Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 30 October 2018, 08:14:48
IMPORTANT: Please read this thread regarding the Aegis PCB Support. Thank you!
Hello Geekhack!
We are a small group of keyboard enthusiasts from the Australian community who are collaborating together as aeboards to design and manufacture our dream keyboard. With this keyboard, we wanted to bring together a popular layout, in this case it was the 1800, and give it a modern twist to create a tool befitting of the modern software and applications one might find in a workplace.
After months of design, feedback and iteration, we present to you our board.
The
AEGIS
After months of design, feedback and iteration, we present to you our board.
The
AEGIS
(https://imgur.com/5HebHa1.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/PfMq3k8.jpg)
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(https://imgur.com/PfMq3k8.jpg)
(https://imgur.com/j7SIujM.jpg)
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Features & Specifications
- Grade 6063 anodised aluminum
- Bead blasted CNC’d 1.5mm brass plate
- Sandwich mount design
- 6.50 Degrees typing incline
- PCB is fully programmable with the QMK firmware
- PCB is of 1.6mm thickness with support for PCB mount stabilisers
- USB Type C connector
- No switch top opening for a tighter fit and snapping
- 19mm Height at the front
- Case dimensions: 396.50mm x 150.85mm x 35.20mm
- ~3300 grams built
Layout Support
(https://imgur.com/RINWa1K.jpg)
- Bottom row: 1.25u - 1.25u - 6.25u - 1.5u - 1.25u - 1.5u and 1u - 1u - 7u - 1.5u - 1u - 1.5u
- Number pad section supports all 1u keys, two vertical 2u keys on the left, one vertical 2u key on the right, and a 2u key on the bottom row
- Split backspace
- Split right shift
- Regular and stepped caps lock
Colour Choices
- Silver
- Grey
- Black
- Navy
Pricing
- Complete Kit (Includes 1x Case Top, 1x Case Base, 1x Plate, 1x PCB) - $380 USD
- Extra PCB and Plate - $90 USD
- Extra PCB - $50 USD
- Extra Plate - $50 USD
Shipping
All orders will be shipping from Australia. Shipping cost will depend on your location.
Each set weighs approximately 4.00 kg with packaging.
Shipping fee will be invoiced only after the keyboards are ready.
These are estimated shipping prices:
AU: ~$35 USD
ROW: ~$85 USD
Timeline for orders and payment
The group buy will end as soon as the MOQ of 50 is met or within 2 weeks of the purchase form being released.
Payment is due as soon as possible after invoices are issued.
Lead Time
Estimated as 4 - 6 months
Purchase Form
This is a FCFS groupbuy.
Stay tuned for updates for when the purchase form will come up.
Acknowledgements
A special thanks to the Australian discord who have provided feedback and criticisms on preliminary designs and layouts.
A thank you to taekeyboards for recording a sound test, and video, with professional equipment.
Sound Test
SA Profile
Cherry Profile
Website
www.aeboards.com (http://www.aeboards.com)
www.aeboards.com (http://www.aeboards.com)
Post by: Signature on Tue, 30 October 2018, 17:09:45
Post by: stoic-lemon on Tue, 30 October 2018, 17:29:28
Post by: switchnollie on Tue, 30 October 2018, 17:36:15
Gonna have to think about it due to the bottom row tho.
Post by: kookiemunstur on Tue, 30 October 2018, 17:42:20
Post by: donut_sauce on Tue, 30 October 2018, 17:42:38
Post by: young_won on Tue, 30 October 2018, 19:46:02
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 30 October 2018, 20:47:20
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Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Wed, 31 October 2018, 08:55:39
Post by: connor4312 on Wed, 31 October 2018, 10:05:33
Post by: suicidal_orange on Wed, 31 October 2018, 10:34:52
Where's the ISO mate ?It's impossible due to the small left shift. I suppose you could put the extra key where FN goes on a 60% if you can get your head around shift not being where it should be...
Post by: azhdar on Wed, 31 October 2018, 15:36:54
Where's the ISO mate ?It's impossible due to the small left shift. I suppose you could put the extra key where FN goes on a 60% if you can get your head around shift not being where it should be...
Oh yeah my bad. I was only looking at the Enter actually but you're right.
Post by: DJ Shoko on Thu, 01 November 2018, 00:57:52
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Post by: vonswoopington on Thu, 01 November 2018, 01:24:58
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 02 November 2018, 23:11:00
Do you have color samples / swatches of the navy?
We are working on getting one. Our original sample was pretty dark, but still quite nice. We are looking at getting something more blue navy then dark navy thought. I'll let you know more details when we have that information.
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 02 November 2018, 23:15:37
This would be 9:00 AM (9:00) on the Previous Day for Eastern Standard Time, or 6:00 AM (6:00) on the Previous Day for Pacific.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 03 November 2018, 00:31:45
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 03 November 2018, 02:02:55
Do you have color samples / swatches of the navy?
We are working on getting one. Our original sample was pretty dark, but still quite nice. We are looking at getting something more blue navy then dark navy thought. I'll let you know more details when we have that information.
As you may have seen, interpretations of 'dark or navy or blue' has varied so wildly from maker to maker, far more than it should, considering.
Personally whatever dark sample you had could never be too dark for me --- most of the ano processes seem like they lighten and end nowhere close to their intended navy, deep, or dark, by the time they ship..... stoked to likely get in on your version of dark navy, soon.
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 03 November 2018, 02:03:47
There's an additional sound test, for those who favour cherry profile. Check it out below, once again a big thanks to taekeyboards for doing the extra miles for us!
Random non-sequitur - - - taekbs is the friggin best.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 03 November 2018, 03:23:06
Yes, taekb is a great dude and big community member in Australia. There's a sydney meetup he's organising in december so if you are local, be sure to check it out :)
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sat, 03 November 2018, 04:29:49
That's so true about navy.
