Unpopular Keyboard Opinions

[dante]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets).

SA is good. Will agree DSA and DCS aren't great by any means.

G20's are my favorite caps.  I wish they could put some legends on them.

[demik]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

[inanis]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

I have no issues with DSA or SA by SP. DCS though, I dunno why anyone would go that route when they could get cherry profile instead, which is much more available these days. Not to mention more affordable with several new manufacturers in the picture. SP DCS is thin as hell. It just doesn't hold up against other, similarly profiled, yet thicker options.

On topic: I love to type on worn, shiny caps.

[ideus]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

I have no issues with DSA or SA by SP. DCS though, I dunno why anyone would go that route when they could get cherry profile instead, which is much more available these days. Not to mention more affordable with several new manufacturers in the picture. SP DCS is thin as hell. It just doesn't hold up against other, similarly profiled, yet thicker options.

On topic: I love to type on worn, shiny caps.

This is not by any means unpopular, just be welcome to the club.

[demik]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

I have no issues with DSA or SA by SP. DCS though, I dunno why anyone would go that route when they could get cherry profile instead, which is much more available these days. Not to mention more affordable with several new manufacturers in the picture. SP DCS is thin as hell. It just doesn't hold up against other, similarly profiled, yet thicker options.

On topic: I love to type on worn, shiny caps.

it all feels the same to me. i dont get it. thick, thin, cherry, oem. pbt/abs.. all feels the same.

[HoffmanMyster]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

I have no issues with DSA or SA by SP. DCS though, I dunno why anyone would go that route when they could get cherry profile instead, which is much more available these days. Not to mention more affordable with several new manufacturers in the picture. SP DCS is thin as hell. It just doesn't hold up against other, similarly profiled, yet thicker options.

On topic: I love to type on worn, shiny caps.

it all feels the same to me. i dont get it. thick, thin, cherry, oem. pbt/abs.. all feels the same.

Take your gloves off.

[inanis]

it all feels the same to me. i dont get it. thick, thin, cherry, oem. pbt/abs.. all feels the same.

It's all about the thickness....

Seriously tho, I used to feel the same way, but I love my GMK caps. They are super smooth and the thickness provides a nice sound when I type. I have cherry profile PBT too, but I like the ABS better. There is a large part of this that is psychological for sure. But my fingers love that smooth ABS.

I feel the same as you about only about  spring weights. Everyone is all like "I just swapped my 65g springs for 67g and WOW, what a difference!". And I'm over here like, I can't tell a damn bit of difference, wtf are they on about?. When there is more varience, sure, but not at such small intervals.

[demik]

it all feels the same to me. i dont get it. thick, thin, cherry, oem. pbt/abs.. all feels the same.

It's all about the thickness....

Seriously tho, I used to feel the same way, but I love my GMK caps. They are super smooth and the thickness provides a nice sound when I type. I have cherry profile PBT too, but I like the ABS better. There is a large part of this that is psychological for sure. But my fingers love that smooth ABS.

I feel the same as you about only about  spring weights. Everyone is all like "I just swapped my 65g springs for 67g and WOW, what a difference!". And I'm over here like, I can't tell a damn bit of difference, wtf are they on about?. When there is more varience, sure, but not at such small intervals.

like legit, the only time i've notice a difference was with this pbt spacebar on my hhkb. the sound was just wonderful. everything else.. meh. even this bsp pbt caps feel no different than cherry GMK ****. maybe i just dont have sensitive fingers or some ****.

[jbondeson]

I feel the same as you about only about  spring weights. Everyone is all like "I just swapped my 65g springs for 67g and WOW, what a difference!". And I'm over here like, I can't tell a damn bit of difference, wtf are they on about?. When there is more varience, sure, but not at such small intervals.

The spring thing seriously gets me.

I so want to double blind test so many of these things. Like switch stickers, certain lube scenarios...

Quick someone get me a grant to study this!

