Author Topic: Keyboard realism  (Read 7794 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Keyboard realism
« on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:15:34 »
The HHKB is the best keyboard in the world.

You heard it from me - The Cherry Picker.

MX5000 does come very, very close though, and MX boards still look nicer. I will forever remain a Cherry romantic.
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline FrostyToast

  • Litshoard
  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 2368
  • Location: Canada
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:17:31 »
GG

It's about time for me too but I have other things to collect first.
Quote from: elton5354
I don't need anymore keyboards

Offline jerue

  • (Whenever that happens :P)
  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1232
  • Location: SC
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:38:19 »
HHKB HG is the best in the world.

Offline FrostyToast

  • Litshoard
  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 2368
  • Location: Canada
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:39:26 »
HHKB HG is the best in the world.

Until you start to factor in the effect of a metal housing on the delicate acoustics of topre switches.
Quote from: elton5354
I don't need anymore keyboards

Offline whmeltonjr

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1119
  • Location: TX
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:39:52 »
Well, OP is correct. Lock it up. Nothing else to do here.

Offline chyros

  • a.k.a. Thomas
  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 3477
  • Location: The Netherlands
  • Hello and welcome.
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:48:44 »
Yeah no.
Check my keyboard video reviews:


Offline mobbo

  • u fk
  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 1135
  • Location: Canada
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #6 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:50:28 »
Yo I'll finally have BS, MX, Topre all under the same roof for once.

Imma find my own answer without all your peer pressure.
Quote from: Binge
crumping is like twerking but it's all about getting low with force.

Offline Vittra

  • Airflow Optimizer
  • Posts: 405
  • Location: Canada
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #7 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:54:55 »
The thread that should not be.
Filco MJ Linear R LE TKL

Offline billnye

  • ability man
  • Posts: 2132
  • Location: NC
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #8 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 10:58:06 »
:] welcome, brother

Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #9 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 11:41:26 »
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #10 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 12:59:04 »
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
To be honest I didn't like it much when it was stock (this is a Type-S), but when I opened it up and lubricated all the sliders it started to feel brilliant. I then installed purple sliders which improved it a little bit again, but it was the lubrication that really made a huge difference.

In its modified state the main thing I like is the feeling of the switch, along with the great keycaps. I don't really like the layout any more than MX5000 or regular TKL, but the switches are just divine. Definitely the best I've used, although vintage browns do come close. Realforce isn't as nice :/
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline chyros

  • a.k.a. Thomas
  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 3477
  • Location: The Netherlands
  • Hello and welcome.
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 12:59:36 »
Check my keyboard video reviews:


Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:04:31 »
May I ask you exactly what you like about it? Maybe people will start believing me when I tell them it's great if another established user says the same.
To be honest I didn't like it much when it was stock (this is a Type-S), but when I opened it up and lubricated all the sliders it started to feel brilliant. I then installed purple sliders which improved it a little bit again, but it was the lubrication that really made a huge difference.

In its modified state the main thing I like is the feeling of the switch, along with the great keycaps. I don't really like the layout any more than MX5000 or regular TKL, but the switches are just divine. Definitely the best I've used, although vintage browns do come close. Realforce isn't as nice :/

Hm, I guess I gotta try out lubed switches. Everybody raves about them. I find the board perfectly fine stock. But I think I'm in the minority there. Same with liking RF topre over hhkb topre. They feel more... smooth? I'm just not a fan of tkl anymore. Anyway, thanks for the response!
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #13 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:08:02 »
Hm, I guess I gotta try out lubed switches. Everybody raves about them. I find the board perfectly fine stock. But I think I'm in the minority there. Same with liking RF topre over hhkb topre. They feel more... smooth? I'm just not a fan of tkl anymore. Anyway, thanks for the response!
Definitely, definitely lubricate them if you can. The difference to me was like night and day. When I first got it I certainly preferred vintage browns and even Nixdorfs, but after modifying the switches it comes out on top. Have you tried a silenced one, or just an absolutely standard one?

I used 50/50 GPL 103 and GPL 205 mix and applied a decent coating to the areas where the sliders go, and also to the sliders themselves :

https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #14 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:19:44 »
I'll give it a try when I get my pro2 back and will report back
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline cmadrid

  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1005
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #15 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:26:39 »
You've sent it off on its voyage already?

Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:27:46 »
It's on it's way to the second person as we speak.
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline Steezus

  • Keeper of Facts
  • * Elevated Elder
  • Posts: 2497
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:29:16 »
demik is our messiah, we may have pushed himself aside and did not believe his teachings but alas he speaks the truth.
TGR-Jane CE | TGR-Tris CE | Lyn Montage | LZ PhysiX | Exclusive e8.5

Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:32:07 »
Hallelujah holla back
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline intelli78

  • Posts: 1503
  • Location: Seattle
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:34:15 »
How did the lube change the feel/sound?
Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

Offline Bromono

  • Wanabe Cicerone
  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1115
  • Location: The Alamo's Basement
  • HHKB > Your Opinion
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #20 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:39:34 »
MX boards still look nicer.

I disagree

128003-0


128005-1
Dis one Ritos


Offline hashbaz

  • Grand Ancient One
  • * Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 5057
  • Location: SF Bae Area
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:40:44 »

Offline demik

  • Pronounced "demique"
  • Posts: 11159
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #22 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:42:55 »
How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.