Yes, taekb is a great dude and big community member in Australia. There's a sydney meetup he's organising in december so if you are local, be sure to check it out :)
I know A very well! Sadly i am across the globe in Cali. Have a great meet!
Post by: factoryofidols on Sun, 04 November 2018, 23:06:11
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 05 November 2018, 00:25:23
Our prototype unit is the gray we are offering, the other colours from left to right are - black, silver, rose gold and navy.
I am coming around to liking this navy more for the board, since it would match the brass accent. We are not doing rose gold for that reason.
If people are happy with this navy (it's grown on me), then we will run it as navy.
Post by: donut_sauce on Mon, 05 November 2018, 06:19:39
I have attached the colours samples we have received.The Navy looks fantastic! From the photo it reads as almost a blue-gray. Would it be possible to get a couple more photos of that sample at different angles relative to the light?
Our prototype unit is the gray we are offering, the other colours from left to right are - black, silver, rose gold and navy.
I am coming around to liking this navy more for the board, since it would match the brass accent. We are not doing rose gold for that reason.
If people are happy with this navy (it's grown on me), then we will run it as navy.
Post by: WeathermanKarlos on Mon, 05 November 2018, 16:16:24
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 05 November 2018, 20:29:51
Post by: ihalatch on Tue, 06 November 2018, 01:03:50
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Tue, 06 November 2018, 02:13:05
Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Tue, 06 November 2018, 02:29:12
What's the height of the front side?
19.00mm, has it on the website under "Specifications", as well as under "Features & Specifications" on the OP :)
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 07 November 2018, 22:43:37
Just to reiterate our colour intentions, we'll be running Navy in the sample colour as shown above, which is closer to a dark navy than a blue steel. Added the samples under different angles and light.
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We will NOT be running rose gold for this buy, the sample is nice but we felt like it took away from the brass accent.
There's also some collaborations to go with the Aegis:
First up, we are in talks with rama.works to design a nice little memento of our brand launch, a nice aluminium cap with AE logo with an enamel fill. This cap will only be available with purchases for the aegis for now, but I may order a few extras depending on how we go. Big shout out to rama.works for talking and designing the cap with us, especially in their busy schedule. Legends.
Next, is a braided cable with tech flex from Australia's own DMacMakes. Cable quality is great and he also does colour matching custom cables upon request. The cable in the set will match your aegis chosen colour. They will be USB A -> XLR, and XLR -> USB C, with gold connectors.
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Finally, a custom sleeve for the aegis, with aegis art on the back and logo on the front.
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All of these collabs are option and limited for this aegis run, and entirely up to you if you want them. I'm excited to be able to bring these to you with the gb launch!
Post by: MegalaDump on Thu, 08 November 2018, 00:13:42
Post by: indiceiris on Thu, 08 November 2018, 06:49:42
Post by: donut_sauce on Thu, 08 November 2018, 07:17:15
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 08 November 2018, 19:15:31
Post by: jizzaztartist on Thu, 08 November 2018, 23:31:32
I would pay 800 for one w\o that stuff.
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 09 November 2018, 07:01:29
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 09 November 2018, 07:07:09
You've got a PM btw.
Post by: actualglacier on Fri, 09 November 2018, 07:21:06
Post by: gain on Fri, 09 November 2018, 07:43:40
(like 30mins ago, forgot to hit post lol)
Post by: patch on Fri, 09 November 2018, 08:05:10
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 09 November 2018, 15:47:12
Post by: Regret on Fri, 09 November 2018, 16:12:43
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 10 November 2018, 05:56:48
Post by: Burt Macklin on Sat, 10 November 2018, 12:12:37
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 10 November 2018, 19:48:20
Post by: Lepr3chaun on Sat, 10 November 2018, 21:20:53
This looks amazing either way.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 10 November 2018, 22:04:30
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 12 November 2018, 02:14:56
Post by: Regret on Mon, 12 November 2018, 11:31:45
Post by: donut_sauce on Mon, 12 November 2018, 11:36:48
Would it be possible to change the desired color choice before or after the invoice? I selected Grey, but after some thought I would like to change to the Navy. :)username checks out ;)
Post by: Regret on Mon, 12 November 2018, 11:39:47
Would it be possible to change the desired color choice before or after the invoice? I selected Grey, but after some thought I would like to change to the Navy. :)username checks out ;)
Oof, too true. All the colors look so nice!
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 12 November 2018, 17:42:14
Would it be possible to change the desired color choice before or after the invoice? I selected Grey, but after some thought I would like to change to the Navy. :)
Not a problem, just pm me your pp address and I can change it.
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 12 November 2018, 19:20:38
Here's a pie chart of the colour popularity, so if you wanted something a bit more unique then maybe silver is the way to go. Personally, I'm going for navy.
Post by: Kawamashi on Tue, 13 November 2018, 01:56:45
Post by: Regret on Tue, 13 November 2018, 02:07:48
Post by: rondg on Tue, 13 November 2018, 06:32:42
Post by: Lepr3chaun on Tue, 13 November 2018, 13:14:17
Excited about this.
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 16 November 2018, 17:48:21
I missed this! Any chance that I can join the gb? ;DSorry I've already talked to the manu about starting the run. There will be a few extras though
Post by: Eri Kasamoto on Sun, 18 November 2018, 03:47:15
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 19 November 2018, 18:48:05
Will be looking out for the extras. Will there be any form to fill for those?
Once I have everything in stock, I'm likely to put them in a store front over at dailyclack.com. At least that's the plan, but stay on this thread to make sure you're in the loop.
Post by: Kawamashi on Tue, 20 November 2018, 03:10:24
Did you received my PMs ?
Post by: Eri Kasamoto on Wed, 21 November 2018, 00:09:12
Will be looking out for the extras. Will there be any form to fill for those?
