Unpopular Keyboard Opinions

[FLFisherman]

Led's are cancerous to the eyes and look childish when in public.
MX Browns are terrible  so are reds.

the most popular unpopular opinions in the world

At this point is it even an "unpopular" opinion? Seems like most people agree (not me though, I like my LEDs  ).

[hwood34]

Led's are cancerous to the eyes and look childish when in public.
MX Browns are terrible  so are reds.

the most popular unpopular opinions in the world

At this point is it even an "unpopular" opinion? Seems like most people agree (not me though, I like my LEDs  ).

I'm pretty sure half the forum hates LEDs considering it's every third post here

[Waateva]

Led's are cancerous to the eyes and look childish when in public.
MX Browns are terrible  so are reds.

the most popular unpopular opinions in the world

Meh, I'm fine having one board with LEDs as some keysets look nice with them, but I would only use a LED board at home.

[demik]

CHERRY SUCKS

[davkol]

Geekhack is easier to read, when demilk is muted. I'm not sure, if that's unpopular though.

[frogthejam19]

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

[demik]

Geekhack is easier to read, when demilk is muted. I'm not sure, if that's unpopular though.

demilk? Never heard of him.

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

Linear is no different than rubberdome. Clicky cherry is where it's at if I HAD to use cherry.

[jerue]

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

There's a difference between right and wrong. Both wrong.

[frogthejam19]

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

There's a difference between right and wrong. Both wrong.

Thats an odd way of saying that Clack and click is the best.

[Waateva]

Geekhack is easier to read, when demilk is muted. I'm not sure, if that's unpopular though.

demilk? Never heard of him.

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

Linear is no different than rubberdome. Clicky cherry is where it's at if I HAD to use cherry.

Does demik **** wit' buckling springs then?

[chyros]

Led's are cancerous to the eyes and look childish when in public.
MX Browns are terrible  so are reds.

the most popular unpopular opinions in the world

At this point is it even an "unpopular" opinion? Seems like most people agree (not me though, I like my LEDs  ).

I'm pretty sure half the forum hates LEDs considering it's every third post here

Personally I think backlighting can make a keyboard look rather vulgar and showy if it's done badly. Integrated lock light LEDs are pretty cool though . Does anyone not like those?

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

"Suck" is a relative term . I don't hate Cherry switches or anything, but I can think of a better alternative to each and every single Cherry MX switch.

[demik]

Geekhack is easier to read, when demilk is muted. I'm not sure, if that's unpopular though.

demilk? Never heard of him.

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

Linear is no different than rubberdome. Clicky cherry is where it's at if I HAD to use cherry.

Does demik **** wit' buckling springs then?

Nah. Boards are god damn boats. Hhkb size or nada

[jd29]

CHERRY SUCKS

This. Especially blues, they're so tinny.

[jamster]

This. Especially blues, they're so tinny.

Just think of them as fake buckling springs.

Cheap sounding, fake buckling springs.

[Waateva]

CHERRY SUCKS

This. Especially blues, they're so tinny.

The Blues on my DS do sound a little tinny, however, I think the worst board I ever had for that tinny sound was the ABS M1.  I swear the thing would almost ring when typing fast.

[E3E]

Led's are cancerous to the eyes and look childish when in public.
MX Browns are terrible  so are reds.

the most popular unpopular opinions in the world

At this point is it even an "unpopular" opinion? Seems like most people agree (not me though, I like my LEDs  ).

I'm pretty sure half the forum hates LEDs considering it's every third post here

Personally I think backlighting can make a keyboard look rather vulgar and showy if it's done badly. Integrated lock light LEDs are pretty cool though . Does anyone not like those?

CHERRY SUCKS

Please. Only Linear Switches suck. Blues and Greens are great and are a godsend when you want to break the ice in public or to end a annoying silence in room.

"Suck" is a relative term . I don't hate Cherry switches or anything, but I can think of a better alternative to each and every single Cherry MX switch.

Ugh, yeah. The LEDs on my Octagon are an example of something I find nigh vulgar. If only the brightness adjustment worked as it should. The diminished and diffused look of the LEDs on my Hammer Alps board really compliments the grey and blue caps, I think, and I just love the look. To me, I feel it really completes the look when the board is on my desk, especially as the bottom row LEDs shimmer of the glossy black of my wrist rest.



On both the Lightpad and Octagon, the LEDs are way too bright. That's fine though, because I plan on swapping the Lightpad to ALPS with a custom carbon fiber num pad plate to go with my Hammer!

[swimmingbird]

All linears including gat blacks suck

[SploogeFactory]

All linears including gat blacks suck

Agree, linear is terrible.

