Unpopular Keyboard Opinions

[Herothereu]

i dont really like clacks

Heresy!

Somebody sell me one!

[jonathanyu]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

[Steezus]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

Have you seen a set in person? My opinion on key sets usually changes a lot when I see the set in person, either I love it even more than I thought or maybe not so much.

[jonathanyu]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

Have you seen a set in person? My opinion on key sets usually changes a lot when I see the set in person, either I love it even more than I thought or maybe not so much.

I had a set and sold it already.

[Steezus]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

Have you seen a set in person? My opinion on key sets usually changes a lot when I see the set in person, either I love it even more than I thought or maybe not so much.

I had a set and sold it already.

That's a bummer then, everybody likes different things and that's what sparks creativity. I think the next set I want to check out will be hyperfuse when they show up on bingecaps since I missed the GB.

[hwood34]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

raindrop v2

[trenzafeeds]

Imo the tactile feedback on MX clears just feels like the switch is broken.

[apolotary]

Constant bottom-out typing on Topre gets really annoying after a couple of months of use

[jonathanyu]

All mechanical keyboards include mx, topre, bs.... are over price

[TopreFan333]

All mechanical keyboards include mx, topre, bs.... are over price

I think prices would come down considerably if mechanical keyboards became more popular and manufacturers could scale up.

As popular as this stuff might seem here in the echo chamber of GH, I bet 99%+ of consumers are just using whatever keyboard is lying around.

[Sifo]

ripster did nothing wrong.

[Blaise170]

ripster did nothing wrong.

ooooooh

[trenzafeeds]

ripster did nothing wrong.

ooooooh

aaaaaand RIP this thread

[hwood34]

ripster did nothing wrong.

/thread

[sethk_]

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[HoffmanMyster]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

raindrop v2

?  Are you saying that GMK TA should be renamed Raindrop V2?  Or that it looks the same as V2?  Cause there was already a Raindrop V2.

[hwood34]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

raindrop v2

?  Are you saying that GMK TA should be renamed Raindrop V2?  Or that it looks the same as V2?  Cause there was already a Raindrop V2.

Ugh fine raindrop v3 then. But yes the joke I'm making is that it's raindrop

[HoffmanMyster]

I know it is probably just me, but I think the teal in GMK TA looks like bird **** and I hate it.

raindrop v2

?  Are you saying that GMK TA should be renamed Raindrop V2?  Or that it looks the same as V2?  Cause there was already a Raindrop V2.

Ugh fine raindrop v3 then. But yes the joke I'm making is that it's raindrop

Well I hope I've successfully derailed that joke. 

[spectre]

5. I hate gamer looking or branded keyboards (razer, corsair, logitech, ect.)

Isn't that a popular opinion around here?
Anyway, yeah, they look like something designed by teenagers who think its "rad".

[demik]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

[TastaturenAuslese]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

demik pls.

[hwood34]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

demik pls.

it is kinda silly seeing new makers selling sub par caps for $20+

[TastaturenAuslese]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

demik pls.

it is kinda silly seeing new makers selling sub par caps for $20+

Agree with that doe. I like the new makers who start out selling at reasonable prices like $5 to cover materials, or even giving away their first trial keys.

[jd29]

Why are the rightmost keys in the main cluster so long? This kills the symmetry. How things ought to be:

[Findecanor]

Why are the rightmost keys in the main cluster so long? This kills the symmetry. How things ought to be:

What, are you Johnny Ive or something?  You just described the layout of an Apple keyboard.

On ISO versions of the Apple keyboards, the widest part of the vertical Enter key is 1 u ... That key is a crime against good design.

[Fire Brand]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

On this note I will share my opinion Clacks are meh, I have just been plinking mine around my desk most of today not a crack at the artist  just think they aren't as good as everyone makes them seem but if clack makes some tiddly winks that stuff with be off the walls cool!

[demik]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

On this note I will share my opinion Clacks are meh, I have just been plinking mine around my desk most of today not a crack at the artist  just think they aren't as good as everyone makes them seem but if clack makes some tiddly winks that stuff with be off the walls cool!

