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Title: Meetings
Post by: jdcarpe on Wed, 16 July 2014, 15:04:39
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Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: digi on Wed, 16 July 2014, 15:05:21
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lol, it's true too.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 July 2014, 15:23:43
I was in a meeting earlier today!  I got to eat three cookies, one bag of chips, one coffee, and one soda.

YUM
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 July 2014, 17:15:19
We don't have donuts at our meetings any more :(
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 16 July 2014, 20:45:22
we weren't allowed to eat or be on our phones or anything (like get real work done) doing the meetings.

And the CEO would yell at you if you didn't take notes.

and a lot of time was still wasted.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 July 2014, 20:45:58
we weren't allowed to eat or be on our phones or anything (like get real work done) doing the meetings.

And the CEO would yell at you if you didn't take notes.

and a lot of time was still wasted.

Sounds like a lot of time was wasted with dumb rules.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 July 2014, 20:47:59
we weren't allowed to eat or be on our phones or anything (like get real work done) doing the meetings.

And the CEO would yell at you if you didn't take notes.

and a lot of time was still wasted.

Sounds like a lot of time was wasted with dumb rules.

That's what meetings are for, aren't they?  To waste time, while making a middle manager look important.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 July 2014, 20:53:54
we weren't allowed to eat or be on our phones or anything (like get real work done) doing the meetings.

And the CEO would yell at you if you didn't take notes.

and a lot of time was still wasted.

Sounds like a lot of time was wasted with dumb rules.

That's what meetings are for, aren't they?  To waste time, while making a middle manager look important.

Maybe in some places, sure.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: SpAmRaY on Wed, 16 July 2014, 21:16:34
I only make visual aids for the meetings but usually they cater food and there is always extra!
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 July 2014, 22:09:58
I'm on a conference call right now!

Except no-one else has dialled in, so I'm listening to the hold music :))
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: HoffmanMyster on Wed, 16 July 2014, 22:10:34
I'm on a conference call right now!

Except no-one else has dialled in, so I'm listening to the hold music :))

Gotta love that elevator music.  :D
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Wed, 16 July 2014, 22:11:46
I'm on a conference call right now!

Except no-one else has dialled in, so I'm listening to the hold music :))

Gotta love that elevator music.  :D

The loop is only about 30 seconds long :(

Nope, sorry, I just timed it, 1 minute 14 seconds.

Seems like no-one else is turning up, I'd better get on with some real work.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: iri on Thu, 17 July 2014, 05:59:41
yesterday we had a quarterly meeting, in 'murican office, broadcast online. i could see the video, but couldn't hear any sound, since it was over webex, and webex's sound doesn't work on my machine. well, there was the option to call 'murica and listen to all the 3.5 hours of the meeting on my phone. but no. i couldn't hear anybody. nobody could hear me. so,
i drank four cans of coke, ate two mars'es and a small local choco pie

The loop is only about 30 seconds long :(

Nope, sorry, I just timed it, 1 minute 14 seconds.
geekiest quote of today.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 19 July 2014, 08:50:49
I.  Hate.  Meetings.  They get nothing done.  Great for learning about the office gossip, though.

Only time I will schedule a meeting is as a last resort, if emails/phone/cube visits are not more efficient than just sitting everyone down in one room for a bit.

Meetings are wonderful for people that cannot make decisions and do not want to take responsibility.  Rather than getting work done on their own time, they need to have meetings in order to be motivated to actually get things done.

Meetings only work if everybody comes prepared, there is an agenda, people do not stray off topic, and a person keeps everyone on task.  Even then, they are near unbearable.

Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: RabRhee on Sat, 19 July 2014, 10:56:34
I never got invited to meetings. And then I finally got dragged to one that I had to be in, and spilt coffee right across the table and down the lap of the guy opposite, who was also taking the minutes that got soaked. And then I didn't get invited to one for about 8 months. When I was invited again, someone mentioned my last meeting and while laughing about that, I accidentally (honestly) did exactly the same again. And never got invited to meetings after that.

On the whole, a great result.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sat, 19 July 2014, 11:03:13
I never got invited to meetings. And then I finally got dragged to one that I had to be in, and spilt coffee right across the table and down the lap of the guy opposite, who was also taking the minutes that got soaked. And then I didn't get invited to one for about 8 months. When I was invited again, someone mentioned my last meeting and while laughing about that, I accidentally (honestly) did exactly the same again. And never got invited to meetings after that.

On the whole, a great result.


Congrats.  I am jealous.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: clickclack on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:08:40
I never got invited to meetings. And then I finally got dragged to one that I had to be in, and spilt coffee right across the table and down the lap of the guy opposite, who was also taking the minutes that got soaked. And then I didn't get invited to one for about 8 months. When I was invited again, someone mentioned my last meeting and while laughing about that, I accidentally (honestly) did exactly the same again. And never got invited to meetings after that.
On the whole, a great result.
LuLz, that's beautiful.

