Unpopular Keyboard Opinions

[zombimuncha]

Topre is way over-hyped.

After reading all the praise, I bought an 87U 55g and all I can say is meh...

Try a HHKB. Much nicer. I went from 87u 55g to HHKBT, and I don't use the 55g anymore.

I also do not care for the HHKB layout......but they do look nifty.

The layout takes about a week to get used to, but once you get used to it you can never go back to other layouts. I have all of my boards with Control and Caps switched, and if I can I get them all with the diamond arrows too. Such a nice layout once you give it a try

I tried the layout for a day, until I found that to do a sequence like Ctrl-C, Ctrl-Shift-F, Crtl-V I would have to change which finger I pushed Ctrl with in the middle of the sequence. That's when I noped out of the swapped Ctrl-Caps scene.

I don't understand?

C, F, and V are all right next to eachother.
You should just be able to hold control with your pinky and press all three

It starts out fine with the pinky on Ctrl for Ctrl-C, but then for Ctrl-Shift-F I have to move my pinky down to Shift and hit Ctrl with my ring finger.

[clankgy1]

Demik was nice enough to let me borrow his lubed and silenced HHKB for a test drive as I considered having the same work done on mine.

I HATE LUBED AND SILENCED HHKBs.  Not a popular opinion, but I found the lubed/silenced HHKB lacked the very noise characteristics I like about the HHKB, the keys felt mushy, and the reduced key travel was noticeable.  My suggestion would be to try such a board before inflicting this kind of mod on it unless you enjoy the prospect of eternal disappointment.

[Giorgio]

Demik was nice enough to let me borrow his lubed and silenced HHKB for a test drive as I considered having the same work done on mine.

I HATE LUBED AND SILENCED HHKBs.  Not a popular opinion, but I found the lubed/silenced HHKB lacked the very noise characteristics I like about the HHKB, the keys felt mushy, and the reduced key travel was noticeable.  My suggestion would be to try such a board before inflicting this kind of mod on it unless you enjoy the prospect of eternal disappointment.

silenced with hypershpere washers or with landing pads?

landing pads are way thicker

[clankgy1]

Demik was nice enough to let me borrow his lubed and silenced HHKB for a test drive as I considered having the same work done on mine.

I HATE LUBED AND SILENCED HHKBs.  Not a popular opinion, but I found the lubed/silenced HHKB lacked the very noise characteristics I like about the HHKB, the keys felt mushy, and the reduced key travel was noticeable.  My suggestion would be to try such a board before inflicting this kind of mod on it unless you enjoy the prospect of eternal disappointment.

silenced with hypershpere washers or with landing pads?

landing pads are way thicker

No idea on specifics of mods.  I didnt' care for it, and am thankful my HHKB has full thock.

[Niomosy]

Topre is way over-hyped.

After reading all the praise, I bought an 87U 55g and all I can say is meh...

Try a HHKB. Much nicer. I went from 87u 55g to HHKBT, and I don't use the 55g anymore.

I also do not care for the HHKB layout......but they do look nifty.

The layout takes about a week to get used to, but once you get used to it you can never go back to other layouts. I have all of my boards with Control and Caps switched, and if I can I get them all with the diamond arrows too. Such a nice layout once you give it a try

Untrue.  I had Sun keyboards that I used for my primary job which were in the HHKB layout.  I gleefully went back to a standard ANSI board after months straight on what is the HHKB layout.  As a layout designed to work with UNIX and vi, I found it worse than ANSI for those specific purposes.

Also, the HHKB lacks a lot of things like arrow keys and function keys not on a second layer - less ergonomic for me as the Fn Num combinations create more pain than simply moving my hand a little bit further up to hit that function key.

[potatobot]

Have you ever tried the Space-Fn concept? If you have not, it is advisable to try it and to see if you can use it, if so maybe a sixty layout is for you; otherwise you should go with Fox or FC-660 similar layouts.

