Author Topic: [IC] GMK CMYK with Poll (Read 19369 times)

ghostjuggernaut · « **on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:52:28 »

UPDATE with new mock-ups and estimated pricing info.

I was thinking about running this set again, and have been debating to go forward with it or not. Well I finally decided to get the ball rolling.

This is the set I would like to run as of right now, with the same keys that were ran with RBGYK. I am considering adding purple winkeys, similar to the added yellow winkeys of RGBYK. I'll need to get a new mockup and work through details though. I have not spoken with GMK since December, but will reach out to them soon depending on how the IC goes. I am going to stress the shift issues we saw with RGBYK, and do everything in my power to ensure they are not jacked up like the RGBYK ones were. Also, if this goes to GB, I will be handling this, not MD. I am going to look into pre-sorted as well to allow for quicker shipping.

So what does GH think about the set, winkeys, presorting? Any recomendations are welcome and feedback is encouraged. I will say that I do not plan to add any keys other than winkeys, and any others will take a lot of interest to get added. I am still pretty busy with school, so if I don't reply immediately that is why.

Lets hear it folks

Photekq · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:53:12 »

ye m8

FrostyToast · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:54:11 »

How many CMYK ICs will be started before we actually get anywhere?

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ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:55:11 »

Quote from: FrostyToast on Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:54:11

How many CMYK ICs will be started before we actually get anywhere? )

This one is gonna go somewhere, no worries.

64rky · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:00:12 »

YES!!!

romevi · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:22:18 »

YES! Finally.

I'm assuming all the same keys as RGBYK?

ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:35:39 »

Quote from: romevi on Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:22:18

YES! Finally.

I'm assuming all the same keys as RGBYK?

For now, its the keys in the GMK mockup. I imagine most will want the winkeys as they did before, and if that is the case they will be black on purple.

romevi · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:44:13 »

Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:35:39

Quote from: romevi on Thu, 18 February 2016, 20:22:18
YES! Finally.

I'm assuming all the same keys as RGBYK?

For now, its the keys in the GMK mockup. I imagine most will want the winkeys as they did before, and if that is the case they will be black on purple.

Sweet.

switchnollie · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 18 February 2016, 21:34:00 »

Been waiting for the CMY with black fonts

FoC_Tow · « **Reply #9 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 01:24:58 »

Sweet sign me up.

Really liking this as well!

Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:52:28

I am considering adding purple winkeys, similar to the added yellow winkeys of RGBYK.

yuktsi · « **Reply #10 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 01:47:03 »

prease. I want another set.

zennasyndroxx · « **Reply #11 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:25:07 »

aw yis let's go

raymogi · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:32:17 »

Yessir. Count me in.

zhihuichan · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:45:02 »

Really really enough CMY/RGB

Also Ctrl/ Alt are too much in this set. Delete some keys and reduce the price.

ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:48:43 »

Quote from: zhihuichan on Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:45:02

Really really enough CMY/RGB
Also Ctrl/ Alt are too much in this set. Delete some keys and reduce the price.

These are the minimum keys I am including. This set covers almost every possible keyboard I can think of. A lot of effort was out into these key choices, and I do not plan to reduce the set. You could work it out with someone to trade the keys you/they do not use.

Additionally, CMYK has not been ran by anyone in 3 or 4 years.

theoriginal123123 · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:49:02 »

Can we get a super key in this?

appleonama · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 04:52:28 »

ill go a set

edit: my brain is having a melt down
what I meant to say was
ill go for a set-ill take a set -in for one - ect.

FoC_Tow · « **Reply #17 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:02:26 »

If purple win keys make the race, I would also love a menu key to fully cover standard bottom row mods.

I terms of reduction, I could honestly live without Alt Gr (prefer using normal Alts despite using us int) but don't mind it being included either.

TalkingTree · « **Reply #18 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 05:16:26 »

Alt Gr and R5. Color me interested.

yomammary · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:06:25 »

billnye · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53 »

I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr. I personally use r5, but not enough people do to justify the increase cost in my opinion. Alt gr is the same. Some European people prefer it, but I don't think there are enough to justify the increased price.

As far as presorting goes, I would look at the price. In a set like this that's only ~25 keys, it honestly isn't that bad if you get some help. Depending on how many orders you get, you could probably get it finished in one weekend.

ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:36:31 »

Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53

I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr. I personally use r5, but not enough people do to justify the increase cost in my opinion. Alt gr is the same. Some European people prefer it, but I don't think there are enough to justify the increased price.

As far as presorting goes, I would look at the price. In a set like this that's only ~25 keys, it honestly isn't that bad if you get some help. Depending on how many orders you get, you could probably get it finished in one weekend.

Right now I'm going to consider it. Once I get quotes, I'll let the majority decide which they would prefer.

As for the keys, I do understand that many ppl won't use those two types, but would like to make it friendly for those that do.

With that said, of there is an overwhelming push not to have them, then I may consider it. I'll get quotes with, without, and presorted vs not. Once those come in I'll share with sending and we can go from there. I'll add a poll as well once those come in to help visualize the opinions.

romevi · « **Reply #22 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:38:46 »

I love the key choices. The selection in the RGBYK set was perfect, and I wouldn't have it any other way for this.

HoffmanMyster · « **Reply #23 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:26:52 »

Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:52:28

I will say that I do not plan to add any keys other than winkeys, and any others will take a lot of interest to get added.