[ideus]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

[njbair]

Here is an unpopular opinion:

Every SP key cap set I have used feels like cheap junk (granted I have not used any SA sets). 

in what way? everybody ****s on SP but never says why it's ****. i feel like a ton of you just ride cherry **** because it's a popular thing to do.

I have no issues with DSA or SA by SP. DCS though, I dunno why anyone would go that route when they could get cherry profile instead, which is much more available these days. Not to mention more affordable with several new manufacturers in the picture. SP DCS is thin as hell. It just doesn't hold up against other, similarly profiled, yet thicker options.

On topic: I love to type on worn, shiny caps.

it all feels the same to me. i dont get it. thick, thin, cherry, oem. pbt/abs.. all feels the same.

Take your gloves off.

Is demik really Strong Bad?

[jbondeson]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

Cause when people find their "best" typing experience they then shout it from the rooftops and get the less experienced to buy snake oil, and then we're just the  equivalent of the audiophile crowd but $300 cables when $5'll do.

[ideus]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

Cause when people find their "best" typing experience they then shout it from the rooftops and get the less experienced to buy snake oil, and then we're just the  equivalent of the audiophile crowd but $300 cables when $5'll do.

Only a deeply naive individual believes someone else's best experience may be her own.

[Snowdog993]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

Cause when people find their "best" typing experience they then shout it from the rooftops and get the less experienced to buy snake oil, and then we're just the  equivalent of the audiophile crowd but $300 cables when $5'll do.

Heck you can spend less on 14-gauge lamp cord.  Get a spool, done.

[SamirD]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

Cause when people find their "best" typing experience they then shout it from the rooftops and get the less experienced to buy snake oil, and then we're just the  equivalent of the audiophile crowd but $300 cables when $5'll do.

Only a deeply naive individual believes someone else's best experience may be her own.

Well said sir.  If only more people in the world had the ability to comprehend such wisdom...

[priyadi]

• Artisan keycaps are ugly.
• I really despise keyboards with steep inclination, and by extension, just about 90% of Korean customs keyboards.
• All ABS keycaps must be in glossy finish. Why bother doing it in matte, when keycaps will get glossier and glossier over time?
• I hate HHKB's second layer. Arrows must be in home row.

[ideus]

• Artisan keycaps are ugly. (Even more if you consider their insanely high resale prices)
• I really despise keyboards with steep inclination, and by extension, just about 90% of Korean customs keyboards. (Negative tilt is the best ergonomic position for keyboards, who make them the opposite).
• All ABS keycaps must be in glossy finish. Why bother doing it in matte, when keycaps will get glossier and glossier over time? (This is why OG DS Cherry rocks)
• I hate HHKB's second layer. Arrows must be in home row. (I hate the evangelists on Topre and HHKB)

[retrochick]

60% keyboards don't need metal plates, or plates of any sort.
LEDs are gimmicky
Cherry over CoStar stabs

[nephiel]

Dedicated numpads, like arrow keys, are just a waste of space when your board has programmable layers, since you can make them appear on the home row at any time right where your fingers already are.

Graffiti™ is the best text input method ever for touchscreen devices. Seriously, onscreen keyboards are so dumb and unsuitable for the task I think their designers are trolling on purpose. "Let's take a computer board, shrink it down to unmanageable size and put it on a flat surface where you can't tell where keys are by touch alone". Good grief.

60% keyboards don't need metal plates, or plates of any sort.
LEDs are gimmicky
Cherry over CoStar stabs

You need a plate to hold the switches if you don't use a PCB. I agree about the LEDs and stabs though.

[ramnes]

• Artisan keycaps are ugly.

Yeah. I find most of them objectively ugly, but I still want them, don't know really why, maybe this is for their rarity or just to complete the keyboard collection. I think I'm a huge victim of the mechanical keyboard consumer society.

• I really despise keyboards with steep inclination, and by extension, just about 90% of Korean customs keyboards.

Yeah this is dumb, but it doesn't make me not use them. Korean keyboards have so much more than any other keyboard, it's just sad they all are so inclined.