[MAR82]

All linears including gat blacks suck

Agree, linear is terrible.

Amen

[bocahgundul]

Linear is the anly cherry that I like

[azhdar]

Linear is the anly cherry that I like

Wait to try V.browns son.

[phosphoric]

i'm sure this has been posted, but the hhkb layout is pure TRASH. my hand has to contort to use the arrow keys, i keep hitting backspace and enter when i try to just press backspace, even after my muscle memory has adjusted, and switching back to a normal keyboard is a pain in the ass. the shift of the caps lock and the ctrl to its position is nice, but caps lock works much, much better as an fn key. the point of having a 60% board is so that you don't have to move your hands from your default typing position to access all the keys on the keyboard, and the fn's position on the hhkb means i have to shift my entire hand to the right. with how much i have to move, i might as well just get traditional arrow keys so i don't have to try to hard just to move my cursor one position to the left.

topre is a great switch, though

[Olumin]

i'm sure this has been posted, but the hhkb layout is pure TRASH. my hand has to contort to use the arrow keys, i keep hitting backspace and enter when i try to just press backspace, even after my muscle memory has adjusted, and switching back to a normal keyboard is a pain in the ass. the shift of the caps lock and the ctrl to its position is nice, but caps lock works much, much better as an fn key. the point of having a 60% board is so that you don't have to move your hands from your default typing position to access all the keys on the keyboard, and the fn's position on the hhkb means i have to shift my entire hand to the right. with how much i have to move, i might as well just get traditional arrow keys so i don't have to try to hard just to move my cursor one position to the left.

topre is a great switch, though

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right. 

[hwood34]

OK, OP is still around. Can we update the OP with all the popular unpopular opinions e.g LEDs are stupid, Cherry sucks, topre sucks, linears suck?

[livingspeedbump]

i'm sure this has been posted, but the hhkb layout is pure TRASH. my hand has to contort to use the arrow keys, i keep hitting backspace and enter when i try to just press backspace, even after my muscle memory has adjusted, and switching back to a normal keyboard is a pain in the ass. the shift of the caps lock and the ctrl to its position is nice, but caps lock works much, much better as an fn key. the point of having a 60% board is so that you don't have to move your hands from your default typing position to access all the keys on the keyboard, and the fn's position on the hhkb means i have to shift my entire hand to the right. with how much i have to move, i might as well just get traditional arrow keys so i don't have to try to hard just to move my cursor one position to the left.

topre is a great switch, though

wrong.  )

[phosphoric]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

wrong.  )

that's entirely fair lol. i cant refute this

[livingspeedbump]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

[phosphoric]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

honestly i always just assumed that it was out of my price range and im too lazy to learn how to make one out of a teensy but i just checked the prices... and goddammit i have no excuse now

[livingspeedbump]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

honestly i always just assumed that it was out of my price range and im too lazy to learn how to make one out of a teensy but i just checked the prices... and goddammit i have no excuse now

Yeah, quite affordable. better off just buying the controller than making one all day long when it comes to the HHKB.

[phosphoric]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

honestly i always just assumed that it was out of my price range and im too lazy to learn how to make one out of a teensy but i just checked the prices... and goddammit i have no excuse now

Yeah, quite affordable. better off just buying the controller than making one all day long when it comes to the HHKB.

i definitely agree - a $200+ keyboard doesnt deserve a messy, makeshift connection to a teensy

[livingspeedbump]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

honestly i always just assumed that it was out of my price range and im too lazy to learn how to make one out of a teensy but i just checked the prices... and goddammit i have no excuse now

Yeah, quite affordable. better off just buying the controller than making one all day long when it comes to the HHKB.

i definitely agree - a $200+ keyboard doesnt deserve a messy, makeshift connection to a teensy

yup, my thoughts exactly

[Connly33]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

[livingspeedbump]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

[Olumin]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

For media use, skipping in YT videos and volume up and down, also quite useful for typing when you gut used to it.

[Olumin]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

There are a few 60% layout keyboards available which offer a dedicated arrow-key cluster, although wouldn't that make it a 65% layout? However, I'm not an expert on these, I know about the leopold fc660c, but that's probably just because it has topre switches. I would actually probably use the leopold instead of my current HHKB if it just wouldn't be standard layout. I love my backspace above enter, I could never return...

[Connly33]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

It's kind of funny... when i think about it i cant think of any really critical things i need them for, but i really do notice them not being there, kind of like a built up muscle memory.  Mainly for daily use, like when i'm typing a url and want to go a few spaces to the left or right to modify it, or if i make a typing mistake, the fastest way for me to fix it is to bring the cursor over with the arrow keys, so mostly casual word processing for me. It's a lot slower for me to use the mouse for things like that.