I read and understand this, but still have to request.

I'd love to see fn keys in Cyan and Magenta.

Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53

I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but as a US ANSI user I like using Alt & AltGr. Would many people be opposed to dropping the second Alt and being "forced" to use AltGr?

romevi · « **Reply #24 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:29:30 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:26:52

Quote from: ghostjuggernaut on Thu, 18 February 2016, 19:52:28
I will say that I do not plan to add any keys other than winkeys, and any others will take a lot of interest to get added.

I read and understand this, but still have to request.

I'd love to see fn keys in Cyan and Magenta.

Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53
I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but as a US ANSI user I like using Alt & AltGr. Would many people be opposed to dropping the second Alt and being "forced" to use AltGr?

As an ANSI user, I too use AltGr. Gives my bottom row a little variety.

Pieminister · « **Reply #25 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:33:54 »

Do you by any chance have a picture of the black legend CMYK form a previous run? I have only ever seen the white legends, which I prefer at least on paper.

ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #26 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:36:41 »

There is an image in this post.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=79535.msg2049336.msg#2049336

geniekid · « **Reply #27 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:37:25 »

I'm also fine with dropping right Alt for right AltGr.

FrostyToast · « **Reply #28 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:37:27 »

I would like to either remove alt gr or remove the extra alt keys.
Either way we currently have 4 unnecessary keys that increase the cost.

ghostjuggernaut · « **Reply #29 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:40:13 »

Here is another post with some pics. Interestingly, the right shift has the same issue we saw with the right RGBYK icon shift. So it appears that their legend may be messed up, considering the two sets were produced years apart.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=35864.msg1844521.msg#1844521

FoC_Tow · « **Reply #30 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 10:38:58 »

I would prefer dropping alt Gr rather then right alt, but I'm pretty ok with both.

Prefer the clean looks of just Alt

billnye · « **Reply #31 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:20:40 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:26:52

Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53
I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but as a US ANSI user I like using Alt & AltGr. Would many people be opposed to dropping the second Alt and being "forced" to use AltGr?

If you're going to do this you might as well drop the text shift keys. If you want to leave in the ISO keys I would leave the ANSI ones as well.

HoffmanMyster · « **Reply #32 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:21:47 »

Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:20:40

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:26:52
Quote from: billnye on Fri, 19 February 2016, 07:20:53
I would suggest dropping r5 and alt gr.

Maybe I'm alone in this, but as a US ANSI user I like using Alt & AltGr. Would many people be opposed to dropping the second Alt and being "forced" to use AltGr?
If you're going to do this you might as well drop the text shift keys. If you want to leave in the ISO keys I would leave the ANSI ones as well.

I'd rather drop the non-text shift keys, personally...

azhdar · « **Reply #33 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:23:05 »

#AltGrShallStandStrong

romevi · « **Reply #34 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:25:12 »

I'd rather drop nothing.

aaron6301 · « **Reply #35 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 11:41:51 »

I'd be in for a set or two.

darkclone24 · « **Reply #36 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 12:35:47 »

I'd be in for a set.

I'd prefer to have Alt Gr, I'm not worried about R5 and I'd love a purple Win Key.

whmeltonjr · « **Reply #37 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 12:55:28 »

LechnerDE · « **Reply #38 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 13:24:42 »

Count me in for a set

Photekq · « **Reply #39 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 13:42:01 »

The key selection is perfect as is.

Catering to everyone is not something that's usually an option with GMK, but with a small set like this it is. We can have every key that anyone could possibly want without having an astronomical price. Catering to everyone is something we should aim towards whenever it is viable. In this case it's viable, as was proven with ghostjuggernaut/radio_killah's RGB set.

romevi · « **Reply #40 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 14:00:19 »

When I first joined the RGBYK (when it was a geekhack-only thing) I thought the key selection was a bit excessive and priced adequately high, but I joined anyway.
Now that I have a bit more knowledge and a couple of more boards (and planning others for the future), I realize how perfect the selection is. The R5 caps are wonderful, and I hope the CMYK follows suit.

You should just do a series of these with the same key selections; next will be RGBYW and after that CMYW.

honeynugget · « **Reply #41 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 14:12:56 »

I'm in for a set. Purple windows and menu keys would be awesome.

polentA · « **Reply #42 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 19:20:40 »

Finally! I'm in for this one.

kaiwwww · « **Reply #43 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 22:38:41 »

no win no menu no fn

madhias · « **Reply #44 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 22:47:00 »

I am interested, and would also love Alt Gr! But that is absolutely not that important to have, would be nice though.

ATXTider · « **Reply #45 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 22:49:06 »

Add some winkeys and let's do eet!

switchnollie · « **Reply #46 on:** Fri, 19 February 2016, 23:58:24 »

Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Fri, 19 February 2016, 09:26:52

I'd love to see fn keys in Cyan and Magenta.

Same here

I'm all about the fn keys.

loud_asian · « **Reply #47 on:** Sat, 20 February 2016, 00:07:00 »

I'd be in for 2 sets

naasfu · « **Reply #48 on:** Sat, 20 February 2016, 14:56:23 »

i am liking the set and will be ordering.

purple win keys would be really nice. and i think it's a good idea to pay for GMK sorting so that everyone gets their sets sooner and to prevent GB organizer burnout.

xondat · « **Reply #49 on:** Sat, 20 February 2016, 14:58:15 »

Would buy, think I prefer key over white tbh.

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