Alps Appreciation Thread

[chyros]

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

[E3E]

Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

[bocahgundul]

Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

It's cool if someone could make a plate that support both switches

[njbair]

Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

It's cool if someone could make a plate that support both switches

It's been done. And this has the added benefit of allowing MX switch tops to be removed. But it's not done often.

[bocahgundul]

Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

It's cool if someone could make a plate that support both switches

It's been done. And this has the added benefit of allowing MX switch tops to be removed. But it's not done often.

Now thats cool! We need a GB for case and this AlpsMX pcb and plate and that would be awesome

[jacobolus]

[Just a side note: you guys don’t need to quote the full context of 4–5 messages that everyone can already see immediately above in order to make a short response. Or if you want you can use a 'more' tag if you really think a large amount of context is necessary. :-) For example:

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Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

It's cool if someone could make a plate that support both switches

It's been done. And this has the added benefit of allowing MX switch tops to be removed. But it's not done often.

Now thats cool! We need a GB for case and this AlpsMX pcb and plate and that would be awesome

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Alps/MX plates work great, but I’d recommend only using them with a PCB that you can firmly solder switches down to. For hand wiring, go for the standard square / rectangular switch holes.

[E3E]

It's been done. And this has the added benefit of allowing MX switch tops to be removed. But it's not done often.

Yep, JD's typical plate design for MX switches includes notches that also allow Alps switches as seen in LeandereN's universal 60% plates, of which I'm using two carbon fiber variants for my Duck Eagle builds w/ Alps. The only reason they work for me is because the Alps DCS modifiers from Badwrench fit perfectly with Cherry stabs, and because I stem-swapped a Gateron 7u PBT space bar. The Tai Hao Alps caps with the 6.25u space bars fit flawlessly though.

It's also in my experience that Alps keys require less stabilization than MX keys, imo. I've used every key except the space bar, of course, without stabilization (I don't think I've used the long right shift this way thought) on my Infinity and when I experimented on one of my Eagle builds with no negative result. A marginal loss in smoothness, but the keys worked fine and there was no seesawing or anything like that.

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As to the plates that have this design. JDCarpe's designs have them typically AFAIK, the Infinity keyboard has this design, the landmark titanium plates that were sold a year and some time ago have them, and the plates on the LZ/LifeZone's custom boards seem to all have this style of notched plate design.

[jdcarpe]

Also, the upcoming JD45 and revised JD40 PCBs will support both Alps and MX switches.

[bocahgundul]

[Just a side note: you guys don’t need to quote the full context of 4–5 messages that everyone can already see immediately above in order to make a short response. Or if you want you can use a 'more' tag if you really think a large amount of context is necessary. :-) For example:

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Will a Alps switch fit in a MX board or is that to broad of a question? Sorry for the newbie question I have never used Alps.

There are PCBs that were made to specifically accomodate both, both vintage and current, but discounting these specialised plates they are not compatible, no.

Yep, in terms of vintages, my FAME TH-5539 keyboard and NTC 6151N keyboards both support MX, obviously not when it comes to the plate, but the PCB supports plate-mounted MX switches.

In terms of modern, my Duck Eagle PCBs support MX and Alps, plate or PCB mounted on the MX side, and there's also the Infinity keyboard which supports both as does its cousin, the Infinity ErgoDox.

Leeku made a fullsize MXAlps PCB for Cherry 3000 boards, I think? My OG Cherry knowledge is kind of limited, but I know he made one that supported both and it wasn't the Alphas PCB.

I'm thinking the new VE.A will have both MX and Alps in the same board, but I could be wrong.

I like calling boards that support Cherry MX and Alps SKCM/SKCL "MXAlps" boards, just FYI. It's got a nice ring to it~

It's cool if someone could make a plate that support both switches

It's been done. And this has the added benefit of allowing MX switch tops to be removed. But it's not done often.