I'm stuck in meetings constantly, many of them (dare I say...) useful and productive. Most of the large meetings however are nothing short of a rage fest and a superbly intricate exercise in the art of futility.

Love the OPs post pic btw. =)
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: Belfong on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:31:57
I can bear face 2 face meetings but I hate conference calls. Concall have to be the single worst way to conduct meetings and most if the time they are not effective. People usually mute their phone and surf Geekhack!
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: dorkvader on Sat, 19 July 2014, 12:32:08
The weekly meeting with the CEO was pretty tedious, everyone was required to read the meeting minutes.

Other meetings with my department (computer retail) varied from "mostly useless" to "very productive" on the whole they were productive.
People usually mute their phone and surf Geekhack!
That sort of thing is grounds for immediate dismissal, like dozing off.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: katushkin on Sat, 19 July 2014, 14:09:36
If I ever hold meetings at work, they are going to be awesome.

Everyone is going to love my meetings.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: iri on Sat, 19 July 2014, 15:33:24
That sort of thing is grounds for immediate dismissal, like dozing off.

So glad I don't live in 'Murica.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: Malphas on Sat, 19 July 2014, 20:01:32
That sort of thing is grounds for immediate dismissal, like dozing off.

So glad I don't live in 'Murica.

For real. I hear about people getting fired in the US all the time, for things that elsewhere would be seen as trivial or not even noticed, and illegal to fire someone over.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Sat, 19 July 2014, 21:08:03
We had another online conference on Friday.

Me and two other guys from this end, one of our clients from WA, and a couple of their IT team from the US.

We connected to the meeting site 1 minute before it was due to start and got the message that the meeting host needed to approve our entry into the meeting.  And a 10 minute countdown timer.

The three of us discoursed upon many and varied topics whilst watching the countdown timer do its thing.

At 10 minutes past, it auto-disconnected.

We switched everything off, closed the apps, logged out of the conference app, turned the lights off, and then the phone rang.

It was the client wondering if we were going to join the meeting.

So we all went back in, turned everything on, started everything up again, and had what actually turned out to be a fairly productive meeting (albeit with long periods of silence after someone said something, and everyone was wondering whether they should say something next).
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Sun, 20 July 2014, 20:28:52
That sort of thing is grounds for immediate dismissal, like dozing off.

So glad I don't live in 'Murica.

For real. I hear about people getting fired in the US all the time, for things that elsewhere would be seen as trivial or not even noticed, and illegal to fire someone over.

In the US, you are supposed to care about your job, and if you are not completely committed, they might get rid of you.  In private industry, the 40 hour work week is dead.  I barely know a soul in private I hardy that works less than 45 hours per week.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: dorkvader on Wed, 23 July 2014, 15:56:43
I read somewhere that lunches are required at some jobs!

I was lucky to get one at all, and if I did, I always had to take it at my desk.

It was very odd for me to see people working in other places, like California. They had snacks at work, you got a lunch, I even saw people who were bored and had nothing to do! It was truly eye-opening.

I was lucky to get the job I had, so I had to work hard to say there.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: JPG on Wed, 23 July 2014, 16:05:20
I work 37,5 hours a week. I consider myself productive. We don't do a lot of meetings and when we do most are useful (I insist on most and not all). Worst are clients calls. The client is never there on time, but you still need to be there on time. And after 15 minutes lost, you decide to go back to work until the client calls you and 2 minutes after that, the client calls and you need to go back to the phone call...


But all in all, I love my job. I also believe that for most people, working max 40 hours a week is probably the most productive way of doing things if the job involve a lot of mental efforts. After 40 hours a week, you do more crap than actual work anyway if it's on a regular basis.


Oh, and I live 10 minutes from my job. That's super nice too. And we play poker during lunch time everyday!
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Mon, 28 July 2014, 20:59:54
I work 37,5 hours a week. I consider myself productive. We don't do a lot of meetings and when we do most are useful (I insist on most and not all). Worst are clients calls. The client is never there on time, but you still need to be there on time. And after 15 minutes lost, you decide to go back to work until the client calls you and 2 minutes after that, the client calls and you need to go back to the phone call...


But all in all, I love my job. I also believe that for most people, working max 40 hours a week is probably the most productive way of doing things if the job involve a lot of mental efforts. After 40 hours a week, you do more crap than actual work anyway if it's on a regular basis.


Oh, and I live 10 minutes from my job. That's super nice too. And we play poker during lunch time everyday!