I also use them in Sony Vegas and really heavily in Kodi media center as i dont have a dedicated remote for my desktop.

[Connly33]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

There are a few 60% layout keyboards available which offer a dedicated arrow-key cluster, although wouldn't that make it a 65% layout? However, I'm not an expert on these, I know about the leopold fc660c, but that's probably just because it has topre switches. I would actually probable use the leopold instated of my current HHKB if it would be standard layout. I love my backspace above enter, I could never return...

Ive seen a few custom layouts that include the arrow keys, or the 75% layout is a bit interesting, but i really am loving my 60%, for now im using it as my main keyboard and the board i bring around with my laptop. So ill probably just get a numpad for the desk for the time being.

Edit:

i have considered remapping my \ to backspace and vice versa so that my backspace is right above enter, as my pinky really doesnt like going that far to reach the backspace.

[Olumin]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

There are a few 60% layout keyboards available which offer a dedicated arrow-key cluster, although wouldn't that make it a 65% layout? However, I'm not an expert on these, I know about the leopold fc660c, but that's probably just because it has topre switches. I would actually probable use the leopold instated of my current HHKB if it would be standard layout. I love my backspace above enter, I could never return...

Ive seen a few custom layouts that include the arrow keys, or the 75% layout is a bit interesting, but i really am loving my 60%, for now im using it as my main keyboard and the board i bring around with my laptop. So ill probably just get a numpad for the desk for the time being.

I really got used to the HHKB arrow-key layout, if I'm thinking about it, Its actually more comfortable to use then a dedicated cluster for me at this point.

Edit: About the remapping, that's of course feasible, but what would be the former backspace key good for then, I'd had to give a reasonable use, I can not really thing of anything right now.

[Connly33]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

There are a few 60% layout keyboards available which offer a dedicated arrow-key cluster, although wouldn't that make it a 65% layout? However, I'm not an expert on these, I know about the leopold fc660c, but that's probably just because it has topre switches. I would actually probable use the leopold instated of my current HHKB if it would be standard layout. I love my backspace above enter, I could never return...

Ive seen a few custom layouts that include the arrow keys, or the 75% layout is a bit interesting, but i really am loving my 60%, for now im using it as my main keyboard and the board i bring around with my laptop. So ill probably just get a numpad for the desk for the time being.

I really got used to the HHKB arrow-key layout, if I'm thinking about it, Its actually more comfortable to use then a dedicated cluster for me at this point.

Edit: About the remapping, that's of course feasible, but what would be the former backspace key good for then, I'd had to give a reasonable use, I can not really thing of anything right now.

I really like the HHKB arrow layout, though i have not yet had a chance to use one, or a board of a similar layout yet, i do want to get an HHKB eventually for the layout and to try topre switches. 

[Olumin]

I suppose this isn't an unpopular opinion, but im really missing my arrow keys on my 60%, i dont miss dedicated function keys, or the numpad, just arrows, media keys slightly but not as much, I know i can fix that with layers on my GH60 satan based board, but i may pic up a cheap numpad to use for dedicated arrow keys.

There are a few 60% layout keyboards available which offer a dedicated arrow-key cluster, although wouldn't that make it a 65% layout? However, I'm not an expert on these, I know about the leopold fc660c, but that's probably just because it has topre switches. I would actually probable use the leopold instated of my current HHKB if it would be standard layout. I love my backspace above enter, I could never return...

Ive seen a few custom layouts that include the arrow keys, or the 75% layout is a bit interesting, but i really am loving my 60%, for now im using it as my main keyboard and the board i bring around with my laptop. So ill probably just get a numpad for the desk for the time being.

I really got used to the HHKB arrow-key layout, if I'm thinking about it, Its actually more comfortable to use then a dedicated cluster for me at this point.

Edit: About the remapping, that's of course feasible, but what would be the former backspace key good for then, I'd had to give a reasonable use, I can not really thing of anything right now.

I really like the HHKB arrow layout, though i have not yet had a chance to use one, or a board of a similar layout yet, i do want to get an HHKB eventually for the layout and to try topre switches.

When it comes to topre keyboards, its really just a matter of preference regarding the layout. If you want your standard full sized board without any crazy layouts or perhaps a plain 10 key-less, you go with a Realforce, you want a 60%? You get a HHKB. You like your arrow-key cluster? You get the Leopold. In the end, it really just comes down to these 3. There is of course the Typeheaven, but only if you don't mind the ABS Laserd Keycaps and lower build quality, in the end, its a budged-Topre board,

[E3E]

ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

[Steezus]

ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

I wonder if you clear coat the caps and then sand the majority of the coating off would end with good results.

