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Offline ryahirv

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1200 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 07:17:16 »
Right...but without arrow keys (and the other keys above) that I could get on the f77 which is *much* wider than the RealForce until the smaller f77 case comes along

NOOOOOO, don't mince up the F77 keyboard, it's perfect as is.  What the hell is wrong with you, wanting to cut and trim a CLASSIC design down to another plain keyboard  :o .

The current shape is an authentic Model-F keyboard that is perfect as is, it's like trying to cut down a Shelby Cobra to look like a Mini, absolute travesty on every scale of human understanding  >:( .

Leave it well enough alone because you youngster's will kill yourself when you get older and realize what you have done to something that is sacred and worshiped around the globe as is.  Don't mess with perfection otherwise you shall curse the day you even tried to disfigure such a great piece of DESIGN.

Easy tiger!
I assume you're being at least a touch sarcastic? (I hope)

There's nothing "wrong" with me and the sides of the case have no bearing on how wonderful the keys are to use.

There's definitely market space for both. Lots of people in here have inquired about smaller case options.

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« Reply #1201 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 08:48:35 »
Easy tiger!
I assume you're being at least a touch sarcastic? (I hope)

There's nothing "wrong" with me and the sides of the case have no bearing on how wonderful the keys are to use.

There's definitely market space for both. Lots of people in here have inquired about smaller case options.


That's just Elrick, he gets himself all hyped up and gets all jazzed about his toys. I just roll my eyes and keep scrolling.

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« Reply #1202 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 13:02:21 »
Are there any plans to reviwe the f50 in a later run?
It would accompany the f62 really nice. I did think about a setup like an organ with two levels of keyboards. :eek:
Or does anybody know where I could find a f50?

I am afraid, that the Pay Pal affair could end up bad. And the ppl who pay will have to wait ages for  their money to get returned by paypal.

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« Reply #1203 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:01:28 »
I just roll my eyes and keep scrolling.

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« Reply #1204 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 17:14:07 »
Are there any plans to reviwe the f50 in a later run?
It would accompany the f62 really nice. I did think about a setup like an organ with two levels of keyboards. :eek:
Or does anybody know where I could find a f50?

I am afraid, that the Pay Pal affair could end up bad. And the ppl who pay will have to wait ages for  their money to get returned by paypal.

I don't think there would be enough interest for an F50, ellipse actually found a bunch and sold them off a while ago. I have the M version and I used to use it with my SSK. It is a pretty handy set up.

I think the paypal thing is just a verification issue and once they realise it will be all good as ellipse is not doing anything wrong (as far as we know) so it is just their anti-money laundering obligations being fulfilled.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1205 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:06:39 »
Againer and fanpeople I am confident PayPal will take care of this issue.  I have provided a written explanation and have escalated the issue to their Executive Escalations team. 

In the mean time I am still receiving orders - recently we passed the $40,000 mark with orders!  Who could have expected it would reach that much after the first week or so ?!?!

I recommend asking GH user orihalcon as he may have some M49/M50 units.  Some of them have partial Model F internals as they are F/M hybrids (they have barrels and the steel inside plate but use a membrane, or something like that).

And yes I had access to about 10 or 20 F50s that I could have bought - I offered them for as little as $100 but only a few people bought them.  I ended up passing on the rest of the available units and they ended up selling them back to China or Japan, probably to be melted for scrap metal :(

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1206 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:20:17 »
I think the paypal thing is just a verification issue and once they realise it will be all good as ellipse is not doing anything wrong (as far as we know) so it is just their anti-money laundering obligations being fulfilled.

Yep, don't forget in the beginning BunnyLake got side stepped with Paypal but it took a long time to get everything sorted and his original Group Buy continued unmolested.

All Paypal is doing is their standard reference checking via addresses/identities which every first timer goes through when running a large Group Buy through them.  Figured the morons would have sorted the procedures out by now to reduce waiting times but it looks like nothing has changed with them.

So this group Buy can still continue because they (Paypal) still deem this to be legitimate with no worries.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1207 on: Fri, 05 February 2016, 20:26:47 »
The only time we should worry is if PayPal blocked payments. Obviously they're still going through, but due to the large orders in such a short amount of time they automatically hold it for a while. Sucks, but it'll get released eventually.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1208 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 03:11:29 »
Are there any plans to reviwe the f50 in a later run?
It would accompany the f62 really nice. I did think about a setup like an organ with two levels of keyboards. :eek:
Or does anybody know where I could find a f50?

I am afraid, that the Pay Pal affair could end up bad. And the ppl who pay will have to wait ages for  their money to get returned by paypal.

I don't think there would be enough interest for an F50, ellipse actually found a bunch and sold them off a while ago. I have the M version and I used to use it with my SSK. It is a pretty handy set up.