Once I have everything in stock, I'm likely to put them in a store front over at dailyclack.com. At least that's the plan, but stay on this thread to make sure you're in the loop.
Got it, thank you for the heads-up.😊
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 05 December 2018, 14:46:42
The packaging is underway. I've got foam samplee coming in to test fit, which means that your aegis will be safe when being transported.
Pcb have been finalised and ordered, and this should arrive in a month. I'll be sure to take pics when they arrive.
I've has the manufacturer to produce a navy sample. The reason for this is that I wanted to finalise the design and ensure the quality and perfect fit. They have sent me pictures and it looks real nice. But they have requested me Not to run navy, as their anno shop said it was too hard to achieve the quality I want (just as well as I wanted to test navy sample). I've got pictures of the current anno and I agree with them, there are internal splotches and streaking. I've asked for them to try again with another pantone that is close to the original navy colour and see how those colours turn out. It's a big disappointment to not only me, but also the anno shop since the colour chip they provided was perfectly fine. I'll keep you all in the loop as we try to make the navy one work out.
Once I get the sample and everything fits, I'll start the manufacturing of the complete lot and other colours, while we sort out the navy colour problem.
Rama caps should be starting real soon. I've got half black and half navy made, so if you wanted a cap I'll be in touch later for colour choice. I'll be sure to post pics when I get them.
Cable man has my colour chips and will start on cables (except navy as we sort this out)
Sleeve sample is being sown and sent this weekend.
As for timeline, I think we are on track since I did buffer extra time for these problems and grabbing samples. But as things happens and normal gb ways, postage dates may slip a bit.
In any case, please do not let this bum you out, I'll try find a good compromise between us, me and the manufacturers. Enjoy your Christmas/end of year holidays and spend time with your family and forget about the gb. Keep safe.
Ps: the prototype aegis will be at the Sydney meet. I'll probably bring some cherry caps to fit on this so there's pics of cherry aegis floating around online.
Take care and be nice to each other!
Post by: Kawamashi on Wed, 05 December 2018, 15:42:27
Post by: Starius on Fri, 07 December 2018, 16:59:57
Think there will be another round in the future sometime?
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 09 December 2018, 02:56:39
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 10 December 2018, 16:13:57
My concern about the navy colour was not warranted. It seems like the potato pictures didn't do justice to the anno finish. Have a look at my potato pictures instead. From my pixel 2
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With a bit softer lighting
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And a weird flex from me, because it was an epic mail day
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So I am pretty happy how the navy turned out. I will meet the rest of the aeboards team and pic it apart for some rigorous QC'ing, but from the surface level, it looks pretty dope.
Once we have the PCBS in, I will test fit, then once we are happy with everything being perfect, we will start manufacturing.
So far, our communication with the manufacturer has been excellent and clear, and it shows in the delivery of this production sample. It's still in the manufacturing stage and so I hope we keep this relationship in tiptop shape!
This is the last call for colour changes. Please mention if you bought a cable, so I can update the cable guy to do the same colour. LAST CALL!
Have a safe holiday everyone.
PS: I messed up and now you have to click the links. I am sorry. I uploaded some thumbnails at the end.
Post by: patch on Tue, 11 December 2018, 08:22:10
Post by: Corgiattackkk on Tue, 11 December 2018, 12:39:54
Post by: Regret on Tue, 11 December 2018, 13:26:47
Post by: DJ Shoko on Tue, 11 December 2018, 13:39:25
Post by: Lepr3chaun on Tue, 11 December 2018, 23:27:42
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 17 December 2018, 05:39:27
So everything is confirmed with the manufacturer and they should be going into production. Hopefully they will be complete before CNY. Colours are locked in.
I've received the foam sample that will ship with the aegis, and it looks pretty sturdy. I've like to thank kevin from the board podcast for helping me out here.
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Here's one with a RAMA WAVES cap in the slot. If you ordered an AE cap, it will come in this slot. If you would like one, mention it when I message you about shipping.
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The foam boxes are being shipped. The boxes itself is in production, and hopefully I will get a sample image soon.
Oh and also a big shoutout to Wilba for putting the aegis into the VIA configurator. This means you should have a great user experience in programming the board. Thanks a lot!
Have a merry christmas all.
Post by: Woovie on Sun, 23 December 2018, 13:49:35
Post by: Zytyx on Sun, 13 January 2019, 20:00:27
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 14 January 2019, 03:35:56
Any more news on this sick board? It's really shaping up to be one of my more anticipated buys to receive.
Yeap!
PCBs are done! Boxes are done! They are being shipped as we speak.
Cases and Plates are being manufactured.
There's a few bits and pieces left to buy (screws, bumpons, electrostatic bag).
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Post by: Eri Kasamoto on Thu, 24 January 2019, 18:32:15
May not have the funds to jump on the extras...
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 24 January 2019, 21:29:32
I hope there will be at least a round 2 of this, even after the extra sales.🤔
May not have the funds to jump on the extras...
Not sure yet. Once the boards are out in the wild and opinions are set, we can think about running r2 if the desire is there.
Aegis is almost at a wrap, manufacturing is done and being shipped to me. I've received all the pcbs and packaging materials, and cables. Caps and sleeves should be here in the next week or so. There's still a tonne of work to do of course, QCing the boards, flashing the firmware, packing and invoicing for shipping, and I'm keen to see it all end soon and get these in the hands of our fans who joined us in the gb.
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 25 January 2019, 17:08:21
The manufacturer has sent the keyboards to me for QC so that should be arriving soon
Here's a preview of your unboxing experience
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Happy Australia Day!