Cherry with cherry and topre with topre.
No, he’s not around. How that sound to ya? Jot it down.

Offline Bromono

  • Wanabe Cicerone
  • * Destiny Supporter
  • Posts: 1115
  • Location: The Alamo's Basement
  • HHKB > Your Opinion
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:43:08 »
MX boards still look nicer.

I disagree

(Attachment Link)

(Attachment Link)
Dis one Ritos

*cough* MX keycaps *cough*  ::)

MX Keycaps > Topre

Dis I agree with!

How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.


Offline derb2k2

  • Posts: 415
  • Location: Miami,Fl
  • Something of a Topre ****..
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:47:02 »
How did the lube change the feel/sound?

I was wondering about that. I myself have lubed three topre boards (HHKB,RF,660c) but the only noticeable change is improved silence (less clacking maybe). I haven't really felt any real change in the keystroke itself.

I think the source of the lube and the viscosity would have somethign to do with it. I guess using a more thick formula will alter the stroke.
HHKB | RF 45UB | Novatouch | Poker II Blue | QFR Browns | Rosewill RK-9000RE

Offline hashbaz

  • Grand Ancient One
  • * Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 5057
  • Location: SF Bae Area
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:47:58 »
How to ruin topre in two easy steps. Install mx sliders and add cherry caps.

Cherry with cherry and topre with topre.

Pretty sure there's something in the Torah about not mixing Topre and MX. Definitely not kosher.

Offline FrostyToast

  • Litshoard
  • * Exquisite Elder
  • Posts: 2368
  • Location: Canada
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:54:58 »
Topre has very delicate acoustics and tactility to it.
Change the case or even the caps and you can ruin that easily.

Digilog case plus MX caps is a direct trade-off between what makes topre good and aesthetics; though, in all fairness, some boards look even uglier after they get MX caps.
Quote from: elton5354
I don't need anymore keyboards

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:55:12 »
I disagree

(Attachment Link)


(Attachment Link)
Dis one Ritos
Too colourful..

Honestly, it's not so much the keyboards themselves. A lot of MX keyboards look really bad (that said, some look superb). I just think all keycaps look like crap compared to original Cherry ones. And then there's the customs...



« Last Edit: Fri, 12 February 2016, 13:56:53 by Photekq »
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline rowdy

  • HHKB Hapster
  • * Erudite Elder
  • Posts: 21175
  • Location: melbourne.vic.au
  • Missed another sale.
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 00:25:56 »
Disclaimer: typed on my HHKB.
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

Ị̸͚̯̲́ͤ̃͑̇̑ͯ̊̂͟ͅs̞͚̩͉̝̪̲͗͊ͪ̽̚̚ ̭̦͖͕̑́͌ͬͩ͟t̷̻͔̙̑͟h̹̠̼͋ͤ͋i̤̜̣̦̱̫͈͔̞ͭ͑ͥ̌̔s̬͔͎̍̈ͥͫ̐̾ͣ̔̇͘ͅ ̩̘̼͆̐̕e̞̰͓̲̺̎͐̏ͬ̓̅̾͠͝ͅv̶̰͕̱̞̥̍ͣ̄̕e͕͙͖̬̜͓͎̤̊ͭ͐͝ṇ̰͎̱̤̟̭ͫ͌̌͢͠ͅ ̳̥̦ͮ̐ͤ̎̊ͣ͡͡n̤̜̙̺̪̒͜e̶̻̦̿ͮ̂̀c̝̘̝͖̠̖͐ͨͪ̈̐͌ͩ̀e̷̥͇̋ͦs̢̡̤ͤͤͯ͜s͈̠̉̑͘a̱͕̗͖̳̥̺ͬͦͧ͆̌̑͡r̶̟̖̈͘ỷ̮̦̩͙͔ͫ̾ͬ̔ͬͮ̌?̵̘͇͔͙ͥͪ͞ͅ

Offline azhdar

  • Praise the AZERTY god
  • Posts: 2435
  • Location: France
  • 65% Enlightened
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 03:47:33 »
betrayer
Azerty Propagandiste

Offline dgneo

  • Supervillain
  • * Curator
  • Posts: 2182
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 10:45:39 »
The HHKB is the best keyboard in the world.

yes

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 11:59:48 »
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline pr0ximity

  • Posts: 2705
  • Location: Maine
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 13:08:10 »
k, send me your 3278.
| Flickr | KMAC 1.2 | Koala | GSKT-00-Z | GSKT-00-AEK | GON NerD60 | Jane V2 CE | Whale | J80S | Ibis | Pro2 | Pro1 | 356mini | 356CL DGE | G80-5000 HAMDE | IBM 1390120 | IBM F AT | IBM F122 | IBM 3101 | Zenith Z-150

Offline Photekq

  • wheat flour zone
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 4794
  • Location: North Wales, UK
  • sorry if i was ever an ******* to you
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #33 on: Wed, 19 July 2017, 14:15:07 »
https://kbdarchive.org/
github
discord: hi mum#5710

Offline ander

  • * Esteemed Elder
  • Posts: 1186
  • Location: Vancouver, BC
  • I type, therefore I am
Re: Keyboard realism
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 20 July 2017, 05:10:48 »
We are not chasing wildly after beauty with fear at our backs. – Natalie Goldberg