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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #150 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 04:17:12 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.

So you are saying scoops are unusable?

I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #151 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 11:10:57 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.

So you are saying scoops are unusable?

I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:11:13 »
Possible to add an extra 2.25 shift for FC660M owners ?
That's the only missing part to make it compatible with the leopold keyboard.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #153 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:15:09 »
Possible to add an extra 2.25 shift for FC660M owners ?
That's the only missing part to make it compatible with the leopold keyboard.
Most people don't use leopold keyboards. It sucks at how they designed the board to  be inconvenient. Maybe when it launches you can find an ISO user who is willing to part.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #154 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:16:15 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.

So you are saying scoops are unusable?

I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...

+1, scoops should be an acquired taste for the new generation, unless your parents built you a keyboard with gmk keycaps from age 4

comparatively, all oem keyboards, that the majority of people use have dashes

we didn't see the GMK sketches tho, let's holster our guns until the sketches arrive (apart from the scoops, there are a lot of suggestions, as I understand most of these are already in the sketches, from the tone of OP)
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #155 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:20:52 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.

So you are saying scoops are unusable?

I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...

+1, scoops should be an acquired taste for the new generation, unless your parents built you a keyboard with gmk keycaps from age 4

comparatively, all oem keyboards, that the majority of people use have dashes

we didn't see the GMK sketches tho, let's holster our guns until the sketches arrive (apart from the scoops, there are a lot of suggestions, as I understand most of these are already in the sketches, from the tone of OP)
I think that scoops / lines issue should be addressed w/ a color mod pack, like Ivan did, but I know Karura probably has something figured out already

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #156 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 13:33:38 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same. I wonder why such a basic option is overlooked, it would add $1.5 to the groupbuy, making probably more people happy than those who use some obscure layout.

So you are saying scoops are unusable?

I bet the majority of Geekhack will disagree with that statement...
Well, considering this is a GB on GH, it would make sense to go with what the majority likes (for good reason, dashes are absolutely horrible)
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #157 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 14:46:16 »
I like dots (nipples?) and dashes over scoops, but it hardly matters.  If this is a faithful recreation then we'll get whatever the original had and there's no point arguing about it.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #158 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 16:14:42 »
Cherry/GMK love = scoops love

Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #159 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 16:35:51 »
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #160 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 16:38:27 »
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.


Cherry/GMK love = scoops love

Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #161 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 16:39:29 »
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.


Cherry/GMK love = scoops love

Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.

Not me. I don't try to sink group buys, I try to help them. If my tone comes off as dismissive, it's because I know what I'm doing.
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #162 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 16:41:29 »
Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.


Cherry/GMK love = scoops love

Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.

Or you know, cater to the wants of most other people getting in on this
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #163 on: Wed, 12 August 2015, 17:14:42 »
Thanks for all the interest and support for SKIDATA+. I will do my best to accommodate the community, while retaining true to the original design cues.

Despite the original Skidata having scoops, like any true GMK/Cherry keyboard should have, I would be more than happy to include flat-lines on the F and J as an add-on.

The base set will have scoops only, to remain cost-effective and avoid having redundant keys of the same size, profile, and legend.

For this to happen, I would require a large amount of orders, say 500, and would require a lot of extra time from me, which would delay the sorting process for the entire keyset, which I'm not sure if people would be happy with.
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #164 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:09:06 »
For this to happen, I would require a large amount of orders, say 500, and would require a lot of extra time from me, which would delay the sorting process for the entire keyset, which I'm not sure if people would be happy with.

For this to hit at least 500, then you've got no hope but MassDrop to achieve this.

Really like this GMK set, we all need some more Orange Love here on Geekhack  ;D .

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« Reply #165 on: Thu, 13 August 2015, 00:26:11 »
Yeah, Elrick the Hype Master is back!!

We need your powers in the GMK RGBK and Classic Beige thread as well  :p

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #166 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 05:06:55 »
Really like this GMK set, we all need some more Orange Love here on Geekhack  ;D .

w00p w00p!! SKIDATA+ hype!

This set will definitely have to become reality :) Thanks for the support!

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 05:40:48 »
If you think that the majority is right, should we include only the keys for a standard layout? Or instead, for the sake of fidelity, include only the keycaps of the original ISO set?

Very nice of you... trying to sink this group buy.


Cherry/GMK love = scoops love

Don't like scoops? Don't buy Cherry/GMK.

Or you know, cater to the wants of most other people getting in on this

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 05:46:20 »
w00p w00p!! SKIDATA+ hype!

This set will definitely have to become reality :) Thanks for the support!

Oh FVCK YEAH, this GMK set shall rise and flow forth, from their factory soon my friend   8) .

Skidata has always been one I wanted to own not because it's only GMK but because it represents superb simplicity and classical good looks.

Plus I'm a confirmed ORANGE addict as well.....

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« Reply #169 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 09:20:32 »
Nice, love the orange legends. Will be looking forward to seeing the mockup and everything. Scoops!

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 09:21:16 »
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.

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« Reply #171 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 09:39:29 »
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.

same idea  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #172 on: Fri, 14 August 2015, 22:27:13 »
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.

Couldn't care less about it, as long as the WHOLE key-set gets made to order. 

If having this done for an 1800 layout as well, will cause some serious damage to my shorts as they're ripped from my body in joyous celebration  :p .

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« Reply #173 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 12:31:06 »
More scoop and dashes drama (smh) but I'm sure this set will become reality.