I think the paypal thing is just a verification issue and once they realise it will be all good as ellipse is not doing anything wrong (as far as we know) so it is just their anti-money laundering obligations being fulfilled.

You know..I was gaming on my AT tonight and I only have the middle part of the keyboard actually programmed to sorta emulate a f62 to see if I can work with it and the game  wanted me to use page up and down and junk to spin  a block around..
and I thought about those funky f50 keyboards.. I bet that **** would be handy lol and the amount of macros you could setup on that thing ..I want one now rofl how much are those?

Then I could have it on my left side and not need to move my hand off my mouse..That would be an amazing set up for me

And on the subject of gaming I know it isn't meant for it but I'm having no issues what so ever in games like league and Tomb raider etc

I'm pretty hyped for this keyboard lol thanks for the chance to own one Ellipse

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1209 on: Sat, 06 February 2016, 18:54:06 »
That's right romevi - payments are not being blocked and orders are still coming in OK. 

Quite a few people are placing their order to get their early spot in line but are then changing their mind on the specific customizations they would like to have, which is perfectly fine!  Just PM me if you have any changes to your order that you'd like to make.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1210 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:18:09 »
Ellipse have you submitted this story to Verge and other big blogs?
Please consider carefully before you decide to comment, for Jesus.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1211 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 16:55:42 »
Hi intelli78 - not yet but a couple big tech news sites reached out to me for a brief interview.  I still have to get to that and try to get a hold of someone high up at PayPal.  I submitted a reply on their web site as well as over email but no one has updated the status of anything.

Any recommendations on what to say when submitting a story?  I have not done this before and don't know what's the best way to go about it.

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« Reply #1212 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 17:07:14 »
For the tech blogs, I would emphasize the following: uniqueness of this project; the (relatively brief) history of capacitive buckling spring compared to the cost-cutting membrane BS that most people are familiar with via the Model M; and the quality and value proposition--that despite the cost, these will be 50% or more less expensive in inflation adjusted dollars than the originals were. I'd also really drive home the point that these feel completely different and are a much nicer typing feel than a Model M, despite the relative similarity of the technologies. In my mind that can't be stressed enough, because people will naturally assume that Buckling Spring is Buckling Spring, so why should I get one of these over a vintage Model M or new Unicomp? I used to feel the same at one time, before taking a chance on refurbishing the F122 that's now my daily driver. I can never go back to membrane now.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1213 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:15:27 »
PayPal approves my case!

Good news - I just called PayPal again today and they said they approved my case and will release the funds shortly.

So it is looking like the PayPal issue has been resolved and will not pose any potential problems for this project going forward!

thanks Techno

Here's the current approximate order breakdown:
64   United States
7   United Kingdom
6   Australia
3   Japan
3   Sweden
2   Canada
2   Netherlands
2   Korea, Republic of
1   Poland
1   Spain
1   Germany
1   New Zealand
1   Viet Nam
1   France
1   Austria
1   Hong Kong
1   South Africa
1   Indonesia
1   Ireland
« Last Edit: Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:26:54 by Ellipse »

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1214 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:16:31 »
Great news!

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« Reply #1215 on: Tue, 09 February 2016, 19:51:35 »
PayPal approves my case!

This is good to hear, will submit an order soon!

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« Reply #1216 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 13:10:13 »
I won't be able to join with the early birds but you'll definitely see my order in the regular order time. Also, congrats on sorting out PayPal!

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« Reply #1217 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 14:35:07 »
Yay!
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« Reply #1218 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 17:00:51 »
Here's the current approximate order breakdown:
64   United States
7   United Kingdom
6   Australia
3   Japan
3   Sweden
2   Canada
2   Netherlands
2   Korea, Republic of
1   Poland
1   Spain
1   Germany
1   New Zealand
1   Viet Nam
1   France
1   Austria
1   Hong Kong
1   South Africa
1   Indonesia
1   Ireland

Why aren't there any more "Strayans" ordering these babies?

We have to beat the bloody POMS no matter what, you can't let them show us up here in front of the WORLD  >:D !

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« Reply #1219 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 21:28:43 »
Isnt the population of UK around 60 mil whereas straya is 25 mil. So if we score per capita than straya is beating the mother state.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1220 on: Wed, 10 February 2016, 23:33:32 »
@Elrik the exchange rate is horrendous. It's nearly double-priced
TOO MANY KEYBOARDS THAT I COULD NOT COUNT! BUT I AM STILL USING MY MODEL F77

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« Reply #1221 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 00:33:12 »
PayPal approves my case!

Good news - I just called PayPal again today and they said they approved my case and will release the funds shortly.