Im not really familiar with the Space-FN concept, im not too fond with having too many fn layers too. Yeah im opting for something like a 66key or 68key. I guess i wont miss the Function keys too much compared to the dedicated arrows.

My preference is for a 60 or 65% keyboard.  I do like dedicated arrow keys, but it's nice when they are included on the home row and you don't have to move your hand or look at your board to access them.  You could also get a 60% board and have a separate numberpad including arrow keys and have the best of both worlds.

I was looking at cheaper 66-68-keys that doesnt look like va68 or fc660 or MF 68.

I prefer the layout of WF, RS, TADA? maybe? hehe i guess ill have to wait for more reviews.

the separate numpad is a no go for me i want 1 single keyboard for my needs 

[sncbraxsc2]

I like full size keyboards

[alienman82]

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[sncbraxsc2]

I like full size keyboards

due 101% is best size

Is that like an AEK style? I've never heard of 101% Or do you mean like 101 key style? I would agree with that, I love wkl layout

[alienman82]

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[captsis]

Razer keyboards arent that bad if you get one for cheap

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

[potatobot]

Razer keyboards arent that bad if you get one for cheap

Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

Nah id rather be spending my small amount of cash on something else tho. 

[keyladding]

Razer keyboards aren't that bad if you pay a lot for it.

[y11971alex]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

[mike52787]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

[Niomosy]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

MX blues for starters.  I'd rather be on rubber domes.  Though, to be fair to blues, I haven't tried greens yet which are everything I don't like about blues, but with the added weight I also don't like.

[mike52787]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

MX blues for starters.  I'd rather be on rubber domes.  Though, to be fair to blues, I haven't tried greens yet which are everything I don't like about blues, but with the added weight I also don't like.

True. Anything is better than cherry switches with the exception of clears.  I would rather type on a scissor switch or a good quality rubberdome.

[Niomosy]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

MX blues for starters.  I'd rather be on rubber domes.  Though, to be fair to blues, I haven't tried greens yet which are everything I don't like about blues, but with the added weight I also don't like.

True. Anything is better than cherry switches with the exception of clears.  I would rather type on a scissor switch or a good quality rubberdome.

At the moment, my favorite switches are MX reds.  Would love to try out some hall effect switches if they ever manage to get them into production.  Haven't tried Topre, though I'm more a linear switch fan.

[mike52787]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

MX blues for starters.  I'd rather be on rubber domes.  Though, to be fair to blues, I haven't tried greens yet which are everything I don't like about blues, but with the added weight I also don't like.

True. Anything is better than cherry switches with the exception of clears.  I would rather type on a scissor switch or a good quality rubberdome.

At the moment, my favorite switches are MX reds.  Would love to try out some hall effect switches if they ever manage to get them into production.  Haven't tried Topre, though I'm more a linear switch fan.

Try alps SKCL green and never use mx reds again

[Niomosy]

IBM rubber domes are better than Cherry MX Browns

anything is better than mx browns

MX blues for starters.  I'd rather be on rubber domes.  Though, to be fair to blues, I haven't tried greens yet which are everything I don't like about blues, but with the added weight I also don't like.

True. Anything is better than cherry switches with the exception of clears.  I would rather type on a scissor switch or a good quality rubberdome.

At the moment, my favorite switches are MX reds.  Would love to try out some hall effect switches if they ever manage to get them into production.  Haven't tried Topre, though I'm more a linear switch fan.

Try alps SKCL green and never use mx reds again

Need some MX sliders or something there so I can us my MX compatible caps.  Really want to try Gateron reds and yellows to be honest.

[E3E]

Is this an opinion?

[pixelpusher]

Matias Clicky feels like I pulled the board out of a dumpster... and it's perfect... it is endgame.  Yet I still try others because what the hell else is there to do in life.

[nickheller]

I liked my matias quiet clicks more than all the old / vintage alps switches I tried

[Fictiouz]

I liked my matias quiet clicks more than all the old / vintage alps switches I tried

You also like MX Reds more than the sweet feel of cup rubber

[Moistgun]

I liked my matias quiet clicks more than all the old / vintage alps switches I tried

You also like MX Reds more than the sweet feel of cup rubber

I prefer hydro over another keyboard.