Post by: Woovie on Mon, 28 January 2019, 12:25:50
Post by: TheloniousDrunk on Fri, 01 February 2019, 12:21:58
Post by: Peripheral Prophet on Fri, 01 February 2019, 13:00:24
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 04 February 2019, 00:40:42
Is there anyway to get in on this or is that wishful thinking... I have money, please take it, just take it all..
Nope! Not wishful thinking at all! I appreciate the support from everyone who wasn't around for the gb. I did order some extras, so once we have fulfilled all our gb participants, I will work out a way to fairly distribute the extras.
Post by: davidkoleda on Mon, 04 February 2019, 05:37:30
Is there anyway to get in on this or is that wishful thinking... I have money, please take it, just take it all..
Nope! Not wishful thinking at all! I appreciate the support from everyone who wasn't around for the gb. I did order some extras, so once we have fulfilled all our gb participants, I will work out a way to fairly distribute the extras.
Sounds great! Please sign me up for that
Post by: StrangPrisoner on Mon, 04 February 2019, 11:22:49
Post by: Capsy on Tue, 05 February 2019, 11:06:13
Post by: Jaxxstatic on Tue, 05 February 2019, 15:27:55
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 09 February 2019, 00:13:06
I'll be starting from the list, so expect invoices in the coming week or two.
gray and silver
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cables
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gray with some caps
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Post by: Captain Shwah on Sat, 09 February 2019, 09:18:59
Post by: Zytyx on Sat, 09 February 2019, 10:07:30
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Sat, 09 February 2019, 23:40:59
Post by: japanesehorrorwriter on Sun, 10 February 2019, 04:30:57
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 10 February 2019, 18:03:29
Really glad I joined this, though those shots of the Rama caps tho, think you'll have extras?
I got plenty! Black and navy. I guess the best way is to put a form up that you can request one with your shipping invoice?
I will sell the excess rama caps when the boards have been shipped out, so gb joiners have priority. There was a limited moq on these and mostly likely won't run the same design again.
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 10 February 2019, 18:04:42
Boom. Its happening.
Yeap! Thanks for the support! It's been real fun to do and so far everything ran smoothly. Once aegis is done, we already have our next design in mind so we will do it all over again! :)
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 11 February 2019, 01:47:18
https://goo.gl/forms/cCtpvlFM6ShI4jqW2
Post by: Retrias on Mon, 11 February 2019, 13:00:21
Post by: eyedrop on Mon, 11 February 2019, 13:47:43
Post by: Lepr3chaun on Tue, 12 February 2019, 21:21:18
Just filled out the Rama form had to have one now. Haha. Can’t wait to get this!
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 13 February 2019, 14:27:40
Some aussies already got them: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/aq3xi0/unboxing_aegis_by_aeboards/
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 13 February 2019, 14:30:09
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 13 February 2019, 23:36:14
There are still black and navy RAMA caps available, if you want one, just email me to fix up your shipping order. There are also 2 extra sleeves left.
Caps are 45 usd for gb buyers, sleeves are 30 usd.
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Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 15 February 2019, 02:52:32
We were almost at the home stretch with out any major hiccups. Too good to be true I thought, as what can go wrong will go wrong.
The PCBs being shipped out do not support 6.25u correctly. This is a major bummer for us, since we built the aegis with the prototype with single layout support for 6.25.
In between adding more layouts, including 7u, something went wrong between prototype and production. We accept the human error and have learnt that even triple checking things isn't enough, you need to build all the layouts possible.
We are opening the forum to discussion about what we should do, rerunning pcbs at this low moq and reshipping is quite expensive but is a reasonable expectation to have.
Is it acceptable to have r1 of aegis as 7u only? In the interim we will try to make things right and have a chat with the team and decided where to go from here. We welcome any feedback.
We were planning a new board that we think people will love in the near future but I want to solve this problem first and keep all our supporters as happy as possible.
Post by: Woovie on Fri, 15 February 2019, 06:21:12
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 15 February 2019, 07:05:05
I personally can handle 7u, it's not -that- different of a bottom row.
Thanks for your understanding. I'll be shipping out the next batch on Monday or Tuesday. About half have gone out already, all the Aussie and Korean orders have been sent. Most of the US ones have been sent while still waiting on a few more invoices.
Post by: Captain Shwah on Fri, 15 February 2019, 07:50:31
Post by: Kawamashi on Fri, 15 February 2019, 11:46:43
But it's no problem for me to wait !
Post by: Capsy on Fri, 15 February 2019, 11:49:49
Hey all GB participants,
We were almost at the home stretch with out any major hiccups. Too good to be true I thought, as what can go wrong will go wrong.
The PCBs being shipped out do not support 6.25u correctly. This is a major bummer for us, since we built the aegis with the prototype with single layout support for 6.25.
In between adding more layouts, including 7u, something went wrong between prototype and production. We accept the human error and have learnt that even triple checking things isn't enough, you need to build all the layouts possible.
We are opening the forum to discussion about what we should do, rerunning pcbs at this low moq and reshipping is quite expensive but is a reasonable expectation to have.
Is it acceptable to have r1 of aegis as 7u only? In the interim we will try to make things right and have a chat with the team and decided where to go from here. We welcome any feedback.
We were planning a new board that we think people will love in the near future but I want to solve this problem first and keep all our supporters as happy as possible.
What does 'correctly' mean? Does not fit properly? Does not fit at all?
Post by: Regret on Fri, 15 February 2019, 11:52:08
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 15 February 2019, 15:44:06
Hey all GB participants,
We were almost at the home stretch with out any major hiccups. Too good to be true I thought, as what can go wrong will go wrong.
The PCBs being shipped out do not support 6.25u correctly. This is a major bummer for us, since we built the aegis with the prototype with single layout support for 6.25.
In between adding more layouts, including 7u, something went wrong between prototype and production. We accept the human error and have learnt that even triple checking things isn't enough, you need to build all the layouts possible.
