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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #300 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 08:58:52 »
in my opinion, the fight is only between SA Dasher and Nautilus
but you have my vote Dasher!  :-*
I love you at first sight hahaha

Nah, we don't need to fight each other.  The problem is the limited manufacturing ability.  What we need is to fight for more (or improved) manufacturers!  Imagine a world of 1 week queues for 10 MOQ sets in any profile and any colorway.  A boy can dream, right?   :p

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #301 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:23:47 »
Honeywell is another one where the colors are only half the story. Without high-profile spherical keycaps, it doesn't really deserve to be called Honeywell, IMO.
I can agree with that, but I don't have the patience to wait for a 7bit GB. :)

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #302 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 09:43:28 »
in my opinion, the fight is only between SA Dasher and Nautilus
but you have my vote Dasher!  :-*
I love you at first sight hahaha

Nah, we don't need to fight each other.  The problem is the limited manufacturing ability.  What we need is to fight for more (or improved) manufacturers!  Imagine a world of 1 week queues for 10 MOQ sets in any profile and any colorway.  A boy can dream, right?   
Plus, I think the prices would drop, too, to be more competitive.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #303 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 10:31:13 »
The PLANCK kit is sculptured:

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The profile of the ergo kit and the planck kit is (1)2344, while that of the other kits is 112343.(according to the renders in the first page)
I know it dosen't matter in actual use but still can't help noticing the difference.
Is there any special reason you choose (1)2344 for the ergo kit and the planck kit instead of (1)2343?

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #304 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:27:24 »
in my opinion, the fight is only between SA Dasher and Nautilus

Nautilus is a very pretty colorway. However, it is GMK which means cylindrical, and I don't use cylindrical. For me, the only reason I like seeing lots of GMK ICs is that it relieves some of the pressure off of SP's limited manufacturing capacity.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #305 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:28:14 »
Honeywell is another one where the colors are only half the story. Without high-profile spherical keycaps, it doesn't really deserve to be called Honeywell, IMO.
I can agree with that, but I don't have the patience to wait for a 7bit GB. :)

Honestly, I can't say that I blame you.

However, I am into Round 6 to the bitter end...

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #306 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:29:25 »
The PLANCK kit is sculptured:

(Attachment Link)

The profile of the ergo kit and the planck kit is (1)2344, while that of the other kits is 112343.(according to the renders in the first page)
I know it dosen't matter in actual use but still can't help noticing the difference.
Is there any special reason you choose (1)2344 for the ergo kit and the planck kit instead of (1)2343?

I based my profile choices for those two kits on what I saw in the PuLsE and Godspeed sets, which were also 112343 for the main set. Naturally I just assumed that is what Planck and Ergo users would want.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #307 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 12:47:46 »
The PLANCK kit is sculptured:

(Attachment Link)

The profile of the ergo kit and the planck kit is (1)2344, while that of the other kits is 112343.(according to the renders in the first page)
I know it dosen't matter in actual use but still can't help noticing the difference.
Is there any special reason you choose (1)2344 for the ergo kit and the planck kit instead of (1)2343?

I based my profile choices for those two kits on what I saw in the PuLsE and Godspeed sets, which were also 112343 for the main set. Naturally I just assumed that is what Planck and Ergo users would want.
The bottom row of Godspeed's Planck kit was row 3, though.
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #308 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 13:35:53 »
Well, if that last row should be row 3 profile, it is easy to change, but I would need to do so quickly because MassDrop is already asking for quotes from SP. Is there a consensus about this?

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #309 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 13:45:46 »
Maybe a strawpoll?

http://www.strawpoll.me/11782709

PSA - THIS IS NOT ZSLANE'S POLL, JUST THROWING IT UP FOR EXAMPLE. 

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #310 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 13:58:27 »
Well, if that last row should be row 3 profile, it is easy to change, but I would need to do so quickly because MassDrop is already asking for quotes from SP. Is there a consensus about this?
I think it should match the profile of the full set.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #311 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 14:32:54 »
So what keys should be in row 4 profile? Obviously at least one Shift and an Enter key. Should there be a second Shift? Any others? Godspeed only provides two Shifts and an Enter.
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #312 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:01:21 »
So what keys should be in row 4 profile? Obviously at least one Shift and an Enter key. Should there be a second Shift? Any others? Godspeed only provides two Shifts and an Enter.
I think you'd be safe going with what Godspeed had. I don't recall any complaints about the planck kit and it looks like they sold a good quantity.

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« Reply #313 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:47:07 »
So what keys should be in row 4 profile? Obviously at least one Shift and an Enter key. Should there be a second Shift? Any others? Godspeed only provides two Shifts and an Enter.
I think that should basically be it. However, it might be easier for me to tell if you compiled all the kits into the OP.

