Author Topic: [GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F (Read 2350600 times)

PancakeMSTR · « **Reply #1800 on:** Thu, 30 August 2018, 19:57:23 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Wed, 29 August 2018, 16:30:12

Sure, please email me if you decide to change.

Okay - thanks. I'll shoot you an email if I decide to go that way.

PancakeMSTR · « **Reply #1801 on:** Thu, 30 August 2018, 21:40:52 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Wed, 29 August 2018, 16:30:12

Sure, please email me if you decide to change.

Ellipse - you wouldn't be able to take a picture of an F77 in a beige and industrial case for me, would you?

ApocalypseMaow · « **Reply #1802 on:** Fri, 31 August 2018, 10:49:29 »

I can feel the light at the end of the tunnel!!!

Ellipse · « **Reply #1803 on:** Fri, 31 August 2018, 20:14:34 »

I just posted an update on the blog today:

Today we reached the $600,000 mark for Brand New Model F Keyboard orders!

Thanks to everyone for their patience with the factory on the journey towards brand new Model F keyboards made to IBM’s standards.

As noted in the prior update, assembly started this month with the 1,000 production springs/flippers and the final two remaining parts were approved and entered production earlier this month (200,000 keys and 199,000 springs). They are still working on producing those springs and keys. The other keyboard parts all finished production a while back and are awaiting assembly. The Carolina Blue ultra compact cases came out a darker shade of blue than specified, so I have ordered additional units to be made with Carolina Blue – if anyone wants the darker blue cases that look great (see photo below) please message me. A few Carolina Blue cases have not yet sold out in case anyone’s interested.

The 200,000 key production is moving along nicely and should be finished in the coming weeks. Below is a photo of one box of completed 1U keys. After that is done is the dye sub.

Here are the case colors - please note that the photos are not 100% accurate of the colors in person.
Industrial SSK color: https://imgur.com/wdxKhh8

Off-white/beige color: https://imgur.com/PE8K10Y

a_ak57 · « **Reply #1804 on:** Sun, 02 September 2018, 13:05:42 »

As someone unaware of the logistics of this type of thing, what kind of ETA are we looking at for the assembly process to finish and the shipping stage to begin?

Ellipse · « **Reply #1805 on:** Sun, 02 September 2018, 13:22:12 »

Should be around year end or early next year.

DasGnome · « **Reply #1806 on:** Sun, 02 September 2018, 13:26:13 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 02 September 2018, 13:22:12

Should be around year end or early next year.

Pmd you about changing case color. Should I have sent email instead?

Ellipse · « **Reply #1807 on:** Mon, 03 September 2018, 15:35:48 »

(replied over PM)

Ellipse · « **Reply #1808 on:** Mon, 10 September 2018, 21:08:14 »

The 200,000 keys are expected to finish later this week. The 199,000 remaining springs finished production and are being packaged for transport to the factory doing the assembly.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1809 on:** Mon, 10 September 2018, 22:00:14 »

I will be at the Washington DC meetup on Saturday 9/15 and the NJ meetup Sat. 9/22 if anyone wants to try out the new Model F keyboards.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1810 on:** Fri, 14 September 2018, 19:34:25 »

Video of me typing for the first time on a Model F in 1990:

The first keyboard I typed on was a Model F, attached to an IBM PC 5150 or 5160.

The video camera happened to be rolling!

Also below are photos of the completed springs. It is interesting that 5,000 springs can be packed in one bag!

LightningXI · « **Reply #1811 on:** Fri, 14 September 2018, 19:37:21 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Fri, 14 September 2018, 19:34:25

Video of me typing for the first time on a Model F in 1990:

The first keyboard I typed on was a Model F, attached to an IBM PC 5150 or 5160.

The video camera happened to be rolling!

Also below are photos of the completed springs. It is interesting that 5,000 springs can be packed in one bag!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Adorable video! What a funny coincidence that the video was taken that first time. Must be fate.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #1812 on:** Fri, 14 September 2018, 20:40:05 »

Good lord, you're young. I was rocking a sweet mullet in Jr. High at that date.

Kavik · « **Reply #1813 on:** Fri, 14 September 2018, 23:57:14 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 14 September 2018, 20:40:05

Good lord, you're young. I was rocking a sweet mullet in Jr. High at that date.

Haha, that's what I was thinking. He must be pretty close to my age.

Awesome video. I can't remember my first time typing or using a computer, but it was probably our Amiga 1000, which has a mechanical, yet very mushy feeling, keyboard. My dad's dream was to buy an IBM computer, but he never did because of cost (I think).

macclack · « **Reply #1814 on:** Sun, 16 September 2018, 08:40:55 »

Quote from: pixelpusher on Fri, 14 September 2018, 20:40:05

Good lord, you're young. I was rocking a sweet mullet in Jr. High at that date.

