's AMAZING , greatest keyboard I used , 90wpm.

Suddenly , I'm not so sure it's model M...

On the back:
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71G4627
1378710   EC  1387525
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55-3288936L
EC  1387527
1995-01-26
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MANUFACTURED IN UNITED KINGDOM
(C) LEXMARK INTERNATIONAL INC. 1985
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Can somebody recognize it for me ?
If it's not Model M - Damn! Finally I got mechanical keyboard , and it's not mechanical ?

I thought this is the Buckling Spring feeling :(

Offline Magna224

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« Reply #1 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 09:12:30 »
The 71G should be a rubber dome version.
If you live in AZ you can try my keyboards. I usually keep plenty of different ALPS and MX and buckling springs.

Offline csharper19

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« Reply #2 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 09:16:49 »
God , I'm so depressed now.
:/

Offline Ascaii

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« Reply #3 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 09:28:27 »
edited

its still a great rubber dome
« Last Edit: Wed, 29 June 2011, 07:02:44 by Ascaii »
"Mechanical keyboards are like pokemon:
you start with one, and then you wanna catch em all."

Offline Daniel Beaver

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« Reply #4 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 09:30:25 »
They're still pretty good, for rubber domes. Model M build quality is stellar, so don't despair.

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Offline ch_123

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« Reply #5 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 15:45:13 »
Quote from: Ascaii;369414
dont be, you still made a great find! The caps alone are a rare find and will fit on a regular model M once you get one.

 
They won't. The keycaps are single piece (some Unicomp rubber dome keyboards had two piece ones, but the IBM branded Lexmark made rubber dome ones seem to be single part only) and have a different stem that won't work with a buckling spring. You can see it in the IBM Wiki. It wouldn't be possible to mod them to be suitable for use in a buckling spring keyboard.

Shame, if they had the same keycaps, you could bolt mod the keyboard assembly, and replace the rubber domes with buckling springs. Everything else is identical to the buckling spring versions.
« Last Edit: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:38:52 by ch_123 »

Offline TacticalCoder

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« Reply #6 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:19:32 »
Quote from: ch_123;369605
Same, if they had the same keycaps, you could bolt mod the keyboard assembly, and replace the rubber domes with buckling springs. Everything else is identical to the buckling spring versions.


So if I take keycaps from another source (like some terminal board with Model M compatible keystems + keycaps) I could bolt mod a rubber dome by adding hammers+springs and transform it into basically a buckling spring keyboard?

2nd question: are there rubber dome space saver?  :)
HHKB Pro JP (daily driver) -- HHKB Pro 2 -- Industrial IBM Model M 1395240-- NIB Cherry MX 5000 - IBM Model M 1391412 (Swiss QWERTZ) -- IBM Model M 1391403 (German QWERTZ) * 2 -- IBM Model M Ambra -- Black IBM Model M M13 -- IBM Model M 1391401 -- IBM Model M 139? ? ? *2 -- Dell AT102W -- Ergo (split) SmartBoard (white ALPS apparently)

Offline Tennobanzai

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« Reply #7 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:29:39 »
Quote from: TacticalCoder;369644
So if I take keycaps from another source (like some terminal board with Model M compatible keystems + keycaps) I could bolt mod a rubber dome by adding hammers+springs and transform it into basically a buckling spring keyboard?

2nd question: are there rubber dome space saver?  :)
They made SSK II in rubber dome but they aren't the same

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #8 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:39:33 »
Yes, I can't think of any reason why not.

And no, there's no rubber dome version of the Space Saving Keyboard. The IBM Spacesaver/M4 filled that role in IBM's product line.

Offline ch_123

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« Reply #9 on: Tue, 28 June 2011, 17:42:08 »
In fairness, it would be a somewhat reasonable assumption to make if you weren't aware of the specifics.

Offline Ascaii

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« Reply #10 on: Wed, 29 June 2011, 07:02:17 »
Quote from: acfrazier;369657
I'm slightly disappointed that you of all people would spread such misinformation. Not going to elaborate seeing as ch_123 already did.

Quote from: ch_123;369605
They won't. The keycaps are single piece (some Unicomp rubber dome keyboards had two piece ones, but the IBM branded Lexmark made rubber dome ones seem to be single part only) and have a different stem that won't work with a buckling spring. You can see it in the IBM Wiki. It wouldn't be possible to mod them to be suitable for use in a buckling spring keyboard.

Shame, if they had the same keycaps, you could bolt mod the keyboard assembly, and replace the rubber domes with buckling springs. Everything else is identical to the buckling spring versions.

Sorry guys, I learn new stuff  every day. I still consider myself a moderate nooby =D
editing my original post.
"Mechanical keyboards are like pokemon:
you start with one, and then you wanna catch em all."