We are opening the forum to discussion about what we should do, rerunning pcbs at this low moq and reshipping is quite expensive but is a reasonable expectation to have.
Is it acceptable to have r1 of aegis as 7u only? In the interim we will try to make things right and have a chat with the team and decided where to go from here. We welcome any feedback.
We were planning a new board that we think people will love in the near future but I want to solve this problem first and keep all our supporters as happy as possible.
What does 'correctly' mean? Does not fit properly? Does not fit at all?
To be clear, there is a missing footprint for the switch on the bottom left control, which means you cannot put a switch in the right place for the cap to fit.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 16 February 2019, 05:16:34
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I'll show you how I achieved this, it's not super perfect but it's doable. There's also another way, to do this, I'll outline it below
As you can see it's about 1mm higher than it should be, due to the pins.
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First thing first, I prepared all the things I need. For this, I used HOLTITES (not neccessary) and some wire. I got the wire from a ethernet cable, you will be stripping it so you have a conductive wire, the idea behind this is that you want to get the switch pin touching the footprint using this wire.
The next thing is, putting all the stabilisers. I do this first, because I tend to FORGET about it until it is TOO LATE.
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I then did a quick test to see if my theory would work. You don't need to do this, but it will give you an idea what I'm trying to do.
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I used VIA configurator (https://rama.works/configurator) to configure this button to control for testing, since it is flashed as MO1 (momentary layer 1). Tapping the switch actives this key, so the theory works.
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Next is to apply this theory to the build.
I put in holtites, not necessary, bit it adds extra area for contact for the wire. The best way to install holtites is to tin the pad a little bit first, then press down on the holtite.
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The next things you want to do is:
Cut open the hole for the stem of the switch, as this will be blocking the switch from clipping to the plate.
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I use it using wire cutters and a small conical file. BEWARE OF THE TRACES. But if you did cut up the trace, not all is lost, you can use the same lan cable wire to bridge the switch to the diode.
Cut the switch pcb mount stems, making it plate mount.
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Bend pins and solder the wire to the pins.
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I did is this way, so the pin on top has a wire coming out from the top, and bottom pin is going through the middle, and they will not cross over, and avoid any chattering.
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I did add solder to the mix, to make sure nothing got loose when positioning
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Bend the wire into the holtites.
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Kind of like this, except I found that insulation of the wire made the gap between pin and pcb too big (this was an earlier attempt, as I didn't take a photo of the above switch solder design)
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Test / Solder the holtites if you wish.
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Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 16 February 2019, 05:18:46
Basically, enlarge the footprints about 3mm to the right, both the switch pins, and the stem hole. Avoid traces, but you can always bridge the connection if you do.
Then put your switch in, make sure you remove the pcb pins.
I will attempt to do this later, right now I'm gonig to ship more orders out.
Post by: tkeatingt on Sat, 16 February 2019, 06:14:05
Would you consider sending out a couple of holtites to help us out and make it a little easier? I haven't done anything like this and I feel like I'll end up shorting something :))
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 16 February 2019, 18:48:57
Oh man. Your email then reading the start of the posts scared the crap out of me, with ~80% of my cap sets not supporting 7u. Please next time, say that it's just one footprint that's wrong! 6.25u is definitely still usable, even if that key is rendered totally useless, which it shouldn't be with your wires solution.
Would you consider sending out a couple of holtites to help us out and make it a little easier? I haven't done anything like this and I feel like I'll end up shorting something :))
Haha sorry for the alarm. For me, it's a major disappointment because it's not the experience I wanted the gb participants to have. However the good thing is that of all the things that could have gone wrong (which is MANY in a typical group buy), at least it wasn't that bad in hindsight. The PCB is s definitely usable and if you have a drill with a small bit, it will be easier (which I don't have). Hopefully Wilba has time to show you how it's done, I am shipping his board on Monday and should arrive to him on Wednesday if you want to hold off.
I've already sent your board but I can send out the next ones with holtites and wires. Shipping such a small thing is not really cost effective from Australia (it's 15+ for anything really), so maybe you can source somewhere locally? I don't even think you NEED holtites to do it, I just used them so I could remove wires testing my theory (which I wrecked about 4 switches and pulled about 15 wires trying all sorts of angles).
I hope this doesn't detract your opinions and love for the board, it is a beautiful board and would like to thank you for supporting us.
Cheers,
Eric
Post by: tkeatingt on Sun, 17 February 2019, 09:51:39
Oh man. Your email then reading the start of the posts scared the crap out of me, with ~80% of my cap sets not supporting 7u. Please next time, say that it's just one footprint that's wrong! 6.25u is definitely still usable, even if that key is rendered totally useless, which it shouldn't be with your wires solution.
Would you consider sending out a couple of holtites to help us out and make it a little easier? I haven't done anything like this and I feel like I'll end up shorting something :))
Haha sorry for the alarm. For me, it's a major disappointment because it's not the experience I wanted the gb participants to have. However the good thing is that of all the things that could have gone wrong (which is MANY in a typical group buy), at least it wasn't that bad in hindsight. The PCB is s definitely usable and if you have a drill with a small bit, it will be easier (which I don't have). Hopefully Wilba has time to show you how it's done, I am shipping his board on Monday and should arrive to him on Wednesday if you want to hold off.
I've already sent your board but I can send out the next ones with holtites and wires. Shipping such a small thing is not really cost effective from Australia (it's 15+ for anything really), so maybe you can source somewhere locally? I don't even think you NEED holtites to do it, I just used them so I could remove wires testing my theory (which I wrecked about 4 switches and pulled about 15 wires trying all sorts of angles).
I hope this doesn't detract your opinions and love for the board, it is a beautiful board and would like to thank you for supporting us.