He easily has the best color choices. They were all dope as ****.



But then brocaps did the space ****. Took the color crown ez.

[KatzenKinder]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

On this note I will share my opinion Clacks are meh, I have just been plinking mine around my desk most of today not a crack at the artist  just think they aren't as good as everyone makes them seem but if clack makes some tiddly winks that stuff with be off the walls cool!

Ehhh if you don't like it that much you can give to me :v

[pr0ximity]

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

On this note I will share my opinion Clacks are meh, I have just been plinking mine around my desk most of today not a crack at the artist  just think they aren't as good as everyone makes them seem but if clack makes some tiddly winks that stuff with be off the walls cool!

The skulls were good once upon a time, and I can understand the respect Clack gets. But his Ogres are really where it's at. The first skull I got was out the door pretty quick once I saw it in person. The design just doesn't hold up well offline to me, but they definitely look great with a macro lens.

I second new "artisans" starting out at the $20+ range ridiculous. Hell I dislike that the "big name" artisans are now retailing at higher prices. But I'm not super familiar with material costs so who am I to say. And I'll gladly pay for the impressive work Binge and Bro have been pulling out lately (and without a doubt Hipster if he decides to make caps again).

[cgbuen]

Single-toned keysets should be run more often than they have been. While I like the original Cherry beige scheme, any new two(or more)-toned keysets are starting to get really stale.

Also, ascribing qualities of food to keycaps or other keyboard goods, particularly comments like "that looks delicious", is tacky and embarassing.

[Oobly]

Why are the rightmost keys in the main cluster so long? This kills the symmetry. How things ought to be:

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QWERTY is inherently asymmetrical, particularly as regards the home row. If you centre the keyboard around F and J, you realise the whole right side is 1.5x too wide, forcing you to angle your hands to the left when you have the main alpha area centre on to the display.

Here's a "balanced" layout:



But as you can see, we have to chop off 2 keys to make it fit.

This can be fixed by splitting the spacebar to provide more keys and then you get this:



Which has the added benefits of:
1. not requiring stabilisers AT ALL
2. making use of the thumbs more effectively.

[keshley]

Mini-USB. It's not a better standard people!

First of all, I don't understand all the people who complain about micro-USB. Be glad they're using a standardized cable! It really bugs me when a vendor uses a non-standardized cable, just one more thing that'll end up costing me extra money.

But please, get over mini-USB. For the past several years, I've had zero mini-USB devices. Except for my stupid keyboards! What the hell. I don't want to have to keep track of yet another cable end. Move out of the '00s please, and let us only need one connection type! Chances are if you're breaking a micro-USB cable, or port, you'd be breaking the mini-USB cable/port too!

And the argument that micro-USB is flawed in regards to lateral movement? Seriously, what are you doing with your keyboard? Its a static object. Why is there lateral movement on your keyboard cable??? Are you swinging it like a flail!? That's like arguing that nobody should buy a Prius because it can't tow a boat.

[azhdar]

If you plug and unplug your keyboard a lot, a mini seems more solid, also when you rotate through multiple boards, it's better to have a standard.

for sure if you plug it once and never move/unplug it, the connector doesn't matter.

[apolotary]

And the argument that micro-USB is flawed in regards to lateral movement? Seriously, what are you doing with your keyboard? Its a static object. Why is there lateral movement on your keyboard cable??? Are you swinging it like a flail!? That's like arguing that nobody should buy a Prius because it can't tow a boat.

I haven't done any jerky movements with cable or whatsoever and still got this:



Also I would like to complain about "sturdy" build quality that Matias keyboard has, as I'm not the only user who's having that problem with SMD-mounted micro-USB connector

[keshley]

I used mini for years when every peripheral used it. Broken a couple. Mini I have yet to break. Anecdotal, sure, but if you make a low quality plug, it doesn't matter what form factor it is, it'll break.

In other words, if the manufacturer uses a low quality micro plug, it'll break. But, if they use a low quality mini-plug? It'll still break.

