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The Official iTunes sucks thread
« on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:03:29 »
Alright, this is the official place to ***** and complain about the total ****ing garbage that is itunes, case in point, I had organised/curated playlists that I made for my top tracks of that year (lists you can see here. As you can see I started it in 2008 and have continued to do it until this year (2015 was in progress). Since the update however iTunes has renamed and created a whole bunch of new playlists that I never wanted or created;




Why do I now have 5 2016 playlists? I think one of them MIGHT be the 2015 playlist I was putting together but I've got no idea, where the **** are the other playlists I made? Bearing in mind those are automatic playlists I used to help my curate my main list, all totally ****ed, thanks to iTunes.

Now looking at the playlists I actually made by hand, I notice I have two 2015 lists, why the **** do I have two, and why the **** is one double the size of the other?!





Why the **** has iTunes even touched my ****ing playlists?! I never asked it too, it's even worse on my phone with the new Apple Music app I can ONLY for some ****ed up reason see some random playlists (and yes you guessed it most of those are all 5 of those random 2016 playlists).

Why the **** are Apple letting people with weapons grade autism code and work on there biggest ****ing application?!

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:06:23 »
I also see that they totally changed the interface for sync'ing with your phone, so now you have literally zero control over putting music on your phone... what the ****

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:07:14 »
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.
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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:13:04 »
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

If your a heavy playlist user, don't it's ****ing trash. This is the new options/management screen for managing what music is transfered to your iphone;



if I didn't have a device big enough for all my itunes music, I would be having a ****ing hernia right about now

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:20:58 »
**** their new music app also
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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:49:05 »
Pity everyone who finds iTunes sucks can't switch to anything else.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 02:57:55 »
If you can show me another audio program that is able to manage your music and has a store connected to it with most music and can send all that stuff to my phone I'll sign up right now

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 03:00:44 »
**** iTunes. Complete resource hog and I can't stand apps that try and take control of my files. I use VOX for local music and spotify for web streaming, running an Android so I can just drag and drop songs on my phone.
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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 04:58:17 »
That sucks man.. I have to upgrade my phone too.. I've been using google play music for 2 months and it rocks.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 07:39:22 »
still staying at 12.1


but Apple Music in my place is only $3/month, I guess that's nice...
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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:03:54 »
i keep breaking ipods and i spent a good time loading music into my iphone 5.

just bought an iphone 6 and have no interest in keeping with itunes,

i have been very happy with Pandora as a replacement if anyone has better alternatives hit me up.
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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:14:29 »
Just turn off iCloud Music Library when you launch the new iTunes or Apple Music (on the phone) and you'll be fine.

It's still a piece of crap.

But turning off will not screw up the playlist or your songs.
 

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 08:22:56 »
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:18:29 »
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

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« Reply #14 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:21:45 »
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.
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« Reply #15 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 10:26:50 »
Zune software >>>>>>>>>>>>> iTunes


I was sad when I was gifted an iPod Touch instead of a Zune back in the day.  iTunes is such a piece of **** no matter what OS you're using.  It's so counter-intuitive and such a pain.

The launch Zune software, the v2 was total garbage

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 14:36:16 »
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 03 July 2015, 15:55:57 »
Problem i have with data plans for music, is your super limited by genre and artist & then even more so by signal

I've been able to find everything except some mix tapes on Google play. I've only had signal cut out a couple times. I'm on sprint. It's probably way different there though. But also they give you 80gb free cloud storage for your own music that isn't on there.

Yeah, but I'm like a legit hipster

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 05:10:55 »
Also, should be noted that they seemingly (for no obvious reason) changed the time period for 'Recently Added' music, which seems to span the last 3-4 months now... not sure why...


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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 05:56:35 »
I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team

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« Reply #20 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:11:52 »
Gotta admit, I use foobar2k for actual listening and managing stuff on my PC and only touch iTunes when I need to copy audio over to my iDevices.
Then again, I avoid playlists and syncing and use the manual management function, because iTunes is so horrible at what it does.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:47:06 »
I have over 90gb of music on my phone, playlists are essential lol

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 06:58:23 »
Why I used to have and iphone, I used Copytrans Manager, not sure if it still works. UI was a bit old, but it did its job.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:00:18 »
I imagine that the newest update to the Music App and how it 'manages' music would have probably broken all 3rd party stuff

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:01:36 »

I still can't get playlists that I have on iTunes sync with my phone, at all, I'm not the only one too; https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7104625?start=0&tstart=0

It's even more ****ed up that they decided to remove the option to make your own playlists on the device... like what the **** is wrong with the software team
I'm not sure. I can create playlist:


 

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:07:46 »
Wow, I just found I can create a playlist and add other playlist into it! That's super cool.
 

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:34:12 »
I must be the only person on this planet who doesn't use playlists.

