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Title: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(New Sound Test!)
Post by: ookies on Thu, 23 June 2022, 06:59:28
(https://i.imgur.com/AO3nZJz.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/WWbGLv9.jpg)
Etcetera65

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Imgur Link (https://imgur.com/a/NnjuLz3)

Background

(https://i.imgur.com/vbraD8l.jpg)

Hi yall, _ookies here
For quite some time now, I've been looking for a 65% board. However, I can't seem to find one with all the features I want in a board.

So I decided to make my own keyboard, taking inspiration from previous designs and combining it into one neat package.


Inspiration
This board is the combination of several features that I liked from other boards. The Plateless/PCB mount of the 7V(Gok), the leaf spring design from nemui(Bachoo), the accent/pen bar from j-02(Jae), Etc.


Specs:
(https://i.imgur.com/iReXbk1.png)(https://i.imgur.com/D7rVROf.png)


Colour option:


PCB and Layout:
(https://i.imgur.com/bSDtfPG.png)



Renders
(https://i.imgur.com/5ipA1xu.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/lYzGFG0.jpg)



First Prototype Photos

(https://i.imgur.com/q6h6Baf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/LEgtrtR.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/FQnQUGR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/a9QGkbw.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/igxPmdm.jpg)
Extended Album (https://imgur.com/a/oHObMtm)


Second Prototype Photos

(https://i.imgur.com/cKYRzwd.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/uaEDB6J.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/nb05KkY.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/G2gbykP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZRDoLT4.jpg)(https://i.imgur.com/JKTrPlC.jpg)



Second Prototype Sound Test

Plate: Plateless
Switches: Stock Gateron Yellow
Stabilizers: Durock V2 Screw-in Stabilisers with Krytox XHT-BDZ
Keycaps:  Epbt origami
*stock gateron yellow are used for a replicable test*


More
First Prototype Sound Test

Plate: Plateless
Switches: Stock Gateron Yellow
Stabilizers: Durock V2 Screw-in Stabilisers with Krytox XHT-BDZ
Keycaps: GMK Modern Dolch 2
*stock gateron yellow are used for a replicable test*




IC Form: https://forms.gle/bdeRLUVJ7Jm895US9 (https://forms.gle/bdeRLUVJ7Jm895US9)
Discord: https://discord.gg/RDqT4Gcxjp (https://discord.gg/RDqT4Gcxjp)
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_ookiesdesign/ (https://www.instagram.com/_ookiesdesign/)




Todo:

- Proto build and Sound test
- More renders
- Design a hotswap pcb



Updates:

- 25/6/2022 added some more renders
- 25/6/2022 discord server added
- 26/6/2022 added fr4 plate and hotswap pcb as options
- 28/6/2022 added sound test for first prototype
- 12/11/2022 second round of proto ordered
- 21/12/2022 second proto of PCB arrived
- 11/03/2023 second batch of proto Cases arrived



Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DirtyGingy on Thu, 23 June 2022, 07:00:57
mode called, they want their design language back

jk
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Thu, 23 June 2022, 07:01:20
Hi, this is my first IC page, so I'm sorry if there are any mistakes.
I'll update it little by little.

updates:
added discord server
added several renders
from the feedback received, i've decided to add an fr4 plate for people to choose if they want plateless or not and a hotswap pcb as options

<23/8/2022>
finished designing the hotswap PCB, will order a proto of it soon

<12/11/2022>
finished designing everything, protos have been ordered

<21/12/2022>
Both solder and hotswap PCB have been assembled
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DaaDaa on Thu, 23 June 2022, 07:26:17
gorgrous board. will follow this IC.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DirtyGingy on Thu, 23 June 2022, 10:16:51
If you do add a hotswap pcb, I will definitely have more interest, but this is honestly an interesting board. I'll keep an eye on the project for sure
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: croatoanlp on Thu, 23 June 2022, 10:25:09
Would be interested in seeing the board from a left angle, to better see the accent piece
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DaaDaa on Thu, 23 June 2022, 10:35:20
If you do add a hotswap pcb, I will definitely have more interest, but this is honestly an interesting board. I'll keep an eye on the project for sure

It’s platelets so hotswap won’t happen
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DirtyGingy on Thu, 23 June 2022, 12:06:40
If you do add a hotswap pcb, I will definitely have more interest, but this is honestly an interesting board. I'll keep an eye on the project for sure

It’s platelets so hotswap won’t happen

While I don't fully believe it myself, the maker alexa is supposed to do plateless hotswap well https://www.makerkeyboards.com/products/alexa

I'll find out when mine gets here. Someday.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: Akele on Thu, 23 June 2022, 13:10:11
Looks good. Do you plan to support ISO on the board?
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: DaaDaa on Thu, 23 June 2022, 18:50:42
If you do add a hotswap pcb, I will definitely have more interest, but this is honestly an interesting board. I'll keep an eye on the project for sure

It’s platelets so hotswap won’t happen

While I don't fully believe it myself, the maker alexa is supposed to do plateless hotswap well https://www.makerkeyboards.com/products/alexa

I'll find out when mine gets here. Someday.

good to know. i tried platless with every millmax socket available and it doesnt even work for a minute, but the alexa page says that the new hotswap sockets have been tried for months.... good news but ill believe it when i see it.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Thu, 23 June 2022, 18:51:40
Looks good. Do you plan to support ISO on the board?
Yup. the PCB supports both ansi and iso
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Thu, 23 June 2022, 18:53:12
Would be interested in seeing the board from a left angle, to better see the accent piece
Thats a good idea. ill make a few renders from all sides and update the post
thanks for the suggestion
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Thu, 23 June 2022, 18:57:42
If you do add a hotswap pcb, I will definitely have more interest, but this is honestly an interesting board. I'll keep an eye on the project for sure

It’s platelets so hotswap won’t happen

While I don't fully believe it myself, the maker alexa is supposed to do plateless hotswap well https://www.makerkeyboards.com/products/alexa

I'll find out when mine gets here. Someday.

yea hotswap was not included due to it being plateless. tho i might add hotswap as an option if people dont mind using a plate. even the Alexa has a solder PCB for 'extra plateless stability'
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: SDKCAMPING on Thu, 23 June 2022, 22:34:30
have you tested the pcb? with such a flexible material, plateless,and long arms i imagine it will feel way too soft and mushy with too much movement.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ankit on Fri, 24 June 2022, 00:17:42
Can we see a photo of the left side profile? Looks interesting but there are no photos or renders.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Fri, 24 June 2022, 03:54:15
Can we see a photo of the left side profile? Looks interesting but there are no photos or renders.