So it is looking like the PayPal issue has been resolved and will not pose any potential problems for this project going forward!

thanks Techno

Here's the current approximate order breakdown:
64   United States
7   United Kingdom
6   Australia
3   Japan
3   Sweden
2   Canada
2   Netherlands
2   Korea, Republic of
1   Poland
1   Spain
1   Germany
1   New Zealand
1   Viet Nam
1   France
1   Austria
1   Hong Kong
1   South Africa
1   Indonesia
1   Ireland


I'm really hoping my order is one of the 7 from the United Kingdom.

...
1   Isle of Man

Hey, I'm only messing - it's good to see so many orders already. :)
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« Reply #1222 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:39:11 »
@Elrik the exchange rate is horrendous. It's nearly double-priced

Yes, it's positively disgusting how our currency has taken a sewer dive just so we can sell our third world agricultural products around the globe.  Hence we the 'normal' people have to pay more for ALL our manufactured goods.

Just hate the thought of letting those uppity poms show us off as decrepit losers, especially now  :'( .

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« Reply #1223 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:42:38 »
There's gonna be only one of these in my country :D
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« Reply #1224 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 05:53:22 »
There's gonna be only one of these in my country :D
Nah not until second round! Haha. I've bought so much other board and I forgot about this one and ellipse save the day on the second round decision!

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« Reply #1225 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:04:38 »
There's gonna be only one of these in my country :D

Haha me too :) I am representing South Africa.

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« Reply #1226 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:19:40 »
There's gonna be only one of these in my country :D

Haha me too :) I am representing South Africa.

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« Reply #1227 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 06:45:21 »
There's gonna be only one of these in my country :D

Haha me too :) I am representing South Africa.

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« Reply #1228 on: Thu, 11 February 2016, 18:46:52 »
Just added another country to the list today:  Finland!

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« Reply #1229 on: Fri, 12 February 2016, 22:35:44 »
We have crossed $47,000 in orders (including shipping) after the first ~2 weeks!

So I am curious - who is waiting until the final round to place an order?  I'll make a note of it so I won't send you a reminder email the last week of the early bird round.
« Last Edit: Fri, 12 February 2016, 22:46:59 by Ellipse »

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« Reply #1230 on: Sat, 13 February 2016, 00:00:07 »
I'm waiting for round two. Gathering funds and awaiting independent reviews of the round one boards!

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« Reply #1231 on: Sat, 13 February 2016, 22:08:17 »
Who else has a Realforce 87u in here?

I'm wondering which way I'll be leaning after the honeymoon period wears off with the new F77!

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« Reply #1232 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 05:25:40 »
I'm waiting for round 2  ;D

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« Reply #1233 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 05:40:27 »
Who else has a Realforce 87u in here?

I'm wondering which way I'll be leaning after the honeymoon period wears off with the new F77!

If you're serious about getting an RF, go for the 55g model because only real enthusiasts go for that model rather than any other.  Always go for the MAX in g's when it comes to typing bliss  :thumb: .

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« Reply #1234 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 06:32:08 »
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« Reply #1235 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 11:13:51 »
Who else has a Realforce 87u in here?

I'm wondering which way I'll be leaning after the honeymoon period wears off with the new F77!

If you're serious about getting an RF, go for the 55g model because only real enthusiasts go for that model rather than any other.  Always go for the MAX in g's when it comes to typing bliss  :thumb: .


Sorry guys - I should have been much more clear.

I actually am typing this right now on a Realforce 87U all 55g and LOVE this board.  I'm mainly curious which I'll love more after the F77 shows up!  :-)

I had a really nice Model M SSK and they were sort of neck and neck...with nods each way in certain areas.  I continue to be worried about the overall width, so I'll definitely be one of those jumping on the slightly smaller case option for the F77 when available.

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« Reply #1236 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:19:24 »



I had a really nice Model M SSK and they were sort of neck and neck...with nods each way in certain areas.  I continue to be worried about the overall width, so I'll definitely be one of those jumping on the slightly smaller case option for the F77 when available.

IMO, Model F capacitive buckling spring is a much nicer typing feel than Model M membrane bs. So if Topre and Model M are neck in neck for you, I predict you'll end up liking this one the best.

I haven't measured, but isn't the standard case F77 pretty close to the SSK in overall width?

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« Reply #1239 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:31:45 »

I haven't measured, but isn't the standard case F77 pretty close to the SSK in overall width?

I think it's close, but the problem is that I'm used to the Realforce which is around 1.5" narrower than the SSK, so I'll be looking to shave anything off I can.


(I know..some are bent on the "original look" of the Model F - I could care less about that, as usability on my desk and the key action is my main focus - In fact, I sort of wish there were a version of this project that was taking the original key action and trying to do a modern approach & case/design to everything else about it - The "Best of both worlds" approach.)