Now thats cool! We need a GB for case and this AlpsMX pcb and plate and that would be awesome

]

Alps/MX plates work great, but I’d recommend only using them with a PCB that you can firmly solder switches down to. For hand wiring, go for the standard square / rectangular switch holes.

Thank you for the suggestion bro I will use the trick

Also, the upcoming JD45 and revised JD40 PCBs will support both Alps and MX switches.

Yay, Can you make some TKL or 60% board bro? 

[klennkellon]

I've determined I don't really like Complicated White ALPS that much, they feel really clunky and it feels like typing is a hassle, I even prefer my Keycool with Kailh Reds, makes me miss my MX Blues, however ALPS have a delicious sound.

I've been told Matias switches are quite smoother and a bit lighter so I might give them a try in the future.

[jacobolus]

I've determined I don't really like Complicated White ALPS that much, [...] I've been told Matias switches are quite smoother and a bit lighter

Clicky Matias switches and white Alps switches are pretty similar.

[njbair]

I've determined I don't really like Complicated White ALPS that much, [...] I've been told Matias switches are quite smoother and a bit lighter

Clicky Matias switches and white Alps switches are pretty similar.

I agree. I didn't realize how similar they were until I built my Alps Party HHKB with Matias Clicks.

My first Alps experience was a new old stock Unitek white Alps board I bought here on GH. I didn't like them at first, either. I thought they were too wobbly and I didn't like the tactile feel. I thought the actuation force was too hard--not the spring weight, mind you, but the force required to push past the bump. So I set the board aside.

My next Alps board was the alps64 AEKII I built from Nubbinator's plate buy. I used orange Alps from an Apple IIGS keyboard. I fell in love right away. The action was so smooth on those switches that I didn't mind the Alps wobble at all. In fact, I came to appreciate it. Thanks to their wobbliness, Alps have a much more forgiving "angle of attack," so that if you strike a key off-center it's less likely to bind. This makes for, I think, a much more fluid stock typing experience than all but the most meticulously-lubed MX switches.

After a while with the orange Alps I decided to give that old white Alps board another try, and this go around I liked white Alps a lot more. They have an almost "crunchy" feel unlike any other switch I've tried. Not scratchy, but crunchy. The up-down motion is smooth but the push past the bump feels like it actually comprises multiple small bumps. This unique action, combined with the higher actuation point, makes clicky Alps pretty much the only switches where I don't have to bottom out as I type.

The other thing I've noticed about Alps is that they don't need super thick keycaps to feel good. Their smoothness makes up for the lower overall weight. We obviously don't have a GMK class of keycaps for Alps, but I don't really think we need one. The Tai Hao OEM keycaps feel just fine on the Alps boards I've tried, as do SP DCS.

[Blaise170]

YMMV, White Alps are one of my least favorite types.

[fohat.digs]

Alps are all different, and dirt, wear, etc, can all effect them.

I am the original owner of an old Dell from the late-1990s with blacks and it still feels fine.

Whites seem stiff to me, but "Mr Northgate" Bob Tibbetts thinks that white and blue are pretty much the same and that lust for blue is pure hype ....

[bocahgundul]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

[fohat.digs]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

I have always resisted opening up Alps switches but I have a least a keyboard's worth of orange that I have been thinking of modding like that.
I would love to have a source for something equal to or better than blues, since they are so expensive and are not always in perfect condition, either.

Would you mind pointing me to the instructions for that mod? This thread has gotten to be a wall of TL;DR

[njbair]

Alps are all different, and dirt, wear, etc, can all effect them.

I am the original owner of an old Dell from the late-1990s with blacks and it still feels fine.

Whites seem stiff to me, but "Mr Northgate" Bob Tibbetts thinks that white and blue are pretty much the same and that lust for blue is pure hype ....

I've never heard of anyone equating whites and blues. I mean, other than the fact that they both click. But I will say I have noticed a difference among whites on different boards, so maybe some of them are closer to blues than others.

[bocahgundul]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

I have always resisted opening up Alps switches but I have a least a keyboard's worth of orange that I have been thinking of modding like that.
I would love to have a source for something equal to or better than blues, since they are so expensive and are not always in perfect condition, either.