In the USA, only the lucky get to work 40 hour weeks.  Except at my workplace, I barely know anybody that only works 40 hours/week.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: The_Beast on Mon, 28 July 2014, 21:08:03
I was in a meeting earlier today!  I got to eat three cookies, one bag of chips, one coffee, and one soda.

YUM

Fatty


I have one meeting a week to talk with consultants (they're on a beach or golfing getting paid to listen) for about 45 minutes where we
talk about progress with projects and discuss solutions to problems. It's really cool to listen to some of the smartest people I know talk about stuff I barely have a grasp on. (ultra high vacuum systems, 300+ Kv power supplies, IED detection, radiography using neutron generators...)


At my other job, it was maybe once a month.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: Malphas on Tue, 29 July 2014, 13:09:24
That sort of thing is grounds for immediate dismissal, like dozing off.

So glad I don't live in 'Murica.

For real. I hear about people getting fired in the US all the time, for things that elsewhere would be seen as trivial or not even noticed, and illegal to fire someone over.

In the US, you are supposed to care about your job, and if you are not completely committed, they might get rid of you.  In private industry, the 40 hour work week is dead.  I barely know a soul in private I hardy that works less than 45 hours per week.

What a massive joke. I think I would laugh in my bosses (although I'm not even sure I have a boss actually) face if I was told I was supposed to care about my job besides money.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: exitfire401 on Tue, 29 July 2014, 13:11:23
I work 37,5 hours a week. I consider myself productive. We don't do a lot of meetings and when we do most are useful (I insist on most and not all). Worst are clients calls. The client is never there on time, but you still need to be there on time. And after 15 minutes lost, you decide to go back to work until the client calls you and 2 minutes after that, the client calls and you need to go back to the phone call...


But all in all, I love my job. I also believe that for most people, working max 40 hours a week is probably the most productive way of doing things if the job involve a lot of mental efforts. After 40 hours a week, you do more crap than actual work anyway if it's on a regular basis.


Oh, and I live 10 minutes from my job. That's super nice too. And we play poker during lunch time everyday!


In the USA, only the lucky get to work 40 hour weeks.  Except at my workplace, I barely know anybody that only works 40 hours/week.

Hell, I wish I could find a job in my town that's 40 hours a week...since the new healthcare regulations came about, nobody wants to hire for more than 30 hours a week because past that you have to pay for their healthcare (subsidized or not, greed is a ***** and nobody wants to pay for it)
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: vivalarevolución on Tue, 29 July 2014, 19:32:47
I work 37,5 hours a week. I consider myself productive. We don't do a lot of meetings and when we do most are useful (I insist on most and not all). Worst are clients calls. The client is never there on time, but you still need to be there on time. And after 15 minutes lost, you decide to go back to work until the client calls you and 2 minutes after that, the client calls and you need to go back to the phone call...


But all in all, I love my job. I also believe that for most people, working max 40 hours a week is probably the most productive way of doing things if the job involve a lot of mental efforts. After 40 hours a week, you do more crap than actual work anyway if it's on a regular basis.


Oh, and I live 10 minutes from my job. That's super nice too. And we play poker during lunch time everyday!


In the USA, only the lucky get to work 40 hour weeks.  Except at my workplace, I barely know anybody that only works 40 hours/week.

Hell, I wish I could find a job in my town that's 40 hours a week...since the new healthcare regulations came about, nobody wants to hire for more than 30 hours a week because past that you have to pay for their healthcare (subsidized or not, greed is a ***** and nobody wants to pay for it)


Oh yea, then there is that little trend.  Full-time jobs with benefits are not growing too much in the States.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 15 August 2014, 20:49:09
Headed into a meeting on Friday, essential supplies ready!

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I did check first to make sure I would not annoy anyone with my crunching.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: dorkvader on Fri, 15 August 2014, 22:59:01
I did check first to make sure I would not annoy anyone with my crunching.

I can imagine you. Saunter into the room. Slam supplies down onto table (next to keyboard..?) Ask if anyone will be bothered by your crunching, make eye contact and stare down all who might say "no".

They are probably thinking: 'he has that loud KB that can beat up a zombie, I'm not messing with him!'
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: rowdy on Fri, 15 August 2014, 23:13:07
I did check first to make sure I would not annoy anyone with my crunching.

I can imagine you. Saunter into the room. Slam supplies down onto table (next to keyboard..?) Ask if anyone will be bothered by your crunching, make eye contact and stare down all who might say "no".

They are probably thinking: 'he has that loud KB that can beat up a zombie, I'm not messing with him!'

:))

But not quite.  It was a training course and I was sitting near the door nowhere near a keyboard.
Title: Re: Meetings
Post by: Smasher816 on Sun, 17 August 2014, 13:23:42
My boss hates meetings with his clients, so as one of the few programmers there I don't have to deal with them :)