Yes, I think I was almost in jr. High by 1990, but I was typing away on an AEK rather than IBM.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1815 on:** Wed, 19 September 2018, 17:08:35 »

Production finished on the keys!

Now assembly, dye sub, and packaging are the only remaining steps (the springs finished last week).

[GB] F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! Kishsaver+Industrial Model F

pixelpusher · « **Reply #1816 on:** Wed, 19 September 2018, 17:09:59 »

Awesome news.

LightningXI · « **Reply #1817 on:** Wed, 19 September 2018, 17:53:29 »

Oh my. Bags on bags on bags.

Sifo · « **Reply #1818 on:** Wed, 19 September 2018, 18:11:46 »

wait i didn't realize there was blue cuz it wasn't on the site, wtf

atlas3686 · « **Reply #1819 on:** Thu, 20 September 2018, 01:21:16 »

Quote from: Sifo on Wed, 19 September 2018, 18:11:46

wait i didn't realize there was blue cuz it wasn't on the site, wtf

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/industrial-ssk-blue-keys/

I must admit now that I see that packet, I'm suddenly quite keen on them too. Are there some extra's Ellipse? Could I easily add that to my order?

Ellipse · « **Reply #1820 on:** Thu, 20 September 2018, 06:53:26 »

Yep you can still order everything that can be added to the cart

Ellipse · « **Reply #1821 on:** Sat, 22 September 2018, 09:43:24 »

Today I will be at the NJ meetup in case anyone wanted to try a Brand New Model F.

The hosting company for the project web site is currently experiencing an outage; the web site is not up and running just yet. They are working on restoring connectivity.

gaunt · « **Reply #1822 on:** Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:12:08 »

Terrific news, glad that so many parts have been getting approved now. I am really looking forward to getting my board, though I know it will have to be quite something to match the hype.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1823 on:** Mon, 24 September 2018, 18:14:06 »

I just posted a production update summary on the web site.

The web host for the site is now back up and running. There was a major outage over the weekend.

euphxenos · « **Reply #1824 on:** Fri, 28 September 2018, 13:24:55 »

Ellipse,

Can you elaborate on where you are in the process of getting the dye sub done for the keycaps? Have you found a factory to do it, gotten a sample, and approved it? Or do you still need to select a factory, get samples, adjust the font, go through multiple iterations, try different factories, etc. like you did with the springs?

Ellipse · « **Reply #1825 on:** Fri, 28 September 2018, 15:14:05 »

Sure, here is the status on the dye sub: As noted earlier I will be doing the dye sub and am being helped by a US dye sub firm and with tooling being built by the factory in China to be mailed to me. The original style legends have already carefully been redrawn by forum member Zed but may need minor adjustments based on the dye sub bleed. I've learned about the dye sub process for keys from one of the original Model F production supervising engineers, some folks at Unicomp, and those in the dye sub industry over a few decades. I don't have any other updates just yet, but we will not have the keys be a significant bottleneck in getting everything out - if it becomes one there will be an option to get the keyboard without new keys so that other keys can be used. The factory still needs time for assembly and packaging. The factory will continue keyboard assembly without dye sublimated keys and they will ship to me without the keys assembled as soon as assembly and packaging minus keys is finished (they started in August with springs-flippers).

Sifo · « **Reply #1826 on:** Fri, 28 September 2018, 23:20:07 »

rly wanna join the gb but with an upcoming trip to china i just couldn't afford it

looking forward to trying to grab one of them rare blue ones second hand in the future cuz this whole project has been pretty cool and i hope it wraps up nicely soon.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1827 on:** Sat, 29 September 2018, 15:30:26 »

Sifo we are still in the early bird round. You can still order later on. Feel free to sign up for the mailing list on the web site (scroll down and there will be a pop up for the mailing list) and I will keep you posted on the final round timing. Also some people are doing a down payment/payment over time to reserve their spot in line. Feel free to PM me and I will send you more details if interested.

Sifo · « **Reply #1828 on:** Sat, 29 September 2018, 20:22:36 »

subbed to newsletter then ^^

duynguyenle · « **Reply #1829 on:** Sun, 30 September 2018, 16:51:13 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Fri, 14 September 2018, 19:34:25

Video of me typing for the first time on a Model F in 1990:

The first keyboard I typed on was a Model F, attached to an IBM PC 5150 or 5160.

The video camera happened to be rolling!

Also below are photos of the completed springs. It is interesting that 5,000 springs can be packed in one bag!

(Attachment Link)
(Attachment Link)

Jesus H Christ that was a few months before I was even alive

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EvergreenTree · « **Reply #1830 on:** Tue, 02 October 2018, 07:29:45 »

I notice that the order deadline got pushed back to October 31st. Were there any delays in manufacturing or did you just want to give people more time to order?

euphxenos · « **Reply #1831 on:** Tue, 02 October 2018, 11:44:50 »

Quote from: EvergreenTree on Tue, 02 October 2018, 07:29:45

I notice that the order deadline got pushed back to October 31st. Were there any delays in manufacturing or did you just want to give people more time to order?

