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Title: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sat, 09 July 2022, 07:28:04

XOX70

GB Post is now live https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118194 (https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118194)

Introduction

Hello Geekhack friends, after a year in development please allow me to introduce XOX70 an FRL TKL or in my own words the better-looking 70%

XOX or Hugs and Kisses is a personal project I started designing back in May 2021, during the strictest lockdown in Melbourne Australia where I rarely get the chance to meet my friends and family and the easiest way to communicate is via typing. After using many keyboards and running a few proxy group buys I’ve set out to design a board that meets my own expectations.

IC Form - Click HERE (https://forms.gle/BCjH1Z5tpQ7LaLUJ8)
Join Discord - Click HERE (https://discord.gg/MuSr7fZx3N)

Spec Summary

8-degree typing angle with 2 internal brass weights (E-Clear coat treated)
Screwless exterior design (adjusted for switch & plate clearance and ease of assembly)
Gasket Leaf Spring (full plate & half-plate, multiple materials)[/*]
Solder and Hot-Swap PCB with flex cut (VIA ready) 1.6mm thick
Carry case included
Pricing ~ 380 USD for a standard kit

(https://i.imgur.com/XQnVK8z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/g5iHuJi.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WsgGZR8.jpg)

Standard Kit Planned Contents

Top & Bottom case with Badge, LED diffuser & weights pre-installed
Solder PCB + Daughter board + JST cable
Full Aluminium Plate
JST cable cover
Gasket poron foams (with extra)
Rubber Feet
Assembly Screws + Torx driver
Badge light-blocking foam
3u stabilizer wire x 2
Anti Static sheet, Poron case & plate foam
Carry Case

Extras

Full & Half plates in FR4, PC, Aluminium
Solder & Hot-swap PCB with Daughterboard and cable
3u stabilizer wire pack (2 wires per pack)

Vendor
USA - Mechs & Co. (https://mechsandco.com/)
Canada - Shockport Keyboards (https://shockport.com/)
SEA - ilumkb (https://ilumkb.com/)
Europe - KeyGem (https://keygem.store/en-au)
UK - Proto[Typist] (https://prototypist.net/)
Vietnam - Uniqmeck (https://uniqmeck.store/)
South Korea - Swagkeys (https://swagkeys.com/)
OCE - Thocc Supply (https://thocc.supply/)

Content Creator - Schedule

	Colour	Link	Date & Time
SwitchDoctor	Lilac WK	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDYfLzedoeM&t=20s	10th July @ 11 AM AEST
MrB0dyMassage	Black WK	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdq6Cq7Nf7U	15th July @ 7 PM AEDT
warmthoughts	Moss WKL	https://www.twitch.tv/warmthoughts	TBC
NEARLUCID	Plum WKL	https://www.youtube.com/c/nearLucid	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJENNgbqELc&t=1s
LightningKeyboard	Black WKL	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tV46zET-io	Aug 4th @ 8PM EST
Alexotos	E-White WKL	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHYyeLJH-1I	July 31st @ 1PM EDT
DBOKEY	Lilac WKL	https://www.youtube.com/c/%EB%93%9C%EB%B3%B4%ED%82%A4DBOKEY	In Progress
:3ildcat	Silver WK	https://www.youtube.com/c/3ildcat	In Progress

IC case colour - will trim down to 4 after IC results

From top left to bottom right

Black & Silver
Silver & Blue
Moss & Black
Plum & Black
Lilac & Silver
E-White & E-Yellow
Dirty Pink & Black

(https://i.imgur.com/8sIRMna.jpg)

PCB Layout

Daughterboard - Aio3 Unified Daughterboard footprint with JST connector

The main PCB Solder version supports multi layouts, Hot-Swap is fixed ANSI with 7u spacebar

(https://i.imgur.com/eDNDLqt.jpg)

Exploded

(https://i.imgur.com/4pX8CjS.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Lxa8zjj.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/wynVw0N.jpg)

Render Gallery - Full Render Album click HERE (https://imgur.com/a/ba4s2Ie)

(https://i.imgur.com/ybQTSIt.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/5T3QcH4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3zD0ByN.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/WvbskwW.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lMKOj4z.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/bzgLWWc.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZKMyM3L.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JUNAGAX.jpg)