One of my keyboards travel, so the cable gets detached a lot. It still gets plugged and unplugged a whole lot less than, say, my tablet. Which is a couple years old, and uses a quality micro plug. It feels plenty solid, just like the day I bought it.

And let's be realistic here: If number of insertions and strength of the connector were as big a factor as people like to claim, we'd be using neither, but rather full-size USB-A or USB-B. Not like there isn't room on the back of a keyboard for them.

[apolotary]

Break the cycle, go Bluetooth

and then have problems with mini/micro chargers, batteries, connectivity, protocols, and tons of other crap instead 

[keshley]

I don't have any issues with either connector, I just don't like how keyboards seem to be stuck in the past. Stick with the current standard, which isn't mini-USB.

Hopefully USB-C will be adopted fairly quickly, as it seems to be superior to both. It has the same expected insertion cycles of micro-USB, slightly thicker than micro-USB, and, of course, orientation agnostic. And doesn't require USB 3.1, so can be used on 'older' USB 2.0 ports as well, which most people have.

[Snowdog993]

I just don't like how keyboards seem to be stuck in the past.

In the future, you might actually appreciate a real keyboard from the past.

[Oobly]

And the argument that micro-USB is flawed in regards to lateral movement? Seriously, what are you doing with your keyboard? Its a static object. Why is there lateral movement on your keyboard cable??? Are you swinging it like a flail!? That's like arguing that nobody should buy a Prius because it can't tow a boat.

I haven't done any jerky movements with cable or whatsoever and still got this:

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Also I would like to complain about "sturdy" build quality that Matias keyboard has, as I'm not the only user who's having that problem with SMD-mounted micro-USB connector

That's a flawed soldering job. The metal tabs from the case didn't have solder adhered to them properly (cold joints). I'd sent it back for at least a refund of the board.

MicroUSB is rated for more insertions and removals and is more solid overall. Nokia switched pretty early in the phone scene and didn't look back. I think keyboards should have, too.

[keshley]

I just don't like how keyboards seem to be stuck in the past.

In the future, you might actually appreciate a real keyboard from the past.

I get what you're saying 

Older != better.
By the same token, newer != better.

I think a lot of people jump through a lot of hoops to get older items to work with their modern systems. Sometimes that's because it offers some advantage/feature the newer items don't, sometimes its rose-tinted.

I think we tend to misjudge how good some things were. I know I've picked up something I remember from years ago and though "Wow, seemed a lot nicer back in the day."

Now, generally speaking, I will say that a lot of gear was over-engineered 20+ years ago, so tends to feel more solid, and last way longer than was intended.

From a keyboard point of view, I don't miss AT or PS/2 connectors. I certainly don't miss the massive IBM Model M keyboards (waste of space IMO). I never liked the 101+ key layout anyways. I do think that the keycap quality has gone done in quality a lot. But I'm comparing it to the typewriters of 40 years ago, not the keyboards of 30 years ago. I also think a Topre TKL version of the original MS Natural Keyboard would be heaven, so take all my opinions with a grain of salt (as should be done with any opinion) 

I'm not using a 30 year old PC, or even a 5 year old PC. I can get the same, or similar typing experience I've had in the past 20 years from a new board just as well as an old one. I don't think asking for a modern option for connecting my input devices is asking a lot.

[inanis]

I'm not using a 30 year old PC, or even a 5 year old PC. I can get the same, or similar typing experience I've had in the past 20 years from a new board just as well as an old one. I don't think asking for a modern option for connecting my input devices is asking a lot.

To be fair though, no one is saying you have to stick with a PS/2 connection just because that is what came with the board originally. I use an SSK at home, and it uses a USB cable. Sure as hell didn't come that way from the factory! I have the original PS/2 cable as well, in the event I need it. As for a more complex switch, like taking a terminal board and converting it, the challenge is part of the appeal. Some people like to tinker with with things and make them their own. I can understand that isn't for everyone.  Older boards can give you a totally different typing experience. Is it tinged with a bit of nostalgia? Sure, but I think that is part of the experience.