Would you mind pointing me to the instructions for that mod? This thread has gotten to be a wall of TL;DR

Sure thing bro!
Here is the mod : http://imgur.com/a/pgWh2/embed

[E3E]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

I have always resisted opening up Alps switches but I have a least a keyboard's worth of orange that I have been thinking of modding like that.
I would love to have a source for something equal to or better than blues, since they are so expensive and are not always in perfect condition, either.

Would you mind pointing me to the instructions for that mod? This thread has gotten to be a wall of TL;DR

Alps modding is a joy! No need to feel shy about it. Pop those puppies open! I've not click modded my oranges, but I do hear that they're quite good.

[njbair]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

I have always resisted opening up Alps switches but I have a least a keyboard's worth of orange that I have been thinking of modding like that.
I would love to have a source for something equal to or better than blues, since they are so expensive and are not always in perfect condition, either.

Would you mind pointing me to the instructions for that mod? This thread has gotten to be a wall of TL;DR

Alps modding is a joy! No need to feel shy about it. Pop those puppies open! I've not click modded my oranges, but I do hear that they're quite good.

Great, now I've got to decide whether I want to do this on my next orange Alps build. Maybe I'll do one or two and try to compare them to my blues before committing to the whole batch.

[bocahgundul]

I mod an orange alps into clicky and I ****in love the switch even better now

I have always resisted opening up Alps switches but I have a least a keyboard's worth of orange that I have been thinking of modding like that.
I would love to have a source for something equal to or better than blues, since they are so expensive and are not always in perfect condition, either.

Would you mind pointing me to the instructions for that mod? This thread has gotten to be a wall of TL;DR

Alps modding is a joy! No need to feel shy about it. Pop those puppies open! I've not click modded my oranges, but I do hear that they're quite good.

They are really good!

[Blaise170]

In fact I prefer my NeXT with Blacks as opposed to several boards with Whites.

[chyros]

In fact I prefer my NeXT with Blacks as opposed to several boards with Whites.

Late or early black Alps? The difference is night and day, I've found.

[njbair]

In fact I prefer my NeXT with Blacks as opposed to several boards with Whites.

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[chyros]

In fact I prefer my NeXT with Blacks as opposed to several boards with Whites.

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That's not an Alps switch though .

[n__dles]

Avatar doesn't check out.

Yours doesn't either.

[njbair]

Avatar doesn't check out.

Yours doesn't either.

Wow. I had no idea.

Now I'm thinking about changing my avatar. Thanks a lot...

[sean]

Avatar doesn't check out.

Yours doesn't either.

Wow. I had no idea.

Now I'm thinking about changing my avatar. Thanks a lot...

Powerglove, not even once.

[Moistgun]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent.

I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place.

Are these worth modifying each individual leaf?  Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels? or was the wierdness just from bad manufacturing?

 

[E3E]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent.

I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place.

Are these worth modifying each individual leaf?  Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels? or was the wierdness just from bad manufacturing?

The board I got my Hebrew caps for my FAME (also a Tai Hao board but so much better built) was a Tai Hao APC TH-5539 and was flimsy as all hell with a plastic plate and a deceptive black back that looked metallic to me, in pictures, but turned out to just be plastic. The switches don't seem bad, but I just am quite bleh about that board because of its quality.

[Moistgun]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent.

I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place.

Are these worth modifying each individual leaf?  Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels? or was the wierdness just from bad manufacturing?

The board I got my Hebrew caps for my FAME (also a Tai Hao board but so much better built) was a Tai Hao APC TH-5539 and was flimsy as all hell with a plastic plate and a deceptive black back that looked metallic to me, in pictures, but turned out to just be plastic. The switches don't seem bad, but I just am quite bleh about that board because of its quality.

That's the thing. the board they came from was complete trash.  the plastic plate, the crap case, the key caps, the PCB, the stabilizers were all garbage.