Final Prototype Photo - Full Album click HERE (https://imgur.com/a/X7oFBhn)

(https://i.imgur.com/Tq7ZnzO.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/QVFslvU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VHxbhP0.jpg)

XOX v1 & v2 Renders by YorkChan - Full Render Album click HERE (https://imgur.com/a/hNp8TQ0)

(https://i.imgur.com/u3Q7lCX.jpg)

XOX previous Prototypes - Full Album Click HERE (https://imgur.com/a/yy1FtBq)

(https://i.imgur.com/r3KTpE8.jpg)

Typing test

In COVID isolation and soz for some stab ticks, this is my daily test driver and I've yet to redo all the stabs

SwitchDoctor's FR4 half plate typing test

Banner

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(https://i.imgur.com/ffu8hrP.jpg)

Special Thanks

My Family and Friends who aren't in the keeb world but are still hyped about what I'm doing
Eureka Foundry - For providing valuable feedback and shipped out these amazing final prototypes
JPermz - Co-Founder of Peac Design, legendary mate, excited about this project since day 1. You can't get PLX anymore but can get some sick merch @ https://peac.design/
Jess - Thank you for the kick-in-the-butt confidence boost, not just once
Content creators - Thank you for taking your time to preview and sharing your experience with everyone

XOX70 FAQ

Q: WKL, ISO Support, Half plate please?
A: Plz just scroll up, all of them are listed in the description, specs, renders and IRL photos

Q: Do I have to use included foam?
A: No. Including foam cause…we all have personal PREFERENCE and making logistic easier for the vendors

Q: Could you please allow plate choice and PCB choice for the standard kit?
A: PCB yes, plate no. This is to reduce possible shipping and packing errors and make logistics slightly simpler. For the number pros, there are 144 different combinations if we allow mix match all the available options, not including any extras

Q: Will the plate and PCB design file be released to the public?
A: Plate file yes, PCB design file no. I do plan to have a rolling release for in-stock PCBs depending on the demand, regional vendors will have access to those if they want to stock them on a regular basis

Q: Can I have super slick/cute none typing-related features such as screen, knob, touchpad, fingerprint scanner, incense holder etc etc?
A: Maybe in the future, right now XOX70 is a good keyboard and needs to do keyboard things

Q: Why the badge?
A: Design to look like a computer screen, it shows the abundant relationship between input and display device, it also adds a small bit of flare so it doesn’t look like your office 3000

Q: HHKB layout perhaps?
A: BIG maybe, could be interesting but not for this run. If you are a PCB designer and have experience in designing PCB for electrostatic capacitive switches, please, get in touch :-*

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sat, 09 July 2022, 07:28:54

Reserved

The blue bottom case colour in the prototype is lighter than the renders, will do another anode sample before the full production run
Based on IC result, 6 out of 7 colours will be offered in GB, sorry Pink lovers

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Nonnegaard on Sat, 09 July 2022, 07:39:25

Reserved

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sat, 09 July 2022, 08:06:36

Quote from: Nonnegaard on Sat, 09 July 2022, 07:39:25

Reserved

Missed by that much

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Mecxs on Sat, 09 July 2022, 09:01:50

That's a pretty impressive commitment to the prototyping.

Definitely keen to pick one of these up if you can stick close to that target price.

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: ee on Sat, 09 July 2022, 09:42:03

reserved

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: linell on Sat, 09 July 2022, 11:59:51

I bet the db cover makes it thock harder
nice design :thumb:

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sat, 09 July 2022, 21:11:35

Quote from: linell on Sat, 09 July 2022, 11:59:51

I bet the db cover makes it thock harder
nice design :thumb:

Thank you, the design felt complete with that cover added in

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38

"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:42:11

Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38

"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Yes they will be separate vendors

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Keeblet_257 on Sun, 10 July 2022, 08:48:55

Quote from: well_cooper on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:42:11

Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38
"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Yes they will be separate vendors

good news.

I have a question, what material is the case made of? Might be me but I cant see the material of both top and bottom beeing named. If I had to make a guess Id say that both top and bottom are 6061 aluminium? Since there is a standard kit it would mean that there will be a more premium option right?
just a few question that came up when I read the IC.

oh and thats a lot of protos you guys made :eek:

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Mecxs on Sun, 10 July 2022, 20:17:59

Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Sun, 10 July 2022, 08:48:55

I have a question, what material is the case made of?