Couldn't care less about it, as long as the WHOLE key-set gets made to order. 

If having this done for an 1800 layout as well, will cause some serious damage to my shorts as they're ripped from my body in joyous celebration  :p .

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« Reply #174 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 18:55:27 »
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #175 on: Sat, 15 August 2015, 21:49:59 »
Nothing can quell my excitement for this set. Count me in!

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« Reply #176 on: Sun, 16 August 2015, 07:36:58 »
Consider me interested as well. Excited for how the mock ups will look.

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« Reply #177 on: Wed, 19 August 2015, 00:46:17 »
So am I getting mine soon? They shipped yet er wut?
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #178 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 01:37:24 »
interested

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #179 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 03:15:14 »
Good news, received the preliminary renders from GMK, and have posted it in the OP.

Please keep in mind, a few small edits to the legends will be made, but the keys/layout included will be very close to what is offered.

These are very exciting times! :D

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #180 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 03:39:08 »
Thanks for the update  :thumb:

I think you should also edit the thread title regularly to attract more attention ("mockups received" or something like that).


Concerning the included keys I am very happy with your selection. It supports basically everything  :thumb:

I don't really like the modifier legends though. Is that final?

Just for the record: I'd prefer "text + icon".

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+
« Reply #181 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 03:45:31 »
My view is broader than geeckhack. Outside of this circle, 99% of keyboards don't have scoops. I will not participate in a GB that offers only scoops, and I bet that most newcomers will think the same.

Nope. Scoops are wildly popular.
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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+ (Preliminary Mockups Received)
« Reply #182 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:01:15 »
The small edits are mostly for consistency issues like R2 Del and R1 Delete.

Lechner I have updated the thread title, thanks!

The set was designed with the original Skidata keyset in mind using ISO symbols without text, so unfortunately won't be changing to Text + Icons, to retain true to the original ;)

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« Reply #183 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:33:53 »
The set was designed with the original Skidata keyset in mind using ISO symbols without text, so unfortunately won't be changing to Text + Icons, to retain true to the original ;)

Fair enough.

What about a black on orange mod kit with text+icon legends? Would be nice to have the option to create a two tone set!

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« Reply #184 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 04:37:54 »
The set was designed with the original Skidata keyset in mind using ISO symbols without text, so unfortunately won't be changing to Text + Icons, to retain true to the original ;)

Fair enough.

What about a black on orange mod kit with text+icon legends? Would be nice to have the option to create a two tone set!

It's already planned out as well ;)

I just don't like to announce things before I have more to show for it haha. There will be a lot more to come, including a Reverse-Skidata modpack.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+ (Preliminary Mockups Received)
« Reply #185 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:23:44 »
I'm getting a broken link on the GMK renders.

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« Reply #186 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:26:06 »
I'm getting a broken link on the GMK renders.
Same here. The image doesn't show up.
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« Reply #187 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:35:30 »
I have re-uploaded the render. I hope it works now!

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« Reply #188 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:36:46 »
I have re-uploaded the render. I hope it works now!

Works for me, but it also worked for me before the re-upload :p

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« Reply #189 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:40:13 »
I have re-uploaded the render. I hope it works now!

Ah that works....  I cannot wait for this,  love orange.

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« Reply #190 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 06:58:38 »
Surely the R2 Control is supposed to be R3 Control?

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« Reply #191 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 08:24:01 »
Surely the R2 Control is supposed to be R3 Control?

Good catch! Just double checked the spec sheet I sent and realized that it's my mistake and not GMK's.

Will have that added to the list of things to update ;)

I hope we have all the correct keys with these changes, but please do let me know if anything else is off.

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« Reply #192 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 08:27:25 »
huge campatibility, great work

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« Reply #193 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 08:28:59 »
Good stuff.

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« Reply #194 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 09:58:54 »
Surely the R2 Control is supposed to be R3 Control?

Good catch! Just double checked the spec sheet I sent and realized that it's my mistake and not GMK's.

Will have that added to the list of things to update ;)

I hope we have all the correct keys with these changes, but please do let me know if anything else is off.

I can confirm 1800, 75% and HHKB layout (with R3 Control change) are correct.

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Re: [IC] GMK SKIDATA+ (Preliminary Mockups Received)
« Reply #195 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:33:12 »
I can confirm 1800, 75% and HHKB layout (with R3 Control change) are correct.

Thank you!

Just another little update for you guys.

I have submitted a request for additional mockups for the add-on sets. It's not really a secret as to what it is if you've been following the thread (sorry, it is not additional DE/UK/NO language packs, cause that will cost too much), but definitely look forward to it :thumb:

You guys will definitely not expect to see what's on the second add-on pack ;) It's never been done before, and is going to take a bit of work to make happen.
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« Reply #196 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 12:43:50 »
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>

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« Reply #197 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 15:57:27 »
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>
Do you do anything else here but *****?
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« Reply #198 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 16:08:09 »
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>
Do you do anything else here but *****?

Sorry if I want to give you my money.

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« Reply #199 on: Mon, 24 August 2015, 16:12:51 »
<s> wonderful seeing the bars on f and j ;-) </s>
Do you do anything else here but *****?

Sorry if I want to give you my money.
I'm sure it will really hurt the buy not to have your order
IV KWK Info Thread & KBK Info Thread IV (out of date)

Old GBs: Gateron Switches (2015) | CF-LX R1 (2015) | CF-LX R2 (2017) | CF-LXXX (2017) | Gen.s Gem Caps (2015)

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary"