Nice! Any updates to the the design, case, or pcb?
Is ISO an option?
Is ISO an option?
ISO compatibility is available on the PCB. However, last round only 1 person who purchased the board planned to use ISO so I sent them the plate file. If you choose ISO, you will have to get your own plate produced because I don't anticipate enough demand to get ISO plates made.
Is ISO an option?
ISO compatibility is available on the PCB. However, last round only 1 person who purchased the board planned to use ISO so I sent them the plate file. If you choose ISO, you will have to get your own plate produced because I don't anticipate enough demand to get ISO plates made.
So, there is not a single chance to have an ISO plate option?
What would be the MOQ for an ISO plate to be produced?
Is ISO an option?
ISO compatibility is available on the PCB. However, last round only 1 person who purchased the board planned to use ISO so I sent them the plate file. If you choose ISO, you will have to get your own plate produced because I don't anticipate enough demand to get ISO plates made.
So, there is not a single chance to have an ISO plate option?
What would be the MOQ for an ISO plate to be produced?
Is ISO an option?
ISO compatibility is available on the PCB. However, last round only 1 person who purchased the board planned to use ISO so I sent them the plate file. If you choose ISO, you will have to get your own plate produced because I don't anticipate enough demand to get ISO plates made.
So, there is not a single chance to have an ISO plate option?
What would be the MOQ for an ISO plate to be produced?
In the R1, we had some people complaining that originally there was no ISO support and we tried to argue it really is detrimental to the PCB integrity by adding so much holes and pads. It also sophisticates the building process.
Having a PCB full of holes, however, is not that big of a deal inasmuch as it does not change sound signature of the keyboard nor makes it more expensive. Hence we gave in and added ISO support on the PCB.
Plates however are a whole different story. Trifling with plate cuts is essentially removing material from the plate and that can significantly alter the sound profile of the keyboard for the worst. In some cases, the extra space around switces makes them wobblier, directly affecting keyboard feel and effectiveness as a high-end product. Plates are not meant to be multi-layout support (ask out there how many people like those universal plates) and, as you can see from the KLE, we kept them to a minimum. I had people ask me to add full-grid numpad support, mirrored numpad and whatnot.
In face of this, we decided to offer two plate options, an ANSI and an ISO, so that whichever layout you use the sound and feel are pristine. Then again, offering another plate means another laser cutting drawing that the fab has to do, more logistics, more possible defects.
Truth of the matter is ISO users are a minority in the hobby --- and that's fine, I'm not one to layout-shame anyone --- but from a feasibility standpoint that makes things so much harder. Just see the amount of ISO kits that are not being made in keysets, and how many keysets are removing ISO from base kits because it significantly makes kits more expensive. Bunnies said that he could offer ISO plates if 10 or more people wanted, and only one guy manifested interest, so plate files were sent.
I think that having that same approach for R2 would be nice --- if we get 10+ ISO users we can offer ISO plates down the road. It's up to Bunnies though.
i've had a quick chat with driftingbunnies in the discord and he said that he would most likely send me or anyone who wants to build an ISO layout the plate files.
the plate should be easily done by laserboost which i personally don't have any experience with, but it looks pretty good.
Is ISO an option?
ISO compatibility is available on the PCB. However, last round only 1 person who purchased the board planned to use ISO so I sent them the plate file. If you choose ISO, you will have to get your own plate produced because I don't anticipate enough demand to get ISO plates made.
So, there is not a single chance to have an ISO plate option?
What would be the MOQ for an ISO plate to be produced?
In the R1, we had some people complaining that originally there was no ISO support and we tried to argue it really is detrimental to the PCB integrity by adding so much holes and pads. It also sophisticates the building process.
Having a PCB full of holes, however, is not that big of a deal inasmuch as it does not change sound signature of the keyboard nor makes it more expensive. Hence we gave in and added ISO support on the PCB.