[Connly33]

ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

id imagine it would work well if you used either a lower air pressure, or maybe less abrasive glass bead sandblasting, maybe baking soda sand blasting for a finer texture.

[davkol]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

Well, if you don't use software with vi/emacs bindings, it's pretty much the only way to reposition cursor, other than grabbing the mouse (or some other pointing device). The same with scrolling, moving around in a file manager, etc. Windows-like GUIs shove it down everybody's throat by default. Some games have default/hard-coded motion bindings @ WASD/arrows.

[E3E]

ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

id imagine it would work well if you used either a lower air pressure, or maybe less abrasive glass bead sandblasting, maybe baking soda sand blasting for a finer texture.

ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

I wonder if you clear coat the caps and then sand the majority of the coating off would end with good results.

I like both of these ideas. If the clear was something that could be wiped off with acetone, then that'd be fine for PBT. Like, I can see that as a temporary fix leading up to using a blaster for it. I love the idea of retexuring using a sandblaster. Truly a process that would require patience and experimentation, but it'd be an awesome way to restore otherwise awesome keysets.

[jamster]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

How do you navigate around an Office (or the equivalent) document (Word, but especially Excel) quickly at a granular level without arrow keys? Or more infrequently but specifically, for quickly navigating around a BIOS screen. New PC motherboards come with graphical interfaces, but it feels just... wrong... to use a mouse there.

Just typing the above sentence, I used the arrow keys a bunch of times to add in the phrase contained in the first set of brackets.

The only other way I can think of to navigate is with a mouse, and that's really inefficient for moving the cursor small distances as taking a hand away from the keyboard detracts from fluid typing. And a mouse is nowhere near as quick+granular.

[davkol]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

snip

I guess the point is that use cases differ. I tried to address that in my last post.

For example, I don't use any office suite on regular basis; I don't navigate BIOS settings either (well, more often than once in a few years anyway); I prefer to use emacs bindings in text editor (btw see It's All Text! extension for Firefox) and shell.

[digi]

Im just curious, what do people use arrow keys for? With programming, gaming, daily use, I've never found that I really use them or want them, much less need them.

How do you navigate around an Office (or the equivalent) document (Word, but especially Excel) quickly at a granular level without arrow keys? Or more infrequently but specifically, for quickly navigating around a BIOS screen. New PC motherboards come with graphical interfaces, but it feels just... wrong... to use a mouse there.

Just typing the above sentence, I used the arrow keys a bunch of times to add in the phrase contained in the first set of brackets.

The only other way I can think of to navigate is with a mouse, and that's really inefficient for moving the cursor small distances as taking a hand away from the keyboard detracts from fluid typing. And a mouse is nowhere near as quick+granular.

I'm onboard with ya! The basic american megatrends bios menu was all we needed!! GET YOUR MOUSE OUT OF MY BIOS SCREEN!!

[phosphoric]

The HHKB Layout is designed for people who don't miss their dedicated arrow-key cluster, if you cant live without it, the HHKB is not the right board for you, perhaps you should take a look at the Leopold leopold fc660c instead. Also, using the DIP switches, you can turn the left Meta key into a FN key, that way you don't have to move all the way to the right.

HASU controller. It's all you need 
oh yeah, i know, but either way i have to end up shifting my hand to the right for arrow keys. i love 60% boards, don't get me wrong, but having the arrow keys on ijkl  and my fn key on caps lock (on both my pok3r and custom alps64) has really spoiled me and made me too lazy to move my hand to the right 3 fingers hahaha

Hasu's controller is all you need then 

honestly i always just assumed that it was out of my price range and im too lazy to learn how to make one out of a teensy but i just checked the prices... and goddammit i have no excuse now

Yeah, quite affordable. better off just buying the controller than making one all day long when it comes to the HHKB.

i definitely agree - a $200+ keyboard doesnt deserve a messy, makeshift connection to a teensy

yup, my thoughts exactly

jk i thought about it and still dislike the layout of the hhkb. if there were two extra buttons on the bottom row...

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ABS and PBT both suck.


When shined. :3

I'm always so disappointed when vintage boards end up having shined caps. It's far too common. It's not so much that they are shiny as it is that that is indicative of a loss of texture. I have heard people using sand blasters to retexture caps, albeit in some really grazing way I'm sure, because a sand blaster would annihilate a key cap for sure.

I really want to do this. Retexture old sets! I know matte clear coat could do it, but that feels wrong.

I wonder if you clear coat the caps and then sand the majority of the coating off would end with good results.

Or maybe a quick shot of some textured spray paint? They have that rock like finish, they might be good with a quick spray on the top.