• All ABS keycaps must be in glossy finish. Why bother doing it in matte, when keycaps will get glossier and glossier over time?

• I hate HHKB's second layer. Arrows must be in home row.

Yep. Already said this on that same topic.

[E3E]

Yeah. I find most of them objectively ugly, but I still want them, don't know really why, maybe this is for their rarity or just to complete the keyboard collection. I think I'm a huge victim of the mechanical keyboard consumer society.

This is the aspect I hate most about the effect this community has on me. I'm glad to really not have any care for artisans, but the feeling can strike me hard if I need something to finish a build or any projects.

If I hadn't gone on any side projects or bothered exploring Alps land, I'd have been able to buy about 4-5 different Korean customs by now. I've ended up sticking to just buying further versions of the Octagon and Lightpad and ignoring all other GBs in terms of purchase. I have a semi-practical view, but I still get bit with wanting to buy too many things at once sometimes.

[HoffmanMyster]

60% keyboards don't need metal plates, or plates of any sort.
LEDs are gimmicky
Cherry over CoStar stabs

These are all really popular too (in increasing order). I think three or four people have mentioned LEDs in the last two pages of this thread and lots of people agreed.

And I think in the three years I've been in this hobby I've heard maybe two or three people prefer costar over cherry stabs - if that.

[SamirD]

Graffiti™ is the best text input method ever for touchscreen devices.

I completely agree!  I was bummed when my palm treo wasn't just one touch screen that could allow the use of Graffiti.  When you got it down, you could easily type almost as fast as you could write, if not a little faster.

[jbondeson]

If you finally have found the best typing experience, who cares if it was due to a placebo effect.

Cause when people find their "best" typing experience they then shout it from the rooftops and get the less experienced to buy snake oil, and then we're just the  equivalent of the audiophile crowd but $300 cables when $5'll do.

Only a deeply naive individual believes someone else's best experience may be her own.

And only a very naive individual thinks that they are completely unswayed by others opinions.

In the absence of fact all you're left with is opinion. And without infinite funds and access, people rely on others for reviews.

So yeah, some controlled tests would bring some of these opinions that are highly dependent upon biases into sharper relief.

[RominRonin]

The (mis)alignment of nearly every keyboard ever is old fashioned, and any company that doesn't reconsider the qwerty layout as the default is dumb, stupid and shouldn't be allowed to earn money from keyboard sales.

[Snowdog993]

The (mis)alignment of nearly every keyboard ever is old fashioned, and any company that doesn't reconsider the qwerty layout as the default is dumb, stupid and shouldn't be allowed to earn money from keyboard sales.

What does that mean?  Are you saying that all keyboards are old fashioned, and all keyboard companies should reconsider having a QWERTY layout?  Maybe you can elaborate on what layout would work best for everyone out there.  I am sure you have something in mind that would make you more money from keyboard sales, right?

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Makes sense.

[retrochick]

60% keyboards don't need metal plates, or plates of any sort.
LEDs are gimmicky
Cherry over CoStar stabs

These are all really popular too (in increasing order). I think three or four people have mentioned LEDs in the last two pages of this thread and lots of people agreed.

And I think in the three years I've been in this hobby I've heard maybe two or three people prefer costar over cherry stabs - if that.

What if I thought my (in reality popular) keyboard opinions where unpopular. And so that makes my opinions unpopular?! 

[ideus]

Keyboards are tools; therefore, anything that turns them otherwise and does not add to their usefulness, is a waste of money and time:


- Artisian's.
- LEDs.
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- [size=78%]fill your own here.[/size]

[E3E]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

[ideus]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

[SamirD]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

lol!

[Nai_Calus]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

[ideus]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

Get rid of them.

[SamirD]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

Get rid of them.

http://bridesthrowingcats.com/

[ideus]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

Get rid of them.

http://bridesthrowingcats.com/

This is one the weirdest things I have seen recently.

[njbair]

And only a very naive individual thinks that they are completely unswayed by others opinions.