Yup ive just added some renders of the left side profile. its in the 'Renders' section
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: ookies on Fri, 24 June 2022, 03:57:43
have you tested the pcb? with such a flexible material, plateless,and long arms i imagine it will feel way too soft and mushy with too much movement.

Yup, i have build the prototype with gateron yellows and plateless(typing this message with the prototype). i will add a typing test video soon, haven't gotten the time to record a video haha. so far i don't think it is too mushy in normal typing. sure it flexes alot when pressed hard but on normal usage it feels soft instead of mushy.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring
Post by: GraffitiDecos on Fri, 24 June 2022, 20:55:49
Very interesting! I will be keeping my eye on this one GL!

Sent from my SM-S901W using Tapatalk

Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: ookies on Tue, 28 June 2022, 07:57:38
Sound test of the first prototype is here!!!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: LumiP on Thu, 30 June 2022, 12:48:24
Gorgeous board. I love the design!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: Homiezoned on Sun, 17 July 2022, 23:55:45
That accent bar is nice
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: Nongo on Tue, 19 July 2022, 23:39:10
super excited for this it looks so cool
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: superjackie on Wed, 20 July 2022, 01:22:42
Nice looking board! any internal or external weight option? how much does this board weigh? Thanks!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: lush_bunny on Wed, 20 July 2022, 12:23:12
You had me at

Quote
Mounting: pcb-leaf-spring-top mount

I may not have enough funds to join this GB, but I wholeheartedly hope this succeeds. GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: ookies on Mon, 01 August 2022, 23:38:33
Nice looking board! any internal or external weight option? how much does this board weigh? Thanks!

Fully built, the proto weights 1.755Kg. Tho I'm currently testing on adding an internal weight to improve acoustics
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: JustMilica on Thu, 04 August 2022, 09:01:37
Looks really good. Would love it if there was an option for a silver-colored (PVD stainless steel or alu, for instance) accent bar rather than just the copper one.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: ookies on Thu, 04 August 2022, 19:38:21
Looks really good. Would love it if there was an option for a silver-colored (PVD stainless steel or alu, for instance) accent bar rather than just the copper one.

currently thinking of adding other material and finish as extras if people want it
tho its not finalised yet
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: Jho on Thu, 04 August 2022, 22:59:28
Love that sound test. Am interested if price is decent.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: ookies on Sat, 12 November 2022, 04:26:01
Hey guys
Sorry for taking so long but I'm finally finished with designing everything
I've also ordered several prototypes, this includes the board, PCB, packaging etc.
I'm planning on sending a few to reviewers and if all things goes well we could look into planning the GB
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: arr1 on Sat, 12 November 2022, 15:33:02
looks amazing
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: Ashen_21 on Wed, 16 November 2022, 00:03:17
Gorgeous board, looking forward to seeing it develop and in the hands of creators as well! GLWIC!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (Sound Test Live!)
Post by: ookies on Wed, 21 December 2022, 05:47:16
Gorgeous board, looking forward to seeing it develop and in the hands of creators as well! GLWIC!

Thanks alot!!! Really hoping that the protos will come out well. so far the PCB protos are looking really good
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (More photos added)
Post by: Toptiginn on Mon, 16 January 2023, 13:54:40
The white one with brass looks really good :thumb:
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (More photos added)
Post by: ookies on Wed, 18 January 2023, 05:40:16
The white one with brass looks really good :thumb:
Thanks a lot!
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (More photos added)
Post by: saab on Wed, 18 January 2023, 06:30:07
Really like how the accent bar flows with the side profile.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring (More photos added)
Post by: ookies on Sat, 11 March 2023, 18:10:26
Really like how the accent bar flows with the side profile.
thanks!! glad you like it.
(https://i.imgur.com/KNX022P.jpg)
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(Second Proto Here!)
Post by: Burt888 on Sat, 11 March 2023, 20:32:38
I assume Iso will be only on the Solder PCB or will habe the Hotswap ISO aswell?
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(Second Proto Here!)
Post by: ookies on Sat, 11 March 2023, 21:18:32
I assume Iso will be only on the Solder PCB or will habe the Hotswap ISO aswell?
yea, sadly iso is only for the solder PCB
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(Second Proto Here!)
Post by: Frothy_Coffe_e on Sun, 12 March 2023, 06:34:13
This looks so good!!! Nice 😊

Depending on price I’m definitely interested.
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(Second Proto Here!)
Post by: ookies on Sun, 12 March 2023, 17:49:23
This looks so good!!! Nice 😊

Depending on price I’m definitely interested.

Ayee thanks. price is not finalized yet but I expect it to be around 300-350
Title: Re: [IC] Etcetera - 65% Plateless PCB-top-mount with leaf-spring(Second Proto Here!)
Post by: OhNyne on Mon, 10 April 2023, 05:06:38
This is my type of board, Iso, hotswap. Just not sure how plateless would work on a hotswap pcb, but it would definetley shake up the market.