Unpopular Keyboard Opinions

[E3E]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

Yes, my man, Alps switches are indeed ****ing sick.

[blackriver]

are any of these particularly unpopular? (not quite sure about #4)
[/quote]

Well, if you ask the gaming community 1 & 2 are unpopular. But on here they might be a more common opinion lol.

[xtrafrood]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

[ideus]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

They are not, they tend to bend or brake easily.

[xtrafrood]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

They are not, they tend to bend or brake easily.

Yup. This keyboard is melting my face off

[E3E]

I like scissor switch laptop keyboards. At least the ones from my old laptops that aren't isolated island-style and more like volcano style or whatever.

[streetwizzur]

variable topre is nice for gaming

[DanB]

SA is overrated.

[cribbit]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.

I'm not seeing it be that overpriced anymore. Fullsize board was $40, I got a noppoo choc mini rgb for $70 the other day, and we're about to see a big jump in custom boards with RGB backlighting.

I do agree that it's not much more than a fun party trick, but it's a damn pretty party trick.

[iLLucionist]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

Actually couple of years back I want raging coz my Mac hang and I lost hours of work. Pulled out half my keys from my Apple Aluminum Keyboard. Simply pushed them back and all was fine 

[menuhin]

This thread is a lot of fun!

Instead of seeing it as just a 'haters' thread, I read lots of very wise opinions of veteran keyboard users and enthusiasts. I think these discussions deserve even a sub-forum called "Unpopular keyboard opinions" so that each 'unpopular' topic (e.g. about usability, or manufacturers' trends) can get more focused discussions in their own threads, instead of all buried under this one single thread.

[xtrafrood]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

Actually couple of years back I want raging coz my Mac hang and I lost hours of work. Pulled out half my keys from my Apple Aluminum Keyboard. Simply pushed them back and all was fine 

Try that on an HP Elite Wireless

[iLLucionist]

I think scissor switch modifiers are awesome. I love how easy they are to take apart and put back together.

Actually couple of years back I want raging coz my Mac hang and I lost hours of work. Pulled out half my keys from my Apple Aluminum Keyboard. Simply pushed them back and all was fine 

Try that on an HP Elite Wireless

Raged once on a Trust keyboard. Had to buy a new one. Fortunately, I don't rage anymore.

[cicada]

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[YoshiCaps]

I hate the num pad, I can't see why anyone would use it.

[xondat]

I hate the num pad, I can't see why anyone would use it.

Data entry? You don't need to move your hand whereas you do with the numrow. You can keep one hand on a numpad, and the other on your mouse.

[YoshiCaps]

wow, must be ergonomic  )

[xtrafrood]

I switched my mouse hand partly because of the numpad. I'm not a number cruncher but I do use the numpad for viewport switching when I'm doodling in the 3D. Today was my first go at doodling with the mouse in my left hand, it was pretty neat. I've 'photoshopped' with my left hand before but for me, that rarely requires the numpad.

[YoshiCaps]

eh, I want to get an external numpad and get it were the macros are and vice versa.

[YoshiCaps]

MX clears arelike black switches on steroids

[YoshiCaps]

When you buy keycaps, just switch out the wasd not the WHOLE FRICKING BOARD 

[potatobot]

MX clears arelike black switches on steroids

WHUT? clears are tactile mate while blacks are linear. You cant say they are just heavier than blacks coz they have a tactile bump.

agree on them being too heavy tho.

[YoshiCaps]

I meant the heaviness, not the fact that they were lenier. They are good for rts's however.

[potatobot]

When you buy keycaps, just switch out the wasd not the WHOLE FRICKING BOARD 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=50202.0;topicseen

and on the side note, you can buy wasd caps/gamer caps .

[potatobot]

I meant the heaviness, not the fact that they were lenier. They are good for rts's however.

Then you should say they are like mx browns on steroids.

coz blacks are linear, and saying blacks with steroids would mean a linear switch which is heavier. duh

[YoshiCaps]

Oh I love the white ones corsair sells for their strafe boards, but having puppies and skulls on every key is like a macbook sticker gone wrong.