Plates however are a whole different story. Trifling with plate cuts is essentially removing material from the plate and that can significantly alter the sound profile of the keyboard for the worst. In some cases, the extra space around switces makes them wobblier, directly affecting keyboard feel and effectiveness as a high-end product. Plates are not meant to be multi-layout support (ask out there how many people like those universal plates) and, as you can see from the KLE, we kept them to a minimum. I had people ask me to add full-grid numpad support, mirrored numpad and whatnot.
In face of this, we decided to offer two plate options, an ANSI and an ISO, so that whichever layout you use the sound and feel are pristine. Then again, offering another plate means another laser cutting drawing that the fab has to do, more logistics, more possible defects.
Truth of the matter is ISO users are a minority in the hobby --- and that's fine, I'm not one to layout-shame anyone --- but from a feasibility standpoint that makes things so much harder. Just see the amount of ISO kits that are not being made in keysets, and how many keysets are removing ISO from base kits because it significantly makes kits more expensive. Bunnies said that he could offer ISO plates if 10 or more people wanted, and only one guy manifested interest, so plate files were sent.
I think that having that same approach for R2 would be nice --- if we get 10+ ISO users we can offer ISO plates down the road. It's up to Bunnies though.
I'm aware of the pro and cons of dedicated plates for specific layouts, no need for such a lengthy post.
I just wanted to know what the requirements are in R2 for the chance of an ISO plate.
Thanks for the info. I'm sure if someone really wants ISO they can PM you for some custom order at an appropriate price for a one off.
Is the PCB solder or hotswap?
Second, I think that the multi-layout support question needs a thorough response because the last time around people thought we were ditching ISO simply because it's easier for us and we can safely fill the spots with ANSI users, as if we were here to make a quick buck. We just want to deliver a nice product. I'm not saying that you particularly are accusing us of that, just reiterating we are not making it harder on ISO people because we are sadists, it's a technical design decision.
Second, I think that the multi-layout support question needs a thorough response because the last time around people thought we were ditching ISO simply because it's easier for us and we can safely fill the spots with ANSI users, as if we were here to make a quick buck. We just want to deliver a nice product. I'm not saying that you particularly are accusing us of that, just reiterating we are not making it harder on ISO people because we are sadists, it's a technical design decision.
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Dude, chill. You are interpreting too much into a two sentence forum post.
Second, I think that the multi-layout support question needs a thorough response because the last time around people thought we were ditching ISO simply because it's easier for us and we can safely fill the spots with ANSI users, as if we were here to make a quick buck. We just want to deliver a nice product. I'm not saying that you particularly are accusing us of that, just reiterating we are not making it harder on ISO people because we are sadists, it's a technical design decision.
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Dude, chill. You are interpreting too much into a two sentence forum post.
Yeah I think I did. Sorry about that. I just don't want to have the same kind of reaction we had in the R1 GB post.
i really hope the gb starts asap for this... what a dope board
Yes plssss
This is the R2 though and this IC thread is posted just today.
This is the R2 though and this IC thread is posted just today.
My bad, that’s just on me. I thought it was odd that there was the link to the GB page with the most recent update for shipping being last thursday.
How many slots will this round have?
How many slots will this round have?The number hasn't been determined yet but I'm thinking around the same as last time. I'm planning to order more extras though in order to ensure higher QC for the GB participants so the total number of units will be higher for r2.
Can anyone educate me on the difference in appearance between anodized black and e-black?E-coating is paint applied over the metal. Anodizing is modifying the the chemical structure of the surface to create a color. E-coating creates a smooth and glossy black. Anodization keeps the texture of the aluminum underneath and tends to be flatter. Here's an example image (e-coat on left).(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200215/e13fa75db623f7ab2b79fa5285a6fc28.jpg)
Thanks. Seems like e coat is analogous to a clear coat while anodized appears more like a primer.Can anyone educate me on the difference in appearance between anodized black and e-black?E-coating is paint applied over the metal. Anodizing is modifying the the chemical structure of the surface to create a color. E-coating creates a smooth and glossy black. Anodization keeps the texture of the aluminum underneath and tends to be flatter. Here's an example image (e-coat on left).
Any chance of getting one in e-white?
E-Yellow and/or grey, for Lunar!