6063 according to Discord. Might have changed for most recent round of protos though, not sure?

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Rory on Mon, 11 July 2022, 05:45:21

this is it - absolutely love the silver but you can put me down for plum wkl

pls and thanks

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Mon, 11 July 2022, 06:34:00

Quote from: Mecxs on Sun, 10 July 2022, 20:17:59

Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Sun, 10 July 2022, 08:48:55
I have a question, what material is the case made of?

6063 according to Discord. Might have changed for most recent round of protos though, not sure?

Very much the same, I did change supplier after the second prototype was not satisfactory

Quote from: Keeblet_257 on Sun, 10 July 2022, 08:48:55

Quote from: well_cooper on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:42:11
Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38
"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Yes they will be separate vendors
good news.

I have a question, what material is the case made of? Might be me but I cant see the material of both top and bottom being named. If I had to make a guess Id say that both top and bottom are 6061 aluminium? Since there is a standard kit it would mean that there will be a more premium option right?
just a few question that came up when I read the IC.

oh and thats a lot of protos you guys made :eek:

6063 series aluminium, there was a tease I shared with a small group of Discord members regarding a possible FE edition however it is been put on hold (not cancelled) due to machining difficulty and very very low yield

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: saab on Mon, 11 July 2022, 06:35:06

Great To see, more FRLs. The prototypes are looking great! GLWIC

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: TQuest on Fri, 15 July 2022, 15:25:37

I completed your IC form, but marked "Forest" for color selection because I thought it was Moss. I now realize my error. I would have marked "Black" instead.

I'm rather boring, so I hope you offer either Black or E-White as one of your 4 colors in the GB.

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: turangaleela on Fri, 15 July 2022, 19:40:31

Filled out the IC form! The finish on the e-white looks incredible, thanks for all the prototype photos. In another life would have loved to see a soya/beige one...

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 17 July 2022, 03:14:16

Quote from: turangaleela on Fri, 15 July 2022, 19:40:31

Filled out the IC form! The finish on the e-white looks incredible, thanks for all the prototype photos. In another life would have loved to see a soya/beige one...

Noted, it's on my plan :thumb:

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 17 July 2022, 03:15:56

Quote from: Rory on Mon, 11 July 2022, 05:45:21

this is it - absolutely love the silver but you can put me down for plum wkl

pls and thanks

No and you are welcome (silver is lit)

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 17 July 2022, 06:02:49

Typing test added, I'm in COVID isolation mean there some extra free time on hand to do a short video

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: LumiP on Sun, 17 July 2022, 16:39:40

I have a weakness for FRL TKL 70s, and I love the colors that you're offering! GLWIC, though I don't think you'll need much!

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 17 July 2022, 19:02:53

Quote from: LumiP on Sun, 17 July 2022, 16:39:40

I have a weakness for FRL TKL 70s, and I love the colors that you're offering! GLWIC, though I don't think you'll need much!

UwU thank you hopefully I have tickled your weak spot

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Homiezoned on Sun, 17 July 2022, 22:45:32

The colors :nut:

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Ra66it_AU on Mon, 18 July 2022, 19:01:42

Looks really great, GLWIC!

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: zuiKatsu on Thu, 21 July 2022, 03:31:31

Looking good man! great colours on the protos and i really like the thought put into the internals, outside is classy too

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Wed, 27 July 2022, 05:52:41

Quote from: Ra69it on Mon, 18 July 2022, 19:01:42

Looks really great, GLWIC!

Quote from: Homiezoned on Sun, 17 July 2022, 22:45:32

The colors :nut:

Quote from: zuiKatsu on Thu, 21 July 2022, 03:31:31

Looking good man! great colours on the protos and i really like the thought put into the internals, outside is classy too

Thank you very much, fill out the short IC and vote for your favourite colours!

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Wed, 27 July 2022, 05:53:38

alexotos stream time added :-* scroll up and save the date
warmthoughts will be streaming Moss WKL build, time and date will be updated once confirmed

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: mr_foggy on Fri, 29 July 2022, 11:08:34

in a time of crazy inflated prices this is really surprising. nice design, nice colors, nice price. will most likely consider it.