[YoshiCaps]

Good point about the browns, i'd say they are like non clicky blues on steroids like a brown on steroids like you said.

[potatobot]

Oh I love the white ones corsair sells for their strafe boards, but having puppies and skulls on every key is like a macbook sticker gone wrong.

I like swaping out some keys but for the ones i use all the time, id like to keep them simple. I have 1 artisan which is on the scroll key for that reason.

Good point about the browns, i'd say they are like non clicky blues on steroids like a brown on steroids like you said.

You're making it hard for yourself mate. To make it simple for you.

Lighter switch - Heavier Switch

MX red - MX black  : Linear Switches

MX blue - MX green : Clicky switches

MX brown - MX clear : Tactile switches

[YoshiCaps]

thank you.

[xv]

1. I love ABS, especially if it's doubleshot
2. I love typing on MX Reds

[LiquidEvilGaming]

Quickfire Rapids are exceptionally over rated as a cheap starter board, they have iffy soldering and i'm not insanely impressed.  I would FAR recommend a Ganss G.S 87 before the QFR as it's basically a cheap FILCO.

Seriously though QFR's I feel should be more like $40-50 boards IMO, I have had one before and I totally think the Ganss while lesser known takes a giant dump over the often recommended QFR for budget starter boards. 

[Crapbag]

I meant the heaviness, not the fact that they were lenier. They are good for rts's however.

I disagree. Lenier switches are great.

[atarione]

I love me some MX-REDS... that is right I said it..   I have been rocking my Filco MT2 TKL w/ PBT doubleshots and dampers every day for the last nearly 2 years.

frameless keyboards do nothing for me

keyboards with gradient backlights are quite silly looking.

TKL is the greatest of all keyboard form factors

[livingspeedbump]

I like scissor switch laptop keyboards. At least the ones from my old laptops that aren't isolated island-style and more like volcano style or whatever.

Agreed. These aren't terrible to get stuck using if you have to, can be quite pleasant.

[cribbit]

I like scissor switch laptop keyboards. At least the ones from my old laptops that aren't isolated island-style and more like volcano style or whatever.

Agreed. These aren't terrible to get stuck using if you have to, can be quite pleasant.

Apple's aluminum body keyboards are the only scissor switches I really like. It's a shame the caps get dirty so easily. And that they have the apple pricetag.

[Shaussman]

SA is overrated.

This, easily the ugliest common profile.

Also, 60%s as daily drivers are incredibly inconvenient and overrated

[MandrewDavis]

While Korean TKLs are really nice keyboards, the TKL layout in general is a big waste of space. A 75% layout has all the keys of a TLK and smaller. An 1800/96 key layout is barely larger and includes arrow keys and a numpad.

[mike52787]

While Korean TKLs are really nice keyboards, the TKL layout in general is a big waste of space. A 75% layout has all the keys of a TLK and smaller. An 1800/96 key layout is barely larger and includes arrow keys and a numpad.

Tkls look cooler than 75% boards though. Dont try to talk me out of buying a Kustom!

[slot demon]

Tactile alps switches dont feel good also all matias switches. ABS doubleshot feels good, pbt in the most cases not.

[drevyek]

Tactile alps switches dont feel good also all matias switches. ABS doubleshot feels good, pbt in the most cases not.

Alps switches are very susceptible to tarnish. When they get dirty, or are off by a bit, they can be really quite bad. Rough, uneven, wobbly (especially Matias). However, good Alps switches, that have been cleaned or are NOS, are simply amazing.

I also find some of the switches (creams and blacks specifically) very rough and unpleasant. I haven't had a very good experience with them at all. I assume I'll find some good ones, but the examples that I've used so far have been lackluster at best. Orange Alps, however, are easily some of the best switches I have ever used. They rank with F Buckling Springs in favourability for me. I recommend trying them out, if you haven't. Much smoother, and much cleaner than a lot of the simplified or even later SKCMs.