Cheers,
Eric
It's only a fairly minor thing, you guys will learn from it and hopefully keep coming with some more great designs :thumb:
If you could get him to detail the bit sizes he uses, how successful it was and any issues arising that would be fantastic and help us make a choice on what we want to do. And also maybe where the bridging should be routed if the trace is damaged (I can't tell from looking at the pcb pictures). Thanks!
Post by: Kawamashi on Sun, 17 February 2019, 10:49:49
We are opening the forum to discussion about what we should do, rerunning pcbs at this low moq and reshipping is quite expensive but is a reasonable expectation to have.
I understand rerunning pcbs is not ideal for you guys, but is this solution already discarded ?
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 17 February 2019, 16:47:06
I wrote an email to the gb participants and the cost of running pcbs again is not cost effective especially at the low moq we ran for this buy.
As for drill bit sizes and traces I'll take photos and let you know asap.
Post by: Kawamashi on Mon, 18 February 2019, 02:09:16
Post by: Woovie on Mon, 18 February 2019, 03:25:55
Thanks
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 February 2019, 04:41:01
If you use 7u, it's the right key to use and won't have a gap.
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 February 2019, 04:41:42
OK, in this case would it be possible to pack some holtites with the board not shipped yet to help people in this operation ?
Yes I will pack holtited and wires for the remaining orders.:)
Post by: Woovie on Mon, 18 February 2019, 05:08:43
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 February 2019, 19:20:31
I've just come back from holidays, and paid the shipment bill. I just want to be sure the additional PCB I ordered is taken into account, the shipment bill wasn't really clear about it.We are opening the forum to discussion about what we should do, rerunning pcbs at this low moq and reshipping is quite expensive but is a reasonable expectation to have.
I understand rerunning pcbs is not ideal for you guys, but is this solution already discarded ?
Just packed yours now with the extra PCB :) Will be shipped tomorrow! :)
Take care bud :)
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 February 2019, 20:55:38
Oh man. Your email then reading the start of the posts scared the crap out of me, with ~80% of my cap sets not supporting 7u. Please next time, say that it's just one footprint that's wrong! 6.25u is definitely still usable, even if that key is rendered totally useless, which it shouldn't be with your wires solution.
Would you consider sending out a couple of holtites to help us out and make it a little easier? I haven't done anything like this and I feel like I'll end up shorting something :))
Please be extremely careful when making the new hole.
These are the traces, do not cut into them! Take your time to extend and do not get bigger than the reference hole to the side. Only attempt if you know what you're doing, and good at hacking things!
If you are not confident with this, I suggest to stay to 7U.
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Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 18 February 2019, 21:30:09
if you were looking for an extra, pm me on geekhack. I have about 7 left, no silvers are left though.
I will be raising the price to 420USD for the base, but the pcb/plate kits stay at 90 and rama caps at 45.
This is to cover a bit of estimated costs that blew over (and gb participants took the risk of joining us, an unknown gb buyer)
I will also have a kit of Bstock at the gb price of 380, which have slight anno problems. If you're happy to take one, I'll send over pics. From memory, is it a black kit.
After this, AEGIS GB will be closed and complete.
Will like to thank everyone involved. It was a year long project, on and off, and thank my partners in crime, SolidSnake and Xelus.
I'll be writing a blog soon about our adventure, our design challenges, and what our next steps are, stay tuned all.
Once again: a big apology for the missing footprint on 6.25U. I will have extra steps in place to ensure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
Post by: Woovie on Mon, 18 February 2019, 23:12:39
The rest of the boards will shipping out in the next few days.
if you were looking for an extra, pm me on geekhack. I have about 7 left, no silvers are left though.
I will be raising the price to 420USD for the base, but the pcb/plate kits stay at 90 and rama caps at 45.
This is to cover a bit of estimated costs that blew over (and gb participants took the risk of joining us, an unknown gb buyer)
I will also have a kit of Bstock at the gb price of 380, which have slight anno problems. If you're happy to take one, I'll send over pics. From memory, is it a black kit.
After this, AEGIS GB will be closed and complete.
Will like to thank everyone involved. It was a year long project, on and off, and thank my partners in crime, SolidSnake and Xelus.
I'll be writing a blog soon about our adventure, our design challenges, and what our next steps are, stay tuned all.
Once again: a big apology for the missing footprint on 6.25U. I will have extra steps in place to ensure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
Thank you for running it, thank you for the clear communication! I'll be happy to buy in on a future project from you.
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 19 February 2019, 02:49:23
The rest of the boards will shipping out in the next few days.
if you were looking for an extra, pm me on geekhack. I have about 7 left, no silvers are left though.
I will be raising the price to 420USD for the base, but the pcb/plate kits stay at 90 and rama caps at 45.
This is to cover a bit of estimated costs that blew over (and gb participants took the risk of joining us, an unknown gb buyer)
I will also have a kit of Bstock at the gb price of 380, which have slight anno problems. If you're happy to take one, I'll send over pics. From memory, is it a black kit.
After this, AEGIS GB will be closed and complete.
Will like to thank everyone involved. It was a year long project, on and off, and thank my partners in crime, SolidSnake and Xelus.
I'll be writing a blog soon about our adventure, our design challenges, and what our next steps are, stay tuned all.
Once again: a big apology for the missing footprint on 6.25U. I will have extra steps in place to ensure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again.
Thank you for running it, thank you for the clear communication! I'll be happy to buy in on a future project from you.
Thanks for the support. There's a few coming projects that are mine/aeboard related.
Alice Wrist Rest r3, maybe an April 1st board, and a new aeboard design that's in the ideation phase.
Keep it real and thanks for joining :)
Post by: aeryxz on Tue, 19 February 2019, 18:25:34
I have signed up to DHL business account and that's taking time. The reason why I wanted to do that is that they do 2 day shipping (or claimed to), and right now my other service takes up to two weeks. So once I have the account set up (which is today, hopefully, fingers cross), the labels get whacked on the boxes and get shipped out tomorrow. Tracking should go to your emails as well. I have trust in DHL, I've used them before, AND they have an option to carbon neutral.