So far, I have not experienced any of the horrible 12.2 bugs.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 07:35:54 »
Ahh nice one Belfong! I missed that haha

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 05 July 2015, 08:40:09 »
Ha, iTunes is complete trash. I only use it to sync music then I make a playlist on my phone.

Foobar is meh thang to listen to music on pc though.

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« Reply #29 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 00:32:04 »
I can't give up iTunes. My favorite thing is creating dynamic playlists with their GUI. It's just so damn easy. Haven't run into any problems whatsoever. Also, I like their metadata system too (you can choose what time songs start and end, so you can trim music without modifying your music files).

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 22 July 2015, 00:45:07 »
I love Apple Music.. That's enough to like iTunes at this moment.
 

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #31 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 12:57:03 »
>buys albums from Amazon
>updates iphone
>wont sync the music to my phone
>update itunes
>those albums refuse to go across to my phone
>buys album on itunes store
>auto sync's it to my phone before I've even asked it too
>amazon bought albums still wont sync


seems to be pretty legit that now Apple won't let you sync albums bought anywhere but on iTunes to your iphone... how can that even be legal?

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #32 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 16:57:43 »
Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. :p No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.

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« Reply #33 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 17:12:26 »
I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 23:46:42 »
I use FooBar2000. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs.

Use the audio writer component which adds CD burning. One less program to use.

FooBar2000 is open sourced though.

Actually it's closed source, but freeware.

Ahh, I did not know that last part. I will have to add that audio writer! Thanks!

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 02:37:29 »
If foobar could be used with my iPhone and had integrated iTunes Store support then I could move, but as it stands it's just not possible... Maybe if Apple continue make iTunes the ****ing worst and foobar can sync and manage music for Android devices maybe I could move... But ATM in too much into music and owning music and iTunes is still just the best and easiest, despite its autistic and possibly illegal behaviour

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 07:38:38 »
ITT people surprised that Apple's walled garden is indeed a walled garden.

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« Reply #37 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:06:58 »
ITT people who can't read

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« Reply #38 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:54:59 »
Exactly.

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« Reply #39 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 08:57:26 »

Only wish Itunes would eat flac. Tired of converting it to stupid alac.

I haven't done yesterday update yet. Maybe I shouldn't.

When I started picking up more and more FLAC I left iTunes behind for good*. I use FooBar2000 on my desktop and laptop. I absolutely love it. I have been iTunes free for 2 years now. :p No, it doesn't sync with a phone, but I use an android phone, so I just transfer the files as if it were to a flashdrive or such. I also have to use alternative software to burn CDs. FooBar2000 is open sourced though. I don't take advance of that (I prefer the simple stock vintage theme with the album list and default showing), it certainly opens up lots of doors for those who want to customize their experience.

*I also left iTunes because of how much extra files it was stashing on my computer. When I deleted iTunes I deleted about 10 GB of random, extra files. Part of that is because I'm not to great with computers, cookies, and keeping it clean. The other part was just because iTunes liked to take advantage of my hard drive. Glad to be done with that. FooBar2000 is 58 MB at its simplest.

I used Zune for a while with my Zune, but it never seemed to run well. I haven't loaded it on my latest laptop or desktop.

Bottom line: I'm just glad to be done with iTunes.
I just want to say that the reason iTunes have 10GB is probably due to the size of your iPad or iPhone backups.
 

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 11:48:21 »
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:19:03 »
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.

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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:22:46 »
I don't use any Apple devices. The only one I have ever had was about 8 years ago and used a different computer to upload.

Thanks for your input.

Perhaps I should've quoted the gentleman above me. It was a response to his comment.  :-\

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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:27:33 »
Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above :P

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 16:31:28 »
Yeah sorry my bad, tired and grouchy I totally missed the post above :P

Hahaha, you're good. I'm just never sure how much to read into posts on here. I have never figured out if I should quote who I'm responding to if they're right above me. Some forums hate it, others prefer it. So I just kinda flip a coin to figure it out. :thumb:

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« Reply #45 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 18:32:48 »
Don't worry, I usually don't quote too if it was a direct response to the post above.
 

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« Reply #46 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 03:58:03 »
Well it's only taken the best part of 6 months but finally, finally Apple has fixed playlists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Woooooooooo!!!!!!!




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Re: The Official iTunes sucks thread
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 04:11:02 »
Speaking of itunes does anyone have experience with moving your itunes library from one computer to another?


1386 artists, 15136 songs

I need to re install my computer since forever but I'm so afraid to lose my ratings, playlists and all the other stuff.
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« Reply #48 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 04:15:37 »
There is an XML file you'll need to find, that stores everything, though I think ratings and things are emended into the id3 tags of each track... But if you find that file you can move iTunes only when you reinstall it will list all the music as it was, and if your music has moved all those links in iTunes will be broken and need fixing

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« Reply #49 on: Sun, 25 October 2015, 13:45:32 »
Although I can agree I don't care for he new iTunes I just downloaded the new 9.1 iOS update and there's so many new emojis!! I'm so happy