However, your opinion on caps is indefensible

[klennkellon]

1. RGB is so overhyped, it looks like garbage if you use more than like 3 colors and costs an arm and a leg.
2. After testing any mechanical keyboard ever, I regret having ever typed on a Razer.
3. Alps switches are ******g sick!
4. Keytronic rubber domes actually don't feel half bad.

They're pretty good!

[mike52787]

Tactile alps switches dont feel good also all matias switches. ABS doubleshot feels good, pbt in the most cases not.

Alps switches are very susceptible to tarnish. When they get dirty, or are off by a bit, they can be really quite bad. Rough, uneven, wobbly (especially Matias). However, good Alps switches, that have been cleaned or are NOS, are simply amazing.

I also find some of the switches (creams and blacks specifically) very rough and unpleasant. I haven't had a very good experience with them at all. I assume I'll find some good ones, but the examples that I've used so far have been lackluster at best. Orange Alps, however, are easily some of the best switches I have ever used. They rank with F Buckling Springs in favourability for me. I recommend trying them out, if you haven't. Much smoother, and much cleaner than a lot of the simplified or even later SKCMs.

However, your opinion on caps is indefensible

Do you mean dampened creams? Because undampened creams are the smoothest sharpest tactility Ive ever felt.

[drevyek]

Tactile alps switches dont feel good also all matias switches. ABS doubleshot feels good, pbt in the most cases not.

Alps switches are very susceptible to tarnish. When they get dirty, or are off by a bit, they can be really quite bad. Rough, uneven, wobbly (especially Matias). However, good Alps switches, that have been cleaned or are NOS, are simply amazing.

I also find some of the switches (creams and blacks specifically) very rough and unpleasant. I haven't had a very good experience with them at all. I assume I'll find some good ones, but the examples that I've used so far have been lackluster at best. Orange Alps, however, are easily some of the best switches I have ever used. They rank with F Buckling Springs in favourability for me. I recommend trying them out, if you haven't. Much smoother, and much cleaner than a lot of the simplified or even later SKCMs.

However, your opinion on caps is indefensible

Do you mean dampened creams? Because undampened creams are the smoothest sharpest tactility Ive ever felt.

Damped creams, yeah. Never used undamped creams, as of yet. Hopefully someday...

[danwomansan]

Clicks are overrated and browns actually look attractive to me.

Spacebar rattle is a more acceptable sound than cap clacks.

Scissor switches are genuinely good when new.

[xtrafrood]

Clicks are overrated and browns actually look attractive to me.

Spacebar rattle is a more acceptable sound than cap clacks.

Scissor switches are genuinely good when new.

I removed the scissor switch stabilizer wires on my 'HP Elite' spacebar and it's not that bad without them tbh

[dubious]

Jukebox SA are the ugliest keycaps in existence.

[digi]

Jukebox SA are the ugliest keycaps in existence.

They're in my top 5.

[MandrewDavis]

With 65%, 75%, and 1800-esque custom boards it looks really stupid to do a bottom row of |1.25|1.25|1.25|   6.25   |1.5|1.5|.

Just do a winkeyless row of four 1.5u mods and a 7u spacebar, much better aesthetics.

[menuhin]

With 65%, 75%, and 1800-esque custom boards it looks really stupid to do a bottom row of |1.25|1.25|1.25|   6.25   |1.5|1.5|.

Just do a winkeyless row of four 1.5u mods and a 7u spacebar, much better aesthetics.

Ditching all the function keys and windows keys?

[Data]

With 65%, 75%, and 1800-esque custom boards it looks really stupid to do a bottom row of |1.25|1.25|1.25|   6.25   |1.5|1.5|.

Just do a winkeyless row of four 1.5u mods and a 7u spacebar, much better aesthetics.

Gross.

|1.25|1.25|1.25|   6.25   |1|1|1|  <== infinitely superior to everything you just said.

The 7u spacebar is an obnoxious waste of keyboard real estate.  I'm pretty sure it was invented as a cruel joke.