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« Reply #314 on: Fri, 02 December 2016, 15:54:05 »
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #315 on: Sat, 03 December 2016, 02:29:24 »
in my opinion, the fight is only between SA Dasher and Nautilus
but you have my vote Dasher!  :-*
I love you at first sight hahaha

Nah, we don't need to fight each other.  The problem is the limited manufacturing ability.  What we need is to fight for more (or improved) manufacturers!  Imagine a world of 1 week queues for 10 MOQ sets in any profile and any colorway.  A boy can dream, right?   :p

of course we don't need to fight, Peace!  Right, but Don't forget about our wallet  :p
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #316 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 03:02:54 »
How does this look for the new PLANCK kit?

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #317 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 06:43:52 »
How does this look for the new PLANCK kit?

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It don't see anything wrong with it. Are you going to revise the ErgoDox kit as well? For its bottom row to be row 4 when those of the rest of the kits are row 3 seems to be the exception and not the norm.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #318 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 10:31:14 »
Are you sure about the ErgoDox kit? I looked at Godspeed, PuLsE, Jukebox, and Troubled Minds, and in every case the bottom row keys were all row 4. Dasher/Dancer is exactly the same as all of those sets. Godspeed and PuLsE have bottom row 3 profile in their base layouts, so does that mean that both of their ErgoDox kits are wrong?
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #319 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 10:49:41 »
Is this support 65 layout ?
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #320 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 11:01:26 »
The base kit supports a standard TKL layout, so that should cover a 65-key board.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #321 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 11:14:38 »
Are you sure about the ErgoDox kit? I looked at Godspeed, PuLsE, Jukebox, and Troubled Minds, and in every case the bottom row keys were all row 4. Dasher/Dancer is exactly the same as all of those sets. Godspeed and PuLsE have bottom row 3 profile in their base layouts, so does that mean that both of their ErgoDox kits are wrong?
Notice that I said "when those of the rest of the kits are row 3." Most of those sets are 1-1-2-3-4-4, with the exception of those of MiTo, who seems to do things differently. The bottom rows of ErgoDox kits of 1-1-2-3-4-3 sets like The Amazing Chocolatier, Round 5, and Mechanist are row 3.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #322 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 11:35:32 »
Ah, okay. Thanks for pointing that out. I will adjust the ErgoDox kit.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #323 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 12:48:58 »
The base kit supports a standard TKL layout, so that should cover a 65-key board.

No i mean like tada68's layout where you need 1u fn, alt and ctrl. And that vertical row at the most right of the keyboard, like whitefox's layout
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #324 on: Sun, 04 December 2016, 14:35:00 »
Yes, the SPECIALTY kit has you covered there.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #325 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:03:43 »
Woohoo!  Gratz!  Looking forward to Monday now.


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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #326 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:35:09 »
I really hope zslane got around to trying to get VE.A compatibility. Congrats on getting your idea off the ground zslane, I'm buying it first thing Monday morning (and have been saving up for it).

You should open a GB thread!! :D

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #327 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 16:55:16 »
I'm sorry to say there's no VE.A kit this time around. Maybe if there's a round 2?

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #328 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 17:33:02 »
I'm sorry to say there's no VE.A kit this time around. Maybe if there's a round 2?

Sounds good. Still going in on this. :)

BTW your pictures in the OP are dead and I'm looking for one of them. It's the Dasher set with the white giant keyboard render. I didn't save it and it was a very pleasing/relaxing picture to look at. Mind re-uploading it?

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #329 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 17:43:15 »
Try right-clicking on one of the "broken" images and opening it in a new browser tab.

For some reason GH is treating all my images as unreachable even though they are perfectly reachable.

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« Reply #330 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 18:30:32 »
Try right-clicking on one of the "broken" images and opening it in a new browser tab.

For some reason GH is treating all my images as unreachable even though they are perfectly reachable.
For me, the pictures broke at about the same time GH's certificate for something expired, so maybe it has something to do with that? They were always reachable that way for me, too.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #331 on: Thu, 08 December 2016, 19:05:22 »
Well, at least I've been putting aside funds for this for a while now.  Almost there now.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #332 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 13:07:30 »
I've created a [GB] thread in the Group Buys forum but it is awaiting approval. Not sure how long it sits in that state, but hopefully the thread will become approved by the time ordering on MassDrop begins Monday morning.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #333 on: Sat, 10 December 2016, 17:00:06 »
Will there be any add-on novelties if the base set sells a lot? Maybe at least all-symbol mods.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #334 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 02:55:33 »
Novelties are outside the scope of this project. However, hoq has expressed interest in creating novelties that match the Dasher colorway. Keep an eye out for his project should it ever get started.