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« Reply #1240 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:43:07 »
ryahirv - I am working on a modern case design for the F62/F77 that will look like some of the other high end custom keyboard projects.  About 20 people are interested in them so far.  My goal is to get them to the same cost as the traditional case.

Please do let me know of any "simple design" keyboards you'd recommend me look at while doing the designs. 

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« Reply #1241 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:48:52 »
ryahirv - I am working on a modern case design for the F62/F77 that will look like some of the other high end custom keyboard projects. 

Will our existing F77's be able to work in the "modern case"?

Is this the same thing you meant when talking about the "narrower case options" coming down the line and that we could convert our existing F77's to with a little effort?


In terms of look. I personally like the look of the Code keyboard (no backlighting obviously).  I love the KB's that have black cases (especially if it's a cool matte or interesting finish of some kind) with white keys.  Love to see some of the ones you've been considering for inspiration!

To me, getting the edges/frame/bezel to the minimums is my main thing.  I actually think the Industrial Gray with the smallest possible edges would be plenty cool, especially if as matte as possible (shiny= no thanks...for me anyways).
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« Reply #1242 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 16:58:03 »
ryahirv - yes all of the parts are completely interchangeable between original case and ultra-small case, except of course for the bottom inner assembly plate which needs to be made a little smaller.

Yes this is the same as the narrower case options that will soon be available and can be converted with some effort.

I will make the case as small as possible while still allowing for screws to secure the different pieces of the case together (or are there other recommended ways to assemble the case?).

If anyone can point me to detailed photos of disassembled higher-end custom keyboards that they like, I'd appreciate it.

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1243 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:07:45 »
Yes this is the same as the narrower case options that will soon be available and can be converted with some effort.

I will make the case as small as possible while still allowing for screws to secure the different pieces of the case together

Sweet!
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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1244 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:14:53 »
Great ryahirv.  While I usually want to make prototypes for everything before offering it I am thinking that may not be possible to get it in time by the end of February for the early round.  Therefore I may open up orderings based on a rendering of the proposed design after I confirm the design and costs with the factory's engineers.  I will keep everyone posted.

I am thinking of a very simple ultra-compact rectangular-type case with a bezel, middle section, and bottom metal plate, assembled together by screws that are only visible from the underside of the keyboard.  It will probably be made of anodized/brushed aluminum or aluminum with a covering done by electrophoresis, and hopefully with a number of color options including black, silver, and gray.  If anyone has specific finishing recommendations for the aluminum case please let me know.

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« Reply #1245 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 17:16:00 »
cross posted thread - I decided to start a separate thread as the other NYC meetup thread seemed to focus on a later meetup.  I'd be happy to bring the F62 and F77 for people to try at the later meetup as well, just in case this month is busy for you.

As I mentioned before, I'd like to set up a public meeting for anyone who wants to try out the Brand New Kishsaver F62/Industrial F77 keyboards in person in Manhattan.  I also invited two professional tech news writers to stop by and maybe even do a quick first look review (they are interviewing me on the subject of this project).

Who would like to attend?  Which days and times would accommodate most people do you think?

I was thinking Thursdays in the early evening, so how about Thursday 2/25 at 7 PM?  I think Mondays, Fridays, and weekends are too busy for most people.

Can anyone volunteer a venue to host the meetup?  Otherwise we can just meet in one of those indoor Privately Owned Public Spaces in the city.

I'd also invite attendees to bring their own keyboards for comparison if interested.


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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1246 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 18:21:17 »
Great ryahirv.  While I usually want to make prototypes for everything before offering it I am thinking that may not be possible to get it in time by the end of February for the early round.  Therefore I may open up orderings based on a rendering of the proposed design after I confirm the design and costs with the factory's engineers.  I will keep everyone posted.

I am thinking of a very simple ultra-compact rectangular-type case with a bezel, middle section, and bottom metal plate, assembled together by screws that are only visible from the underside of the keyboard.  It will probably be made of anodized/brushed aluminum or aluminum with a covering done by electrophoresis, and hopefully with a number of color options including black, silver, and gray.  If anyone has specific finishing recommendations for the aluminum case please let me know.

Going to wait for some finalization on this before ordering my F77, glad I caught it.
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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1247 on: Sun, 14 February 2016, 18:47:33 »
Who would like to attend?  Which days and times would accommodate most people do you think?

Would love to be there in NYC but I'm stuck out here in the Desert surrounded with stinky, sweaty men all day and night.  For once would like to get the stench out of my nostrils from where I work and breathe in some fresh City Air.

When the original F77 gets sent out to me here, shall place an order for a future F77 with a smaller casing design, once it eventuates  :thumb: .

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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1248 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 00:53:40 »
I would like to attend. brb, crowdfunding for the travel costs.
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Re: [IC] F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
« Reply #1249 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 11:53:42 »
For case design, I've always been a fan of lip and screws.