[mike52787]

I liked my matias quiet clicks more than all the old / vintage alps switches I tried

*pukes*

[alienman82]

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[davkol]

I've never tried matias, but I can't imagine them being very good compared to real SKCM

Not even wrong…

[Tesyu]

I agree with your opinion on HHKB and topre.
But I think 60% and arrow keys are compatible,such as XD60,Pure pro.

[Vagabond]

eBay artisans are fairly priced

[alienman82]

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[zacheadams]

eBay artisans are fairly priced

I just wish there were more listings.

[jonathanyu]

keyboard is just keyboard
$5 rubberdome is enough

[mushman]

keyboard is just keyboard
$5 rubberdome is enough

Agreed.  Wish they made a tenkeyless K120 or DT35.

[kittenpolice]

Does the fact that the stems / top of the switches are exposed here have a name? Whatever this phenomenon is called, I hate it and am bothered by keyboards that have it.

[mushman]

Does the fact that the stems / top of the switches are exposed here have a name?

It's referred to as "floating keys design" or "viki style" in South Korea.

[ideus]

I have read names like Floating-key design

Ups! someone already posted the same,

[eksuen]

Does the fact that the stems / top of the switches are exposed here have a name? Whatever this phenomenon is called, I hate it and am bothered by keyboards that have it.

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I don't like it either. I think it changes aesthetics and the sound of typing for the worse.

[E3E]

I think floating key designs can be nice in some cases, but I too prefer high profile cases. As stated, they have better acoustics and eliminate that "naked," incomplete look that some of these floating-key boards can have.

[kittenpolice]

Does the fact that the stems / top of the switches are exposed here have a name?

It's referred to as "floating keys design" or "viki style" in South Korea.

I have read names like Floating-key design

Ups! someone already posted the same,

Ah thank you for telling me.

[xtrafrood]

Does the fact that the stems / top of the switches are exposed here have a name?

It's referred to as "floating keys design" or "viki style" in South Korea.

I have read names like Floating-key design

Ups! someone already posted the same,

Ah thank you for telling me.

I've read blog posts and forum posts that describe it as a 'low profile case' (floating key). afaik there is no 'high profile case', just a regular profile and low profile.

[E3E]

I've read blog posts and forum posts that describe it as a 'low profile case' (floating key). afaik there is no 'high profile case', just a regular profile and low profile.

I think that's all relative to current trends and standards though. Low profile in the 1970s was not low profile in the 1980s, and the vintage boards of the 1980s are certainly not considered low-profile today.

Relative to the floating key look, you can consider cases with walls that conceal the switches to be high profile, and it's a good and easy way to make the distinction especially if the majority of aftermarket cases for a particular layout happen to be low profile, like with 60% keyboards.

[mike52787]

I too hate low profile 60% cases, but high profile aluminium 60% cases are sooo expensive. The 15$ plastic ones from china rent too bad though.

[xtrafrood]

I've read blog posts and forum posts that describe it as a 'low profile case' (floating key). afaik there is no 'high profile case', just a regular profile and low profile.

I think that's all relative to current trends and standards though. Low profile in the 1970s was not low profile in the 1980s, and the vintage boards of the 1980s are certainly not considered low-profile today.

Relative to the floating key look, you can consider cases with walls that conceal the switches to be high profile, and it's a good and easy way to make the distinction especially if the majority of aftermarket cases for a particular layout happen to be low profile, like with 60% keyboards.

Sorry, yea you're totally right. I was thinking along the lines of modern keyboard design rather than the full gauntlet of keyboard case height profiles.

[blackriver]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

 

[alienman82]

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[mike52787]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

maybe not #3

maybe yes #3

[fublamchu]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

maybe not #3

are any of these particularly unpopular? (not quite sure about #4)

[nubbinator]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

maybe not #3

Classic Alps>>>>>>>MX>>Matias Alps

[alienman82]

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