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #335 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 10:13:05 »
If novelties ever do end up happening, this was my first thought:



The colors in Dasher look almost identical to the Stash blue pack AF1. Now, I realize probably NOBODY on this site would have heard of those, but they are one of the most sought after pairs of shoes made in the past decade. Anyways, it's not important to know that, just providing some background.

My point is, that shade of brown actually looks amazing with these blues, and a few well-placed brown caps in that color could make the set really really unique. I don't know maybe top number keys + alt or something? I've never made a keyset so I haven't done much experimenting.

Is there a quck 2d render template for a "standard" keyset, like the ones I always see in early Interest Check posts? I couldake a few mock-ups to see if it would actually work and if anybody would even like it. I know brown is probably most people's last choice for a set like this, but it really does work somehow.

Also, I know you aren't really interested in any novelties or extras zslane, so I don't want to get this thread too off track. I'll wait to see if hoq ends up making an IC for it.

I just can't wait until July! I don't have any SA sets right now...I did order Godspeed SA which will be here in March, so that will hold me over until Dasher shows up (I think Dasher fits more for my office keyboard)
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #336 on: Sun, 11 December 2016, 15:44:02 »
ErgoDox goodness:

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #337 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:05:52 »
If someone could make an announcement over on Reddit that the drop is now live, I'd appreciate it!

And here's a shout-out to all our Chinese brethren who will help make this drop a huge success! Many thanks in advance.

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« Reply #338 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 10:15:40 »
If someone could make an announcement over on Reddit that the drop is now live, I'd appreciate it!

And here's a shout-out to all our Chinese brethren who will help make this drop a huge success! Many thanks in advance.

Great to finally see it's here  :thumb:. I hope dasher specialty kit hit highest moq  :p
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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #339 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 14:36:58 »
$174.96 to get all the keys for my WhiteFox? UGH

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Re: [IC] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (expected DECEMBER drop)
« Reply #340 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 15:22:04 »
With luck the SPECIALTY kit will reach a better price tier.

If you need ISO compatibility, be prepared to lay waste to your bank account...  :-*

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« Reply #341 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 15:56:10 »
OK, I'm gonna ask a stupid question... Wasn't it determined recently in some thread (may have been this one, don't remember) that SA r2 and r4 were "flippable"? If so, regarding the arrows in the MD, couldn't the set of r2 be eliminated because the up and down arrows already exist in the r4 bunch?
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Then the alternate color r3 set could be added without increasing the cap count and the kits merged into one, likely hitting higher MOQ and resulting in savings for all! :D

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Re: [GB] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (now live on MassDrop)
« Reply #342 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:11:16 »
The problem is if you flip an R4 arrow to put into R2, or vice versa, it points in the wrong direction.

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« Reply #343 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 17:18:37 »
The problem is if you flip an R4 arrow to put into R2, or vice versa, it points in the wrong direction.
If you flip R4 Up arrow it becomes R2 Down arrow, so if you flip R4 Up and Down you get R2 Down and Up, right?

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Re: [GB] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (now live on MassDrop)
« Reply #344 on: Mon, 12 December 2016, 18:04:23 »
Suppose I want the bottom row arrows to be R4 and the up arrow to be R2?

The idea behind the ARROWS kit is that it provides for any combination you might want, not simply all arrows in the same profile.

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Re: [GB] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (now live on MassDrop)
« Reply #345 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 07:59:11 »
I love this set - I don't suppose anyone knows whether there is an import tariff on keycaps bring them into the UK? (keyboards are apparently exempt, though i believe I would owe VAT)

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Re: [GB] SA Dasher and SA Dancer sculptured keysets (now live on MassDrop)
« Reply #346 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 09:16:44 »
Suppose I want the bottom row arrows to be R4 and the up arrow to be R2?

The idea behind the ARROWS kit is that it provides for any combination you might want, not simply all arrows in the same profile.
Fair enough. :)
Out of curiosity, do you run an R2 up arrow with an R4 down arrow?

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« Reply #347 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 12:10:45 »
I don't, but I know at least one user over on DT who does. And I would certainly try it if I had the option.

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« Reply #348 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 13:08:59 »
I love this set - I don't suppose anyone knows whether there is an import tariff on keycaps bring them into the UK? (keyboards are apparently exempt, though i believe I would owe VAT)

I'd love to buy this set :(

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« Reply #349 on: Tue, 13 December 2016, 13:47:03 »
Looks like they haven't updated numbers yet today but already some good numbers on both base sets.  Picking up both base + numpad sets as both look fantastic.