As for unpopular opinions, I think keysets like Dolch and Classic Beige are boring as hell. They have their place, and they do look timeless and classic and all that, but there is no excitement to it at all.

[CPTBadAss]

As for unpopular opinions, I think keysets like Dolch and Classic Beige are boring as hell. They have their place, and they do look timeless and classic and all that, but there is no excitement to it at all.

i hope the artisan bubble pops soon.

tired of seeing new "makers" bringing out **** just to get a quick buck.

demik pls.

it is kinda silly seeing new makers selling sub par caps for $20+

Ya'll read my mind exactly.

[apolotary]

And the argument that micro-USB is flawed in regards to lateral movement? Seriously, what are you doing with your keyboard? Its a static object. Why is there lateral movement on your keyboard cable??? Are you swinging it like a flail!? That's like arguing that nobody should buy a Prius because it can't tow a boat.

I haven't done any jerky movements with cable or whatsoever and still got this:

Show Image

Also I would like to complain about "sturdy" build quality that Matias keyboard has, as I'm not the only user who's having that problem with SMD-mounted micro-USB connector

That's a flawed soldering job. The metal tabs from the case didn't have solder adhered to them properly (cold joints). I'd sent it back for at least a refund of the board.

MicroUSB is rated for more insertions and removals and is more solid overall. Nokia switched pretty early in the phone scene and didn't look back. I think keyboards should have, too.

I bought it used so no refunds for me. Luckily a friend of mine agreed to replace it for me, so I hope everything will work out

[alldayrelief]

-I dislike artisan caps and would never let one near my keyboard. They look tacky and give off a vibe similar to that of a large and unnecessary spoiler on a car
-Backlit keyboards are pointless. I'd compare their utility to that of car underglow

[digi]

-I dislike artisan caps and would never let one near my keyboard. They look tacky and give off a vibe similar to that of a large and unnecessary spoiler on a car
-Backlit keyboards are pointless. I'd compare their utility to that of car underglow

Electricity is also dumb, we shouldn't do anything.

[HoffmanMyster]

The skulls were good once upon a time, and I can understand the respect Clack gets. But his Ogres are really where it's at. The first skull I got was out the door pretty quick once I saw it in person. The design just doesn't hold up well offline to me, but they definitely look great with a macro lens.

I actually had the opposite experience.  )  I was one of the "artisans are stupid, why would I put that on my keyboard" people for the longest time, and Binge broke that cycle with his work.  But I still wasn't sold on Clacks.  It wasn't until I borrowed one, put it on my keyboard, and *touched* it that it all clicked for me (hehe, pun).    They just feel so...right... And then of course I fell in love with the design and went off the deep end of artisan caps... 

[demik]

I'm not using a 30 year old PC, or even a 5 year old PC. I can get the same, or similar typing experience I've had in the past 20 years from a new board just as well as an old one. I don't think asking for a modern option for connecting my input devices is asking a lot.

To be fair though, no one is saying you have to stick with a PS/2 connection just because that is what came with the board originally. I use an SSK at home, and it uses a USB cable. Sure as hell didn't come that way from the factory! I have the original PS/2 cable as well, in the event I need it. As for a more complex switch, like taking a terminal board and converting it, the challenge is part of the appeal. Some people like to tinker with with things and make them their own. I can understand that isn't for everyone.  Older boards can give you a totally different typing experience. Is it tinged with a bit of nostalgia? Sure, but I think that is part of the experience.

As for unpopular opinions, I think keysets like Dolch and Classic Beige are boring as hell. They have their place, and they do look timeless and classic and all that, but there is no excitement to it at all.

yeah im real ****ing tired of all things dolch.

dolch this dolch that.

rehashing same keysets over and over.

ffs let it go already.

[apolotary]

Galaxy keycap set color scheme is meh at best. I also don't get why massdrop keeps re-running it every few months.

[spectre]

A contradiction is not an argument.

Yes it is

[Jokrik]

I'm bored having my keyboard , on the table and just being pressed over and over again
can't we do anything else with it?