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Any chance of a hotswap option?Unfortunately there are no current plans for a hotwswap PCB at this moment
Will it fit mill max? That's good enough for me.Any chance of a hotswap option?Unfortunately there are no current plans for a hotwswap PCB at this moment
FR4 plate or BOM plate for r2 ?
How many slots will this round have?The number hasn't been determined yet but I'm thinking around the same as last time. I'm planning to order more extras though in order to ensure higher QC for the GB participants so the total number of units will be higher for r2.
Out of curiosity, do you think the group buy will run like... in march or april? would u happen to have like a timeline plan for the r2?
How will this group buy work? Is there some page where oneself can preorder one? I never bought keyboard in GB, but this looks amazing.
Will it fit mill max? That's good enough for me.Any chance of a hotswap option?Unfortunately there are no current plans for a hotwswap PCB at this moment
Very interested in this board. Can't wait for it to reach GB stage. My only change request would be for an option for 3 keys to the right of the spacebar instead of 2.
A few questions. Would it be possible to have no logo on the brass weight or maybe substitute Austin with the same triangle from the front?
Second i haven't used a board lower than 7 degrees how much more different is this?
Its a beautiful board for sure, while i can't tell if the acoustics are up with the best of them, i can appreciate a nice full size layout without the space.
Team olive or dark dark army green checking in :D
I doubt it's popular enough though tbh, so I was hoping for a raw option to have Cerakoted at a local place if this ends up not being a choice :thumb:
Recently came into some job responsibilities that require a numpad so this is perfect!
Will it be FCFS or random raffle? Asking because FCFS kinda nonsense at unholy times is a hard no for me :)
austin r2 when
Quick question, what is a CF plate?
Quick question, what is a CF plate?
Carbon Fiber
Quick question, what is a CF plate?
Carbon Fiber
Child free
Are there pics of the dark gray?
Just checking in here... Looks like R2 going to be announced soon?
Quick update - Protos have been paid for. I'm hoping to receive them by the end of April if there are no delays....If everything goes smoothly, we can probably start the GB sometime in May.
Would it be possible to add the option to turn the LEDs under Caps, Scroll and Num into either indicator lights or regular backlights? I think the KBD8X MKII for example has physical switches on the pcb for changing those LEDs between indicator or backlight mode. I know there are indicator lights in that triangle area as well.
I had some other questions about the board as well. For the backlight LEDs, is it just all lights on or all lights off? Can brightness or anything else be controlled? Is there enough room in the case to fit some sound dampening foam under the pcb if i wanted to? Like some sorbothane maybe?
Never cared for full size until this. So in.
Will Polycarb be an option?
Are we allowed to sign up for 2 or is there a limit of 1 per customer?
International Buyers - Anyone outside of the US will be able to purchase through ilumkb (https://www.ilumkb.com). A product page will be available the day before and a google form will be in the description. GB starts at 3PM SGT on May 16th. Hopefully this time should work for those in EU and Asia. There will be 75 units, FCFS. For those who miss out on the US
QuoteInternational Buyers - Anyone outside of the US will be able to purchase through ilumkb (https://www.ilumkb.com). A product page will be available the day before and a google form will be in the description. GB starts at 3PM SGT on May 16th. Hopefully this time should work for those in EU and Asia. There will be 75 units, FCFS. For those who miss out on the US
I'm a little confused by the last sentence. 3PM SGT on May 16th is actually earlier than 10am CT on May 16th (the US/CAN gb date and time). So how are those who miss out on the US gb getting onboard the international gb? Or am I converting times incorrectly?
Also, are international folks permitted to join the US/CAN gb, just as how US/CAN folks can participate in the international gb?
will the bump on only come in white? They really stand out on the red.. a subtle black or color match would be a nice option
Does the PCB support Bluetooth bro?
Thank you a lot. It is sad to hear this :(Does the PCB support Bluetooth bro?
It does not, sorry.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. What all stabs are required for the second layout with three keys on the bottom left? I’m guessing 6x2u and 1x6.25. Thanks