But looking at the switches, other than not being the smoothest or perfectly built, the switches don't seem that bad once I fix them.
I just hope its not in vain and they stay this way after some use

[jacobolus]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps? [...] Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent. ¶ I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place. ¶ Are these worth modifying each individual leaf? Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels?

What do you mean by “worth”? If you like them, go for it! They shouldn’t change rapidly. On the other hand, I find these switches are often not the most reliable electrically. The contact mechanism is simple, and the cheaper of these types of switches can corrode and your signal will get bouncy.

If you overall like the general switch concept, but you want something more consistent, a bit more solid feeling, and more reliable, you could get a cheap early white Alps board from ~1990–1994 (often can find them in good condition for ~$30 shipped on eBay, or cheaper if you visit an e-cycler or similar).

[E3E]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent.

I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place.

Are these worth modifying each individual leaf?  Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels? or was the wierdness just from bad manufacturing?

The board I got my Hebrew caps for my FAME (also a Tai Hao board but so much better built) was a Tai Hao APC TH-5539 and was flimsy as all hell with a plastic plate and a deceptive black back that looked metallic to me, in pictures, but turned out to just be plastic. The switches don't seem bad, but I just am quite bleh about that board because of its quality.

That's the thing. the board they came from was complete trash.  the plastic plate, the crap case, the key caps, the PCB, the stabilizers were all garbage.

But looking at the switches, other than not being the smoothest or perfectly built, the switches don't seem that bad once I fix them.
I just hope its not in vain and they stay this way after some use

Man, all the power to you if you end up making them feel awesome and they end up more consistent. I love seeing appreciation toward the less appreciated switches.

[Moistgun]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps? [...] Ive found that the clickyness and force to actuate is far from consistent. ¶ I have opened a few, bent the leafs, reassembled, and found a happy place. ¶ Are these worth modifying each individual leaf? Will they slowly return to their weak and inconsistent levels?

What do you mean by “worth”? If you like them, go for it! They shouldn’t change rapidly. On the other hand, I find these switches are often not the most reliable electrically. The contact mechanism is simple, and the cheaper of these types of switches can corrode and your signal will get bouncy.

If you overall like the general idea, but you want something more consistent, a bit more solid feeling, and more reliable, you could get a cheap early white Alps board (often can find them in good condition for ~$30 shipped on eBay, or cheaper if you visit an e-cycler or similar).

By worth it, I meant, would my effort be wasted on a rapidly degrading shoddy switch mechanism.
I feel a little silly for not just buying known quality switches, but I don't make a lot of money and its not going to be cheap to get another case, plate, pcb, and keycaps.

On the other hand, if I do buy all the other components and end up with a ghosting mess of a keyboard, I will be upset at myself for using those bad switches in the first place.

[frogthejam19]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231821687788?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

someone must have really wanted orange alps really badly lol.

[jacobolus]

Whoa, what? I was watching that one and expecting it to go for like $50–70. It is a really nice keyboard, but two bidders throwing $500 at it seems quite extreme.

[frogthejam19]

Whoa, what? I was watching that one and expecting it to go for like $50–70. It is a really nice keyboard, but two bidders throwing $500 at it seems quite extreme.

I guess the person really wanted orange alps

[fohat.digs]

expecting it to go for like $50–70. It is a really nice keyboard, but two bidders throwing $500 at it seems quite extreme.

I would have said that $50-$70 was the going rate for a nice not-too-yellowed one with low serial number and sure orange. And perhaps twice that for new-in-box.

If somebody had said that it had cracked $200 I would have been very surprised.

Anybody who wants my immaculate M0115 (with original cable) for $500 is quite welcome to send me a PM. I will ship it for free.

Co-incidentally, this morning I decided to swim in Alps waters for a while and pulled down my black Dell AT101W with orange Alps and PBT caps (with a weight bar from an early one cobbled in, along with case padding). This is a very nice keyboard and true-ANSI to boot.