Sorry, I know that you all have been expected tracking, but I do think that using DHL would be quicker and less stressful smashing that f5 button on tracking.
Take care all :)
Post by: Regret on Tue, 19 February 2019, 18:40:33
Post by: aeryxz on Wed, 20 February 2019, 19:51:42
Oof I assume this applies to the packages that have yet to ship out? My tracking estimates delivery for early march.
Yeah!
DHL Finally got back to me mid way through the shipping process. But for the most part sendle has been quick as well, and ahead of estimations. Hopefully will arrive to you soon in all it's glory :)
Post by: MegalaDump on Thu, 21 February 2019, 00:28:52
Oof I assume this applies to the packages that have yet to ship out? My tracking estimates delivery for early march.
Yeah!
DHL Finally got back to me mid way through the shipping process. But for the most part sendle has been quick as well, and ahead of estimations. Hopefully will arrive to you soon in all it's glory :)
Mine appears to be ahead of delivery estimates as well. It should arrive tomorrow if I'm not mistaken. Will post pics of the build when I get the chance to build it :D
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 21 February 2019, 02:55:06
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END OF AN ERA.
A big thanks to everyone. Pretty sure all the extras/bstock are accounted for as well.
Big internet hugs all around!
Post by: patch on Thu, 21 February 2019, 07:10:03
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 21 February 2019, 15:43:49
I'm the guy with the address change BTW :P
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 24 February 2019, 06:49:56
Post by: TheloniousDrunk on Sun, 24 February 2019, 09:13:07
Post by: aeryxz on Sun, 24 February 2019, 18:36:15
No chance for a R2?
Not right now, just finished r1 and doing another design at the moment. Stay tuned
Post by: Capsy on Sun, 24 February 2019, 18:59:53
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 25 February 2019, 04:01:40
I know you guys will probably shift your attention to other projects now but is there an aegis build video up somewhere? If not, it'd be awesome if you guys could do a basic build video. Thanks.
Yeap, there should be done uhhh... soonish. Parts are coming and Taekeyboards will be doing a build video for it. So it might take some time for the build + editing and publishing.
Post by: WeathermanKarlos on Sat, 02 March 2019, 21:56:21
Or are those caps designed to be put on that way? I've never built a board with a numpad before.
Post by: MightyFineShindig on Sun, 03 March 2019, 00:18:31
I've already built my Aegis and a number of numpads and this has never been an issue for me.
Post by: WeathermanKarlos on Sun, 03 March 2019, 08:10:17
The switch stems should be the same regardless of orientation.
I've already built my Aegis and a number of numpads and this has never been an issue for me.
Well the reason I bring it up is that mx switch stems aren't the same either orientation, you can even visually tell that the cruciform is thicker horizontally than it is vertically. Maybe keycap stems are the same though, I don't know what kind of tolerances the manufacturers use. Even then it might not matter enough to be an issue, I'm not really sure.
Post by: ACTOR_of_VALOR on Sun, 03 March 2019, 20:11:05
This is my first time flashing a board, so I may be mistaken, but could someone point me in the right direction as to how to flash a new layout onto the board? The video below mentions that you need to connect it in reset mode.
Thanks!
Post by: patch on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:32:12
https://rama.works/configurator
Post by: d-yoshi on Sun, 03 March 2019, 21:56:14
Post by: ACTOR_of_VALOR on Sun, 03 March 2019, 22:27:20
hey boss. no idea on how qmk works and all but eric told me to use this. all worked well <3
https://rama.works/configurator
Thank you so much! This is so much simpler than trying to flash the hex file.
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 04 March 2019, 06:50:37
hey boss. no idea on how qmk works and all but eric told me to use this. all worked well <3
https://rama.works/configurator
Thank you so much! This is so much simpler than trying to flash the hex file.
Yeap! Thanks to Wilba for helping us with that. I hope you guys are enjoying the boards! I just built one today with healios and mx zilents https://www.instagram.com/p/BukPpalnXUn/ - to go along with my holy pandas ones. I have both 6.25 and 7u versions now! :)
Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 04 March 2019, 06:51:55
I know you guys will probably shift your attention to other projects now but is there an aegis build video up somewhere? If not, it'd be awesome if you guys could do a basic build video. Thanks.Hey there, taekeyboards recently got a board from me, so there should be a video soon, and I heard taehatypes also got his hands on one.
Post by: aeryxz on Thu, 07 March 2019, 19:37:07
I know you guys will probably shift your attention to other projects now but is there an aegis build video up somewhere? If not, it'd be awesome if you guys could do a basic build video. Thanks.Hey there, taekeyboards recently got a board from me, so there should be a video soon, and I heard taehatypes also got his hands on one.
Check out this video! :)
Post by: Capsy on Thu, 07 March 2019, 19:48:31
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Post by: patch on Tue, 12 March 2019, 04:01:01
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Post by: Rogue_Jellybean on Tue, 12 March 2019, 06:09:05
got a chance to open her up today, it looks super good man!
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First proper pics that I can remember of Silver, looks awesome! Make sure to post pics when it's done for us poor people ;)
Post by: patch on Wed, 13 March 2019, 10:40:30
[attach=1] :eek: :eek: :) ;)
Post by: Capsy on Wed, 13 March 2019, 10:49:11
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Post by: Jaxxstatic on Wed, 13 March 2019, 14:07:58
got around to building both!Very nice ;)
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Post by: Sintpinty on Wed, 13 March 2019, 14:25:13
Post by: Capsy on Sat, 16 March 2019, 17:47:04
Post by: Regret on Sat, 16 March 2019, 21:52:40
Nathan (taehatypes) is doing an Aegis 1800 build live right now on twitch.