That order deadline has been getting moved out a month at the beginning of every month for a very long time now.

Unxmaal · « **Reply #1832 on:** Tue, 02 October 2018, 12:00:53 »

Quote from: EvergreenTree on Tue, 02 October 2018, 07:29:45

I notice that the order deadline got pushed back to October 31st. Were there any delays in manufacturing or did you just want to give people more time to order?

I was very concerned about that deadline, so I ordered on the last day of July in 2017.

It's been "extended" every month since then. The deadline is certainly a lie.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1833 on:** Tue, 02 October 2018, 16:43:46 »

Yes as noted before, the project has faced factory delays in the past year and from the beginning the the quality control of the Model F has been the top priority, not staying with any timelines - feel free to check out the production details on the web site blog for the challenges the factory has overcome. Production finished last month though we still have assembly, dye sub, and packaging. I just received some assembled spring samples a few days ago. Spring attacher 1 is working but the same 2 spring assembly machines mentioned before are still not producing springs to spec. The factory is working on this but it has taken longer than expected. If the springs are not correctly pressed to the flipper, the springs will separate from the flipper. We are getting there - thanks to everyone for their patience and for valuing the quality of these great Model F keyboards.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1834 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30 »

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

ptiede · « **Reply #1835 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:24:32 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

I'd be interested in adding a solenoid

LightningXI · « **Reply #1836 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:41:19 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

I would be _very_ interested. I can finally skip a Beamspring?!

tron · « **Reply #1837 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 21:10:19 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

I'd love to add a solenoid to my F62/77 boards. Is there a way to mount it to the case? The bottom pan on beamsprings typically have a mounting slot/spring bar or bolt.

InvidiousIgnoramus · « **Reply #1838 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 21:18:57 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

Add MORE noise to my model F? Sign me up!

Ellipse · « **Reply #1839 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 21:37:25 »

Yes tron there are two holes that can be used, normally used for threaded bumpers.

On DT, JP posted an ebay link with a lower price for potentially the same product - it's probably easiest to just order from there individually for $12 shipped and order the solenoid drivers from orihalcon. https://www.ebay.com/itm/271967978003 We will keep this as a DIY addon.

pixelpusher · « **Reply #1840 on:** Sun, 07 October 2018, 22:35:01 »

I would definitely give it a try.

sixdeuces · « **Reply #1841 on:** Mon, 08 October 2018, 10:39:51 »

Yeah, I'd be in for the solenoid for sure.

Xonar · « **Reply #1842 on:** Mon, 08 October 2018, 14:08:53 »

100% in for a solenoid

sundin · « **Reply #1843 on:** Tue, 09 October 2018, 02:47:09 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

i'm in too

Meowsaur · « **Reply #1844 on:** Tue, 09 October 2018, 12:52:10 »

Solenoid.
YES.

Ellipse · « **Reply #1845 on:** Tue, 09 October 2018, 21:00:19 »

Great, I've asked orihalcon to get in touch with those expressing interest as he's the only one who sells the solenoid driver xwhatsit add on board.

JohnSmith4623 · « **Reply #1846 on:** Tue, 09 October 2018, 22:26:46 »

Just wanted to pipe in and mention that I've finally been convinced to purchase one of these wonderful units. I was a bit skeptical at first, but reading through this thread and looking at the Q&As on the website, I'm confident I'm not getting a dud and I can see that Ellipse truly cares and is passionate about this project. Can't wait to see it in the mail, regardless of how long it takes haha.

StrangPrisoner · « **Reply #1847 on:** Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:11:17 »

Definitely want a solenoid.

GeneriksGiraffe · « **Reply #1848 on:** Wed, 10 October 2018, 01:36:22 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Tue, 09 October 2018, 21:00:19

Great, I've asked orihalcon to get in touch with those expressing interest as he's the only one who sells the solenoid driver xwhatsit add on board.

If its at the right price id totally want one as well.

Fluffypupper22 · « **Reply #1849 on:** Wed, 10 October 2018, 06:51:33 »

Quote from: Ellipse on Sun, 07 October 2018, 20:21:30

Anyone interested in adding a solenoid to their Model F? Some folks over at DT seem to have found a compatible new production solenoid that can be used with orihalcon's xwhatsit solenoid drivers. It would be great for someone to maybe do a group buy of those - I believe there is significant interest for adding solenoids to Model F keyboards with a possible discount for shipping in bulk. These should fit in the classic case F62 and F77 keyboards. Looks like here is one listing: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/DC-6V-0-3A-11W-Actuator-Linear-Push-Solenoid-Electromagnet-w-Base/32267295277.html

The new Model F xwhatsit controllers have the expansion header pins to allow for this. https://imgur.com/GyG1wi4

I’d be interested in a solenoid as well.

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