This reminds me of a quote from A. A. Milne:

The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.

[ika]

I got a 55g Realforce today and I prefer 45g. They might do better in an HHKB but everyone treats 55g Topre like the holy ****in grail.

[dutC4]

 

[azhdar]

I got a 55g Realforce today and I prefer 45g. They might do better in an HHKB but everyone treats 55g Topre like the holy ****in grail.

mx clears and 55g topre

so much hype for these two things you feel stupid if you don't try them out then you feel stupid when you do

Clears are great when spring swapped and lubbed, stock clears is indeed meh.

[digi]

Ergo Clears, 55g Topre, and Salmon Alps = best switches NA.

[SamirD]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

Get rid of them.

http://bridesthrowingcats.com/

This is one the weirdest things I have seen recently.

This is what happened when I  searched for 'throwing cats', lol.  Pretty hilarious once you realize they're all fake.

[dante]

It's okay to trash rubberdomes for being crappy as long as I can trash all mechanicals for being crappy because all I've tried is a TVS-e Gold and Ducky XM.

[Steezus]

It's okay to trash rubberdomes for being crappy as long as I can trash all mechanicals for being crappy because all I've tried is a TVS-e Gold and Ducky XM.

Trash talking something for it's poor quality is different than trash talking something because you have not tried it, it's two completely different animals.

[temporal]

I really liked the addon that got banned from the recent MD Otaku set 

[ideus]

A popular unpopular opinion is that LEDs are trivial and needless.

An unpopular popular opinion is that LEDs add an amazing bedazzling aspect to a keyboard, and that we should pray to the RGB gods to grace us with their glorious rainbow light.

That said, I don't mind it either way.

LEDs are useful as lock indicators, if you want more lights get x-mas tree.

I have cats and can't have an xmas tree, so how about I get a keyboard instead.

Get rid of them.

http://bridesthrowingcats.com/

This is one the weirdest things I have seen recently.

This is what happened when I  searched for 'throwing cats', lol.  Pretty hilarious once you realize they're all fake.

Imagine a bride throwing cats instead of flowers.

[dante]

It's okay to trash rubberdomes for being crappy as long as I can trash all mechanicals for being crappy because all I've tried is a TVS-e Gold and Ducky XM.

Trash talking something for it's poor quality is different than trash talking something because you have not tried it, it's two completely different animals.

Just tired of the "ewwww rubber domes so attrocious!"  Hey maybe you don't like them, but if you are going to judge ALL of them based on a select few - then you deserve to be called out.

[Snowdog993]

Just tired of the "ewwww rubber domes so attrocious!"  Hey maybe you don't like them, but if you are going to judge ALL of them based on a select few - then you deserve to be called out.

That's true.

Or the folks that won't even touch a buckling spring keyboard.
Some are more influenced by others more influenced by others.

Hmm.

[jonathanyu]

I really liked the addon that got banned from the recent MD Otaku set 

the rising sun?

[dante]

I really liked the addon that got banned from the recent MD Otaku set 

the rising sun?

Yes.  Apparently there are some who are offended by the image.

If they are that offended it is curious that they would be interested in a Japanese character keyset.  Perhaps if they are so offended they should take it a step further and ban all Japanese products from Korea - including Realforce and Filco keyboards.

[Steezus]

I really liked the addon that got banned from the recent MD Otaku set 

the rising sun?

Yes.  Apparently there are some who are offended by the image.

If they are that offended it is curious that they would be interested in a Japanese character keyset.  Perhaps if they are so offended they should take it a step further and ban all Japanese products from Korea - including Realforce and Filco keyboards.

It's about the symbol means, it's the same as the Germans taken offense to the Swastika. It represents a dark time in their countries past, you're logic is very flawed in saying that all Japanese products should be banned because they take offense to a symbol. Realforce and Filco have nothing to do with atrocities linked to rising sun flag. I suggest you do a little reading, http://thewandereronline.com/why-one-should-never-use-the-japanese-rising-sun-flag-by-dongwoo-kim/