Sounded so good! Can't wait to get it back from him :D
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Post by: Capsy on Sat, 16 March 2019, 21:53:59
Well that's just how good Nathan is. I've watched almost every stream of his and I still learn something new everytime.Nathan (taehatypes) is doing an Aegis 1800 build live right now on twitch.
Sounded so good! Can't wait to get it back from him :D
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Post by: Capsy on Sat, 16 March 2019, 21:55:16
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Post by: Capsy on Sun, 07 April 2019, 14:39:18
Lubed healios + GMK LedZep.(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190407/527369123c7498230f0d9ddade8aa429.jpg)
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Post by: aeryxz on Mon, 08 April 2019, 06:08:41
My lazy ass finally got around to building it.haven't seen led zeppelin in a looooooooooooooooong time. looks awesome :)
Lubed healios + GMK LedZep.Show Image(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190407/527369123c7498230f0d9ddade8aa429.jpg)
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Post by: Woovie on Sun, 14 April 2019, 16:55:03
Post by: shinz0 on Wed, 24 April 2019, 19:46:19
n e extras avail?
Post by: elpepe21 on Wed, 24 April 2019, 21:33:08
Looks like everything went pretty smooth too. :thumb:
Post by: aeryxz on Fri, 26 April 2019, 02:49:13
so like.. ugh..
n e extras avail?
Sorry none are avail
Post by: mr scooty on Mon, 03 June 2019, 12:04:36
also any word on what the new June project is you tease on your website?
Post by: Woovie on Tue, 09 July 2019, 18:18:16
Any chance of getting the PCB and plate file? I'd like to make another plate of a different material and get a fixed PCB made.
Thanks!
Post by: DJ Shoko on Tue, 09 July 2019, 18:28:34
(https://raysasquach.s-ul.eu/iScI587B.png)
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 13 July 2019, 05:29:32
I just wanted to drop this in here since this thread was bumped up:Show Image(https://raysasquach.s-ul.eu/iScI587B.png)
that is beautiful man!
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 13 July 2019, 05:30:31
Hello,
Any chance of getting the PCB and plate file? I'd like to make another plate of a different material and get a fixed PCB made.
Thanks!
I think I can provide a plate file - just been super busy with life at the moment.
Post by: aeryxz on Sat, 13 July 2019, 05:50:29
any plans to run this again??
also any word on what the new June project is you tease on your website?
No plans to run aegis again yet.
The new
We have a new board coming out soon, and it shares DNA with the aegis in terms of the design language, but it will feature a different layout that I feel is less divisive than the aegis.
I was actually carrying it at a university recently (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByKJTW1nEhB/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByKJTW1nEhB/)).
We will have more key information soon but here's some of the main points:
- Left hand numberpad (2u's on the left reverse numpad style OR ortholinear grid of 1u)
- 65% on the right (fixed bottom row, normal or split backspace compat)
- designed to feel solid on your desk but light enough for portability. All boards will come with a sleeve so you can carry it in your bag. This board is definitely a user, not just to look good on your shelf.
- Gasket (it is 2019, year of them gaskets https://www.instagram.com/p/Bye4l1tHe9Q/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bye4l1tHe9Q/))
- QMK/VIA
- Black, Dark Gray, and 'aegis' Navy
- no GB -> Parts are being machined at the moment out of my pocket, so there is little risk as a gb buyer, and when you buy it, it will get to you asap!
+++ even more exciting things!
and there will be reviews and videos soon. I'm looking forward to reveal more to you all and hope you will also love this board too.
A big thanks to aeboard members (solidsnake, xelus), wilba, my family (who are supporting me in this busy time of my life), and the cool community of people who keep this hobby interesting.
Post by: Capsy on Sat, 13 July 2019, 06:53:59
So excited for thisany plans to run this again??
also any word on what the new June project is you tease on your website?
No plans to run aegis again yet.
The newJuneJuly (Maybe August?) will be revealed soon, but as I said above, I have a lot of things going on in my life at the moment - but I would like to reveal some more information to people who are still in this thread.
We have a new board coming out soon, and it shares DNA with the aegis in terms of the design language, but it will feature a different layout that I feel is less divisive than the aegis.
I was actually carrying it at a university recently (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByKJTW1nEhB/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/ByKJTW1nEhB/)).
We will have more key information soon but here's some of the main points:
- Left hand numberpad (2u's on the left reverse numpad style OR ortholinear grid of 1u)
- 65% on the right (fixed bottom row, normal or split backspace compat)
- designed to feel solid on your desk but light enough for portability. All boards will come with a sleeve so you can carry it in your bag. This board is definitely a user, not just to look good on your shelf.
- Gasket (it is 2019, year of them gaskets https://www.instagram.com/p/Bye4l1tHe9Q/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/Bye4l1tHe9Q/))
- QMK/VIA
- Black, Dark Gray, and 'aegis' Navy
- no GB -> Parts are being machined at the moment out of my pocket, so there is little risk as a gb buyer, and when you buy it, it will get to you asap!
+++ even more exciting things!
and there will be reviews and videos soon. I'm looking forward to reveal more to you all and hope you will also love this board too.
A big thanks to aeboard members (solidsnake, xelus), wilba, my family (who are supporting me in this busy time of my life), and the cool community of people who keep this hobby interesting.
Post by: blakstealth on Mon, 15 July 2019, 13:45:10
Post by: SleepIsAllINeed on Thu, 01 August 2019, 18:38:28
Post by: Woovie on Sat, 03 August 2019, 13:22:46
https://forms.gle/8LTDzhXdcD5ENvra8
Price TBD, but since it's self-assembled, shouldn't be too expensive. Note: You need to be able to solder small components, this isn't an easy soldering job.