[chyros]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

I've tried Type OA2, Type T4, Type T5, and Xiang Min KSB-C, as well as Matiases (only the first three in a board). From my experience, the clones with the copper leaves are considerably inferior to those that use the full-size steel leaves; Type OA2s in particular do relatively well and aren't bad switches. The large contacts seem to feel better than simplified-style ones, too (which have a second tactile point).

I also recently got some of the red-and-black, mysterious LARB01 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/USw_LARB01) switches. They have a bizarre feel where any and all resistance seem to completely vanish after the tactile bump, almost as if there isn't a coil spring in the board at all. Although I don't think these have been found in any keyboard at all, I'd very much like to try these out properly sometime.

Do your switches have the copper leaf or the steel type?

[Moistgun]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231821687788?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

someone must have really wanted orange alps really badly lol.

Oh my goodness.

[Moistgun]

Have any of you beautiful people used any fake Alps?

I got a crappy Levetron keyboard from a friend to disassemble and learn soldering basics.
This board has these specific knock offs.  https://deskthority.net/wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_series

I've tried Type OA2, Type T4, Type T5, and Xiang Min KSB-C, as well as Matiases (only the first three in a board). From my experience, the clones with the copper leaves are considerably inferior to those that use the full-size steel leaves; Type OA2s in particular do relatively well and aren't bad switches. The large contacts seem to feel better than simplified-style ones, too (which have a second tactile point).

I also recently got some of the red-and-black, mysterious LARB01 (https://deskthority.net/wiki/USw_LARB01) switches. They have a bizarre feel where any and all resistance seem to completely vanish after the tactile bump, almost as if there isn't a coil spring in the board at all. Although I don't think these have been found in any keyboard at all, I'd very much like to try these out properly sometime.

Do your switches have the copper leaf or the steel type?

It uses 2 individual contact plates and 1 copper leaf

[jacobolus]

I would have said that $50-$70 was the going rate for a nice not-too-yellowed one with low serial number and sure orange. And perhaps twice that for new-in-box.

This is “I doubt it was ever used”, loose in “not the original” box, with no cord. If it was really NIB I also wouldn’t be surprised at $150.

[venyv]

How well do the alps to mx adapter work? Do they make the key stick up any higher or wobbly?

[E3E]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/231821687788?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

someone must have really wanted orange alps really badly lol.

Oh my goodness.

Please let this be shenanigans, because if it's not, it's just utter insanity.

What is going on in the keyboard world lately. Let me list my Focus FK-555 for $600 $1000 since it's in immaculate condition and is seldom seen.

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No, I could never sell any of my keyboards.

How well do the alps to mx adapter work? Do they make the key stick up any higher or wobbly?

They will always cause the key cap to sit higher up due to the nature of Alps sliders vs MX caps.

[Moistgun]

Since these switches sort of suck in the long run, maybe I can grab a plate, teensy, and some key caps, if any of them pop up cheap.
Make this a handwiring project. you know for the fun of it.

[chyros]

This reminds me of that AT101W that went for, what, >$130 or something? xD

[itzmeluigi]

I messaged the seller asking if the winner has paid yet and got this response:


Very curious to see if the winner pays.

[E3E]

I messaged the seller asking if the winner has paid yet and got this response:

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Very curious to see if the winner pays.

The Alps game is getting Cherry cray cray.

It's like the bidders are piranhas lost in a feeding frenzy.

This reminds me of that AT101W that went for, what, >$130 or something? xD

Not to get too off topic, but on the subject of Alps appreciation, did you manage to nab that black FK-2001, Chyros? D:

[Moistgun]

I messaged the seller asking if the winner has paid yet and got this response:

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Very curious to see if the winner pays.

That keyboard is almost more than my computer.

[chyros]

Not to get too off topic, but on the subject of Alps appreciation, did you manage to nab that black FK-2001, Chyros? D:

Urgh, no, unfortunately D: . It didn't even go for that much in the end, ironically enough. Shame, probably the best-looking keyboard I've ever seen .