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Wed, 03 August 2022, 22:39:47

Quote from: mr_foggy on Fri, 29 July 2022, 11:08:34

in a time of crazy inflated prices this is really surprising. nice design, nice colors, nice price. will most likely consider it.

Thank you, Thank you and Thank you Ɛ>

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Wed, 03 August 2022, 22:42:30

LightningKeyboard will stream Black WKL build on Aug 4th @ 8PM EST

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 07 August 2022, 08:59:38

Added FAQ at the end of IC post (based on current IC results)

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: ylothar on Sun, 07 August 2022, 13:14:42

Quote from: well_cooper on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:42:11

Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38
"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Yes they will be separate vendors

I'm sorry but I still see Proto[Typist] as the only vendor for UK and Europe.

As Depeche Mode would say: "It's No Good".

(https://c.tenor.com/NnorOVpXqM8AAAAC/martin-gore-dave-gahan.gif)

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: pixelpusher on Sun, 07 August 2022, 15:47:52

Excellent color choices. Classy style. I like it. :thumb:

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 07 August 2022, 18:27:24

Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 07 August 2022, 13:14:42

Quote from: well_cooper on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:42:11
Quote from: ylothar on Sun, 10 July 2022, 04:24:38
"UK & Europe - TBD"

If you haven't rated it yet, please consider using a specific vendor for EU and a different one for UK.

Great design!!!

Yes they will be separate vendors

I'm sorry but I still see Proto[Typist] as the only vendor for UK and Europe.

As Depeche Mode would say: "It's No Good".

Show Image
(https://c.tenor.com/NnorOVpXqM8AAAAC/martin-gore-dave-gahan.gif)

I've reached out to serval EU vendors and waiting on reply = it's is not final yet

Title: Re: XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: ylothar on Mon, 08 August 2022, 06:59:37

Quote from: well_cooper on Sun, 07 August 2022, 18:27:24

I've reached out to serval EU vendors and waiting on reply = it's is not final yet

Thanks for the update :)

If it has not been taken into consideration yet, I would like to suggest KEYGEM: I have no business relationship with them but they have always been attentive and kind.

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Psyrkle on Thu, 11 August 2022, 00:16:31

if you made a version with the arrows on the left side I will literally give you all of my money

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Mon, 15 August 2022, 01:02:39

Very proud to have SwagKeys as KR vendor and KeyGem as EU vendor <3

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Mon, 15 August 2022, 01:03:45

Quote from: Psyrkle on Thu, 11 August 2022, 00:16:31

if you made a version with the arrows on the left side I will literally give you all of my money

Haven't thought about southpaw variant, if there is enough interest I can look into it in R2

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Nonnegaard on Mon, 15 August 2022, 01:12:17

kc lookin ahh plate

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: ylothar on Mon, 15 August 2022, 02:21:21

Quote from: well_cooper on Mon, 15 August 2022, 01:02:39

Very proud to have SwagKeys as KR vendor and KeyGem as EU vendor <3

(https://c.tenor.com/acU28-Gj1W0AAAAM/jack-nicholson-jack.gif)

Great!!! Thank you :thumb:

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: Bozs on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:09:56

is there still a discord for this board? the link seems to be broken here and on reddit.

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: gunth on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:35:41

Quote from: Bozs on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:09:56

is there still a discord for this board? the link seems to be broken here and on reddit.

https://discord.gg/KPac9uBa

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Sun, 21 August 2022, 02:29:17

Quote from: gunth on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:35:41

Quote from: Bozs on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:09:56
is there still a discord for this board? the link seems to be broken here and on reddit.
https://discord.gg/KPac9uBa

Thank you <3

Quote from: Bozs on Sat, 20 August 2022, 13:09:56

is there still a discord for this board? the link seems to be broken here and on reddit.

Broken link fixed

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Fri, 26 August 2022, 08:34:04

GB Post waiting for approval

Title: Re: [IC] XOX70 FRL TKL - Gasket mounted,longer, better looking 70%
Post by: well_cooper on Fri, 26 August 2022, 18:25:23

Link to GB Post
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=118194